The Syndicate

Matt wrote:Laaaaaaaame

Unless Sorsha flips bad

Good luck Matt, you can pull this off still

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Matt wrote:MM - I think you knew exactly what I meant when I said Illy didn't vote for civs on Days 1 and 2, so I wonder what your game is. You're better then that as a civvie, or no?
I pointed out that looking at voting records based on what we know isn't going to be helpful.

I also think you slipped there. Why should I know exactly what you meant?

Speaking of slips, Long Con comes to mind. Sig accused him of a slip yesterday and then was nightkilled. Long Con was also mentioned in Edith's post. I think he's worth looking into.

Epignosis wrote:Despite Lady Edith's wishes, Matt is up next.

I'm going to make this simple. I've gone through Matt's posts and they are everything I expect of Matt being Matt. I also have a role in mind for him.

I don't plan on voting him today. Maybe another Day, but not this one.

Moving on.
Won't you consider voting for him today?

I see Epignosis already did some research on Long Con, I'll come back to that.

Scotty wrote:Yo.

I'm actually really perturbed by Lady Rose. Like, I have literally no idea what she is doing.

As far as we know, she has insanified Wilgy to speak in weird caps lock cipher, and just today, LC seems to be afflicted with the same stupid cipher.

Forgive my bluntness but if LC's insanity is legit, Lady Rose is inept. I mean come on:
She provides a bit of fun to the thread by insanifying a player each night with the insanity of her choice
It's her choice to use her powers, but so far, that would mean she has done 2 insanifies in 5 cycles, and both times have been the exact same stupid insanity.

This just seems too unlikely to be true.

I think LC is faking.
Didn't people say the same thing when DrWilgy was cursed?

Sorsha wrote:I'm not LCs teammate, I'm just lazy and not finding anything very suspicious to comment on when I am around.

BR suspecting LC is good enough for me, I did have some suspicion of him earlier in the game, plus there was the "slip" that sig pointed out also *votes LC*
Is there anyone you'd be willing to lynch besides Long Con?

Also, considering the Long Con is likely insanified, do you still want to lynch him?

Epignosis wrote:
Sorsha wrote:Well if you've made up your mind that I'm bad you aren't going to like anything I have to say about it, you call it an excuse but it's the truth. This is so far off from how I play when I'm bad but whatever, you think I'm bad but you aren't even voting for me?
The lady has one vote. She can't have more than one suspicion when there's three mafia?
I think ika was accused of the same thing in the Champs Scrimmage. :P

But alas, he was mafia.

I have a few players that I have ruled out as being bad, other than them I could vote for any of them.

The main selling point for me with LC is that slip that sig pointed out and now sig is dead.

Epignosis wrote:
Sorsha wrote:Well if you've made up your mind that I'm bad you aren't going to like anything I have to say about it, you call it an excuse but it's the truth. This is so far off from how I play when I'm bad but whatever, you think I'm bad but you aren't even voting for me?
The lady has one vote. She can't have more than one suspicion when there's three mafia?

She's welcome to have as many suspicions as her heart desires, but when choosing between two and one can't talk it seems strange to choose that one. But she has since changed to me so meh

Well if you've made up your mind that I'm bad you aren't going to like anything I have to say about it, you call it an excuse but it's the truth.

This is so far off from how I play when I'm bad but whatever, you think I'm bad but you aren't even voting for me?

I'm not LCs teammate, I'm just lazy and not finding anything very suspicious to comment on when I am around.

BR suspecting LC is good enough for me, I did have some suspicion of him earlier in the game, plus there was the "slip" that sig pointed out also

*votes LC*

Yeah. I'm voting Nero too. I could also vote ika, I'd like him to explain what "the point" actually was when he said "that's not the point"here I kinda want to vote LC too over the "slip" too. Not totally sure if it was one but seems like strange wording otherwise.

Well I'm here... The Mafia gods sent someone to pound on my front door so I wouldn't miss the vote.

Wilgy is bad?

Epignosis wrote:
Sorsha wrote:
sig wrote:Can someone weight in on Sorsha's scum meta? I recall her being less active as mafia in EST and another game I played with her I think? However, I can't remember how active she usually is.
I'm just busy and the other game I am in is in the final stage or two so it's taking most of my Mafia time atm

As for my Bubbles vote and lynch result there. I really don't care that she was a civ, she would not have been a help to us and would likely have been a mislynch later in the game anyway. So meh I'd do it again. If that makes me suspicious I don't care.

I don't really know who I'm even suspicious of this game, I'll devote more time here when the other game is over. Sorry.
But Bubbles was replaced.

After I voted. I was gone by then and not back in the thread until the lynch was over.

sig wrote:Can someone weight in on Sorsha's scum meta? I recall her being less active as mafia in EST and another game I played with her I think? However, I can't remember how active she usually is.

I'm just busy and the other game I am in is in the final stage or two so it's taking most of my Mafia time atm

As for my Bubbles vote and lynch result there. I really don't care that she was a civ, she would not have been a help to us and would likely have been a mislynch later in the game anyway. So meh

I'd do it again. If that makes me suspicious I don't care.

I don't really know who I'm even suspicious of this game, I'll devote more time here when the other game is over. Sorry.

Epignosis wrote:
Sorsha wrote:
Polo wrote:
Dom wrote:I just saw the host post.... wtf happened?
Tom Branson
The former Crawley chauffeur, Branson is now their son-in-law. Perched uneasily between upstairs and down, his placement in Downton is awkward for all involved.
Likes: Sybil; revolution
Dislikes: The monarchy
Tom goes against the grain and hopes for a revolution. He has one lynch switch.
Oh yeah... I misread the doctors role power earlier. I thought he was the switcher.
Or did you role check DrWilgy and slip?

Everyone knows DrWilgy is most definitely not a doctor.

Polo wrote:
Dom wrote:I just saw the host post.... wtf happened?
Tom Branson
The former Crawley chauffeur, Branson is now their son-in-law. Perched uneasily between upstairs and down, his placement in Downton is awkward for all involved.
Likes: Sybil; revolution
Dislikes: The monarchy
Tom goes against the grain and hopes for a revolution. He has one lynch switch.

Oh yeah... I misread the doctors role power earlier. I thought he was the switcher.

Someone's going to have a malpractice suit on their hands.

RIP DF

Epignosis wrote:
Sorsha wrote:You guys all posted a lot while I was sleeping.
Where was your gut when I wanted to lynch Long Con?

Probably sleeping then too.

You guys all posted a lot while I was sleeping.

I have no idea what the case on lorab is... I don't remember her having many votes this morning when I was around.

I dunno... This is just a gut thing but I'm voting for LC.

Polo wrote:Either Matt, Wilgy or Sorsha has been silenced last night.

I'm not. I've just been busy and reading just now I haven't been able to make heads or tails over anything going on in the thread. Two that I have been mostly agreeing with have been Scotty and llama. I could follow a daisy vote but I don't want to just yet. I'd like to read again later when I'm not so tired from work.

RIP Bubble-bea.

If I had known bea was going to replace in I would have given her a shot and not voted there. I'm kinda surprised that so many players followed my vote for bubbles... I know a couple of them (epi & llama) are players I know have voiced frustrations about no show/extremely low posters so I'm not really surprised at those two. I'll have to look at the other reasons though.

Long Con wrote:
Sorsha wrote:I don't think Matt or DF look bad enough to vote for. Not feeling anything too horrible about anyone else either so I'm voting for bubbles because this:

Bubbles wrote:im here! i voted dfaraday cause i'm following sig's lead
not because i have any affiliation with sig
but he's the last person to vote and there is no way i can catch up right now, at work
i hope i am not wrong
is what we can expect from her the entire game. Always a low poster and lurky.
Not that I disagree with you about Bubbles, but this strikes me as a little bit "low-hanging fruit".

I guess I'm just getting tired of this same crap all the time. Later on in the game it's important to have people who show up and contribute to conversations, I can't think of a time bubbles has ever done that. I don't care what kind of suspicion this draws to me either. Maybe we'll get lucky and she is bad. That's how she flipped in Arkham.

thellama73 wrote:
Sorsha wrote:I don't think Matt or DF look bad enough to vote for. Not feeling anything too horrible about anyone else either so I'm voting for bubbles because this:

Bubbles wrote:im here! i voted dfaraday cause i'm following sig's lead
not because i have any affiliation with sig
but he's the last person to vote and there is no way i can catch up right now, at work
i hope i am not wrong
is what we can expect from her the entire game. Always a low poster and lurky.
We could team up and vote for Daisy if you want.

Why daisy? She contributes....

I don't think Matt or DF look bad enough to vote for. Not feeling anything too horrible about anyone else either so I'm voting for bubbles because this:

Bubbles wrote:im here! i voted dfaraday cause i'm following sig's lead
not because i have any affiliation with sig
but he's the last person to vote and there is no way i can catch up right now, at work
i hope i am not wrong

is what we can expect from her the entire game. Always a low poster and lurky.

Epignosis wrote:I would like to know how serious Black Rock was about lynching Long Con Day 1, and how interested she is about doing so now, if at all.

I want to know this too. Where is black rock?

Epignosis wrote:
Sorsha wrote:
Epignosis wrote:I'm taking the advice of a party that is not a killer. That is a reasonable thing to do.
You're taking Edith's advice for not suspecting Black Rock but you have reasons other than Edith for suspecting Long Con?
Have you caught up yet?

Apparently.... not....?

Thanks Daisy, I hope he doesn't get demoralized here then

thellama73 wrote:
Sorsha wrote:
thellama73 wrote:I guess we can rule out Ika as being mafia, then, can't we?
Um... why?
Because I believe Ika to be incapable of separating his personal relationships from the game, and I do not believe he would consent to killing Silver night one, if he were part of the mafia team.

ika- Are you incapable of separating your personal relationships from the game?

I don't necessarily suspect ika myself but I'm not just writing it off, if ika is bad and Silver isn't why wouldn't he get rid of her asap before she catches on?

Epignosis wrote:I'm taking the advice of a party that is not a killer. That is a reasonable thing to do.

You're taking Edith's advice for not suspecting Black Rock but you have reasons other than Edith for suspecting Long Con?

thellama73 wrote:I guess we can rule out Ika as being mafia, then, can't we?

Um... why?

Sorry I missed the vote. I was sleeping, bad poll end time for me

Epignosis wrote:Who are you again?

Who am I.. where did I come from... why am I here....

ika wrote:
Sorsha wrote:
Silverwolf wrote:BTW-my vote on metalmarsh is because he's not doing anything productive at all and appears to be avoiding the thread.
He's one of the higher posters in the thread so far... How is that avoiding the thread?

How many games have you played with him before this one?
I think at the time when she said that he was posting elsewhere.

That is at least what i saw when she posted that

i mena i could pull timestamps if i wanted to be tryhard

No need to do that, but thanks.

Silverwolf wrote:
Sorsha wrote:
Silverwolf wrote:
DFaraday wrote:I'm not liking so many votes on Dom already. Especially since I don't think he's done anything shady.

As for Ika's comments re: Epi, I don't agree with it. And I think the practice of policy voting people for not playing a distinctly town game, regardless of whether that person is actually bad, is itself not a town strategy.
This post is scummy due to the fact that it's an instant defense of the leading wagon.
In your experience does scum usually defend against day one bandwagons?

sorry I'm posting one response at a time and not multi-quoting, I'm at work and don't know when I'm going to have to drop my phone and look like I'm actually working. I don't want to have a big post just sitting there waiting for me to get back to it.
Yes, as I explained in a previous post, I've seen it and done it myself as scum.

I came across that post eventually. I agree that the changeable votes are nice for making those kinds of pressure votes possible... Have you ever defended a day one bandwagon as a civ?

Scotty wrote:I think that It is too early to tell for Dom and DFaraday. I lean scum on Dom, but having 4 people outright vote him is either a bullseye by town or a huge mistake.

im curious about bwt. My gut tells me he could be bad (yes I see that you are voting him) but I need a reminder: was he bad in "A World Reborn"? He was NK'd n1 I remember, and he is acting differently this game I feel.

bwt was bad in A World Reborn but he was not killed night one. Timmer was killed night one and then later replaced bwt

DFaraday wrote:
birdwithteeth11 wrote:
birdwithteeth11 wrote:
DFaraday wrote:I'm not liking so many votes on Dom already. Especially since I don't think he's done anything shady.

As for Ika's comments re: Epi, I don't agree with it. And I think the practice of policy voting people for not playing a distinctly town game, regardless of whether that person is actually bad, is itself not a town strategy.
I agree with this. If Dom is doing something that someone feels is suspicious and pointed it out, then I must have missed it. I'll look back later and see if I can find it though.
Somehow I went to post before I finished my thought. Need more coffee still...

That being said, if Dom is indeed bad, then this looks like someone trying to offer a subtle defense of a teammate without providing any legitimate backing to it.

I think I know where I'm putting a placeholder vote for now.
So you agree with me, but you're voting me anyway. Okay.

This^

@bwt

thellama73 wrote:I'm thinking about either voting for the rotting corpse of Wilgy or for DFaraday.

DFaraday wrote:I'm not liking so many votes on Dom already. Especially since I don't think he's done anything shady.

As for Ika's comments re: Epi, I don't agree with it. And I think the practice of policy voting people for not playing a distinctly town game, regardless of whether that person is actually bad, is itself not a town strategy.
This post seems like filler to me, and Wilgy so far has been gazonks with his whiffle posting, which is making me think he might be ignatz trillo.

Am I doing a good job of keeping up with the new slang?

How is DFs post filler when he is giving opinions on actual game events? What is your definition of filler? I usually think of filler as non-game related comments or commenting but not giving an opinion.

Silverwolf wrote:
DFaraday wrote:I'm not liking so many votes on Dom already. Especially since I don't think he's done anything shady.

As for Ika's comments re: Epi, I don't agree with it. And I think the practice of policy voting people for not playing a distinctly town game, regardless of whether that person is actually bad, is itself not a town strategy.
This post is scummy due to the fact that it's an instant defense of the leading wagon.

In your experience does scum usually defend against day one bandwagons?

sorry I'm posting one response at a time and not multi-quoting, I'm at work and don't know when I'm going to have to drop my phone and look like I'm actually working. I don't want to have a big post just sitting there waiting for me to get back to it.

Silverwolf wrote:BTW-my vote on metalmarsh is because he's not doing anything productive at all and appears to be avoiding the thread.

He's one of the higher posters in the thread so far... How is that avoiding the thread?

How many games have you played with him before this one?

Silverwolf wrote:Also ika, explain your Space Daisy read? She's pretty null to me right now.

And why is Sorsha town? I don't even remember Sorsha.

I'm just catching up and saw this.

ika wrote:
Sorsha wrote:
ika wrote:
Sorsha wrote: Oh no.... did you say p-p-p-policy l-lynch? *shudders at the not so long ago memory* *backs away from ika*
would you like to share?
MacDougall declared Matt his policy lynch at one time in a game here a few months back and it didn't go over well. Mac was from another forum where I guess that kind of thing was more "the norm," we (Syndicaters and players from the Syndicates predecessors RM, LP and TP) hadn't been exposed to that tactic before then. I'm in now way trying to discourage you from it. I just saw the words "policy lynch" and remember the shit storm that ensued before.
Could you link me that? Im more then ahppy to take the heat

He actually did it in two games simultaneously

DUNE: http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 73#p189673
And A World Reborn: http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 70#p189670

Those are where Mac makes his declarations. I'm not sure how much further it was until it started getting intense but you can read for yourself. Mac was never lynched for it, just had to put up with people not liking his stance on the matter.

ika wrote:
Sorsha wrote: Oh no.... did you say p-p-p-policy l-lynch? *shudders at the not so long ago memory* *backs away from ika*
would you like to share?

MacDougall declared Matt his policy lynch at one time in a game here a few months back and it didn't go over well. Mac was from another forum where I guess that kind of thing was more "the norm," we (Syndicaters and players from the Syndicates predecessors RM, LP and TP) hadn't been exposed to that tactic before then. I'm in now way trying to discourage you from it. I just saw the words "policy lynch" and remember the shit storm that ensued before.

ika wrote:
Silverwolf wrote:
ika wrote:Silver, do you have any reads?
No, not yet.
ok. i know you have always said your a slow start so i can accpet it for now............. but by mid day i would hope you have some otherwise im gonan be going at you

Silverwolf wrote:I will say if Epi acts anti-town regardless of alignment, he's always gonna be null to me and I'd lynch just to make sure so I hope that changes.
^that pretty much, doesn't matter how much he has played or how long. To me, when someone nerfs themselves to improve scum games by downplaying town games, they are not playing proper. if anything one should try to make their scum game more like their town game if it is better and vice versa.

from what i hear and see epi has a better town game when he tries, so he should improve his scum game to mirror that and not jsut "dumb down" his town game

to me it its not even goign to generate a read its just going to be policy lynch material

Oh no.... did you say p-p-p-policy l-lynch? *shudders at the not so long ago memory* *backs away from ika*

ika wrote:
Sorsha wrote: What methods do you use for baddie hunting? There must be a big play style difference between here and the other site(s) you play at if you don't give reads on players.
I must of missed this, i saw silver answer so i will answer myself.

i do give reads, i just dont give them out right away. depeding on the type of game will depend on what i do. most time i will try to towhunt and POE the rest out. other times i jsut like zoning in on people and see if they break.

this game im going to try to role hunt everyone :P

Alright, I gotcha.

ika wrote:
Dom wrote:
ika wrote:
Silverwolf wrote:
ika wrote:i have 2 town reads and 2 scum reads.......
Who already?
im not willing to reveal it yet but one of them should be obvious
Fixed this for you.

So... why so coy?

Why should i give my reads for anyone to copy? moreso do you ahve any reads?

What methods do you use for baddie hunting? There must be a big play style difference between here and the other site(s) you play at if you don't give reads on players.

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