I would GTH all of them scum except for nijuu.Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Mar 03, 2018 1:26 pmWhat are your thoughts on these 4 people?Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Mar 03, 2018 1:22 pm I'll comment that these folks haven't posted yet today, and we've < 6 hours left.
@DrWilgy
@insertnamehere
@nijuukyugou
@sig
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- Sat Mar 03, 2018 1:31 pm
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- Sat Mar 03, 2018 1:30 pm
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sig, your last few posts are talking about what could be happening in the other thread as opposed to what's going on here in the one you can post. What's your current read on Sloonei?sig wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2018 11:50 pmI'm not floundering? I'm just not playing super seriously yet, taking a more laid back approach. I also have very little to say atm, don't have many strong reads. ectnijuukyugou wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2018 6:35 pm Fuck it. sig's all over the place. I'm re-reading interactions between him and Sloonei, and he's floundering like crazy. He might be weird, but not usually floundery. I want to have more time to look at the Lorab comparison before I make an uninformed vote in her direction. Pulling the trigger and vote sig. (Did I do that right? Friggin' tags.)
Someone mentioned me flipflopping on Sloonie or something, I think I explained that reasoning very well.
nijuukyugou wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2018 6:26 pm Mmmmk so my thought process is this from reading so far:
Sloonei takes suspicion for coming out Sloonei (guns a'blazin', that is) and for flip-flopping a lot. This thought crossed my mind as big fat WIFOM, but I'm thinking he's good and doing the civ thing right now. We don't have enough being said to not play around with words and cast suspicion in places for reaction gauges, so this appears more civ than bad. And it stands out.
sig is being weird and avoiding a lot of simple questions. Is there something else I'm missing? Or are people latching on to whatever weirdness they can get? I totally understand if so, but if that's all it is, I'm not inclined that way, either.
Lorab is, according to Jack, apparently acting like she does when she's bad? How so?
Ugh. Votes and decisions. It's amazing I'm able to play this game at all.
I don't recall ignoring any questions?
Also since Speed was lynched and revealed does that mean he's died twice? Since I seem to recall it saying you don't flip on your first lynch.
- Sat Mar 03, 2018 1:25 pm
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insertnamehere, your Sloonei mix was beautifully crafted, but you've offered nothing since Day 2 except to call attention to your musical work. How do you feel about Sloonei now?insertnamehere wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2018 7:28 pm First off, I'd like to direct as many people as possible to what could be my magnum opus in terms of mafia posting, where I took a post explaining my complicated stance on Sloonei, (warily reading as town, but definitely not taking my eyes off of him) ran it through an insanifier, and sang the results into my phone. I then spent twenty minutes in Garageband making whatever the hell this is:
SLOONEI {INH REMIX}
- Sat Mar 03, 2018 1:23 pm
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- Sat Mar 03, 2018 1:22 pm
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I'll comment that these folks haven't posted yet today, and we've < 6 hours left.
[mention]DrWilgy[/mention]
[mention]insertnamehere[/mention]
[mention]nijuukyugou[/mention]
[mention]sig[/mention]
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This is the Game of Champions folks! Let's get it together. Pretend that someone shit in your cornflakes or something.
[mention]DrWilgy[/mention]
[mention]insertnamehere[/mention]
[mention]nijuukyugou[/mention]
[mention]sig[/mention]
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- Sat Mar 03, 2018 1:03 pm
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[mention]insertnamehere[/mention] where you at? I haven't seen a post from you yet today, and you even wrote a song yesterday.
- Sat Mar 03, 2018 12:59 pm
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Boomslang, who're you voting for today?
Why do you require a read on yourself from nijuu?
Why do you require a read on yourself from nijuu?
- Sat Mar 03, 2018 12:49 pm
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Actually, that means he and nijuukyugou are equally in that boat. But Scotty is the one talking about it.
- Sat Mar 03, 2018 12:44 pm
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[VOTE:
Scotty] aubergine
If what you muse about is correct Scotty, that means you have a higher likelihood of being anti-town than any other player in this thread.
If what you muse about is correct Scotty, that means you have a higher likelihood of being anti-town than any other player in this thread.
- Sat Mar 03, 2018 12:41 pm
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I disagree, if civilians can become mafia, then I would imagine there are at least two mafia teams, almost like a recruitment game of sorts.Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 03, 2018 12:06 pm Game balance thought:
Golden has said the tribes are randomly split- whether or not that incorporates mafia randomly splitting or not is to be seen. If so, and they’re all over here, then garshnoodawump.
But a bigger dilemma lies in the 2nd role payout. The rules state that if a mafia member dies in the 1st role, then they retain their win condition. But this isn’t necessarily the reverse...which means it should be no surprise that a dead civ in the first role can then become mafia. This brings up a lot of questions balance-wise that I’m sure golden has accounted for:
-would this influx be accounted for in the beginning?
-Does it even iself out towards end game?
-Would the 2nd role iteration be a separate mafia faction?
If there are, say, 4 mafia split between 23 people with 2-3 indies thrown in for extra measure, that seems like a pretty good 2nd Role split.
So where do the 1st role alignments stand? Are there perhaps 3 mafia at the beginning with the potential for a guaranteed mafia member to be recruited via their second life? And what if there were just as many civs as indies in 1st role? So like 7-8 LMS roles where if you die it’s like ‘oh well, I tried, now I’m a fucking stump.’
I don’t foresee 2 different mafia teams, but weirder things have happened. So far we haven’t even seen alignments and won’t for some time unless we (nijuu and I) are lynched.
So I’m broadening my horizons here with this 2 life mechanic. I think there are less mafia now to make up for an addition of 1-2 more along the way. There’s no real way of knowing from one role to the other aside from good ole fashioned vote analysis and tonal discrepancies.
I don’t see is having a serial killer type role yet, seeing as 2 night’s Gabe gone by with only one kill apiece. I’m not sure a SK would have kept it in their pants this long (maybe I’m wrong). This is NOT to say that an SK won’t be assumed in the 2nd Role phase..this might also be a balancing mechanism to outweigh a burgeoning mafia team of, say, 5.
It’s going to be quite unfulfilling to have to wait through all these roles being killed without alignment shown.
But that's a big IF.
I imagine more that the alignment of your second role is dependent on what the actual role is. From a game balance perspective, it makes sense that any mafia member who dies will return as mafia, so maybe a civilian ==> indy, or vice versa is possible.
- Sat Mar 03, 2018 12:31 pm
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- Fri Mar 02, 2018 7:27 pm
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- Fri Mar 02, 2018 7:26 pm
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These are not the full townie efforts you are looking for.
- Fri Mar 02, 2018 5:45 pm
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- Fri Mar 02, 2018 5:25 pm
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[VOTE:
JackofHearts] aubergine
Let's see that full townie effort.
Let's see that full townie effort.
- Fri Mar 02, 2018 5:21 pm
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I speculate that the mafia killed Scotty.
- Fri Mar 02, 2018 1:20 pm
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What is your need for urgency?Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Mar 02, 2018 1:18 pm (In an addendum to what I was saying earlier, Sloonei) I might be enveloped in getting a lynch in because of this sense of urgency. I’m like Mario without his mushroom and don’t feel inclined to waste away days.
It would also explain stagnation from everyone else. I get it. I do.
- Fri Mar 02, 2018 1:19 pm
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Independent who has to reach a certain post quota by Day 6.
Also, as we discussed before, paprika is important to keep around.
![Srsnod :srsnod:](./images/smilies/Srsnod.gif)
- Fri Mar 02, 2018 1:17 pm
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Sloonei, do you like karaoke?
- Fri Mar 02, 2018 1:14 pm
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Have you met me?
tries to motivate himself to play mafia, but this place smells like old shrimp
- Fri Mar 02, 2018 3:44 am
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just please be gentle :[
- Fri Mar 02, 2018 3:41 am
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I want to hear more from him. He put a lot of effort into posting while cursed, mainly in an insanified song.
Lol, Scotty said the same thing I did.Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:50 pmYeah I think looking his way may not be a bad idea. I will admit I might be tunneling on LoRab a bit. It’s what I do. Choo choo.
On one hand, INH went above and beyond making the best of his insanity but that definitely could have been a guise. I would definitely like to hear more from him.
I mean shit, id love to hear from everyone. You ever feel like you’re in an echo chamber, Sloonei.
- Thu Mar 01, 2018 9:56 pm
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RIP Scotty, you were the blurst of us.
Were you a member of the mafia before? Are you now?
Were you a member of the mafia before? Are you now?
- Thu Mar 01, 2018 9:54 pm
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I wonder who targeted inh on Night 1.
- Thu Mar 01, 2018 12:51 am
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![Ponder :ponder:](./images/smilies/ponderous.gif)
So not only did you get the times mixed up, but you're like 6 hours late too.
![Nice nod :nicenod:](./images/smilies/nicenod.gif)
- Wed Feb 28, 2018 11:57 pm
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- Wed Feb 28, 2018 8:39 pm
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I heart you too Scotty.Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2018 7:51 pm Hell, if we keep it up spreadin the vote, we may never lynch anyone until the merge.
May not be a bad idea...I would like to at least make the merge with you fine people![]()
RE: ninja’s thought that we may not be all bad-
Highly doubt it, that would be a rough structure and highly unfair I feel. Golden knows what he’s doing with the structure.
ninja dying N1 gives me no hope in that regard- the only other option is a vigi but honestly that was a bad choice for a vigi shot if so.
Nah, there’s at least an SK or what have you.
![There there... :hug:](./images/smilies/hug2.gif)
Are you a member of the mafia?
- Wed Feb 28, 2018 8:38 pm
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- Wed Feb 28, 2018 8:33 pm
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You're a mindfuck.nijuukyugou wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2018 6:41 pm Hmm. If baddies are split randomly, that means their thread support is split randomly, too. That must be...interesting.
This game is a mindfuck. (Sorry, I've said "fuck" like fourteen times today already. I'll stop.)
![beer :beer:](./images/smilies/beer.gif)
- Wed Feb 28, 2018 8:26 pm
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Currently, I think you're abstracting my vote for you into something bigger. I voted for you as a joke. That's it. I also don't understand what you mean by "I had a chance to vote for you". You're really reaching on this one.Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2018 6:31 pmYou had a chance to vote for me but did not. What is your read of me?
- Wed Feb 28, 2018 6:28 pm
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Why would this lead you to believe that I think you're civilian.
This and that are not the same thing.
Linki: Oops, got distracted by work. Meant to post this a while ago.
- Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:52 pm
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Sloonei dodo someone who is brains
playing clothes-man hard to read as a leader among men
he has a mister rearranger right within my mind
self-destructive instant he goes to battle school
evil instant grave insight self-awareness about this
means that dragon wagon just as aggressive with his post
being a civilian scumeister sloonei's feeling rare to discount suspicion of his fellow
paint the strategy that he be using regardless of btsc
thomas me a competency that we might be doornail with conceivable string lace
i'm not convinced he's bad so absorb his crisp needs
but i'd like to fork my pleasure to zap his fierce style
dump me in dark buddy you can be my crutch because he wants meta
- Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:43 pm
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Hey Jack, in light of nijuu being nightkilled, what do you think of her now?
- Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:40 pm
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[VOTE:
DrWilgy] aubergine
Why is Jackofhearts good?
Why is Jackofhearts good?
- Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:38 pm
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For the lulz.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:37 pmFact remains only you and I are voting for him.Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:32 pmJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:30 pmOne is the shade. One is the follow.Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:29 pmYou quoted two of my posts but I don't see the connection between them.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:27 pmCause you’re the only one following me and the only one throwing shade on me. It’s funny.![]()
My vote for Sloonei had nothing to do with you.
Why are you voting Sloonei?
- Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:38 pm
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- Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:36 pm
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Wow, my keyboard sucks right now.
- Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:36 pm
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You had a 142 posts in two days before subbing out of LotR. You have 115 here thus far. Granted, that game overall double the post count of this gam at this juncture.
- Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:32 pm
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Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:30 pmOne is the shade. One is the follow.Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:29 pmYou quoted two of my posts but I don't see the connection between them.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:27 pmCause you’re the only one following me and the only one throwing shade on me. It’s funny.
![Confused :confused:](./images/smilies/confused0007.gif)
My vote for Sloonei had nothing to do with you.
- Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:32 pm
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That's a good point.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:28 pm At this rate, the other tribe will lynch and we won’t.
Do we think Blooper was the only nk? We learned of the other thread’s lynch. If there was a nk there, shouldn’t we have been notified?
If there's one mafia team split between two threads, I guess it wouldn't be that surprising?
- Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:29 pm
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You quoted two of my posts but I don't see the connection between them.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:27 pmCause you’re the only one following me and the only one throwing shade on me. It’s funny.
- Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:28 pm
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- Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:16 pm
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Why you laugh at me Jackjack?
- Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:16 pm
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I've had dehydrated crickets before, I found them quite tasty, especially seasoned with paprika.Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2018 11:37 pmI am no longer sick, but I started my job as a cricket seller today. I have tomorrow off so I should have time to do some dank isos before twilight.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2018 3:11 pmKyle is sick. Let it be for now. Did I tell him he wasn’t shiney in MK? Could be important for this game. Letting this be cause he’s sick.
- Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:14 pm
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![clap :clap:](./images/smilies/smiley32.gif)
I refuse to lynch this man.
- Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:12 pm
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- Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:10 pm
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- Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:09 pm
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EBWOP: from your above non-suspicion
- Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:09 pm
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What do you mean by "mislynching sig or Wilgy"? Do you townread them?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2018 3:07 pm aubergine
vote Sloonei
I don’t think INH is blendy. I’ve played maybe 3 games with Lorab and have no real feel for their meta cause they’re usually pretty quiet and/or die early. I don’t feel like mislynching Sig or Wilgy again. I’ll let the Sig suspicion ride. I see no reason to vote Blooper or Boomslang, both of whom I believe are town.
@sig
Why do you townread Sloonei?
Same question in this post wert me.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2018 3:11 pm Since I’ve talked about mostly everyone...
Marmot is null and likely catchable if bad and mislynched sometimes if good. Let it be for now.
Kyle is sick. Let it be for now. Did I tell him he wasn’t shiney in MK? Could be important for this game. Letting this be cause he’s sick.
@Spacedaisy
Come out and say things. I don’t have a read on you yet.
Scotty feels like town Scotty. Idk if I’ve seen bad Scotty though so this may be a worthless statement. I’ll still put him green on the board.
I like Sloonei's point. He might be "flailing", but why lynch the only guy who's trying to make the thread move?
How did you go from your above suspicion of sig to this?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2018 3:50 pm Sloonei: Vote for Boomslang
Sloonei: Sig, how do you feel about the slang?
Sig: The slang???
Fakey.
- Wed Feb 28, 2018 12:57 pm
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