OK it's 3am and I weirdly can't sleep so here's some late-night stream-of-consciousness speculatioficationings.
Not Lorab's Teammates
nutella
Epignosis
Dyslexicon
MacDougall
Sloonei
Neutral
FZ.
DrWilgy
novaselinenever
Kylemii
Maybe Lorab's Teammates
speedchuck
Long Con
Marmot
Spacedaisy
Totally Lorab's Teammate
JaggedJimmyJay
....idk, I'm not very good at this kind of thing, I might be making some weird assumptions, so don't read too much into all of these but this is where I'm at. Probably Mac will do some more in-depth interaction analysis. But at this point I want to lynch Jay next. Or maybe Spacedaisy as I'm seeing more reasons she could be bad (more on this later in this post)
Perhaps LC is in fact bad and the tie was win-win, but that would open up some juicy cans of bussing speculation and is heavily tied into whether Jay is bad and all sorts of wifomy things. I guess what I'm wondering is where lorab's teammates would have voted in each scenario
Scenario A: LC is civ. The mafia would have tried to at least get the tie, but if they could have saved Lorab why wouldn't they? (Well, obviously because they'd look bad when LC flipped because even though that wouldn't confirm lorab was bad it would look like a save) But would they leave it up to the rabbi? I don't know what to read into Kyle's and Spacedaisy's deliberate votes outside the tie at EOD. If one team member, perhaps Jay, had voted for LC, would the other one vote elsewhere, maybe in hopes that Lorab herself would come back and vote for LC out of more excusable self-preservation? Whereas, if Jay were town, LC would have been an easy wagon for lorab's teamies to latch onto. Of course there is also the possibility one or both (though both seems highly unlikely) of lorab's teammates could also have been inactive or absent for EOD and missed their chance to save her.
Scenario B: LC is bad. Maybe the mafia actually went for the tie because they didn't want to choose which teammate to sacrifice. Lorab's vote stayed on Epi, outside of the tie. LC voted for Lorab. In this scenario that leaves one more team member; in the sub-scenario that Jay is this team member, they're evenly split on the tie, but Jay deliberately pushed the LC wagon so that would have to have come from a mastermind-level wifom scheming motivation. Lorab-LC-Jay as the team seems pretty unlikely. So if not Jay, would the third teammate be someone who voted for LC, or again someone like Kyle or Spacedaisy who voted outside the tie, or again there's also a significant possibility that it was one of the handful of players who were not present close to EOD and did not affect the results at all.
Ugh Jay is so tied up in everything. So much hinges on his alignment and motivations and all of it is wifom. Maybe I'm reading too much into it due to bias though....
This is pretty tinfoily tbh but let me put it out there. So, what I gathered was that Dizzy was affected with a curse (by a role on the mafia team) that possibly entailed a forced vote for Jay. Jay himself was the first to vocalize the idea that that was what was happening, and Dizzy appeared to confirm it via quote. If I am to hold onto my tinfoil hat and believe Jay is on the mafia team, I must believe that Jay would enact that curse, wait for it to become relevant, and then be the one to "figure it out" in thread. There is decent FEB-level mafia motivation for that, of course; if it becomes public knowledge that the baddie team cursed someone to vote for Jay, the reasonable assumption is that Jay isn't on that baddie team, because vote numbers are precious things for mafia and it's risky to give him a vote if he had a decent chance of getting some votes (which I believe that he would believe he would, going into that day)... but if he was confident enough that he would at least not be the highest vote-getter (which I believe that he would believe he would going into that day), it's a wifom gambit worth making and I can see it coming from a player of his caliber.
I must sound crazy, lol. Probably the simplest explanation is that Jay is town. But I have a hunch about him that I can't shake.
Anyway, this all relates back to Spacedaisy. Actually the Dizzy thing relates to Spacedaisy independently of Jay's alignment, I guess. So maybe I'd rather lynch Spacedaisy first since my reasoning is a bit more straightforward and less tinfoily. This post:
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:44 am
I am super confused about whatever is going on with Dizzy right now... uh... sim is running behind and I'm trying to do both at once, it's not going well for my brain. Let me try and look back over this stuff.
sounds
exactly like what someone would say who knew that Dizzy had been cursed and while catching up saw that it had become a main topic of discussion and felt the need to comment on it. Yeah, regardless of Jay's position in this, this post really makes me think Spacedaisy is on the team that cursed Dizzy and is therefore bad. It isn't much, could have been her genuine reaction of not knowing what was going on, but it sounds fake to me.