The Syndicate

Really? Of all the choices you guys ended up on LC??!?! Lol

But I would have gone Luna. Maaayyybe eloh but wow, dunya really had me fooled. Well played.

not mushy no. It's lovely and tart like a strawberry. Really I'm more just surprised youve never tried one bc they're so common lol

[mention]juliets[/mention] I can't get on discord rn but your mention emailed me and lmao wtf?!?!? You refuse to try kiwi because it's green? What kind of reason is that surely you eat plenty of green foods hahahahaha seriously they are so delicious I can't believe you have missed out on one of the best fruits in existence

this is bonkers

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 10:21 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 8:27 pm

Who was it that recorded funniest quotes again? @nutella?

Huh? You just send it in a PM to Sockys2019.

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 9:34 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 9:32 pm
Isn't that timmer's job
I don't get the joke it's late here...

lol, niche joke. in some other game he mentioned that his job involved grinding up bits of human flesh or something and everyone freaked out

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 8:32 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 8:29 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 8:20 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 8:15 pm Like, even nova's refusal to lynch Mac, while questionable, it's fairly believable for a civ. He came in, saw a suspicious wagon and got paranoid. I do that all the time myself.
questionable? it was fucking awful and exactly what i expect a possible save to look like. he's already defended himself against this and cant really say more to appease me, but i can't shake the nagging feeling away. how carelessly he handled it, like it was nothing after mac was a big suspect felt like teammate tmi (hi, teammate, i gtg later but i'm gonna make sure my distancing doesnt get you lynched before i disappear). i think i just stated my biggest beef with nova.

also, that post "does juliets know the answer to these?" and coming in after creating such a fucking outcry over that to say "lol sorry juliets" was kinda bad looking--mafia apologizing to juliets for creating real frustration kinda bad.

you should be scared. i am taking the wool out of people's eyes.

Isn't that timmer's job

that's malpractice babeyy

R E Z
P L E A S E

ain't never gonna do it without the rez on

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 5:08 pm Rez plz

actually though plz rez me

I'm curious what you think Luna's civ self should look like and what you saw that made you change your mind on her. [mention]Elohcin[/mention]

Mata is a lady and I think her weird stuff (which she did actually elaborate on later) was a very civ look.

I just have an irrational hatred of it, not any actual strategic argument against it lol.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2019 4:07 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2019 4:05 pm I am now convinced that everyone is fucking with me and the objective is to drive me nuts.
I think it's more that I'm doing this and everyone's inner pedant has to agree because I'm right.

I, for one, think I'd feel a lot better about this whole mess if you took every townread on your list and summarized the strongest reason you have to eliminate townread them. Because right now it feels like that reason is "They've been making a lot of posts in this game and haven't pinged me" based on the POE list.

Oh no, not operation trustfall too.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2019 4:05 pm I am now convinced that everyone is fucking with me and the objective is to drive me nuts.

That's the objective of every game

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2019 4:01 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2019 3:58 pm Sure Jay you're still considering the other players. Then, pray tell what the hell was the point of the poe list in the first place??
That's how I construct my theory of the game. Any POE list can... wait for it... change. I am always the guy talking about the numbers ratios and the numbers of mislynches available strictly because I view that information as critical to the production of a winning civilian core. People I place in a "POE list" wrongly have a clear motivation to get their asses out of it pronto, and they often do. People I leave out wrongly can get complacent to their own detriment and end up in it. Everything has a purpose. I am a calculated motherfucker.

.....yeah, pointless.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2019 3:58 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2019 3:54 pm I believe speed's point is exactly that it's harmful to have that mindset. By making a poe you are putting the other players on the back burner in your mind.
Not anymore than saying "X is town" has the same influence. I recognize that people outside the pool I provided should still be investigated. It's the same reason I ignored your suggestion to skip a few people when I did the interactive analyses.

Sure sure, but the interactive analyses have a point. What is the point of making a poe list if you're not actually using it to do anything? It's faux effort.

Sure Jay you're still considering the other players. Then, pray tell what the hell was the point of the poe list in the first place??

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2019 3:46 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2019 3:43 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2019 3:38 pm Speedchuck is technically right about suspect lists and poe.
Yeah. I respect what speed is doing here. I also felt weird about Jay making a poe already when it's this early and he just pasted half of a rainbow. I don't think it's a productive move at this stage. That being said, speed could be trying to make this into a big thing against Jay to deflect and make himself look bold. So I'm kinda torn.
I think my POE is pretty good and he's in it. What else can he do but freak the hell out?

This notion that it's "too early for POE" is the dumbest thing I have seen this night phase. It's never too early to approach the game with that mindset. I start working that out on Page 1.

I believe speed's point is exactly that it's harmful to have that mindset. By making a poe you are putting the other players on the back burner in your mind.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2019 3:38 pm Speedchuck is technically right about suspect lists and poe.

Yeah. I respect what speed is doing here. I also felt weird about Jay making a poe already when it's this early and he just pasted half of a rainbow. I don't think it's a productive move at this stage. That being said, speed could be trying to make this into a big thing against Jay to deflect and make himself look bold. So I'm kinda torn.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2019 1:56 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2019 1:52 pm It wasn't plausibly an actual save attempt though since it was quite last minute afaik, unless she didn't check the vote margins beforehand and thought it was still close enough to lynch me.
I'm trying to piece together the tally at that moment. It's tough. I dunno if it was an 8-4 lead for Mac at that point or something else.

For me though, the biggest problem is that her rationale just looks utterly fake.

"nutella has the most votes besides Mac" -- who cares
"last minute votes are a mafia thing" -- bullshit
"as you've said" -- thank you other person for giving me this excuse

I think it was 8-4 by then. At least 7-4. I guess some of your points still stand though, it was a gross post even if not an actual save attempt.

It wasn't plausibly an actual save attempt though since it was quite last minute afaik, unless she didn't check the vote margins beforehand and thought it was still close enough to lynch me.

*pulls out megaphone* dunya has a spicy take! I repeat, dunya has a spicy take!

And it looks like Jay has brought a large jug of wine to counter the spice.

I appreciate the findings on speed and niju. I think Luna is still my top suspect but those other two are....heading to flavortown.

I think eloh is a technically possible teammate but not a hugely likely one. I don't think she blows up at that right at EOD with the linki saying "oh he was bad but still" like that if she was his teammate, but maybe she would idk.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 6:41 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 6:35 pm 14 at the most. You can skip me and dunya and juliets.
You can skip me too

No sorry dude you're down to a neutral.

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 6:39 pm If there's a busser, I'm not it. I thought I got on the Mac suspicion before it really took off... I guess that would be the ideal way to bus, but I don't think I would dare to take out a Mac-teammate that hard, especially when he's not even around to give me the go-ahead.

Although Mac DID mention me as a loose "I'd lynch Long Con out of these four non-posters" which actually looks pretty bad for me. But seriously, I am Civ.

Okay.

Also like half of them have <10 posts lol.

14 at the most. You can skip me and dunya and juliets.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 5:52 pm Holy shit I didn't expect that. Well done.

Daisy I take back including you on the busser list, jack is right you look really town now after a moment's thought and your last few posts.

I have a rainbow cooking up in my head but I think I will wait til dawn to post it.

Dunya also townlock.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 5:38 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 5:15 pm another reason you can't do this crap, JJJ, is b/c of time zones. it is very disrespectful to those across the pond. Mac may be bad, and if so....good for those voters, praise be. But if not, that poor man had no way to defend himself b/c the thread decided to change things up on him while he was asleep. this is why we have 24 hours to discuss, so that everyone can be involved WHEN THEY ARE AWAKE. Voting someone while they are asleep and not giving them time to rebuttle is horrible.

linki...okay, he was mafia. my point still stands.
Elo, I am the only one who voted Mac against my gut because of Jay. Many of these votes moved as a natural result of Juliets claim. There was not some big CFD that occurred out of nowhere. This was just normal game play. I’ve been feeling pretty uncertain all day long with my reads flipping all over the place. You can’t honestly expect that people won’t sometimes change their minds or do unexpected things close to EOD sometimes.

Right, this. There were a lot of factors and discussion that culminated in the best option for the civilians, so I see no problem.

Also it didn't all happen in the last hour. This d1 has had a fairly average progression from my point of view. Like it sucks for Mac that he wasn't around but that's just how the game goes.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 5:17 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 5:16 pm JJJ, GREAT job casing!!
Team effort. Props to the voters.

Now find the busser.

Luna. LC, daisy, mata also candidates.

Alriiiight nice.

Jay is right eloh. The Mac lynch didn't spring up suddenly at the end. It's been in the works for at least a few hours.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:44 pm I've seen fake character claims. I don't remember any fake role claims. If it happened in Fire Emblem I have no memory.

Dude that was like FE's whole deal. We drafted roles and those were our claims but we had more secret stuff on the mafia. Wtf dude I thought you had the most detailed game memory

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:41 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:40 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:37 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:36 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:32 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:30 pm Hey my color is back.

Linki: Why do we believe Juliets’s claim?
Because her personality exists.
What does that have to do with her claim?

If you (meaning anyone) just townread Juliets, okay. But all the “this is a good claim” is setting off my warning bells. It’s a claim I’ve never seen and a claim that never needs to be proven because mafia don’t shoot a night stump or whatever. It doesn’t make me suspect her more but why would it make anyone suspect her less?
I think certain people are less likely than others to make up claims period, and I also think this would make a silly fake.
i'm not saying i doubt juliets but that is silly. 1. epi could have given fake claims. 2. someone on her team could have suggested fake claims (i do this early every game when i'm mafia and the host didn't provide us with fake claims). 3. why is it silly? it basically helps ensure she wouldn't be nk'd cos pointless and not lynched cos she a stub.
I have never seen a mafia team given fake role claims in my life.

That doesn't mean you're wrong. I haven't seen it though. You could be right, but I am not in the business of finding every possible universe where I might be wrong about X. I make judgments.

Have you really never seen it? I've played at least two or three games as mafia with safeclaims provided. I'd believe you weren't in any of those games but I'm still surprised. Don't think it's the case in this closed setup though.

[mention]Jackofhearts2005[/mention] [mention]Spacedaisy[/mention] [mention]Matahari[/mention] [mention]juliets[/mention] [mention]novaselinenever[/mention] pls vote for mac

[mention]Long Con[/mention] please

[mention]Matahari[/mention] hey no, uncool. You are behind the times as always.

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:18 pm Ok, caught up from where I entered/last posted. IT's going to take my mind a couple of days to get involved, I think. I feel rusty right now. I have a couple of folks that I think are Civ, so I won't vote for them.

I do like JJJ's thoughts on Mac, and I'm going to vote for him. I also like the Mac-juliets connection with the "fake-sounding" light-green Skittle post.

[VOTE: Mac] aubergine

Please actually vote

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:18 pm Ok I'm tired of all this. I am basically a stump. If I get killed in the night by the mafia I can't vote anymore but I can continue to post. If I'm lynched I'm dead.

Ugh ok.

[VOTE: mac] aubergine

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:13 pm Either way I don't even think nutella should be a wagon at present. Don't ask me why, or expect a vague answer.

juliets is forcing me to play defense for her, and I hate that. She can be a wagon alongside a preferred low-poster.

Nobody with their vote on me besides juliets is around to move their vote so would you be so kind as to vote for juliets for now to help me out

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:07 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 3:47 pm Actually you're the one who isnt trying to understand lol but whatever.
That’s complete bullshit.

You literally said in that post that you were giving up on trying. Anyway I find this a waste of time, what are your thoughts on Luna or Mac?

Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:05 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 3:30 pm
nijuukyugou wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 11:44 am Hello friends. Four pages since yesterday evening, eh? Geez.

Donald it is!

nijuukyugou wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 11:45 am Errr, or I would vote Donald, but I seem to be having the same trouble as others on page 1 - I can't vote! Alas.

nijuukyugou wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 6:11 pm Shit, I forgot I was playing! It's been too long.

I won't catch up now because I need to leave for trivia in like 10-20 minutes.

Who's suspicious, eh?
niju's posts are at the opposite end of the stiffness spectrum. Three exclamation marks. They're almost gratuitously loose.
Lynching a low-poster means ignoring all the good discussion we've had in the thread so far and going back to the day 0 game of analyzing how stiff or natural each person's check-in post felt. I don't really like that, and think we can do better.

And yet I have yet to see you comment on almost any of this content to which you refer.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 3:46 pm I understand. Either I’m right or you misread my post.

If you’re scum, Juliets is scum. If you’re town, you really suspect Juliets too and maybe she’s scum.

Right so either way we lynch juliets

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