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Ironic!MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 01, 2021 9:55 pm Framed another way: "like you can pretend you didn't lock it in if you want to sound better but everyone who read the game knows you weren't shifting to BK"
There, less abrasive connotation-wise.
Now this is me saving my self-confidence and self-esteem, otherwise known as an ego.
Things seemed to be going so well at the time of my death, great job @BoKnows ! How did you do it?
I am a doctor. I'm here to assess your condition, son, what can you tell me? Symptoms?
He doesn't have a pass to endgame, he gets another day to make more posts to work with.BoKnows wrote: ↑Sat Mar 20, 2021 11:39 amYeeting a low-poster is never a great idea, but at the same time we don't want to give a low poster a free pass to end game. When I read Rat's ISO nothing in there gave me the feeling of "Yeah this guy is town". But we also only have 14 posts to judge their alignment with... This is tough.Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Mar 20, 2021 11:34 amYou PEOPLE never let UP! GAWD!
I had started to respond that we don't need to do the low-poster yeet when there's slightly meatier interactions to hash out, then I looked at Ratrug's ISO and saw it wasn't quite as low as I had thought... still low, but there's gameplay there. I may have only skimmed half or so, but it didn't rocket Ratrug to the top of my ethereal yeet list. I think they will give us more content to work with, maybe, and that there are more compelling yeet targets on this day.
You PEOPLE never let UP! GAWD!
Alison's analyses are still quite compelling. I am willing to sheep her at this point. I may be allowing myself to get a little lazy at this exact point in the game on that front. I usually get more analytically involved in the game on days 3-4, or if I am in the accusation spotlight in either alignment, and when I get townread I feel like I have done my duty in a way. Not ideal, not that respectable, but it's how it is. Maybe I could save a villager life by diving in and shining a light on an interaction no one has noticed or something, and maybe if I do that I'll save a wolf life. I'll exert my will upon this game after another yeet if we don't hit a wolf today.
That's reasonable.
Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 8:02 pmNow you're talkin'! Lots of focus on whether or not I'm nitpicky, and little on whether or not I'm a wolf. That's scummy. [VOTE: falcon] aubergineSeanzie wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 7:57 pmI don't think it really matters if it is nitpicky or not. Are you thinking it is AI, or no?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 4:42 pmYou don't feel that scum reading a player over their word choice is nitpicky?
Day 1 doesn't count. What was my case on falcon anyway? I forget, but I guarantee it was completely flimsy.fingersplints wrote: ↑Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:10 amWell I just finished rereading all three of you who voted there, and I’m not sure it sits well with me.ts account wrote: ↑Thu Mar 18, 2021 7:55 amI copied Long Con's test answersfingersplints wrote: ↑Thu Mar 18, 2021 7:54 am I’m rereading some of the thread now, but focusing on the Falcon suspicion as the vote is tied there currently.
Does anyone care to reiterate the case there?
I find LC’s reasoning kinda weak and flimsy, but not too crazy for a day 1 vote. So I don’t think my problem sits with LC’s vote, but with having two others follow it for little reason. The suspicion can easily be deflected back to LC for “starting” the case, and then you have the whole Alison/seanzie drama. Idk just seems an easy situation for mafia to hide in.
Especially since earlier when I asked about LC’s current game style and got this:
But now we got two immediately following him after he says no one does.Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 8:39 am Definitely an accurate description. No one has ever voted a player off a case I have made. You will not find one instance of it. Most of the cases and suspicions Icome up with are wrong, so it's a good system. My only Mafia skills are in somehow spewing myself town, and in deep evil plots to win games. Also, excellent 3p player.
I hope your qualms about me become becalmed.Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Mar 18, 2021 12:45 am So I'mma throw out a scumread on Alison with a tinfoil that Alison/LC are teamed.
I don't have a lot of experience with Alison, but I saw her play a game as town where she very confidently put together a PoE of 4 people on D1 (there were 4 scum in the setup), and 3 out of the 4 were scum. She did this by quickly town-clearing many people, and then everyone that was left was scum. She bragged about having something like an 80% hit rate on her reads, and while I didn't really believe her at the time, the proof was there after the dust had settled and everyone's alignments were known.
Here, she is taking a very different approach, and one that I don't think at all is in the same style as how she approached that game. First, I don't see her trying to townclear people at all right now. Second, her whole scumhunt right now hinges on the idea that I am scum, which I know is false. She is making huge leaps from here (BK and I must be scum, therefore Ratrug is scum because BK wouldn't play this way if I was scum and Nook or Esooa were too, etc). If she is town, she might be lucking into a correct read on BK or Ratrug, but her reasoning is wrong, and thus in terms of actually catching scum for the right reasons, she is shooting 0% right now, while not townhunting at all. I'd guess with how good she actually is, this is scum-indicative.
The LC thing really is just tinfoil and I don't give this theory a lot of weight, so please take it for what it is worth. It is reaching, but it seems like if I am right about Alison, and Alison is acting this way, I have possibly been chosen as wolfbait, and so LC's somewhat controversial "calm my qualms" read might be indicative of a teammate of Alison helping to shade me. Esooa I suppose could also kind of fit this bill, but Esooa's suspicions on me felt reasonably genuine, whereas I cannot say the same for LC's.
Not really no reason - splints and I have a long past that spans a decade of Mafia. Just recently she has been on hiatus.Alison wrote: ↑Thu Mar 18, 2021 12:28 amQuestions the LC meta for no reason and and feels comfortable in the thread.Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Mar 18, 2021 12:24 amHow is Fingersplints townie here?Alison wrote: ↑Thu Mar 18, 2021 12:19 amBecause I believe the first two mafia are BK and Seanzie, and if BK and Seanzie are mafia then they entered the thread by loudly distancing. And if they entered the thread by loudly distancing it suggests that their third member is afk and probably someone neither of them know. You and ts account fit that bill; for instance I don't think BK and Seanzie would play this day the way they did if Esooa or Nanook was the third. fingersplints is a candidate but they're sufficiently townie that they aren't my highest suspect.
Now this relies on a few assumptions so I wasn't as confident that it had to be exactly you two. But luckily your beetlejuice has affirmed my suspicions on you, so I feel good that I'm on the right track.
So?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 8:20 pmCuz' it would mean he doesn't have an actual reason & is creating false narratives?
Now you're talkin'! Lots of focus on whether or not I'm nitpicky, and little on whether or not I'm a wolf. That's scummy. [VOTE: falcon] aubergineSeanzie wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 7:57 pmI don't think it really matters if it is nitpicky or not. Are you thinking it is AI, or no?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 4:42 pmYou don't feel that scum reading a player over their word choice is nitpicky?
Your face is immutable.c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 7:48 pmWhat about mine?Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 7:47 pmIsn't your face situational?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 7:31 pmIsn't every term situational?Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 6:17 pmI think that term is situational, and I don't believe I qualify.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 4:42 pmYou don't feel that scum reading a player over their word choice is nitpicky?
Isn't your face situational?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 7:31 pmIsn't every term situational?Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 6:17 pmI think that term is situational, and I don't believe I qualify.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 4:42 pmYou don't feel that scum reading a player over their word choice is nitpicky?
I think that term is situational, and I don't believe I qualify.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 4:42 pmYou don't feel that scum reading a player over their word choice is nitpicky?
Of course, I remember that game. I had mech info (or the next best thing) locking you wolf, and as I recall still no one really listen to the case despite me climbing the walls and shouting and crying about it.fingersplints wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 8:55 amI can definitely remember at least one instance of itLong Con wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 8:39 am Definitely an accurate description. No one has ever voted a player off a case I have made. You will not find one instance of it. Most of the cases and suspicions Icome up with are wrong, so it's a good system. My only Mafia skills are in somehow spewing myself town, and in deep evil plots to win games. Also, excellent 3p player.having been on the receiving end of your accurate suspicion. But as my memory is getting worse the older I get, and the forum it would have been on no longer exists, I don’t have a lot of specifics besides it might have been a rabbit game.
Anyways, nitpicking about your history is pointless, as my question was more to see how I felt about nanook following you, and the response given has satisfied me to the reasons.
Probably for the best.
That's really terrible. That movie was such trash (sorry fellow bees). Your friend is troubled. Shrek is good at least.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 1:25 am I had a classmate who had memorized the bee movie and could recite any part of it on command.
He was 20 in case you're wondering.
You might think that's a useless skill, but it's one of only two he had so it's better than having nothing.
?? Name one game.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 6:46 amYeah I think lc often has good reads that get totally overlooked due to his post volume and styleMartinGG99 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 4:38 ammind elaborating on what's the biggest reason you're sheeping here
Definitely an accurate description. No one has ever voted a player off a case I have made. You will not find one instance of it. Most of the cases and suspicions Icome up with are wrong, so it's a good system. My only Mafia skills are in somehow spewing myself town, and in deep evil plots to win games. Also, excellent 3p player.fingersplints wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 7:36 amCan anyone tell me if this is an accurate description of how current players respond to LC?NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 6:46 amYeah I think lc often has good reads that get totally overlooked due to his post volume and styleMartinGG99 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 4:38 ammind elaborating on what's the biggest reason you're sheeping here
He is the only player in this game that I am very familiar with, and one of the most well respected from my time, so I wouldn’t have thought that this was an accurate characterisation at all. But I’ve only played one game with him in about 5 years.
Nah, I couldn'ta told you how many posts he had. I'm just living in the moment.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 7:53 pmKinda hard to miss the count when the game was like 5 posts deep at the time.Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 7:41 pmYou count posts?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 6:42 pmOff 2 posts?Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 6:38 pmBee read SeanzieSeanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 6:32 pmWell I go buzz around to different flowers and stick my bee face as deep inside them as I possibly can to get to that sweet sweet nectar! then I go back to the nest and I spit that nectar into the mouth of another bee, and they spit it back into my mouth, and we keep doing this until it turns into honey! It is quite a sexy thing to watch, let me tell you!
But you knew that, so why the confusion?
You count posts?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 6:42 pmOff 2 posts?Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 6:38 pmBee read SeanzieSeanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 6:32 pmWell I go buzz around to different flowers and stick my bee face as deep inside them as I possibly can to get to that sweet sweet nectar! then I go back to the nest and I spit that nectar into the mouth of another bee, and they spit it back into my mouth, and we keep doing this until it turns into honey! It is quite a sexy thing to watch, let me tell you!
Bee read SeanzieSeanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 6:32 pmWell I go buzz around to different flowers and stick my bee face as deep inside them as I possibly can to get to that sweet sweet nectar! then I go back to the nest and I spit that nectar into the mouth of another bee, and they spit it back into my mouth, and we keep doing this until it turns into honey! It is quite a sexy thing to watch, let me tell you!
Buzz buzz, honeycombs. Also a bee here. 
I don't know this man!
