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I just realized that if I had been right about Manny being Caesar's Legion, I would have put a huge nightkill target on my head. Then Seanzie came in saying he thought itwas true, and then HE ate the nightkill. So I feel good on a personal level that I didn't have to be the one, but RIP Seanzie; I can't say I didn't see it coming a little.
I think it's very likely that this is the fakeclaim given to Caesar's Legion.Manny wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 3:56 pmHardclaim Town Enclave Remnants [aka Town PR].
Im prolly consensus scumread enough that makes forcing wolves to self-resolve my ass at night worth it + i think its somewhat likely i might actually die today without claiming cuz Mac is still stuck on me!wolf apparently
Which three posts?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 8:37 pm Ok Epi some people who are unaware of the circumstances in life think that we are wolves and I think the best way to prove them wrong is to vote for chelsea who I think is a wolf because I read three of their posts and they seemed wolfy to me and also I think voting for nanook on day 2 is bad but he can be a wolf here for sure
Sorry, mixed up Chelsea and Creature's names.Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 8:53 pmI don't really consider him town yet but he followed what I said and voted to get a wagon above me so I'm fine letting him on the wagon.Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 8:50 pmI can't fault your taste in townreads, although I don't see Creature as shining town yet.Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 8:44 pmI was tunneling you to survive.
Basically thought I was gonna be up to vote forever...of course there's time. And I didn't townread you so decided "Fuck it try to hero push someone" and you were it.
Then Lan and Jack said they townread you so I'm letting them have it.
Can you vote Nanook then?
How about this: If Creature going to get voted out, then I will - contingent on it not being one of MY townreads - join the counterwagon.
If Nook flips maf then Creature is prolly just town.
Also you have Nook under Chelsea in your reads list so like...wouldn't it make sense to vote him over Chelsea?
I can't fault your taste in townreads, although I don't see Creature as shining town yet.Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 8:44 pmI was tunneling you to survive.
Basically thought I was gonna be up to vote forever...of course there's time. And I didn't townread you so decided "Fuck it try to hero push someone" and you were it.
Then Lan and Jack said they townread you so I'm letting them have it.
Can you vote Nanook then?
Yeah, but is it a billboard with information that is conducive to a Town win?Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 8:42 pmTonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 8:37 pm Ok Epi some people who are unaware of the circumstances in life think that we are wolves and I think the best way to prove them wrong is to vote for chelsea who I think is a wolf because I read three of their posts and they seemed wolfy to me and also I think voting for nanook on day 2 is bad but he can be a wolf here for sure
Hey, you dropped these: , , C , , . A , .TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 8:37 pm Ok Epi some people who are unaware of the circumstances in life think that we are wolves and I think the best way to prove them wrong is to vote for chelsea who I think is a wolf because I read three of their posts and they seemed wolfy to me and also I think voting for nanook on day 2 is bad but he can be a wolf here for sure
Yeah... I don't think they're Mafia. That was a knee-jerk reaction after getting up early this morning and seeing that.Dunnstral wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 11:53 amSure, but even if they did that I don't think that makes them mafiaLong Con wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 7:55 am Okay. So I went from "players I don't explicitly townread" list, to "everyone come on, vote Long Con!!" without a single reason why. It's like you just picked a name from your list and just *decided* to try and get a wagon started.
I think you're done here, other LC. [VOTE: Lime Coke] aubergine
I think I saw this asked during my 8-ish page catchup... but is "X" something you don't want to share?Chelsea wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 12:54 pmI believe I've answered the second question a bit ago, as for the other ones:
1) While Falcon and Tony at that point in time just felt like throwing darts and picking a read, I saw some conviction and sway in your posts, even if there wasn't a lot it was enough that I didn't like the direction you were going with it. You believe you're firmly in your town meta? Why are you so towny that the play you're displaying can't be from a wolf?
3) I see parts of Brad's wolf meta, but with the way Brad is playing if he's a wolf X is happening and quite frankly he's never won when X is happening so I'm perfectly fine to let that go through. I just think he's town though and going out in a blaze of glory. I understand why people would vote that for game sake but yeah.
"A few years ago" gives me very little confidence in your level of ability to judge him.Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 1:43 pmWell, you’d be hard pressed to get someone on forum to look you in the eye unless you’re exactly part of the matrix, but:Chelsea wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 12:58 pmThe last time Brad told me someone was so obviously town they were the last mafia and I never read the slot because I trusted his read there.
However if Brad looked me in the eye and said "yeah Scotty is just town" I'd leave you alone until I couldn't probably.
WHAAAA did you unlock some secret tech? [Wait, why is this still visible then? What did you do??]
Hey, what's Newcomb Tell, and how did I break it?
Yeah, me too at this point.LanMisa wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 3:08 pmI get that sentiment but I am leaning towards Lime being on a towny mental breakdown rather than a wolfy one.Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 7:55 am Okay. So I went from "players I don't explicitly townread" list, to "everyone come on, vote Long Con!!" without a single reason why. It's like you just picked a name from your list and just *decided* to try and get a wagon started.
I think you're done here, other LC. [VOTE: Lime Coke] aubergine
This post hit me like a truth. Could be because I don't really go past-game digging, but is this performative from Seanzie?Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 3:55 pmSeanzie just give it up not like you're gonna look at the games anyway.Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 3:48 pmNo.Chelsea wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 3:39 pmIs it? Please tell me if I'm going crazy because these past few pages make me think I'm going crazy and maybe my statements are hard to read or I'm the problem but I don't feel like I am so please TELL ME IF I'M GOING CRAZYLime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 3:38 pmThat's normal.Chelsea wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 3:37 pmNo, I've also come away from the conversation that has me moving Sean up on my reads list but it feels like I have to pull out my teeth just to get an attempt at the answer I'm looking for.LanMisa wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 3:36 pmI see that the two of you have an argument here but I don't feel like my brain has enough power to process it for now. Too much text, too many names. I'll try to have a look into it tomorrow and get back to it on D3.
I do still feel like many of Sean's posts since D2 started have been very deep and towny though, so if that's the point of debate this is my stance on it.
I asked you two specific questions. 1. WHICH POSTS, and 2. NAME A GAME. Question 1 considers 51 possible posts, so there are exactly 2^{51} possible answers to that question, and thus you can give a complete answer. 2. also has a finite number of possible answers (the number of games you and Brad played together). You haven't asnwered either of those. Those VERY SPECIFIC calls... which ALSO CAME FIRST.
And then you fault me for not answering the question "So if you're so well aware [objective towniness] exists what stops you from applying it to a wolf game?" (which I believe I did, but apparently not to your satisfaction). DO you understand the difference between the questions I'm asking (that you're avoiding) and the one you're asking? MINE AREN'T OPEN ENDED. THEY'RE SPECIFIC. If I did not write a long enough essay for your question, OH SORRY! You thought did not answer a MULTIPLE CHOICE question.
There is NO real answer to your question. It might as well be a discussion prompt. MY QUESTIONS have ONE answer (or if you are BSing, which I think you are, zero answers).
It was out of left field, I don't get why a claim would be made at that point. Was it to clear/incriminate another player?
I would vote out TSP. He's playing exactly like he did last game, where he was town. TOO exactly. I thought it was a schtick, and called him on it last game... but it was just how he was playing. This might be an attempt to emulate that, so as to be able to say "see? that's town Tony, look at his last game!"
Voting Nanook is so incredibly easy to do, and I have no big reason not to, but would you mind a sentence or two reminding me why it's the right thing, and not just the shrug thing?
That's not how I would treat my wolf teammates. It might be the wrong idea to read Brad as same-same as Mac? This just stood out as a reasoning red flag.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 10:56 am Ur mafia because when I dropped my poe Brad decided to go immediately into wifom antispew townreading you which is how wolf mac treats wolf teammates.
Is that what Mac wolf would do?Ur mafia because you entered the game when seanzie and scotty were pressuring Brad and pretended to sus him them somehow placed him as Ur top town.
Did you even do a swab? These rumours can ruin lives manUr mafia because you have wolf cooties.
Let's get through the night first.Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 9:59 pmCan we kill him if this flips town?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 9:58 pm Welp. Fingers crossed on Sig I guess. Bigger chance that flips wolf than Seanzie.
I don't specifically remember, but I guarantee there are many games in the Syndicate history that would display that behaviour. I'm just not into that deep dive with 9 minutes remaining. Or, probably, other times either.
@Creature
What is this, some form of irony?
Save those, you never know...Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 9:16 pmOof.Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 9:14 pm Yeah I just saw it now.
Him saying anything about having an accurate read on me is 100% false because literally he tried scumreading me like 5 games in a row and I was town.
And I berated him in the final 2 because, again, he's someone that doesn't learn his lesson.
*closes notebook full of Brad and Seanzie kissing doodles*
Well, I must say, I really hate all of that, I am distressed by my mafia friends fighting.Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 9:11 pmHe's a liar if he said anything different.Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 9:09 pmThis feels different than the way Seanzie described your relationship.
I ended up banned from PersonalityCafe because he fucked up a game horribly, then after I torched him and called him out on his mistakes he cried to moderators about it and took a break from mafia after.
Like I wouldn't be making this shit up.
Well it is a Syndicate Classic.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 9:09 pm LC and Michelle are my towncore atm. *checks player list*
Did I say towncore? I meant only townreads. :-/
Though I do kinda vibe with Tony being like “we really gonna just walking into another D1 Sig yeet?”
This feels different than the way Seanzie described your relationship.
I wouldn't be averse to it, since I believe the rules allow it in this one. That's not always the case here. I think there are lots of extra roles in the list, though, so fake claims are likely. But, hey, that's what fakeclaims are for, so yeah, I expect some desperation claiming.
I think he was just being funny.
Yeah, I hope the last hour brings more players in.
Wow, this is worse than the time in Walmart with the headlights!TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 8:27 pm As a life update I am now wanted by the Seminole Nation
I thought I'd check you on this. National Lampoons I went after Porscha about this aggressively, and I don't think it's notably aggressive. Can't talk about ongoing games, but the name 'sig' comes to mind.Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 6:35 pm I’m in a weird spot with LC.
I think if my shitty memory holds up, we have now had 2 recent games where I was wolf against his town and basically trampled him both times (I might be wrong on one of those, but definitely have done one pretty recently). I think it makes sense for him to have a pretty healthy guardedness on my play. I’m also having a hard time determining fabricated suspicion v real solving with a bunch of names town reading me AND scum reading me.
So I don’t want to outright OMGUS him for his treatment of me. But it is more aggressive in its approach than I remember of his recent town games. I’d call him light scum atm but want to see how he approaches other people instead of me because my judgment might be clouded
If that makes any sense
I haven't read the LanMisa/Scotty thing yet but Lan seems all right.
