I am out of context and don't know what the problem here is.Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:17 pm I mean, look at this contradiction. Zero people have commented on this:Does no one else see why I feel bad about this?Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:14 pmHmmmmm?Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:08 pm"pretty sure this particular lie was just a standard mafia ploy" again that's false. I said I was pretty sure he was lying cus factually speaking there were no consistencies between this game and sc2. The reasoning was still unknown.Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:01 pmBut you acknowledged in this same breath that you were pretty sure this particular lie was just a standard mafia ploy. If this is your interpretation, why was it so important to refute it first?Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:38 pmthis implies that i should ever ignore lies being told about me and assume the liar must have good intentions. i disagree with that on principle based on the fact that this is mafia? lies and innaccurate statements should always be called out.This was the turn in the conversation that I really didn't like, and still do not. If this is what Kyle assumed, then why did he launch so quickly into defense mode? why was it his objective to negate and dismiss a prod which he presumed to be disingenuous, rather than simply observing that it was disingenuous? This might be my least favorite post in the thread.
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- Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:20 pm
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- Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:16 pm
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I don't want to lynch you today, no. I disagree with Epignosis's posts leading up to the linked one, especially the part where he says that you talking will help expose your teammates more. This is true of any player, but I would gander it's less true of you than most players. Not that you wouldn't talk about your teammates, but that it'd be harder to for anyone to read those connections.
That, and if you're mafia, Epignosis must certainly acknowledge that you'd have a decent shot at talking your way out of a lynch later.
I'm much more interested in lynching him.
- Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:06 pm
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Yes, because I was lynched early in each of my last two games and you contributed to both of them.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:01 pmHe's a Mad Marmot.Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:56 pmI'll change my vote as I damn well please.Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:52 pm Marmot, you're still voting for Dyslexicon. As far as I can tell, this is still because she's not posted enough cat gifs. As heinous as that is, I don't think it constitutes a solid reason to case a vote this late in the day phase. who are you going to change to?
I'm frustrated because I made a post earlier today. In that post, I said it's ridiculous that a player should get a Day 1 pass because they are a "shitty lynch" even if they'd be worth lynching any other day or as any other player. And now I'm getting votes because I am the opposite of a shitty lynch.
Do you think I should be lynched?
- Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:01 pm
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There was no basis for his change of opinion, so yes I can.Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:58 pmI don't like this post. I can excuse Marmot not being aware of Mac copying speedchuck's rainbow, but I don't like the way he dismisses the possibility of Mac having a change of opinion.Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:47 pmThat's ridiculous. Your original rainbow list had me in the green section. How am I suddenly your primary lynch target because you decided I'm not contributing enough (after I actually started contributing) and because someone else had a town read of DrWilgy?MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:37 pmI decided I'd rather see two people who aren't contributing well enough for me to analyse (my group 3) lynched and you two are the best choice the group because you've made the most posts. Then someone else said they had a town read on Wilgy so we're frog marching you off the roof unless you can show some reason why we shouldn't ...
Tell us your reads. Do something. Sure, come at the person who decided to start a wagon on you that's fine. Anything is good if you're a civ and don't want to be lynched.
There was no mention of me between the two lists.
- Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:00 pm
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MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:52 pmMy thought is you have done it in a way so as to only be choosing to comment on things that have little chance of exposing you. Keeping up appearances.Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:51 pmOf course I pick and choose what I comment on. I can't respond to every single post.MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:45 pmMarmot = Waffly. Posting inconsistently. Low contribution but seems to be around a bit. Seems to be picking and choosing what to comment on but never making waves. POE.
Epi is someone elses cross to bear.
I've not had time to read the whole thread. Nor likely will I. Probably the same reason I missed you posting speedchuck's rainbow as your own.
- Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:56 pm
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I'll change my vote as I damn well please.Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:52 pm Marmot, you're still voting for Dyslexicon. As far as I can tell, this is still because she's not posted enough cat gifs. As heinous as that is, I don't think it constitutes a solid reason to case a vote this late in the day phase. who are you going to change to?
I'm frustrated because I made a post earlier today. In that post, I said it's ridiculous that a player should get a Day 1 pass because they are a "shitty lynch" even if they'd be worth lynching any other day or as any other player. And now I'm getting votes because I am the opposite of a shitty lynch.
- Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:51 pm
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Of course I pick and choose what I comment on. I can't respond to every single post.MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:45 pmMarmot = Waffly. Posting inconsistently. Low contribution but seems to be around a bit. Seems to be picking and choosing what to comment on but never making waves. POE.
Epi is someone elses cross to bear.
- Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:47 pm
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That's ridiculous. Your original rainbow list had me in the green section. How am I suddenly your primary lynch target because you decided I'm not contributing enough (after I actually started contributing) and because someone else had a town read of DrWilgy?MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:37 pmI decided I'd rather see two people who aren't contributing well enough for me to analyse (my group 3) lynched and you two are the best choice the group because you've made the most posts. Then someone else said they had a town read on Wilgy so we're frog marching you off the roof unless you can show some reason why we shouldn't ...
Tell us your reads. Do something. Sure, come at the person who decided to start a wagon on you that's fine. Anything is good if you're a civ and don't want to be lynched.
- Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:32 pm
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Whose idea was it to create the false dilemma of lynching myself or DrWilgy because we are "cruising making jokes" when that is not what is happening.
I'm looking at you MacDougall.
I'm looking at you MacDougall.
- Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:08 pm
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Jay is a player who is difficult to read that sort of interactions from. Other players are more than likely easier to read.Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 4:11 pmA good foreman will tell the difference between a guy who spills the nails and a guy who doesn't care about the roof.
Only one person can be lynched at a time. When you have a quiet person (or a non-poster) who is mafia, lynching that person comes down to what almost amounts to luck, especially early on. If 3J is bad, leaving him alive Day 1 is a wise strategic move because Jay is a guaranteed talker, one who (more than anybody I know) will eventually comment on everybody.
To beat our analogical horse further, if 3J wants to destroy the roof, he's the guy who feels compelled to talk about the roof, and to talk about it with his co-conspirators.
- Thu Jan 18, 2018 3:58 pm
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But this is a different, bigger picture I'm talking about.Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 3:42 pmNobody gets an automatic pass. Passes have to be earned.Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 3:31 pmSo?Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 3:21 pmBecause you're a shitty Day 1 lynch.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 3:19 pm
The most pressing question emerging from this then would be: Epignosis, why won't you be voting for me today?
I disagree that any player should get an automatic pass on Day 1, just because they're a shitty lynch.
If you're building a roof (presumably for someone to fiddle on), and you've hired sixteen men to build it, but you are informed that three of those men are intent on destroying the roof, whom do you fire first?
Is it somebody whom you see working very hard on the construction, or someone who looks like he doesn't care about the roof?
If you fire the first guy first, and he wasn't planning to destroy the roof, then you've lost a good worker on the basis of the least evidence. If you fire the second guy, then you've lost someone who...looks like he doesn't care about the roof.
This isn't a job where you need to earn an income and keep a solid reputation for your roofing company.
This isn't a one-time situation where we need to make the best decision possible for the sake of the company. Each "roof" we are building is independent of each other "roof"
If Player X is a bad mafia player who puts his foot in his mouth and looks bad every game, will we lynch him Day 1 every game? No.
If you think Jay is worth lynching, why wait to lynch him? Why would you bring it up as a decent notion (for not Day 1) if Jay is "working very hard on the construction" and not "planning on destroying the roof"?
- Thu Jan 18, 2018 3:31 pm
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So?Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 3:21 pmBecause you're a shitty Day 1 lynch.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 3:19 pm
The most pressing question emerging from this then would be: Epignosis, why won't you be voting for me today?
I disagree that any player should get an automatic pass on Day 1, just because they're a shitty lynch.
- Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:48 pm
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But I will comment that you seem incredibly flustered right now, which I can see in your sudden fling of suspicion at me.
Dubious. Dizzying. Daring? Daunting.
Dubious. Dizzying. Daring? Daunting.
- Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:44 pm
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I am capable of ISOing Dizzy to see if she has posted any cats. That's a priority to me.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:41 pmSuspicious now that you told me you haven't read many of my posts. The recent thread consists of Epi and I engaged in hand-to-hand combat. You didn't ignore it if you got as far as seeing Dizzy's posts and no cats.
So yes I absolutely ignored it.
- Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:39 pm
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Unfortunately, that won't help him in his read of you in this moment.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:37 pmIf you really believe the highlighted portion, then you need to play more games with me.speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:32 pmYou're usually a lot cooler and more consistent than you're being this game, so the best comparison I can throw to would be the games above. Especially Phenon. I can't know if you're throwing crap at teammates right now, unless Epig is scum with you. Then we'd also include the game where Sloonei said you bussed him D1 as a point of comparison.
There's probably more to your play than that, but I'm not rereading your games. That would take forever. I'm also not suspecting you for the same reasons as Epi.
- Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:33 pm
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I don't know, I haven't read many of your posts yet.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:30 pmSure the former, no way the latter.Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:28 pmSupatown!JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:24 pmWhat was I like in Phenon and Mountain Mafia?speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:22 pm I remember mafia Epi in Night Vale. He was very background, didn't do much. Definitely nothing like this.
What am I like in this game, Marmot?
What am I like in this game J^3?
- Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:28 pm
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Supatown!JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:24 pmWhat was I like in Phenon and Mountain Mafia?speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:22 pm I remember mafia Epi in Night Vale. He was very background, didn't do much. Definitely nothing like this.
- Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:08 pm
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Speaking of dizzying, I'm voting dizzy until I see a cat pic from her.
- Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:01 pm
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DizzyingJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:00 pmThis is Daisy's only relevant post. It's "interesting".Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:41 pmThis is interesting. I need to think on this because traditionally I've always viewed civs with BTSC as one of the strongest things the civs can have...speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:24 pm If I may make an observation, regarding the setup:
Tevye can get BTSC with his daughters. In doing so, he can confirm them town to himself. So that's neat.
However, if he doesn't search for them, the town gains a cop in the match-maker. Match-maker can search for BTSC, which would (if Tevye doesn't submit actions) only be held by the mafia.
We trade off a BTSC-finder and a town searcher/btsc/lover thing for a cop. Does anyone think this is a good idea?
It's not thrilling that her only thing is mechanical/role babble.
- Thu Jan 18, 2018 2:19 am
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And because I was lynched before I could swing my weight.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 2:05 amI was able to take over as town leader because of the low activity.
- Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:49 am
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- Wed Jan 17, 2018 7:38 pm
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^Dubious
- Wed Jan 17, 2018 7:34 pm
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I read DrWilgy's role. :3JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 2:01 pm Do people actually read all the roles before games even start?