The Syndicate

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu May 14, 2020 6:50 pm I put Option 3 ("I see the appeal, but it's not for me."), but I'm not hardline on that. I could be convinced to play a Racket game with the right host and/or playerlist, and it might be a better kind of game for me under certain work conditions. I'm going to have to figure out a new approach to playing though.

Thanks for hosting though, Jay, this was a great experience even if frustrating at times. I suppose that's a function of town games in general too though.

Basically same. I think I'd do better with a somewhat more generous post cap, but aside from the direct restriction on my freedom to spam the thread (lol) my other issue with post cap games is that when people are forced to make fewer posts they tend to make longer posts, and I find reading a series of walls much more draining than scrolling through a large quantity of short and to-the-point posts (and that correlates with the back-and-forth feel of real-time interaction as well).

[mention]Russtifinko[/mention] [mention]dunya[/mention] [mention]Sloonei[/mention] [mention]Turnip Head[/mention] dead/spec chat https://discord.gg/tHyYZU

Hell yes MU crossover hype

TH's towncase for Russ based on how well he was deliberating and trying to solve from a pure mindset was right on the money, except for the part where it wasn't. I'm seriously amazed at how well Russ pulled that off and looked so genuine every step of the way. I certainly couldn't have done it.

Yeah that ending was incredibly fascinating to watch. So drawn out yet so tense, all of you considering each other so carefully, so much distrust and paranoia among the last few townies... Just wild.

[mention]Russtifinko[/mention]

that was the mafia performance of a lifetime. Speed and I didn't deserve for you to go so hard. But you pulled it through. Incredible. That's a Socky vote locked in.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 9:06 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 8:55 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 4:00 pm G-man is bad, I say.

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G-Man wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 2:57 pm Patching together a reads list yields this:

GOOD VIBES
-Russ: His good on the fake-claim cover roles makes me feel good. A baddie would have clarified with the host.
-Dunya: I like her spunk. She's more assertive and direct than I would suspect a baddie to be.
-Epi: He makes good counter-punches, but how many times have I been duped into civ reading him in the past?

TBD (I need to ISO these for a stronger read)
-DDL
-sig
-Sloonei
-Speed
-Tony
-TH

BAD VIBES
-MP: This might be old bias due to his high-volume style of play. It's a soft ping, so don't take it the wrong way.
-Nutella: Equal parts old bias and not feeling much of anything despite the volume of her ISO.
-Mac: He keeps coming back to low-hanging fruit. Lazy for a civvie to do; wise for a baddie. It's never lost its appeal. I am low-hanging fruit, I realize this, so my judgement may be a tad harsh.
-Nanook: Maybe it's a lack of familiarity, but something in his play rubs me the wrong way. Rhyme scheme in moderation and play the game, friendo.
All four of his "BAD" reads come with built-in concessions. I wouldn't quite call it hedging or "wishywashy"; instead G is admitting the flaw in all of his reads ("old bias" x2, "may be a tad harsh", "Maybe it's lack of familiarity"). The effect suggests a player who is tentative because he knows his reads are wrong, as opposed to a player who is keeping an open mind.
Okay, you do have the "knows his reads are wrong" part here. I guess I just glossed over that because I disagreed, I thought his hedges were pretty natural. Looking again I can understand why you saw what you saw. I think I still disagree.
See that's why I don't believe you right now. You waved away my case as "not a case at all" (paraphrasing), and are now admitting to not having read it closely. That has been the impression I've been getting this entire time. "Tell sloonei he's wrong" rather than "Engage with the points sloonei is making." Bogus. Stupendously bogus!

The same thing comes out when he elaborates on his nanook read:
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G-Man wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 4:18 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 3:23 pm
G-Man:

He needs more time to post. He doesn't have much, but I will say this:

-Not a fan of his insistence on rhyming. Yes, it’s cheeky and fun but even I won’t encourage everyone to post solely in rhymes. Not a fan of his repetition of it. (-1)
...is strange coming from a guy who insists on practicing strange and quirky gimmicks all the time (his posts all start with a P, this time, by the way).

It's doubtful to me that someone of G-Man's quirky caliber would characterize posting in rhymes as something bad or inscrutable. We understand song lyrics just fine (well, most. We have Yes and Led Zeppelin...)

I would lynch G-Man today.

Peculiar? Yes. Hypocritical? Perhaps. In this game, there is a limit to how beneficial the rhymes are. You can fit them in here and there between prose as well. Once the benefit is over, sticking with the rhymes just impairs communication. I think it’s his apparent stubbornness to abstain from prose more so than the use of rhyme. My play experience with him is quite limited. If he’s quirky like me, then it might make sense. I lack that context. I’m voting for Nanook now so I have a vote on the board as I start ISOing the people I have little to no read on.
This post also feels as though it has a sort of falsely inflated confidence, like he is overcompensating when pushed on a read that is weak.

This point I don't get at all. I don't see anything that can remotely translate to "inflated confidence" in the highlighted portion. I don't understand how this quote is relevant to your case at all. It looks like you pulled something he said at random and decided it demonstrated "falsely inflated confidence" to... well, inflate your case. Now this part makes me think again that you're talking out of your ass.
The highlighted portion is not where I'm getting the inflated confidence from. That is a confusing bit of marking from me, oops. The highlighted bit coincides with the previous point, framed above the spoiler. The non-highlighted portion is what generated the "inflated confidence" remark. That rhetorical posturing at the beginning, the self-vindication, it all feels kind of rehearsed to me, like he thought it over a few times before hitting submit. Like Mac said:
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 8:49 pm When I rand wolf I am always tailoring my posts, deleting them, walking away from the game etc.
(God I love this new highlight quote feature)

I admitted I had glossed over a detail and am now engaging with it. Okay??

As for the second part... ...I still don't see the inflated confidence. I am reading the whole post you quoted and I don't get it. It's a reasonable defense of his view on nanook. Whatever "posturing" there is, that's just how G-man is. I find it altogether uninteresting.

do you actually think nanook was straight up lying the whole time here, not that he did get a result that was unreliable/not 100% confirmation, as he said? everything he said causes me to believe the latter. which should answer [mention]dunya[/mention]'s question as well, no I don't suspect nanook because he could have been telling the truth and just had wrong info.

I guess sig being vanilla confuses that idea a little, since I'm not sure what kind of ability nanook would have in that scenario. hm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 8:57 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 8:52 pm so nanook had shit all on sig and just bullied him out of the thread while fake claiming to have a red peak on him? and no one's discussing that?
Nanook has made similar plays in the past. In the recent baseball game that I hosted, he faked a red peek on Long Con (who turned out to actually be mafia) when he was actually vanilla. It worked brilliantly there. I never believed his claim today, but I liked it as a play. I became wary of sig because he did not address anything in a meaningful way.

technically he wasn't vanilla, he was a doc, which was the reason he knew he could fake. but whatever

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 4:00 pm G-man is bad, I say.

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G-Man wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 2:57 pm Patching together a reads list yields this:

GOOD VIBES
-Russ: His good on the fake-claim cover roles makes me feel good. A baddie would have clarified with the host.
-Dunya: I like her spunk. She's more assertive and direct than I would suspect a baddie to be.
-Epi: He makes good counter-punches, but how many times have I been duped into civ reading him in the past?

TBD (I need to ISO these for a stronger read)
-DDL
-sig
-Sloonei
-Speed
-Tony
-TH

BAD VIBES
-MP: This might be old bias due to his high-volume style of play. It's a soft ping, so don't take it the wrong way.
-Nutella: Equal parts old bias and not feeling much of anything despite the volume of her ISO.
-Mac: He keeps coming back to low-hanging fruit. Lazy for a civvie to do; wise for a baddie. It's never lost its appeal. I am low-hanging fruit, I realize this, so my judgement may be a tad harsh.
-Nanook: Maybe it's a lack of familiarity, but something in his play rubs me the wrong way. Rhyme scheme in moderation and play the game, friendo.
All four of his "BAD" reads come with built-in concessions. I wouldn't quite call it hedging or "wishywashy"; instead G is admitting the flaw in all of his reads ("old bias" x2, "may be a tad harsh", "Maybe it's lack of familiarity"). The effect suggests a player who is tentative because he knows his reads are wrong, as opposed to a player who is keeping an open mind.

Okay, you do have the "knows his reads are wrong" part here. I guess I just glossed over that because I disagreed, I thought his hedges were pretty natural. Looking again I can understand why you saw what you saw. I think I still disagree.

The same thing comes out when he elaborates on his nanook read:
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G-Man wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 4:18 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 3:23 pm
G-Man:

He needs more time to post. He doesn't have much, but I will say this:

-Not a fan of his insistence on rhyming. Yes, it’s cheeky and fun but even I won’t encourage everyone to post solely in rhymes. Not a fan of his repetition of it. (-1)
...is strange coming from a guy who insists on practicing strange and quirky gimmicks all the time (his posts all start with a P, this time, by the way).

It's doubtful to me that someone of G-Man's quirky caliber would characterize posting in rhymes as something bad or inscrutable. We understand song lyrics just fine (well, most. We have Yes and Led Zeppelin...)

I would lynch G-Man today.

Peculiar? Yes. Hypocritical? Perhaps. In this game, there is a limit to how beneficial the rhymes are. You can fit them in here and there between prose as well. Once the benefit is over, sticking with the rhymes just impairs communication. I think it’s his apparent stubbornness to abstain from prose more so than the use of rhyme. My play experience with him is quite limited. If he’s quirky like me, then it might make sense. I lack that context. I’m voting for Nanook now so I have a vote on the board as I start ISOing the people I have little to no read on.
This post also feels as though it has a sort of falsely inflated confidence, like he is overcompensating when pushed on a read that is weak.

This point I don't get at all. I don't see anything that can remotely translate to "inflated confidence" in the highlighted portion. I don't understand how this quote is relevant to your case at all. It looks like you pulled something he said at random and decided it demonstrated "falsely inflated confidence" to... well, inflate your case. Now this part makes me think again that you're talking out of your ass.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 8:39 pm Of course G-man could be town. Of course people sometimes express uncertainty in their reads, Day 1 or otherwise. And the paranoia about giving the mafia team guidance in their kill selection has been prevalent on the Syndicate for as long as I’ve been here. But the purpose of making a case and playing this game is to consider the alternatives to that.

Town G-man can be humble. He’ll tell us when he’s behind or not sure what to think of things or just struggling with the game in general. His posts here haven’t had that feel. His posts here strike me as being instilled with inflated confidence, as though he doesn’t want to be called out on exactly those other things. The “built-in concessions” I refer to in his first reads list aren’t the typical “hedging” remarks I’d expect. Rather “MP is doing this, which could mean X or Y” it’s “I have an old bias...”, which signals to me that he is aware the read exists on a flimsy premise, not that he is doubting himself.

That is just one point in my G-man case. I’m typing it all out here not out of investment in the case itself, but to frame my newer and bigger suspicion against nutella. I’ve been on the receiving end of her tinfoil suspicions in just about every game we’ve played together for at least the last year. I know what that’s like. I also have a sense of what it looks like when she is actively trying to figure things out— to figure me out. It comes with an air of believing that I am full of shit, but a willingness to listen anyway. Throughout this exchange she has demonstrated an unwillingness to engage: the entire above spiel about G-man is an elaboration on the case that I already presented earlier. It is absolutely not air tight, but it’s also not far out of bounds for what I usually post, particularly on Days 1 or 2. For nutella to suggest that it’s not even a case at all, but something lesser, and to immediately pivot to calling me fake, without demonstrating any of the usual visible inner turmoil over that read, just reads like one conspicuously counterfeit jar of hazelnut spread.

Nah. I am still trying to figure stuff out, like I've said I've gone back and forth on you. It's just that I've decided G-Man is town and nothing you said convinced me to consider otherwise. Funnily enough, your second paragraph here is the first thing that has actually given me pause. I can potentially see where you are coming from there. That angle was not present at all in your earlier case though. This could easily be a retroactive addition to inflate the depth of your "case", or it could be legitimate insight. Show me that this additional level of depth was present in your read earlier, and maybe I'll believe you.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 8:21 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 8:16 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 8:09 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 8:04 pm Wait, is this multi quote feature new?
I’m not here to use it, but I disagree with Sloonei on Nutella.
How I interpret this conversation:

Nutella: hmm, I see no case on GMan
Sloonei: here it is
Nutella: still not seeing it
Sloonei: aha you have already said that you are not seeing it and yet you are still not seeing it?

My general impression is scum would love to seize the opportunity to pick a new town lynch, especially with a narrowing list. And if GMan is scum, the defense probably isn’t as brazen.
Nah, it’s more that she’s not engaging with it. Things have been said about g-man but rather than address those things she’s just said “nope.” It's like like that Monty Python argument sketch.
I think I've been clear that I think all the things you pointed out in your case are things I see as consistent with town G-Man. I don't have a problem with him hedging on his reads. I don't have a problem with him avoiding giving reads during night phase. I don't have a problem with his behavior at EOD1. I've seen him mislynched before for similar reasons and I'm not looking for that to happen again. I could be wrong but I think he has an honest approach and a town mindset. How many ways do I need to rephrase "I don't find your case compelling"
I don’t believe that this is your honest response. I’ve made less compelling cases in the past that you’ve been on board with.

I dunno what to tell you then, except that this ain't the past.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 8:09 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 8:04 pm Wait, is this multi quote feature new?
I’m not here to use it, but I disagree with Sloonei on Nutella.
How I interpret this conversation:

Nutella: hmm, I see no case on GMan
Sloonei: here it is
Nutella: still not seeing it
Sloonei: aha you have already said that you are not seeing it and yet you are still not seeing it?

My general impression is scum would love to seize the opportunity to pick a new town lynch, especially with a narrowing list. And if GMan is scum, the defense probably isn’t as brazen.
Nah, it’s more that she’s not engaging with it. Things have been said about g-man but rather than address those things she’s just said “nope.” It's like like that Monty Python argument sketch.

I think I've been clear that I think all the things you pointed out in your case are things I see as consistent with town G-Man. I don't have a problem with him hedging on his reads. I don't have a problem with him avoiding giving reads during night phase. I don't have a problem with his behavior at EOD1. I've seen him mislynched before for similar reasons and I'm not looking for that to happen again. I could be wrong but I think he has an honest approach and a town mindset. How many ways do I need to rephrase "I don't find your case compelling"

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 7:57 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 7:51 pm I said I didn't see the case on him as in I didn't get the reasons people suspected him, since I hadn't seen anything that struck me as atypical for town Gman. You posted "reasons" which were just a list of some details from his posts. I found it uninteresting and uncompelling.
... what else is a case supposed to be? What would have made it more compelling?

This is not feisty or spicy nutella.

You're Sloonei. You know what a case is. Come on. Why are any of G-Man's posts suspicious? What makes them feel outside his normal town meta? I don't recall anything remotely persuasive about this from your post. I looked at the stuff you quoted and thought "yeah, nah, nothing wrong with that."

Also this is a garbage line of questioning. This is Fake Questioning Sloonei. Like I saw in GOC. I thought I felt it again early this game, then I cooled down on you for a while but the feeling is back in full force. You're full of shit.

I said I didn't see the case on him as in I didn't get the reasons people suspected him, since I hadn't seen anything that struck me as atypical for town Gman. You posted "reasons" which were just a list of some details from his posts. I found it uninteresting and uncompelling.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 7:46 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 7:37 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 6:44 pm I can totally see bad nutella.

She's just... not very around.

Like compare to last game where she was extremely around. Saying things. Posting hot takes. Etc.
Sorry I have been very distracted by other things so I haven't really gotten my head in this game. I don't have super hot takes, I have some townreads and a lot of people who haven't made much of an impression. I kinda think Sloonei is scum for being so focused on his garbage Gman case over everything else, but I've gone back and forth on him.

I think it's likely one of you and TH is bad based on this recent exchange.
nutella: “I don’t agree with the case on G-man.”

Sloonei: [presents a fresh new case against G-man]

nutella: “Sloonei’s G-man case is garbage.”

Well it is.

I need to look back at that awful G mislynch in GOC and see how much scum!Sloonei contributed to it and how that compares to his push here. I'm just getting a lil deja vu and I think G tends to be misread repeatedly for consistent reasons.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 6:51 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 6:34 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 6:10 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 6:08 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 6:07 pm What is everyone's read on G-man?
town
Why?
Like I said, he just feels like regular ol G-Man to me. I don't understand/agree with the case.
You said this before I posted my case.

Your case did nothing for me, you just pointed out some things in his posts that seemed typical from him imo. I don't see the problems you see, I see Gman's way of processing the game.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 6:44 pm I can totally see bad nutella.

She's just... not very around.

Like compare to last game where she was extremely around. Saying things. Posting hot takes. Etc.

Sorry I have been very distracted by other things so I haven't really gotten my head in this game. I don't have super hot takes, I have some townreads and a lot of people who haven't made much of an impression. I kinda think Sloonei is scum for being so focused on his garbage Gman case over everything else, but I've gone back and forth on him.

I think it's likely one of you and TH is bad based on this recent exchange.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 6:10 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 6:08 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 6:07 pm What is everyone's read on G-man?
town
Why?

Like I said, he just feels like regular ol G-Man to me. I don't understand/agree with the case.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 6:07 pm What is everyone's read on G-man?

town

I think regardless of sig's flip we have pretty much wasted this day (aside from Sloonei perhaps). I guess there may be some associative reads we can make from the sig situation but otherwise there has been very little analysis. It feels stagnant.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 5:27 pm Eh guys the day locks in 30 minutes this low activity is officially scaring me now.

Yeah was just thinking this. I've been occupied with both spectating champs and some actual work stuff so I haven't been giving this game much attention but the dead air is making me anxious about sig.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 12:08 pm Note players, in case you hadn't seen already:

We now have a true multi-quote feature installed on the forum, thanks to our newest moderator @boo.

You can take advantage of it in this very game if you so desire. Quick picture directions contained in the spoiler:

Spoiler: show

Clicking the second button there will throw all your selected quotes into a new unfinished post for you to do with as you please. This should work across multiple thread pages and indeed between different threads. If you are on mobile, you may need your screen to be oriented in landscape.

For more information, please see the thread in the Announcements forum.

I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS FOR SEVEN YEARSSSSSSSSSS

My goodness it's quiet here
Is everyone spectating champs?
Or are we just waiting a year
for sig to respond to nook's clamps?

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Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 3:30 pm I don't remember which game it was, but I think there was an instance where town Sig lost a game on purpose to make a point about being against claiming. Or maybe it was someone else (this happens a lot in the other forum I play in). Correct me if I'm wrong.

If this is true it makes me paranoid, though. There is a good chance nanook is telling the truth but his info isn't really conclusive, and Sig is gonna self destruct to make a point anyway.

Notably Nanook also faked a red peek in a recent game (the baseball one), though that person happened to be indeed mafia

But from what he's said here I believe he's not lying this time and he is admitting that his info might not be 100% reliable. But yeah you make a point that goes against Nanook's plan to policy-lynch sig for refusing to claim.

I'm also a bit frustrated at the apparent contradiction in the rules that infodumping is legal except regarding jiggies -- if Nanook has info due to a jiggy pursuit, can he claim it or not?

wow this game is frustrating because everyone is talking past each other lol. DDL's hypothesis of nanook's thing makes a lot of sense to me, I don't get why TH is pushing back on it so much because I think Nanook is telling the truth but it could be something kind of ambiguous. Sig is just being dumb now about the MP thing, multiple people explained that he was town and then replaced and he just ignored that lol. And his refusal to claim in the face of nanook's request makes me think it's more likely nanook's info is good so [VOTE: sig] aubergine for now.

Russti if you just delete the "@" symbol in the post editor the annoying thing goes away. It's a dumb bug but that at least makes it stop.

I don't see the case on G-Man at all. He feels like normal G-Man to me.

lmao sig

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sun May 03, 2020 7:16 pm I'll roleclaim. I'm Leaky and I have a semi-useful role that requires me to have good instincts, so I'm not all that hopeful about that, but I'm town.

any reason you chose to claim??
Nanook's calling out sig by name
Don't know why you'd just randomly out
when not in direct danger, what's that about

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Interesting kill/flip, guess that explains
why Epi's behavior was totally zanes.
He wanted to get a vote or two
and thus he acted a bit cuckoo.

I think I need to re-skim a bit
with the new knowledge that Epi was legit.
I remember he prodded both dunya and me
and then said he wouldn't lynch either, actually.

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Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 03, 2020 3:25 pm I'm probably not gonna bother addressing suspicions. Day 1 was weird and I was more preoccupied with adjusting to the settings than playing the game. I'll catch a bad guy Day 2 and you'll all put me on your shoulders and parade me around banjo town, you'll see.

linki: "Hypocrisy is a staple of the civilian playbook."

lol this is awkward but in a funny way

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 03, 2020 3:12 pm Dunya scum reads me and nutella town reads me. Are we in crazy land?

I gth you town but I wouldn't say I town read you much north of null atm. I've wavered up and down on you quite a bit

alright let's give this a go

Dragon D. Luffy town
dunya town
Epignosis scum
G-Man town
M Plus 7 town
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME scum
Russtifinko town
sig town
Sloonei town
speedchuck scum
TonyStarkPrime scum
Turnip Head scum

........Oh.

Well I feel dumb. Somehow missed that entirely.

Yeah, so if we can only get Jiggies from rhymes during the day, they can only be applied during the night. We can never apply them to day phase, aside from the ways individual roles can get them. So the rhymes can only increase postcount for night phases. I find that incredibly silly. But it's your design I guess

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 6:31 pm Reiterating for clarity:

Give me at least five 4-line rhymes in the style of Gruntilda (example below) in one day phase, and I will grant you a Jiggy. Easy as that. You can either notify me privately once you have five, or you can just number them publicly (if you want to do that, you don't have to).

4-liners don't count toward Jiggies during night phases.

Huh what? So we just have higher limits for night phases? That's silly.

So I've been thinking of jiggies wrong, I was hoping they'd apply to the following day phase. I guess this means they apply to the night phase, when I don't really care as much about having more posts. I'll have to try and do some rhymes overnight then.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 6:02 pm

Yeah you're scum

I just don't get the Mac case. I don't see him drunkenly running out his post cap as mafia.

(25) oh guess I'm done. feel like I rationed them out pretty well tbh

let's do it [VOTE: tonystarkprime] aubergine

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I would vote Tony if that was on the table. I have zero reason to town read him; he's made so little impression that I kept forgetting he was even a player.

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God I can't believe this is happening again. Poor sig

I am p tired of him and MP just attacking each other though so whatever not gonna fight too hard

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NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 5:31 pm Not breaking a tie is scummy
Stick to your reads, dummy
I actually think you’re smart
But that doesn’t rhyme for a start

It's early enough that I expect someone else will break it anyway, or it could even swing to someone outside those two still. And I townread both Mac and sig (Mac admittedly more strongly) so yeah I'd rather not vote either. If it really comes down to it, idk. Cross that bridge at the deadline.

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I tiebroke onto sig to save my top townread last game and that didn't go well at all so Imma not gonna do that lel

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NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 5:19 pm I’m here and I haven’t read
That’s ok cause I’m still in charge
Why shouldn’t Sig end up dead?
The chances he’s mafia are very large

Really don't get why you think this so strongly
I really think that you're thinking wrongly
And that it's really such a level one thought
That I wonder whether you really believe it or not.

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I am concerned that Nanook seems to have disappeared. Hopefully we'll see more from him in the last few hours but I haven't got any particular townie feeling from his posts so far.

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smh @ mac recklessly hitting his post cap. RIP. He's town.

I'm not inspired by TH's responses to Mac. I get that TH has been "misunderstood" as a townie before but I don't get nearly the same sense from them this game that I often do. Their reads feel much more.. idk, manufactured somehow. maybe I'm just not following their godlike intuitive thought processes, but I feel so strongly that they're wrong about Mac that I'm not inclined to believe it's a real read.

You uh. You've played with Mac before right?

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