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Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 23, 2021 12:34 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Mar 23, 2021 12:27 am I'm on a roadtrip atm, so will sheep someone else's vote, just tell me where to go.
Vote Jack.

[VOTE: jack] aubergine

Thanks

N2 - watch Chop - nothing
N3 - cop KZA
N4 - watch Alison - Epi visit
N5 - cop TSP - multiple

In case anyone was wondering, I'm visiting my cute marmot brethren in the mountains

I'm on a roadtrip atm, so will sheep someone else's vote, just tell me where to go.

So either TSP is Doc Johnson or a liar, because I got a multiple check on him.

Sorry, not gonna be around much today, but that's all I've got to add if he's claiming Redding.

Crickets

@Kylemii

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 8:51 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 8:44 pmI think LC only needs me dead, not Alison. And even then, if I'm the only Hubo, he actually doesn't.
if i have to kill you to win in the game, i will lose in my heart

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 8:14 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 7:54 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 7:51 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 7:39 pm Shouldn't we yeet me over Alison anyway? More people need me dead than need Alison dead tbh.

I mean, I know I'm def town and she's not, but that aside...
who needs you specifically gone? unless i missed a claim, it should just be me and LC and even then that only applies if you're not the only one remaining

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 7:36 pm I trust you kyle
i trust you too aside from the whole asking to have me killed thing

Well, BoS and Redding both have met their alternate win cons with Alison alive, so they don't need her dead. I think you're the only one, or anyone in Arroyo really.
and LC

I think LC only needs me dead, not Alison. And even then, if I'm the only Hubo, he actually doesn't.

[VOTE: Grogu] aubergine

I get that it's suboptimal to yeet a townie to fulfill other townie win cons while mafia are still unresolved, but so is yeeting Alison imo.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 7:51 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 7:39 pm Shouldn't we yeet me over Alison anyway? More people need me dead than need Alison dead tbh.

I mean, I know I'm def town and she's not, but that aside...
who needs you specifically gone? unless i missed a claim, it should just be me and LC and even then that only applies if you're not the only one remaining

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 7:36 pm I trust you kyle
i trust you too aside from the whole asking to have me killed thing

Well, BoS and Redding both have met their alternate win cons with Alison alive, so they don't need her dead. I think you're the only one, or anyone in Arroyo really.

Shouldn't we yeet me over Alison anyway? More people need me dead than need Alison dead tbh.

I mean, I know I'm def town and she's not, but that aside...

K, I guess that makes sense. I think we all just thought that you were the masonizer and Epi was the Chosen One.

Epi wasn't the Chosen One?

I wasn't paying attention?

(I say another because Omega did this earlier)

Is this another perspective slip on which alignment is your opponent?

[VOTE: Kyle] aubergine

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 7:10 pm well, if the slaver stays alive, then i have to find a way to make sure both grogu and marmot get yeeted instead of just hoping one of them gets yote randomly, so that could be an incentive.

Wait hold on, why myself or Grogu?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 7:11 pm for those with sympathies towards marmot or grogu i mean

This mindset is understandable.

sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 6:15 pm the marmot/grogu/sprityo thing is easy. Joshua shoots his counterclaim and we go from there

What do I have to do with this?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 5:43 pm Can't believe we had a massclaim and nobody claimed gay.

We killed esooa a long time ago

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 5:43 pm Can't believe we had a massclaim and nobody claimed gay.

We killed esooa a long time ago

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 5:14 pm is someone keeping track of all this

you want to take a crack at it?

Urist wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 5:07 pm I'm starting to think that none of the claimed power roles are actually VTs

What gave you the impression they were VTs?

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 5:00 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 12:54 pmjk i'm NCR
why is this not a paragraph

I'm fairly sure others missed it as well cuz someone else mentioned "more than 2 BoS" at some point and the only other BoS that I could think of was you or something.

Now I'm really confused about that earlier but I don't really care much about it since it doesn't really change anything.

Yeah, I thought it was a joke because it came right after the Hubo joke claim.

I put the dash in the wrong spot, but you get my point.

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 4:37 pm Marmot probably town because its unlikely to be in vague CC-territory with another enclave member imo.

Unless they're being stupid or trying to WIFOM about it.

vague-cc territory?

Is there incentive for town to not alignment claim at this point?

I'm gonna wait for Grogu and TSP to confirm their alignments.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 3:37 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 3:24 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 3:19 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 1:59 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 1:56 pm Marmot, my guess is there’s a standstill going on here. I, and I’m guessing Sprityo similarly, don’t want you to make up any potential role cop results once other people claim. You have two results, out the one of the person higher in the claim order, let them verify you, and then the other one can be used to verify someone else’s claim

Unless you checked LC or someone who already claimed in which case this is all bunk I guess

Do you think I would make something up?
...yes??

Well, I can point you to the point where I was leading the charge in trying to get ChopChop yeeted Day 1, among other things, as evidence that I am not Enclave. Does that make you feel better?
I’m aware of this. I have you in mid poe. I suspect, given that everyone above you is basically cleared, (though I might tinfoil Martin later idk), that the wolves likely lie below you. But I can’t just assume you’re who you say you are in the absence of supporting info.

Right back at ya bud.

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 3:31 pm Joshua
Additionally, you're a 2-shot limited tracker. Twice during the game during any separate night phases you may select a player. You will be told who that player targeted if anyone. This cannot detect fatal actions.

AHS-9
Separately, you're a 2-shot limited watcher. Twice during the game during any separate night phases, you may select a player. You will be told who targeted that player that night if anyone. This cannot detect fatal actions.

These are the only things Grogu could be.

He had mech info on D2, so it couldn't have been an invention supporting him.

I know Grogu can't be the latter.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 3:19 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 1:59 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 1:56 pm Marmot, my guess is there’s a standstill going on here. I, and I’m guessing Sprityo similarly, don’t want you to make up any potential role cop results once other people claim. You have two results, out the one of the person higher in the claim order, let them verify you, and then the other one can be used to verify someone else’s claim

Unless you checked LC or someone who already claimed in which case this is all bunk I guess

Do you think I would make something up?
...yes??

Well, I can point you to the point where I was leading the charge in trying to get ChopChop yeeted Day 1, among other things, as evidence that I am not Enclave. Does that make you feel better?

sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 3:13 pm grogu buddy i've been pretty transparent today on who i could be, just give it some thought and all your questions are answered. However I wont tell you any other night actions for the time being

You have?

It would be comically even if there were 5 each of Wastelander/Enclave, then 2 of everything else (except of course Slaver and JJJ).

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 2:28 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 2:26 pm Also, if LC is being truthful and there's no other Wastelander, and there are 2 of every other town faction, that leaves 3 Enclave left by my math. That said, I don't think we should rely on the fact that there's 2 of every town faction. It would make sense from a balancing perspective, but, there's also reason to believe that it's been somewhat randomized.
I don't think I've ever said that there's always two towns per town faction. Just that's the norm it seems.

I have a small suspicion that Seanzie is indeed 100% the only redding to ever exist, and I have a suspicion as to which faction would hold 3 players with my own reasoning. But I don't wish to give help to scum in choosing their claims if they're planning to be part of a 3-player faction.

Oh, I wasn't talking to you specifically, I was just thinking out loud.

Also, if LC is being truthful and there's no other Wastelander, and there are 2 of every other town faction, that leaves 3 Enclave left by my math. That said, I don't think we should rely on the fact that there's 2 of every town faction. It would make sense from a balancing perspective, but, there's also reason to believe that it's been somewhat randomized.

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 2:21 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 2:16 pm
MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 2:14 pm We could just claim alignments before even outing results probably.

If the issue is with limited role checks.

I learn what type of role people have [eg: protective, disruptive, investigative, deceptive, fatal], so alignment claim might help a little, but not much.
Well it helps somewhat, potentially.

If they claim NCR, and you got a "Multiple" check, then they can't possibly NCR anyways given the dead NCR.

If you push them into claiming alignment before revealing check, they have to claim a viable alignment for themselves. Or what they think is a viable alignment claim.

That's fair, let's start with alignments then. Do you know who hasn't claimed alignment yet?

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 2:14 pm We could just claim alignments before even outing results probably.

If the issue is with limited role checks.

I learn what type of role people have [eg: protective, disruptive, investigative, deceptive, fatal], so alignment claim might help a little, but not much.

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 2:07 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 1:35 pm Do you not know my role Martin?
No I don't.

If you softed it then I probably missed it as I haven't been looking for softs recently for anyone.

I'm AHS-9

2x imited role-cop (which is why I'm waiting to here other claims) and 2x watcher.

@sprityo I did not cop you last night, I will say that much.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 1:56 pm Marmot, my guess is there’s a standstill going on here. I, and I’m guessing Sprityo similarly, don’t want you to make up any potential role cop results once other people claim. You have two results, out the one of the person higher in the claim order, let them verify you, and then the other one can be used to verify someone else’s claim

Unless you checked LC or someone who already claimed in which case this is all bunk I guess

Do you think I would make something up?

I've shared as much as I intend to at this time.

sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 1:49 pm im just trying to verify something is all

Trying to verify what? I get if you don't want to say, but you haven't really been here at all, I don't have much reason to trust your motivation.

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To clarify, I'm not stating who I copped yet.

I'm not stating who I copped, because then said person could claim a role that would match what I saw.

That said, I can claim info on the other half of my role. I watched ChopChop on Night 2. No one visited him. I watched Alison on Night 4. Epignosis visited her.

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