The Syndicate

I have to leave until Sunday. I will try to check in, but I'll be at a cottage with no internet. I can drive into town and get some, so I'll do that to get necessary game stuff done. Just don't expect me to be in the thread. Good luck folks!

I put all my money into Hope I hope that's not a problem

I got a message regarding Lissa's role. She's a role checker.

In fact let's end it right now.

moth wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 10:42 pm my talisman was smashed

I understand, bro.

cayvie likely has the lowest Quickness on the scum team though.

I agree with yeeting Joseph today. [VOTE: joseph] aubergine

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 9:14 pm No one has been banished!

Oopsie

bronana wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 2:30 pm i was just making a joke lol

I kind of knew. Just talking the opportunity to reiterate. We should all check to see if motobot gave us a boost with his Hope.

bronana wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 2:18 pmdadv

We'll all load up on Presence, and we'll all vote the same wolf tomorrow. What else is there to talk about?

And dammit, Joseph, I want your fucking check from last night!!

And I guess it goes without saying that everyone needs to spend every Sol on Presence from now on.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:28 pm Take moth off then ig

ORRRRRRRRRRRRR maybe pick randomly from one of us town types and then they won't kill the one you pick!

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:16 pm Didn’t motobot have a role that should’ve prevented this? Idk maybe he didn’t have the glory for it

He has to decide the night before

No problemo. We still have a chance or it would be over. Let's win this together!

I think all three of them are wolves.

Never know with LC.

I'm 3rd party that can win with the wolves.

I'm not talking to you.

[mention]motobot[/mention] please give your Hope to my Presence

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 8:40 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 8:38 pm Hope you enjoyed your last AtE, Joseph.

That wasn't fake at all but it's ok.

Doesn't need to be.

Hope you enjoyed your last AtE, Joseph.

ok

So the wolves are in cayvie, Joseph, and Lissa.

Will Joseph return to change his vote?

cayvie wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 6:54 pm [VOTE: motobot] aubergine last hope tbh

Or are you and Lissa just the last two scum, and you've been tricking us?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 5:06 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 4:52 pm I'd prefer checking you, Nanook. Surely you would like to be cleared, right?

I already basically am dude

Think about the worlds here...

If I were partners with Lissa...why would I call for joe to check between Lissa and bronana then leave him alive?

If there’s really 3p cayvie is certainly one of them...do you think this game started with 5 scum AND 1-2 3p, with one of those 3p as powerful as cayvie seems to be? I don’t. So we’re very likely either in a world of 4 scum plus 1-2 3p, or 5 scum with a weak 3p (in which case cayvie is likely just mafia)


Do you see what I’m saying here? I’m unlikely to be scum with townJoe, there aren’t likely to be 3 scum alive without cayvie being one of them (which rules out a team of Nanook/joe/Lissa), thus...I’m unlikely to be scum.

Ok.

cayvie wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 6:54 pm [VOTE: motobot] aubergine last hope tbh

Is he your 3p partner?

I'd prefer checking you, Nanook. Surely you would like to be cleared, right?

moth wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 4:04 pm youve played here a ton long con. do you think this is normal nutella?

Yes, this is normal enough nutella. She's hard to read, very good at faking town when bed.

moth wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 4:00 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:59 pm I'm cleared via bronana. I mean, if you accept that Lissa is anti-cleared through the same method, which clearly you do. How about Joseph checks NANOOK, and moth sends nutella's role to bronana?

I dont know that I quite understand why zack would even choose lissa as a target. he had her locked as town day 1-6

He didn't choose her as a target. She posted her stats, which he then had an opportunity to analyze through the lens of his role.

moth wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:59 pm plus peeling anyone off a lissa wagon rn might be really anti town if our only motive is a rolecop message

I think it's worth the risk.

moth wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:58 pm Im cautious in the sense id rather lose a game to guessing wrong on final scum than being duped by a mechanical clear blunder that is fraudulent

Let's generate those mechanical clears before we decide what's legit and what's not.

I'm cleared via bronana. I mean, if you accept that Lissa is anti-cleared through the same method, which clearly you do. How about Joseph checks NANOOK, and moth sends nutella's role to bronana?

[mention]cayvie[/mention] feel like voting Lissa today?

Shall we plan where moth's and Mac's checks should go tonight for greatest town advantage?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:01 pm...with one vote on Mac for moth to send the role to

I think I missed some element here.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:59 pm Like it’s not a perfect red check but it’s like

As good as it’s gonna get here I think

It's better than a red check to me. It's too detailed to make up. If it's made up, then I want lessons from bronana. With a red check, you have to question the source, and possible misdirects or info-sabotage. Bronana's claim is clear as an unmuddied lake.

Lissa wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:43 am i am a villager so i dunno what to tell you zack

i cannot imagine the stat boosts from your role just show in that manner, seems gamebreaking. have to imagine long con got the extra hope in some other manner, someone else's hope i guess probably. seems bizarre but idk where else it could be from really

Sorry, Lissa, but I have to go with the alleged evidence on this one. I don't see it as gamebreaking, because it requires one to voluntarily give their stats info. For me, it provided unintended vindication, and for you, condemnation. We both took a risk when we came forward with our stats.

Allegedly.

He could be wolfy. What do you think of the Lissa revelation, Joseph?

He's also been blocked once or twice.

moth wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 5:11 pm typical that id be right but people just didnt wanna hear it

I'll have to have more respect for your reads in the future! What I value more are mechanical checks, such as your ability to send information. The respect I gain now for your excellent reads is, unfortunately, overshadowed by my lack of respect for you deliberately not using your ability as well and often as possible. That's just how I play personally, but I'm sure other may regard keen thread analysis over mechanical advantage.

I would like to yeet the scum blocker, and I don't think that Lissa is likely to be the blocker, due to her Glory being cut with outed wolf's death, but anything is possible with enough Sol, right?

[VOTE: lissa] aubergine We need to take out a wolf today.

Why is Nanook town? Why shouldn't we yeet Nanook? He's one of the main contenders to be the scum blocker.

cayvie wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 11:33 am

Lissa wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 6:17 am

bronana wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:31 am

Lissa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 6:00 pm i protect my target's presence/quickness from negative effects that night

i started with enough glory to act, don't really think it is a good idea to claim other stats

This is a bizarrely specific role

is there any evidence at all that there are actions that would negative effect presence or quickness?

technically tony but that seems ridiculous as the extent of it and i have to imagine a non village one exists

otherwise this would be dumb, seems extremely niche anyway

does it protect from talisman smashing

asking for a friend

Do you need to smash talismans to win?

Can you target the same poor player twice?

One factor is, can we allow motobot to get to YOLO, even if he's town? Can we count on him representing the town to Victory in a YOLO?

bronana wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:31 am

Lissa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 6:00 pm i protect my target's presence/quickness from negative effects that night

i started with enough glory to act, don't really think it is a good idea to claim other stats

This is a bizarrely specific role

is there any evidence at all that there are actions that would negative effect presence or quickness?

Not for me. Just cayvie and her smashing, but I doubt Lissa can protect from that terrible action.

I was hoping there were two wolves left. Is that crazy?

[mention]moth[/mention] Hey man, since you don't care, do you mind sharing your stats and Sol? Have you spent anything?

If Joseph is town, then yeeting him could lose us the game directly, in that we're that much closer to YOLO by yeeting any villager, plus losing our most valuable role.

If Joseph is wolf, then... well, first, bronana is likely town, I think. I think that scum-Joseph would want to bolster support rather than green-light his scum partner for us. At this point.

If Joseph is wolf, and we don't yeet him today, then we get another night where he's expected to give us info, and ideally moth, who I trust, will be able to send someone Joseph's info.

Of course, there is the multi-use blocker on the scum team. Maybe it's Joseph. Maybe it's motobot. They are in a triumvirate together. If a blocker has multi-use, then it's not as likely to be someone who has lost a tri-mate to a nightkill recently. Carotenoid was killed last night, but she was the last of her tri. Outed wolf was killed two nights ago, which cut Glory in half for bronana and Lissa. That looks good on them for the multi-block bullshit.

nutella and I lost Sloonei on Night 4, and like I said, my Glory went down to 0.9, and I haven't been able to get it back up due to blocking limiting my Sol accrual two nights in a row. And nutella's role certainly isn't a blocker role, as is well-established.

NANOOK's Glory should be just fine. Lost tutuu Night 1, which hurt, but lost dunya to a yeet, which cut his Hope, not his Glory. NANOOK is a possibility to be the multi-blocker.

moth and cayvie are also both enjoying uncut Glory, but moth's role is confirmed by dunya, and cayvie is probably fooling us all and will win, but hey, I'm just another fool.

If Glory cuts are as impactful and hard to recover from as I think, then the only players who could be multi-blockers are motobot, NANOOK, and Joseph.

If we can yeet the blocker, then we will have a much better chance at winning. What do you think?

cayvie wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 12:24 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 12:22 am Yeet Or Lose. Got it.

i'm calling it that, at least

I kind of love it.

Can we win together? Just please be honest.