The Syndicate

S~V~S wrote:

Dom wrote:Matt, dom isn't retiring.

Maybe he confused Ricos Black & White avatar with yours? Rico did say HE was retiring.

Derp.

Dom wrote:So, Matt, was i right about you or nah?

Funny thing, I really didn't think you were bad at all. Shows what I know. Thanks for not killing me

DH and Dom retiring sounds lame.

Golden wrote:

Matt wrote:Btw, here's something ironic...

Dom was going after Golden quite a bit, and I thought Golden *might* be mafia after his stubborn defense of Bubbles, and I didn't want Golden to die yet because I knew I didn't have enough victims. So I target Dom in the hopes that Dom goes after Scarecrow instead of Golden. Dom reveals he was Scarecrow'd. Everyone lynches Dom for being Scarecrow, game ends, I lose.

I wasn't going to be lynched, Matt! You should have had more faith in me. Even though I'd offered my head up I was pretty sure no-one was going to take me up on it.

Did you target someone on day 5 or did you always skip that day with the idea of keeping the lie in your back pocket?

Actually, I accidentally forgot to send in a PM on Night 5. Then, when coming up with who I was "Scarecrow'd" with, I noticed my first post on Day 6 I was going after MP out of nowhere, and thought "Perfection". I don't even know why I went after MP. Again, anything I posted was pretty much bs (as usual )

Btw, here's something ironic...

Dom was going after Golden quite a bit, and I thought Golden *might* be mafia after his stubborn defense of Bubbles, and I didn't want Golden to die yet because I knew I didn't have enough victims. So I target Dom in the hopes that Dom goes after Scarecrow instead of Golden. Dom reveals he was Scarecrow'd. Everyone lynches Dom for being Scarecrow, game ends, I lose.

Golden wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:Matt were you not allowed to pick Harvey Bullock?

He picked it for me.

I had Golden pegged as a civ Day One. He was oozing civviness, I thought haha.

Also, I wasn't able to target people with dead roles. At some point, someone asked in thread "Why doesn't Scarecrow just target people with dead roles?" I think, but if I did, the target wouldn't have gone through.

Lol. For about 5 days or so (yes, again, even after Joker was revealed dead), I was convinced Golden was Joker. And because I did the knock knocks, I was convinced he knew I was Scarecrow. That whole time I thought we were working in collusion against the thread haha, but nope apparently not.

bea wrote:Don't know what matt was going on about how we had to help him continue on to be able to solve it

You could read any one of my posts this game and know it is pure, pure, pure bs. Okay, maybe that's not true.

I thought TH was bad because I lied in thread and said Riddler targeted me twice (knock knock and shakespeare), which he didn't. Again, I'm not entirely sure what happened on Night 1/Day 2 regarding the knock knocks.

Anyway, so then TH was cursed two days in a row, and I think he blamed Riddler, and I thought "Well I'm lying, so TH must be lying?" Derp.

Oh yeah, when SVS went after me for Derps, I was trippin' out. Gotta watch that, I think you may be right SVS haha.

Bullz, again, I feel bad dude. I actually thought by targeting you with me, that'd be cool so you could still win even if I was NK'd. Shoulda done that for everyone, tbh.

That was fun! Good game all.

Bullz, sorry I targeted you man, I thought I was doing you a favor by making me your target, this way if I was ever NK'd, you'd be good to go.

I was convinced Golden was the Joker for many phases. Even after Black Rock was lynched, I was like "Naaah, Golden's the joker fo sho". I targeted Golden Night 1. What exactly happened to me, what was up with the knock knocks? I mean, I read the Joker's secrets, something about if I target the Joker's target, so BR targeted Golden Night 1 too?

Nerolunar, sorry dude. Enrique caught me off guard asking who I thought was bad at the beginning of Day 2 (btw I totally knew what you were getting at Enrique haha), and I didn't want to answer Golden, so I just said "Nero" because I had a slight suspish of you stemming from you agreeing with me against Zebra about Arkham Asylum.

DH, I tried to solve your riddle but I'm stoopid so it didn't work out. Nice one, though.

juliets, you can always trust me.

Thanks Epi and LC for a great game. I hate to bring this up, but I didn't win! W/o the inactives, and with Dom dead, I count 10 players still living at end game, and I think only Golden, MP, Bullz, and Enrique were intoxicated. Still, great game and I expect a participation banner!

S~V~S wrote:You really remind me of me in LOST again, I was so sure. I hope you are right.

LOST Again was fun

Bullzeye wrote:I seriously feel like there's some kind of bts conspiracy to discredit me and protect Dom. This must be what it's like to be Matt.

Lorab seems like a good option, but I feel like Bullz knows something. I'm going to vote Dom.

The evidence seems to point more to Lorab, but I'm wondering if Bullz has info or some such. Like, he's really pushing hard for a Dom lynch.

SVS - Where do you think your vote is going today?

Golden wrote:

S~V~S wrote:

Bullzeye wrote:

Matt wrote:

Bullzeye wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:Sorry Bullz, I just don't have any large reason to believe Dom is Scarecrow over anyone else at this point, and he is reading genuine to me.

I take comfort in the fact I won't be the only one who loses because nobody agreed with me. I know it's not a huge case but it is something I feel strongly about and I have already pointed out what I think is a pretty big hole in the case for LoRab being Scarecrow.

This post makes me wonder if Lorab and Bullz are some sort of Falcone/Thorne or Falcone/Catwoman pairing, and Bullz is telling us the game is about to end with a lot of losers if we lynch Lorab.

Hrm.

I have no idea what LoRab's role is, but I'm 100% sure she isn't Scarecrow. What night was it she targeted you to need MP dead? Five? Yet Typh himself says she wouldn't have been around to know MP's role had been figured out by that point.

She posted both Day Five & Night Five, though

And making them need Robin dead is hardly reliant on knowing who MP was.

Oh, I just thought of something.

Just the other day, Lorab seemed to be under the impression that I was role hinting at Batman early on in the game (no, I wasn't btw), so that would make sense that back on day 5, she would target me for Robin. Just spitballing, but curious.

Haha, sorry DH.

Tbh, I feel like you've just been "whatevs" for most of the game.

For example, my case on you of being Nero's teammate. Yeah, you weren't, but still, you did say "Let's lynch Nero" while at the same time, you seemed to be against the lynch. Almost like no matter how it turned out, you could be like "see? toldja guys".

Btw DH, do you think SVS is a civilian?

Enrique wrote:

Bullzeye wrote:It benefits Scarecrow more to not look like he doesn't want his victims dead. Somebody going around saying let's lynch *scarecrow victim* is going to look a lot less likely to be Scarecrow and therefore draw less attention.

Yeah Bullz you might be overthinking that a little.

What do you think of DH?

Bullzeye wrote:Also Matt if I were Thorne I'd have picked you to support as quickly as I possibly could, so you can cross that one off the conspiracy list.

Bullzeye wrote:Linki - Doing so made it very easy for Dom to suddenly claim Scarecrow victims couldn't possibly BE Scarecrow, so yeah I do think that.

I'd rather vote for DH, but nobody seems to agree. Another thing in Dom's favor, and one reason why I don't suss Enrique of being Scarecrow, is because Dom has been after me for most of the game. Like, every day he comes at me with something. So why would he do that if he were Scarecrow?

Derp

Bullz - Do you think Dom would pretend to be scarecrow'd right after the thread started talking about getting the Scarecrow? That's the only thing holding me back from voting him.

Bullzeye wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:Sorry Bullz, I just don't have any large reason to believe Dom is Scarecrow over anyone else at this point, and he is reading genuine to me.

I take comfort in the fact I won't be the only one who loses because nobody agreed with me. I know it's not a huge case but it is something I feel strongly about and I have already pointed out what I think is a pretty big hole in the case for LoRab being Scarecrow.

This post makes me wonder if Lorab and Bullz are some sort of Falcone/Thorne or Falcone/Catwoman pairing, and Bullz is telling us the game is about to end with a lot of losers if we lynch Lorab.

Hrm.

Enrique wrote:I stick by the notion that we wouldn't regret lynching one of Matt and DH. Matt kinda brings up a good point in that trying to cast suspicion on MP doesn't make much sense as Scarecrow or Falcone, but it's still super shady to try to get him lynched even when he believes he's a civvie. Maybe save him for later but I really don't think Matt is a good guy here.

Excuse me? I never believed MP to be a civvie because he is not a civvie.

Enrique, I think you're thinking of the name "Robin" and you auto go "oh civvie", but no. Robin is an independent. A civ friendly indy who shares some civvie interests, sure, but an independent nonetheless.

Regardless, after Golden showed some class by admitting he needed Mac dead and not going after him, I felt like a dirtbag and stopped going after MP myself. It's ridiculous that I felt bad anyway, considering...yup, MP is not a civilian.

And again, if I was Falcone, I would've never brought MP up in thread and I would've NK'd his ass, no joke.

DH - Do you think SVS is a civvie? I'm not asking you if she's Scarecrow or Falcone, I'm just asking if you think she's civvie.

No crazy theories here, sorry.

I do think Enrique is bad/indy somehow, like I really think he is, but not necessarily Scarecrow or even Falcone. If tomorrow was just a normal day looking to lynch any baddie/indy, I'd vote him.

SVS - You defended DH really hard saying he would have definitely targeted you, I believe we had a discussion about it but I'm super tired and am being lazy as fuck not looking it up. You did agree that it's possible that DH was simply blocked and/or you were protected at some point, though, right?

I was thinking maybe it was Dom, too, but I don't think Dom would march into the thread a day after we started to take the Scarecrow hunt seriously and announce "oh hai guys i was scarecrow'd too haha".

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Enrique wrote:I have no idea what's not to believe but okay. I have no intention of lynching you if that's what you're worried about.

Why not? I just mentioned earlier today I'd sacrifice myself if enough people need me dead.

"MP was the sacrifice the Island demanded." Lol

Nah, but for real, I'd rather not waste a day to lynch you. I don't want to lose either, but wasting an entire phase to lynch a civ friendly indy doesn't seem ideal.

The targeted and their targets...

Golden - Mac (Bullock, Golden?)

Mac - ?

MP - Batman

Matt - Boy Wonder (MP)

Bullz - Scarecrow

Dom - Boy Wonder (MP)

Enrique - ??? Looked through your ISO Enrique, can't find who you were targeted with.

RIP no one.

As for what we should do this phase, I'd rather look for Scarecrow first but if town just wants to get on with it, whatever I guess. I don't suppose there's any way MP would request a mod kill on himself?

Been doing some ISO's...no such luck in learning anything btw, but I thought this was funny and wanted to share...this is ekeknat's second to last post in the game...

ekeknat wrote:i was here earlier this morning but at this point i've missed like ten pages - just wanted to confirm there's no, like, conspiracy role that's eating all the lurkers, or if there is, it hasn't eaten me.. i just don't really want to get in the middle of things, lol. sorry if that's frustrating. i am at the least keeping track of things

Bwahahahaha.

Typhoony wrote:Good point. Are the people still scarecrowed certain their target is alive?

Yeah, MP.

Unless Falcone kills MP, and he has no reason to as far as I'm aware, then I just realized I'm probably going to lose no matter what.

Lame.

RIH Bubbles.

Golden, I don't know what basis your using to differentiate "def not Falcone" and "prolly not Falcone", but I'm in the def not Falcone category. I guess you don't know that for sure, but still. I'd like to remind everyone that we've been tinkering with lynching Bubbles a few times, and I think I helped get us over that hump today by pointing out her lurkiness last night w/o posting. In addition, again, Sabie and I both voted Arkham Asylum on Day 1 (after I had already voted Arkham on Day 0), and we also both voted City Hall, I believe, before Day 4. True, again, in a parallel universe where I am Falcone, we could've done that to throw everyone off, but no that's not how it went down.

Other people I'm crossing off my Falcone list...

1. MP. For obvi reasons. Still, if Falcone wants to kill MP, that'd be solid. No offense MP.

2. Golden. Twice in this game, in her whopping 13 posts, she agreed with exactly two people in the thread. Myself and Golden. I think she did this in an attempt to make us look bad later.

3. Lorab. This is gonna sound weird, but check it. After Sabie died, Bubbles was talking about her and said something like "he? she?" in regards to sabie's gender. I wonder if today, when Bubbles "didn't know" Lorab's gender, if that was an attempt to make it look like Bubbles and Lorab WERE teamies since Bubbles also "didn't know" sabie's gender earlier.

Yeah I know, weird, but that's how I feel lulz.

This game is a trip.

Epignosis wrote:

Matt wrote:Maybe if MP votes we can get an early lynch post.

Not going to happen.

Yeah cuz that wouldn't be fair to Bass, eke, and Equiv.

Maybe if MP votes we can get an early lynch post.

I'd be willing to vote for Dom but after getting my head chewed off the other day, I'd like Dom to at least show up first.

Also, I did gun read him bad, but I think it's because he's been after me all game and just won't stop. I really don't have a reason to suspect him otherwise of just being wrong and a poo poo head.

I really want to vote Bubbles. Doing the math, if I vote Bubbles, DH votes Bubbles, and Lorab votes Bubbles, then Golden voting DH would make it a tie.

Linki - And there's juliets with the tie breaker. Bubbles.

Matt wrote:

Golden wrote:I won't hold votes to ransom

But how about a Dom vote?

How about a Bass vote?

That's not to be taken too seriously, btw haha, but maybe a little. I just mean, sorry, I guess I'm behind, but I'm now realizing any of the no-shows could also be bad. Also, forget which game, either R&B or TWars, but Epi was like "I'm gunning for no shows after what's happened in these recent games I've hosted" so something tells me it's more then just Floyd who is a no show/baddie.

Golden wrote:I won't hold votes to ransom

But how about a Dom vote?

How about a Bass vote?

I feel like if I vote Bubbles, then Golden might get an itchy trigger finger and vote DH, which I don't necessarily want to happen. Hrm.

I dun understand why da Prisoner is in this thread

Golden wrote:Lets vote Dom?

Where's Dom been? Don't tell me he's been silenced today.

S~V~S wrote:I don't have a civ read onhim, I don't think he is Scarecrow. When DH thinks I am bad, and he thought so for some portion of the game, he targets me. I am untargeted by Scarecrow. I don't think he is Scarecrow.

How do you know he didn't target you and he was blocked or you were protected?

I'm not sold on DH being Scarecrow btw, just wondering why you hadn't thought of that.

Cuz earlier you said he was one of your only non-civ reads. And that was before you listed 1/3 of the players as non civ reads.

Derp.

I'd be down with a vote for Bubbles or Dom. Even though I view her as bad, I wouldn't want to vote Lorab because I think Bubbles' vote is weird and I don't like it.

Bullzeye wrote:

Matt wrote:Relax Bullz, lol, I labeled you as "Town/indy". And I didn't label you civ friendly because something in the back of my mind is hounding me, saying "Would Bullz put up that display of 'oh poor me' if he were bad?" and I keep coming back to "yes, yes he would" haha.

I don't really know what to say in response to this other than I wasn't putting on a display. I hate people going on about me "overreacting" to everything and it genuinely makes me want to just walk out for good if that's all people think of me.

If you want some pure WIFOM, if I were bad I'd have just bitched about it in btsc and not had to say anything in the thread. Anyone who's ever had btsc with me knows how much I love a good bitching session.

Um okay Bullz. You react weird to being called "town/indy", I'll tell you that.

Who is your top suss today? DH?

Golden wrote:

Matt wrote:WHOA

Light bulb.

Enrique/Bullzeye's back and forth on the low posters...

Since we established that the hosts let DF send in the kills while Floyd was alive (presumably), we can also assume that the hosts would also allow Falcone to send in the kills even if their theoretical no show partner was alive, as well, right?

Yes, Matt. We already established that many times over, as per Dom pointing out rule 12 at the start of day 10.

Lol. Okey dokey, well consider me caught up then.

Relax Bullz, lol, I labeled you as "Town/indy". And I didn't label you civ friendly because something in the back of my mind is hounding me, saying "Would Bullz put up that display of 'oh poor me' if he were bad?" and I keep coming back to "yes, yes he would" haha.

WHOA

Light bulb.

Enrique/Bullzeye's back and forth on the low posters...

Since we established that the hosts let DF send in the kills while Floyd was alive (presumably), we can also assume that the hosts would also allow Falcone to send in the kills even if their theoretical no show partner was alive, as well, right?

Bullzeye wrote:

Golden wrote:

S~V~S wrote:

Enrique wrote:Does anyone think DH is good at all?

Bizarrely enough, I do.

Linki @ Golden, once again, I am talking about her posts in this game. Not every game. Someone corrected her out of the thread about Lorabs gender, imo.

I think you underestimate bubbles wildly if you think she is silly enough to have the gender corrected in btsc and then come in and post about it.

Also there's one minute between her referring to LoRab as male and then apologising if she used the wrong pronoun.

Questions...

1) What did you mean when you said "This should be interesting" in response to my G2H'ing you Town/indy?

2) Can you please post your reads even if most are civ?

I'd like to point something out btw.

I defended Bubbles early on in the game against Lorab, and even recently (maybe a phase or two ago?). Bubbles earlier in the game defended me, and now suddenly "agrees with Matt on Lorab".

If Bubbles IS bad, a mafia and there is one more on her team...what she is doing is implicating me as being her partner, IMO. I don't like it, and wanted to address this immediately.

If it makes me look bad, whatevs, but I'm really not liking Bubbles buddying up to me the way she has.

Enrique wrote:My list isn't a list of possibilities as such. I took myself and MP out of it for obvious reasons.

Apologies. I was vaguely thinking of this post when mentioning the "obvious civ" thing, but what you were saying was that you obviously weren't Scarecrow.

Seriously Bubbles?

I was leaning towards a Dom vote today, but I think I'm going to end up voting Bubbles tbh. I feel she's bad, and even if that means the game ends and I lose (assuming she's the last baddie), oh well.

Linki - Oh, Enrique? Could've swore you recently said you were. I'll ISO you real quick.

Hrm. I don't even know why I find Lorab fishy, so why do you find her fishy?

Who do you think is the Scarecrow?

Golden wrote:Matt, why have I marked you as civ?

It's just how I'm reading Enrique. It's not my words that he is 'obvious' civ.

No, I know it's not your words, as I said, those were Enrique's words. Just wondering if I missed something, because for him to declare as such, I feel like I must have missed something somewhere.

Bass - None
Bubbles - Bad
Bullzeye - Town/indy, leaning indy
DH - Indy
Dom - Bad
eke - None
Enrique - ...Bad/Indy. Enrique has said that it's "obvious he's civ" and both Golden/Typh have him marked as such...can I ask why?
Equivocate - None
Golden - Town/town friendly indy, leaning town
juliets - Town
Lorab - Hrm. Bad. I don't know why, it's just how I feel.
Matt - Town
MP - Yup
SVS - Town/town friendly indy
Typh - Indy

Yeah, can someone tell me why Enrique is obvi town? Maybe I missed it.

This day seems to be going nowhere. If we can get enough people to pop in, maybe we should do a G2H.

Even if Bubbles is bad, do we think she's the Scarecrow? Because I'd like to take out Scarecrow first unless Falcone plans on taking out MP soon (no offense MP).

Matt wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:

Matt wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:

Matt wrote:Golden - As a civ, is Bubbles more or less likely to read the thread and not post anything? Same question as a baddie, I suppose. Last night she was lurking but didn't post.

What are you thinking?

Little late in the game to be lurking especially after she's taken heat for that whacked out vote.

I was thinking along those lines...

More like, Golden said she has trouble lying as a baddie, so maybe that's why she didn't post.

Btw, I'd like to point out that SVS has hardcore fucked with my mind. I intentionally left out a "derp" at the end of that post because I didn't want SVS thinking I was bad for it.

DERP DERP DERP

DharmaHelper wrote:

Matt wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:

Matt wrote:Golden - As a civ, is Bubbles more or less likely to read the thread and not post anything? Same question as a baddie, I suppose. Last night she was lurking but didn't post.

What are you thinking?

Little late in the game to be lurking especially after she's taken heat for that whacked out vote.

I was thinking along those lines...

More like, Golden said she has trouble lying as a baddie, so maybe that's why she didn't post.

DharmaHelper wrote:

Matt wrote:Golden - As a civ, is Bubbles more or less likely to read the thread and not post anything? Same question as a baddie, I suppose. Last night she was lurking but didn't post.

What are you thinking?