The Syndicate

Epignosis wrote:

Bullzeye wrote:

Long Con wrote:

Epignosis wrote:I figured I would take the first bullet. You nabbed Long Con instead.

Yeah, I died Night 1 because Epig was such a delicious target. Who killed him/me?

Yeah sorry. I was Death and Epi was ridiculously annoying - I literally just wanted him to shut up and be gone. If I'd kept my role and lived then I'd have considered rezzing you once he was out of the picture. I lost my power that same night and then died the following night.

Made you uncomfortable, did I?

No. You were just irritating and needed to shut up. I thought at the very least you'd realise who I actually was and change your tune. Not that that would've stopped me killing you a second time, but it might have stopped your ridiculous 'tells' bs.

Long Con wrote:

Epignosis wrote:I figured I would take the first bullet. You nabbed Long Con instead.

Yeah, I died Night 1 because Epig was such a delicious target. Who killed him/me?

Yeah sorry. I was Death and Epi was ridiculously annoying - I literally just wanted him to shut up and be gone. If I'd kept my role and lived then I'd have considered rezzing you once he was out of the picture. I lost my power that same night and then died the following night.

unfurl wrote: if thats what happends, that cupid has a weird-funny sense of humour

Or an evil one. Either way, just like in real life!

fingersplints wrote:Epi, who do you think bullz has btsc with?

Somebody who disagrees with him, most likely.

Also I think Unfurl makes a perfectly good point and is probably correct about the potential of the letter P. So that's where I'll be placing my vote as well.

Epignosis wrote:Dear Mr. Death,

Since you may be in want of a target for Night 2, old sport, I have a proposition for you.

If you kill Bullzeye Night 2, I will vote for Made Day 3.

If you kill S~V~S Night 2, I will vote for Nisani Day 3.

Sincerely,

Epignosis

PS~

Oh you want SVS dead now too? Is she my BTSC partner? God, I wish. That'd be cool. Shame I'm all on my own and have been all game. Death, if you kill Epi first then I'll consider us even if you want to kill me next.

Well that's disappointing.

For the record Epi, I don't care about your role. I have no idea what it is just as you have no idea what mine is. I wanted you lynched for coming after me the way you did.

boo wrote: He won't have it for long though. That's a pretty obvious Switcheroo target.

And death to Delta Squadron, . That's what happens when you don't follow your dear leader I suppose.

I'll vote Epi bullz, but if Epi is still offering a favour for voting you in this lynch, I'd want something from you to vote him instead. SVS took me up on the res deal, so my offer would be: If you can convince her to vote for Epi, and you're willing to take that deal with me, then I'll vote Epi with you.

That sounds like a fair offer. I'll accept the res deal (on the condition you do vote Epi) but I don't know that I'll ever get the chance to go through with it.

S~V~S wrote:boo, I need to see a bit more before Bullz convinces me but on rereading last night, two different times I started to reply "*Epignosis*" and then talked myself out of being rash with such an early vote. Black Rock, like Epis own wife, Eloh, is a very gracious lady (no buttering here, just truth) and I did not love seeing her spoken to in that fashion.

What if I were to say please?

Epignosis wrote:Ooooh look at all this glorious attention. I love when things are all about me.

If I owe you a favor, then you need me alive to cash in that favor. And I will not turn away a favor, especially on the day of my daughter's wedding.

Finally, ask yourselves this: It's LMS. I have no team. I won't win. No chance. Look at all the people ready to vote me out. Do you believe I'm lying about Bullzeye? Some people just don't like me being right. I love me being right. I get more out of being right than I do winning.

We know you do. You are lying about me, or just plain making shit up, because it's nowhere near the truth. So unfortunately, not only are you wrong but hopefully you are going to die for it as well. I'm not coming after you because you're "right", I'm coming after you because you randomly came out and tried to have me killed. Did you really think I wouldn't retaliate to that? If anything, I'm after you even more purely because you are wrong and yet acting like you're right and have won some moral victory regardless.

Epignosis wrote: Mean? How about honest? Doesn't anyone like honest?

I don't care how someone "feels." Did I represent what I said as a fact? My posts are there. Do they indicate that what I was said was a fact, or do they indicate that what I said was a strongly held opinion?

If the latter, then your feelings are wrong.

You, honest? You've definitely represented your posts as fact. It's not "I've seen this and it makes me think this" it's "I know this because I have access to knowledge about people that you don't and it proves that what I say is true".

Enrique wrote:Err.

You have 48 hours to vote.

Sorry, I forgot we just did a poll on this

I did wonder what kind of democracy we were living in here :P

S~V~S wrote:Hrm. Two deaths in the same group. Sucks to be Delta Squadron. Maybe one of the two of you will make a comeback

And Bullz, it would carry more force were you to vote for him yourself. But I am very willing to consider it; if he trumps up a mystery case on one person & gets away with it, he might do it again.

I thought I had done. Sometimes my vast intellect means I forget to do simple things like vote properly.

rabbit8 wrote:

Bullzeye wrote:I think we should all vote for Epi. I've totally picked up on all his tells and can confirm he's the ultra-secret super-mega-baddie responsible not only for both LC and Dana's deaths, but also world hunger, global warming, and dubstep. We should totally lynch him. I won't say what those tells I picked up on are though because I don't want people to know I'm making shit up it's a secret

Are you laughing because you never expected to find the most bulletproof case in all of mafia history in an LMS game?

I think we should all vote for Epi. I've totally picked up on all his tells and can confirm he's the ultra-secret super-mega-baddie responsible not only for both LC and Dana's deaths, but also world hunger, global warming, and dubstep. We should totally lynch him. I won't say what those tells I picked up on are though because I don't want people to know I'm making shit up it's a secret

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Bullzeye wrote:So, anyone up for lynching Epi tomorrow? I have no vested interest except the fact I'd just like to see him taken out.

Reasoning is partly insane

Never claimed it wasn't. If someone wants to randomly decide to start coming after me and put effort into getting me killed, you can be sure I'll do the same to them. I don't see why I shouldn't. I want Epi dead and will ask people to kill him just as he's trying to do with me. He came at me for nothing, so I'm responding in kind. It shouldn't be a surprise to anyone.

I don't care if you and Made are teammates any more. I just think we should kill you. If it helps, I can make up some nonsense about you having BTSC.

Epignosis wrote:

Bullzeye wrote:So, anyone up for lynching Epi tomorrow? I have no vested interest except the fact I'd just like to see him taken out.

Only because I came after you.

Also I like 24/24 but it'd be nice if polls could end before 4am.

So, anyone up for lynching Epi tomorrow? I have no vested interest except the fact I'd just like to see him taken out.

Long Con wrote:

Bullzeye wrote:

Epignosis wrote:I am offering a favor to anyone who votes now for Bullzeye.

I am offering a better favour to anyone who doesn't.

I didn't vote for Bullzeye. I would like to call in the favour. Are you available this weekend?

I'm working on call for Residence Support at my uni until 8am on Saturday, and still need to renew my passport, so getting to Canada in time might be a bit of an issue but we can work something out I'm sure.

Linki LC - I already accepted Splints' offer and am too loyal to break away now.

Epignosis wrote:I am offering a favor to anyone who votes now for Bullzeye.

I am offering a better favour to anyone who doesn't.

Epignosis wrote:

Bullzeye wrote:

Epignosis wrote: I'm so right about you.

You wish.

I hope you genuinely believe I have BTSC and aren't just throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks. You're so wrong that I'm going to use this as an example in future games of why people shouldn't listen to Epi.

Do you know how many times I've heard that?

Do you know how many times I've been listened to?

Probably too many.

Epignosis wrote: I'm so right about you.

You wish.

I hope you genuinely believe I have BTSC and aren't just throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks. You're so wrong that I'm going to use this as an example in future games of why people shouldn't listen to Epi.

Epignosis wrote: What?

You've picked up on my tells?

What are those tells?

Can you cite evidence?

Now I'm a dangerous killer?



Come on folks.

This is textbook shit.

Bullzeye has BTSC, and now he's nervous.

As SVS even pointed out, I'm now just making fun of you. The fact you took it seriously makes it even more funny to me.

nutella wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Ask yourselves this:

Why would I gun for someone on Day 1 if all I'm supposed to do is survive?

That's a good question. Why do you even care who gets lynched? It's LMS. Do you have something to gain from Bullz getting lynched?

He does now, because if I survive I'm probably going to keep trying to get him lynched until one of us is dead.

S~V~S wrote:Now see, I thought he was laughing at you for the same reason.

100% correct

Linki - Well Nisani, I still don't understand you, but if you want to encourage people to protect me then you're all right in my book.

Epignosis wrote:

Bullzeye wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Dana wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Dana wrote:

S~V~S wrote:Can we lynch you Day Two anyway?

I think I could maybe get behind this.

Why do you want to lynch me?

Am I making you uncomfortable?

Yes, quite. I like to understand things. When people back up their claims it makes for less confusion all around, and the way this game is set up is already confusing enough. I don't necessarily want to lynch you right now but I do want to know exactly why you think Bullz has BTSC, and if you can't explain that then I can't believe you.

It's Last Man Standing.

Dana needs Bullzeye dead to win.

Instead, she's pushing me to prove that Bullzeye has BTSC.

Think about that right there.

Why shouldn't you prove it? If you want to go around making claims like that, you'd best support your arguments.

Nah.

Well then in that case I'm going to say you've clearly got a very powerful role people definitely want out of the way. I picked up on your tells. Everyone who hasn't voted yet should definitely get this dangerous killer out of our midst before it's too late.

Epignosis wrote:

Dana wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Dana wrote:

S~V~S wrote:Can we lynch you Day Two anyway?

I think I could maybe get behind this.

Why do you want to lynch me?

Am I making you uncomfortable?

Yes, quite. I like to understand things. When people back up their claims it makes for less confusion all around, and the way this game is set up is already confusing enough. I don't necessarily want to lynch you right now but I do want to know exactly why you think Bullz has BTSC, and if you can't explain that then I can't believe you.

It's Last Man Standing.

Dana needs Bullzeye dead to win.

Instead, she's pushing me to prove that Bullzeye has BTSC.

Think about that right there.

Why shouldn't you prove it? If you want to go around making claims like that, you'd best support your arguments.

Epignosis wrote: No.

I don't share things I've learned. And I damn sure don't do it in LMS.

Translation: I'm totally making this up.

Epignosis wrote:

Bullzeye wrote:

Epignosis wrote:
Great question.

I did not want to open my invitation to everyone, and the Made suspecting people fit the range of people I wanted to open up to.

Don't tell me what I'd "have just said." I don't operate like that. And I certainly don't operate like that in LMS.

Can you tell me why I would want Made saved? I said why I would theoretically want Made saved in an earlier post, but you want to paint me as a Made savior instead of a Bullzeye lyncher. That's not what this is about at all. I want you dead. Right now. If people want to lynch Made on Day 2, very well.

You have BTSC.

I'm assuming it is in fact you who have BTSC. I would even narrow that statement down to say Made is a teammate of yours. Hence why you specifically asked people to vote me instead of him. Let's face it, I'll probably die tonight anyway since you've painted a target on me by claiming to know I have BTSC, but you're just plain wrong. You act so sure, but you haven't got a clue.

Linki - I wasn't referring to Bioshock at all. More our respective success rates in games in general.

I know I'm right about you by your responses to me.

Let's up the ante.

If Bullzeye is lynched Day 1, and does not have BTSC, then please lynch me Day 2.

Yawn.

I cannot think of how else to express to you that you are simply wrong. You may think you are correct, for whatever reason you won't completely disclose (you say you've picked up on tells but don't mention what they are) but I'm fairly sure you just pulled my name out of thin air. Since I'll probably be gone by day 2 now, I don't care what they do with you. It'd probably be wise to lynch you regardless. I do think you have BTSC with Made and I think there's actual solid reasons to believe that.

Linki - 2 years to take in? The hell does that even mean? Share your working out properly if you want to get top marks here Epi.

Epignosis wrote:
Great question.

I did not want to open my invitation to everyone, and the Made suspecting people fit the range of people I wanted to open up to.

Don't tell me what I'd "have just said." I don't operate like that. And I certainly don't operate like that in LMS.

Can you tell me why I would want Made saved? I said why I would theoretically want Made saved in an earlier post, but you want to paint me as a Made savior instead of a Bullzeye lyncher. That's not what this is about at all. I want you dead. Right now. If people want to lynch Made on Day 2, very well.

You have BTSC.

I'm assuming it is in fact you who have BTSC. I would even narrow that statement down to say Made is a teammate of yours. Hence why you specifically asked people to vote me instead of him. Let's face it, I'll probably die tonight anyway since you've painted a target on me by claiming to know I have BTSC, but you're just plain wrong. You act so sure, but you haven't got a clue.

Linki - I wasn't referring to Bioshock at all. More our respective success rates in games in general.

Epignosis wrote: Ah ah ah. I don't give a shit about Made.

Notice how I picked you out of everybody? Notice how you didn't have any votes or attention at the time? I'm not trying to save Made. I'm trying to lynch you.

So why say you'd owe people favours for not voting Made? You explicitly addressed anyone who said they might vote for him. If you really thought I had btsc, you'd have just said that on its own without bringing Made into the equation at all. You want Made saving. I want to know why. To find out why, I propose lynching him. Honestly though, I'd have no problem with you being lynched. To reply more properly to Dana's comment, my vote was sort of a knee-jerk reaction to Epi. My point stands though. He blatantly wants Made saved.

Here's the deal: Some people think I'm shifty and devious and it's a risk to trust me (admirable qualities, I'm told) but I'm still a damn good ally and am big into playing fair. Keep me around and I will pay my debts. Epi is more likely to screw people over than I am. Successfully, anyway.

Epignosis wrote: Yeah, I can.

I keep tabs on people, particularly when I am bad with them. I observe their tells. Then I use these in future games.

I do this with everyone I'm bad with. I love being bad. I learn shit.

You, sir, have BTSC.

You've seen my 'tells' in all of like 8 posts or whatever? You, sir, have no clue what you're talking about. Prepare to lock away the drinks for a quarter of an hour.

Dana wrote:

Bullzeye wrote:Funnily enough Epi, if keeping Made around meant that much to you, you could've just asked me not to vote him. I like Made too, I'm literally only voting for him because you told people to vote for me instead. If he gets lynched he can blame it on you.

Why not vote Epi himself, then? Why take it out on Made?

I'll vote Epi eventually. More people were likely to vote Made, and I'm assuming there's another reason Epi was so keen to keep him alive. I want to know what that is.

Funnily enough Epi, if keeping Made around meant that much to you, you could've just asked me not to vote him. I like Made too, I'm literally only voting for him because you told people to vote for me instead. If he gets lynched he can blame it on you.

Epignosis wrote:

Bullzeye wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Dana wrote:

Epignosis wrote:I am voting for Bullzeye now.

Why are you voting Bullz, just to not vote Made? Why are you bribing people with favors to join you in voting for him?

Because I like Made, and he gets voted out early for bullshit reasons. Also, Affirmative Action!

And I am NOT voting Bullzeye just to note vote Made. That, madam, is a misrepresentation. I'm voting Bullzeye and I'm encouraging others to do so because I want him out of the game.

And why is that?

I can tell you have BTSC.

You can? I don't. Sorry to break it to you but your psychic powers need work.

Epignosis wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Dana wrote:

Epignosis wrote:I am voting for Bullzeye now.

Why are you voting Bullz, just to not vote Made? Why are you bribing people with favors to join you in voting for him?

Because I like Made, and he gets voted out early for bullshit reasons. Also, Affirmative Action!

And I am NOT voting Bullzeye just to note vote Made. That, madam, is a misrepresentation. I'm voting Bullzeye and I'm encouraging others to do so because I want him out of the game.

And why is that?

Maybe I should owe a favour to anyone who votes Made instead of me?

Epignosis wrote:I do not operate on a bullshit system of alliance in settings like this one. I operate like a true Don: By favors.

I am extending this invitation to anyone thus far who has expressed an interest in voting Made.

If you vote for Bullzeye instead of Made, I will owe you a favor.

Do we have a deal?

I am voting for Bullzeye now.

Harsh. I'm gonna vote Made now just to spite you.

Long Con wrote:

S~V~S wrote:

Roxy wrote:

fingersplints wrote:

Roxy wrote:I am making a group called the Omega Whores - who must say that Enrique is indeed suave to join

Linky lmao @Epi

I can't believe you are making a whores group without me

never without you! You are automatically a whore, no need to say it - like SVS and Kate it is in our nature

It was a joke but if people want to join my Omega Whore group you can but you will have to prove yourself an actual whore first

Will you take honorary Boy Whores? I have prior commitments to two gentlemen, but once a whore, always a whore

Maybe you can join every group, and be completely safe.

I tried this in Sherlock and it ended very badly indeed. Technically I tried to lead every group (along with DH), but still... not my finest hour!

boo wrote:

unfurl wrote:I do wonder who is gotta vote first :P I know there still a lot time
But I do wonder who will be the first one to throw the fist stone/vote
will it be froam an alliance, ganging up? or will it be a chicken sort of votting game? something else?

maybe Im the only one who wonders

Well, with Time Bomb, voting early for someone who will hopefully take more votes is a better idea then waiting to vote late.

So I will answer your question by voting Nisani for being clearly insane, while forming a new alliance called, 'You a damn fool', that only lets in fools and has the lone goal of killing fools.

Sounds kinda self-defeating, and as a proud fool I am not sure how I feel about the whole idea.

fingersplints wrote:I don't trust it

Linki - bullz join mine. We are in the same timezone so it's convenient

I'm definitely up for that. I'm all about convenience.

G-Man wrote: Thank you for bringing this back to our collective attention. I'm still trying to process Nisani's post. Can it be trusted? What do people think?

Nisani's post reads to me as though they know (or think they know) something most of the rest of us don't, and hadn't considered the implications of that before making their post.

I will have an alliance with anybody who wants one. I'm always quiet at first but I'll still help people to be awesome.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

G-Man wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

G-Man wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:I'm going to vote the first person who uses 175 characters in a single post (not including spaces).

175 characters exactly? Or 175 characters or more? If they quote someone else, do the quoted characters count?

Quotes do not count. I have come to the conclusion that baddies tend to make posts that are 175 characters long more than other players.

I realize it is a different game, so I think it’s a good time to test this idea.

But now you have no control group that is unaware that they are being monitored. Your methodology is now flawed.

You are correct. Since every player is equally civilian and bad, I decided to monitor the behavioral change instead. We’ll see who becomes the first player to slip up. I’d put my money on rabbit (or smash coins).

Is this similar to INH's database from the first Champions game?

unfurl wrote:

G-Man wrote: And unfurl is playing the "oops! I haven't played in so long that I accidentally double-posted" card.

It was a mistake
you are clearly paranoid G-man

I feel like he's either kidding or crazy. There's no way you can think someone making a dumb joke in their second post on day 0 is trying to derail a thread. Besides, is it even right to say you have 'suspicions' in a Last Man Standing game? Technically everyone is a baddie, or not, depending on your own perspective.

Hmm... What do I want? I kinda want a pizza actually, but that doesn't seem to be on offer. I don't really play to win but watching others fail is always fun. I guess I want to have fun regardless, so that shall be how I vote.

Hooray new game! I'm basically just checking in, need to go do a bunch of stuff then I'll be back!