The Syndicate

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:07 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 5:21 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 5:20 pmRondo... why was he targeting n0? I thought his role was based around voting?
Huh, yeah. That needs clearing up.
no it doesnt? You have a green on me?

Well, yeah, I didn't mean it in that way. Just that it's confusing for us.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 9:22 am

You're right, DM moved

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 5:32 pm @Long Con is your ability a night action?

Yes. Pretty standard.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 5:27 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 5:25 pm I would have gone pyxxy over Serhal. I was on pyxxy... but then pyxxy was too present, and could have thrown a wrench.
Sure but I mean like earlier, much earlier. Pyxxy would have been pressured by mafia after his PR claim. That's how mafia deal with it. They just laugh, call him outed and force him to full claim with vote pressure.

I thought the pressure on pyxxy was weak and afterthought-ish, compared to the Main Events in the thread. Maybe the wolves held out hope it would stay that way.

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 5:28 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 5:05 pm Also, three people were roleblocked on N0. At least 3. If Scotty is telling the truth.
The way my role works means I wasn’t *necessarily* blocked. I got clarification that it can fail if certain conditions aren’t met.

And before you read into that, it’s not a 3p claim or whatever

I would never, sir.

Oh wait, you didn't mean me specifically.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 5:26 pm If you were mafia, why would you not just vote Pyxxy unless he's also mafia? Help me comprehend this?

He was the easiest push in the game, he claims PR without full claiming.

That mafia didn't push him means he's mafia.

I vote pyxxy, then pyxxy could have easily just made it 4 on Rondo.

I would have gone pyxxy over Serhal. I was on pyxxy... but then pyxxy was too present, and could have thrown a wrench.

Which means sig maybe blocked Rondo, if Scotty targeted Mac, which seems likely.

Wait, no, I assumed he was told he was blocked, despite it being a wasted block.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 5:21 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 5:21 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 5:13 pm What are the chances Roxy would use anti claim in her games? I've never played a Roxy game before.
As in, fake Town rolecards given to the Wolves? I would bet against it.
No, anticlaim is the ability to kill people who full claim their role. It's used widely these days to stop town from winning game via full claiming.

No, roleclaim and infodumping are allowed, it says in the OP.

leetic wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 5:21 pm Might as well claim my full ability, because I can't guarantee that I won't be mislynched D3 and I can't guarantee that I won't be targeted with a post restriction/silence D3, and I think my information is too important for town to lose.

Basically, every night I get three statements about the game, two are true and one is a lie, and I pick one to add to the SoD post. Basically, an Oracle variant, and I softed this role in my opening post.

For N0, the three statements were that there were two baddies, there were three baddies, and that town had no BTSC. As the first two statements are contradictory, the third had to be true, so I selected it.

For N1, I got my statements at 10:00 AM EST, only a couple hours before SoD. (I didn't get my statements for tonight yet, so it'll presumably happen at around the same time) They were that there is a janitor in the game, that one player was found to be town, and the statement about double targeting. I selected the second, as I thought that the first would self-resolve and I was unsure of the value of the third statement. If that is true, it would lend credence to LC's claim, as we have seen no counterclaims of a cleared townie. However, that depends on one of the other statements being false. While the hosts may have inadvertently confirmed the first as false, perhaps it will be more clear if we have a larger sample size of nightkill flips. That leaves the third to be proven/disproven.

I'll try to get the third set up here once it arrives.

I assumed that referenced me as well.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 5:20 pmRondo... why was he targeting n0? I thought his role was based around voting?

Huh, yeah. That needs clearing up.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 5:13 pm What are the chances Roxy would use anti claim in her games? I've never played a Roxy game before.

As in, fake Town rolecards given to the Wolves? I would bet against it.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 5:07 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 5:05 pm Also, three people were roleblocked on N0. At least 3. If Scotty is telling the truth.
How many of them were targeting me?

Guilty as charged. Is that how it is? Rondo was blocked, and did not target you, iirc. Scotty, unknown.

Also, three people were roleblocked on N0. At least 3. If Scotty is telling the truth.

leetic wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 5:04 pm Can someone list all the mechanical information we have so far? LC claimed investigative on RDB (green), Abby claimed post restrictor, sig is Roleblocker and Scotty claimed roleblocked if I remember correctly, Serhal is Vig and probably didn't use it on falcon, anything I'm missing?

I think that covers it.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 5:03 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 5:00 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 4:58 pm I would say if Scotty is town that Abigail/Tutuu/Robyn can be a team. But ... you have to appreciate that would mean you're looking at a game where the entire mafia team intentionally played the whole game to pocket me and do little else. All three of them have hard townread me pretty much the whole time. It's disarming for anyone and very hard when the mafia do something like that. Not saying it's bad/wrong moreso just excusing myself for not catching on if it is that. In that scenario the onus is certainly on other town to see what I wouldn't be able to.
This POV is one I can get on board with.
Don't get me wrong. I don't think that's the team.

I think something like...

Scotty/DM/Pyxxy
or
Leetic/DM/Pyxxy
or
Abigail/DM/Pyxxy

Is more plausible.

Is Scotty outing his blockedness early on kind of towny?

Wolves: the two neighbours, and the boss?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 5:02 pm we are assuming 3 wolves right?

I have no argument against it.

leetic wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 5:00 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 4:42 pm Leetic showing up JUST after the yeet was very suspicious to me, as was tutuu's absence.
Maybe I just wasn't awake at the time of EoD? The times when I was online should confrim

Maybe.

Which one should I check tonight?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 4:58 pm I would say if Scotty is town that Abigail/Tutuu/Robyn can be a team. But ... you have to appreciate that would mean you're looking at a game where the entire mafia team intentionally played the whole game to pocket me and do little else. All three of them have hard townread me pretty much the whole time. It's disarming for anyone and very hard when the mafia do something like that. Not saying it's bad/wrong moreso just excusing myself for not catching on if it is that. In that scenario the onus is certainly on other town to see what I wouldn't be able to.

This POV is one I can get on board with.

Correct.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 4:52 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 4:52 pm No one got off Rondo on to someone else.
That's not true. He ended with 3 voted and had 5 at one point. So at least 2 players did.

That was before he was green-checked.

No one got off Rondo on to someone else.

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 4:44 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 4:42 pm Leetic showing up JUST after the yeet was very suspicious to me, as was tutuu's absence.
i wasn't enjoying the vibes of the thread so i set a mental (imaginary) alarm clock to come back before eod but i forgot about it

LOL sure, ok let's go with that.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 4:42 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 4:40 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 4:31 pm I don't know how I'm supposed to get my vote off of someone who waits until I'm sound asleep to claim their role. @Long Con old friend please teach me this skill.
They don't have alarms down undah?

Anyway, I was just frustrated that none of the Rondo voters could bother showing up within six hours of the elimination.

Why isn't tutuu mafia??
My first reason would be that their read on why they townread me was the most nuanced of any of them. My second reason is that their wim/joy towards this game has felt genuine and mirrored how I've felt about it.

So, nothing that resonates, nothing with actual teeth.

Leetic showing up JUST after the yeet was very suspicious to me, as was tutuu's absence.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 4:39 pmDoubtful his wagon is pure.

Back up this statement.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 4:31 pm I don't know how I'm supposed to get my vote off of someone who waits until I'm sound asleep to claim their role. @Long Con old friend please teach me this skill.

They don't have alarms down undah?

Anyway, I was just frustrated that none of the Rondo voters could bother showing up within six hours of the elimination.

Why isn't tutuu mafia??

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:56 pmit would mean multiple wolves between porscha robyn mac abigail leetic.

That is entirely possible.

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:51 pm @RondoDimBuckle do you have some mech information on Scotty now after these wagons and ties?

The only info we would get would be that, if Scotty was a Wolf, he would have had a 33% chance of getting eliminated. Since he didn't, we don't know anything about him.

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:42 pm oh wait im a mafia player i cant read

you didnt out your full claim and i missed the part where u say you need to be on the wagon yourself

alright fine, keep your secrets, i'll trust u

"my vote actually counts for nothing unless I vote for a wolf."

This is pretty clear.

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:44 pm the original plan (from what i read) was tie rondo and scotty

that wasn't bad. if scotty is mafia scotty would have always died. if scotty is town we always lose rondo but now scotty is peeked town. so what was the problem? it was a good idea

It was a terrible idea. To clear Scotty, we sacrifice the guaranteed Town that we know? Never ever a good idea.

Wow, I hope your hindsight can help us in the next lynch

Scotty... Are you caught up with the town cleared people?

leetic wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 1:24 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 1:23 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 1:14 pm Did y'all seriously get rid of another AFK when I was asleep
Try showing up when it matters before you criticize us
Shame on me for expecting some basic game sense from y'all. I can't stay up all night

Real convenient. Read the damn thread and tell us what you would have done then genius.

leetic wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 1:14 pm Did y'all seriously get rid of another AFK when I was asleep

Try showing up when it matters before you criticize us

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 1:01 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 1:00 pm go for it and both vote me, I ain't fullclaiming

Long Con you still owe me a pelt

I told you to get me a pelt before reading me again
Lc is town for saving me here

Not to mention I claim Clark and there will be no CC

What a shitshow

Fine I'm there already

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 12:59 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 12:59 pm Yeah we both vote pyxxy?
You tell me who we vote

I JUST DONT WANT YOU TO DIE I DONT KNOW

Not the time

Yeah we both vote pyxxy?

[VOTE: serhal] aubergine

Keep catching up

I will. Still holding out hope for more players showing up.

This unusual poll end time is about to lose the game for us.

Rondo not being in the tie is the top priority.

Better to have no tie at all.

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 12:05 pm I can live with a serhal/rondo tie

Are you insane

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