The Syndicate

But yeah Dom totally could have had this if he'd killed sabie or if infodumping hadn't been allowed. Would have been satisfying.

Yeah oops sorry mac that deadies started posting but like epi said I think everyone's cool with this being over

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 27, 2019 10:42 pm Lol @nutella gotcha.

Lmao I thought I was so obvious but for some reason people didn't believe you it was wild.

I really think my scum game has deteriorated as my town game has gotten stronger. I feel like I used to be able to have a pretty similar meta but in this and in our hydra game I just felt like a bumbling idiot lol

Well I guess imma [VOTE: dom] aubergine for the hell of it though I think he has looked pretty town, ugh. If anyone still wants to go for G-man or LC I think those would be more likely to hit scum than Dom bit I will go for whatever is most likely to self pres at this point because I know I'm town. I can see why I look bad here and that I should be resolved but I hope after my flip you will look at the people I've suggested.

Deflections everywhere

I have to admit though I had the same thought about that Dom post. Odd neutral-arbiter vibes.

Hmmm

LC and LLD probably not w/w?

LC seems compatible with G-man though. Timing of the Dom vote is weird after my G-man vote.

How does no one see what I see in G? His "analysis" is such a waste of space imo. He's not going anywhere with it. And as I keep pointing out, his Michelle vote was not good

Ok I see where you're coming from. I guess it is sort of opposite to the point against LLD for coming in and playing right after the scum flip.
However I am not inspired by his d2 michelle-related content/amount of prior support for his vote.

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Nov 22, 2019 1:33 am I don't think I'm down with a G-Man lynch at this point.

What's holding you back?

I get the sense he's being given a pass for ....some reason. His content is really not that convincing to me.

Quin is sketchy too yes. Not just because of the gimmick but that may be part of it/he may be hiding behind it/not posting as much content because of it. A point in his favor over you however is that he has not been afraid to state more against-the-grain reads.

G-Man's d1-2 iso is an Impossible Burger. It's made to look like it contains meat but it sure doesn't.

G-Man's d3 iso is a nothingburger.

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Nov 22, 2019 1:16 am
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 22, 2019 1:07 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Nov 22, 2019 12:20 am I'm suspicious of her. I didn't like some of her stuff earlier, which I recall posting about, and this recent stuff was sketchy as well, although she is known for "wishy-washiness", so the "could be"s are on track with that. I don't like how she's coming after me.
this is one whole mess of a post
Yeah, but, you're calling me out on this, and is it really a baddie indicator? How does it make me less Civ in your eyes? I don't really see it, oh, my post has unsure ideas and opinions, let's comment on the nature of the post itself. This reaction makes me more suspicious of you.

Idk. I currently suspect G more than you after skimming his iso again. I can see your weird tone coming from a town angle, you just keep pinging me at face value but who knows man, you are often zany.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Nov 22, 2019 1:12 am nutella, you're putting on a token effort. I appreciate that. You're not a civilian in this one though, and you have to be lynched.

Nah.

Do me a favor and skim G-Man's posts, especially the latter third or so, and tell me why he can't be Michelle's teammate.

I feel like G-man's iso looks like it contains a lot of effort but not a lot of actual gameplay. Mostly the isos he did -- I feel like he spent a lot of time on those and they didn't really go anywhere, while he wasn't really interacting much with people in more back-and-forth conversation. That's not necessarily scummy, could just be his meta (again I literally do not remember his meta whatsoever lol) or the way he feels like committing time/more analysis-like effort to this game. His push on me d2 was weird and based in his mathy analysis, he voted Michelle last minute when tagging on didn't change the result, and he's actually gone pretty quiet since Michelle's flip.

I think he's a plausible baddie. Someone tell me what I'm missing here.

[VOTE: g-man] aubergine

G-Man wrote: ↑Fri Nov 22, 2019 12:49 am Nursing a sick four-year-old kept me from being more active today. I did the same kind of re-read and vote tracking for Day 2 that I did for Day 1. I'm still looking at the vote timing (for what it's worth). A few things that still stump me:

-My vote-tracking still suggests to me that Quin and nutella are incompatible as teammates. Has anyone dug anything up in the thread that suggests they could be teammate compatible?

-Epi's behavior is hard to read, but I think the way he went after Michelle Day 2 makes it hard for me to view the two as teammates. One of Epi's recurring mottos is "Don't get cute," and I think that the circumstances of his play would violate that if he were Michelle's teammate. Being Robin to Sloonei's Batman? Yeah, someone could fake that as a baddie. Busing a teammate hard for cred? Yeah, a someone could fake that as a baddie. But the combination of the two requires an awful lot of cuteness that Epi tends to avoid. Does anyone disagree?

-I feel like I'm softening on sabie. My notes suggested nutella could be connected to Michelle or sabie, but I hadn't gone so far as to connect trios together. Perhaps it the improbability that the three active female players in the game (up to now) are teammates. Am I being duped? I see some of you saying how she can be slippery and downplay her skills at this game.

this is three whole mess of a post

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Nov 22, 2019 12:20 am I'm suspicious of her. I didn't like some of her stuff earlier, which I recall posting about, and this recent stuff was sketchy as well, although she is known for "wishy-washiness", so the "could be"s are on track with that. I don't like how she's coming after me.

this is one whole mess of a post

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2019 11:49 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2019 11:46 pm LC could be scum

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2019 11:46 pm LLD could be scum

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2019 11:46 pm Quin could be scum
Good talk.

Do you have a "maybe" to throw in there to make the salad complete?

Yeah, G-Man.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2019 11:44 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2019 11:42 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2019 11:41 pm [VOTE: nutella] aubergine

I don't believe you believe what you're saying.
I don't know what I believe. LC could be scum, LLD could be scum, I don't feel like there are very many leads to go on here
I find it very strange that you voted LC (who is talking, participating, etc.) for not mentioning Michelle but didn't apply the same thinking to LLD (who is doing very little) and also didn't mention Michelle.

What's your take on Quin?

Well I wasn't really thinking about LLD until she popped in today, but her exchange with Dom was questionable enough that I'd be fine voting for her.

Quin could be scum and I particularly think he is compatible with LC.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2019 11:41 pm [VOTE: nutella] aubergine

I don't believe you believe what you're saying.

I don't know what I believe. LC could be scum, LLD could be scum, I don't feel like there are very many leads to go on here

Talk about toxic. Lmao. LLD don't worry you're an angel

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2019 11:38 pm I was once caught by a dubious LP member named Aldo for avoidance. I had not mentioned or interacted with a single member of my beleaguered baddie team and he nailed it, I was lynched, and everyone pointed and laughed.

However, I'm not Michelle's teammate.

Man, screw that guy.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2019 11:36 pm So why vote for LC instead of LLD?

Spoiler: show
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2019 1:16 am I mean like, ok, here's all the posts where LLD and Michelle interacted:

I mean, sure.

because scum partners tend to avoid acknowledging each other? that's a long supported Thing

he doesn't look good in association with Michelle, like his iso has pretty much no mentions of her until after she flipped

and he's generally been weird in a way that has felt unusual to me, stuff like this:

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Nov 20, 2019 1:36 am I like how that "Hey, don't vote me! We're voting Jack." makes me look, in light of the night 1 Jack kill. Looks townish fo sho.

Okay. I misunderstood that you had other reasons for suspecting him. I still don't think "betting" your lives against each other is usually a productive tactic but you do you.

I just don't get why you feel so strongly now that your initial premise has been thoroughly debunked.

Like, again, I don't mean to imply you are incompetent or have no reasoning behind your play, but I hope you at least recognize why your style is so frustrating to me. If you have a strong gut feeling someone is bad that's fine and it can work, but being so aggressive about it with no explanation is incredibly frustrating.

I am not actually sure how I feel about either your or Dom's alignment but I'd prefer a more reasoned approach than "lynch me then lynch yourself bitch."

Instead of admitting she was wrong about the vote order she just flips out and insists on self sacrificing on betting on Dom's alignment

I'm having war flashbacks

Idk why I agreed to play another game with this toxic person

Ugh this is absurd

I promised I would reread g-man, might wait till evening though

Quin wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2019 10:13 am
Dom wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:34 am My bottom three are:

LC
Nutella

And then quiz and LLD rotate. LLD is newly there because suddenly being active after a baddie is lynched is sus af.

I’m willing to swallow my pride and let G-Man’s indiscretions against me go.
fuck me dead dom's a bloody crook

can you elaborate?

damn it's quiet

Psyyyyduuuuuck!

deeengoes ate my sloonei

[VOTE: long con] aubergine

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2019 1:30 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2019 1:21 am Mmm, a four-way tie. That's Long Con's motive.
"Motive". Yup. That's what I've got here. Watch out for the big motive, everyone! One side plz.

Perplexing.

Exceptionally mesmerizing.

Utterly captivating.

Titillating.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2019 1:17 am Yeah, I'm convinced.

[VOTE: LadyLAMBcHOPUmbrella] aubergine

Slam dunk. Thanks Ep.

lolwut

RIP Sloonei. Thanks for doing the overnight analysis, we'll make sure the effort wasn't in vain even though I don't agree with all of it.

And fwiw I do think it's still possible that sabie is bad. I remember having some reason for thinking she and Michelle could be compatible despite being competing wagons. Though I think I suspect Quin slighyy more at this juncture and would strongly bet that only one or the other is bad.

First of all it's silly to say "hey look at this townish thing I did wow so town such wow!!" Second of all I don't even get how the post you're referring to even makes you look great or what it has to do with jack dying n1.

Am I just dumb? Care to elaborate?

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Nov 20, 2019 1:36 am I like how that "Hey, don't vote me! We're voting Jack." makes me look, in light of the night 1 Jack kill. Looks townish fo sho.

why does this post exist

I fully recognize that I look bad from Michelle interactions but I assure you I'm town. I never felt strongly about her either way, but leaned town and gave her the benefit of the doubt, and I was wrong.

I also disagree with your assessment of G-man, sloonei. He only voted for Michelle at the last minute, moving the count to 4-3 to 5-3 if I remember correctly. That could easily be a bus imo. I'm going to reread him but I had a weird feeling about his cases on d2 not sounding genuine.

I think LC also looks pretty bad in general.

Oh hey, cool!

I thought I could read her.

Glad you guys were right after all.

Quin is bad: Long Con

Quin is good: sabie

sabie is bad: Michelle, Sloonei or Dom

sabie is good: Quin or Michelle

Michelle is bad: sabie

Michelle is good: Dom or Epi

(Skipping the me part

)

[mention]sabie12[/mention] do you suspect epi and/or sloonei?

LC is being weird in a different way than is usual for him imo. I'm baffled.

Well I already suspected you, and I suspect quin, so it would fit. Prove me wrong?

So... Quin/LC w/w anyone?

[VOTE: quin] aubergine what the heck let's see

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