The Syndicate

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 7:17 pm I'm ashamed of you town.

Urist wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 6:03 pmObv fake sry

Urist wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 6:02 pm Nanook never lets dayvig shoot within an hour of deadline so

BoKnows wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 6:01 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 6:00 pm Go get em town. Hopefully hollowkat's a hit

Was that a day shot?

Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:57 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:56 pm Dead serious, I'm shooting one of you two before day ends, I need a name

your reads being this bad and your unwillingness to cooperate with me trying to lynch mafia caused your death

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:49 pm Esooa like lock town

Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:47 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:46 pm Someone please make a case for me other then "I want to vote for him".

Y'all are better than that.

you're not hk

Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:47 pm Yeah honestly Marmot could help narrow it well

Urist wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:44 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:39 pm hk, urist, samu and I can agree on a wagon to put over hk

I have few preferences

give your names

Marmot or bk
Preferably marmot

Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:37 pm idk how it isn't blatantly obvious wolves don't give a single fuck about the hk wagon

Samusamu wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:35 pm Well the lc wagon is still in offer.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:16 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:53 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:45 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:39 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:35 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:30 pm Pretty sure Hollowkatt/Esooa is a thing, and Hollowkatt just slipped. They probably planned to flip to me in wolf chat, and Hollowkatt forgot what order it went in.

Where's the slip? I missed it

I mentioned that HK and Esooa both jumped on my wagon even though neither have mentioned me at all all day, and Marmot mentioned that HK looked like he could have been trying to get a wagon going on me, and HK said he jumped on the wagon after Esooa and you, but Esooa didn't join the wagon until LAST. Why would HK think Esooa was on there before him?

this is extremely weak and if out of 15 pages of posts your EoD contribution is pushing two people because one person made a single contradicting statement in going to lynch you without a second thought

You've been secret-voting all day long, and then jump on my wagon even though I wasn't in your scumreads and you haven't said anything about me all day, and you're complaining about my EoD contribution?

Your vote was opportunistic at best, and my wagon going from one vote to 4 votes almost immediately, then HK slipping up right afterwards looks super suspicious. Besides, if you were paying attention, there were plenty of other things that have pinged me about HK. He's had a few towny moments, but also so weird things, like when he "wanted" to scumread DoO. No townie "wants" to scumread someone, they either scumread them or they don't. Why would you "want" to?

I was crystal clear I wanted to wolf read DoO for the AtE and being pissy. I hate that kind of thing and wolf read it on sight. Baring that I think she's been ok..

Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:56 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:54 pm

Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:52 pm If Marmot CFD’s Sean over Falcon.

BK prob Town and Falcon/Marmot/Urist team seem likely.

[VOTE: hollowkat] aubergine

I feel far more confident that he's scum than sean at this point.

IDK, IMO Hollow was the most Townie at the beginning of the day.

Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:52 pm If Marmot CFD’s Sean over Falcon.

BK prob Town and Falcon/Marmot/Urist team seem likely.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:30 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:26 pm

Spoiler: show

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 10:55 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 10:42 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 10:31 pm why not take votes seriously though?

I mean, votes should always be considered for their meaning. I think the word "serious" isn't quite right. Samu's vote didn't look at all like it was meant to contribute to a TK of Falcon, and rarely are early D1 votes meant in that way. Instead they are more used to generate content and reactions. Samu naked voted Falcon, and then when pressed, asked Falcon what he thinks of that. That vote looks "non-serious" to be in the sense that I don't really think Samu was thinking about TKing Falcon there. If Samu is town, it was a reaction test, and if he is scum, I don't think he would cast a vote meant to stay there this early in D1.

Doing reaction tests like that IMO is >rand town, and Falcon taking the vote seriously enough to OMGUS Samu I think is >rand scum.

basically there's a difference between "I intend to kill you with this vote" and "I wonder what happens if I vote you here". There's also "this vote is literally for laughs" but that category is generally really obvs.

Can see how ppl are getting to wolfy falcon off of that.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 12:16 am ok thanks. I can see how he gets to "one of falcon, seanzie, samusamu is a wolf". Seems like that's a fairly reasonable stance to take. Not thrilled with his "don't want to hit wrong" take tho, it's still early.
His second post you quote is meh to me. Can grok why you don't like it.
Third post is a throw-away in my book.

I guess I get what concerns you, so thanks, I appreciate it.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 1:23 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 11:23 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 11:15 pm

Urist wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 11:09 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 10:16 pm

Is this directed at anyone in particular or do you just kinda think everyone who isn't you is shite?

I can't speak for DoO, but I assume it's the latter.
I do think that's more of a townie mindset for her though. I don't disagree with the points you're making about her *in general*, but I don't think they apply to DoO.

tbh I want to wolf read her for it. mostly b/c I've done what she's doing as wolf, and I've had it done to me. It's kinda effective b/c as long as you're not crossing the line from "annoyed and responding with snark and sarcasm" into "actually insulting people" it gets people who sus you to back off.

Outside of her interactions with me/Gavial what's your take on DoO? I know my read on her is currently clouded by my recent interactions.

You "want" to wolf read her? Are you wolf reading her, or no?

I wolf read AtE

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 1:38 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 10:15 am Seanzie & Gavial are top scum for me.


[VOTE: VOTE SEANZIE] aubergine

spicy
why are they top scum?

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:49 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:40 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 1:38 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 10:15 am Seanzie & Gavial are top scum for me.


[VOTE: VOTE SEANZIE] aubergine

spicy
why are they top scum?

Both of their reactions to Samu & I

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:43 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:38 pm

Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:10 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 10:15 am Seanzie & Gavial are top scum for me.


[VOTE: VOTE SEANZIE] aubergine

Care to elaborate?

I found his approach to Samu's & I the most opphrtunistic

I'm taking sean out of my townreads. I was just reading through those posts again and I agree with this.

He didn't have a lot of conviction and I think it's because he was looking for an easy way to back out of the read.

soooo lets just murder seanz then
[VOTE: seanzie] aubergine

For anyone interested, here is HK's progression on sean up to his vote for sean

@hollowkatt what do you find scummy about sean?

Why aren't you voting sean?

Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:27 pm He thoughts VT didn’t have flavour but it doesz

Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:26 pm I didn’t wanna say this earlier because it’s anti-town but at this point I’m not doing any better so I’ll come out.

Falcon Softed PR/Mafia

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:25 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:23 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:20 pm I'm kind of second guessing my Falcon read right now. He is unabashedly not caught up. I feel like if he was scum here with an (albiet small) wagon, he'd either make a point to be caught up or offer some sort of excuse for why he isn't caught up. Instead, he has given out-dated reads, and only when pressed did he admit he hasn't read the whole thread.

On the other hand, people like Esooa and HK have been vote jumping, seemingly testing the waters with their votes, trying to find what will stick. Coincidence that they both have somehow landed on me without any progression? I don't think either one has said a word about me all day.

I searched HK's ISO and you're right, he didn't mention a read of you until after his vote (and his vote looks like he's trying to start a wagon on you)

you mean I joined Esooa and Falcon on Seanzie right? Disingenuous much?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:20 pm I'm kind of second guessing my Falcon read right now. He is unabashedly not caught up. I feel like if he was scum here with an (albiet small) wagon, he'd either make a point to be caught up or offer some sort of excuse for why he isn't caught up. Instead, he has given out-dated reads, and only when pressed did he admit he hasn't read the whole thread.

On the other hand, people like Esooa and HK have been vote jumping, seemingly testing the waters with their votes, trying to find what will stick. Coincidence that they both have somehow landed on me without any progression? I don't think either one has said a word about me all day.

Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:14 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 10:58 am atm I scum read falcon/bk the most

bk just doesn't have great energy and I agree with Dooms point on him

falcon I usually have no struggle reading but this game I'm very bleh on him.

I haven't looked at these two much and I will probably ISO them before EoD but yeah.

if I had to add a third, probably marmot because he is doing nothing but it's more so nai

don't have a lot of scum reads atm which is why I was just voting and didn't really care

cause I was just following other people's votes to see what happens

@Marmot
Like this is only 2 pages down Bro.
I’d expect better from you, you were genuine now you just seem lazy and uncaring.
Your Null to me now

Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:12 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:07 pm

Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:04 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:23 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:16 pm I will proceed by not voting myself because this game sucks

Top scumread if you please?

If you read their posts you would find out.
Now 2 people who don’t answer questions are DOOM and Alison so you should give them some.

This was a question for esooa. She did not answer the question.

Where in her iso does it say, "This person is my top scumread."?


What question did Alison not answer?

She also isn’t here yet and she stated her SR’s in her Readslist.
I don’t remember them but I remember that Me,Samu and Hollow are her top Town.

At this point I forgot but it’s like right after they accused me I asked them.

BoKnows wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:04 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:02 pm

BoKnows wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:00 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 1:59 pm Just gonna post some townreads for now while I'm catching up. I don't have any confident scumreads yet.

Strong town reads:

BK - This is nothing like his recent scum games.
Samu - his testing of falcon looked fine, it got the game rolling. He moved on from it too. He's interacting with people. I like his presence

Light town reads

Gavial - Taking up a lot of threadspace, but as-so-far, I find him less manipulative than I recall in Fallout. This is not a comprehensive read
Urist - Soul read
Seanzie - I'd like to see him enter the fray more, but his content, observations, and questions are similar to what I'd expect from him.
Omega - Similar to sean, I'd like to see her dig in more. That aside, she has more energy than she did as scum in Fallout Mafia, but her lack of energy there might not have been based solely on rolling mafia. Just a slight town lean here
TSP - Soul read


All other players I don't have reads on yet, so they are in a sense my poe.

Part of me thinks this is TMI spew

Why is this TMI?

Seems like a silly reason to strong town read somebody.

BoKnows wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:00 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 1:59 pm Just gonna post some townreads for now while I'm catching up. I don't have any confident scumreads yet.

Strong town reads:

BK - This is nothing like his recent scum games.
Samu - his testing of falcon looked fine, it got the game rolling. He moved on from it too. He's interacting with people. I like his presence

Light town reads

Gavial - Taking up a lot of threadspace, but as-so-far, I find him less manipulative than I recall in Fallout. This is not a comprehensive read
Urist - Soul read
Seanzie - I'd like to see him enter the fray more, but his content, observations, and questions are similar to what I'd expect from him.
Omega - Similar to sean, I'd like to see her dig in more. That aside, she has more energy than she did as scum in Fallout Mafia, but her lack of energy there might not have been based solely on rolling mafia. Just a slight town lean here
TSP - Soul read


All other players I don't have reads on yet, so they are in a sense my poe.

Part of me thinks this is TMI spew

BoKnows wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:59 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:57 pm 3 pages in 40 seconds is like falcon speed of reading

the posts are backwards

BoKnows wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:53 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 1:03 pm

BoKnows wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:24 pm

Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:22 pm

BoKnows wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:20 pm

Samusamu wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 11:58 am @BoKnows if u are town i need to now before eod where u gonna put your vote.

give me a few. hungover

Before you do, I want you to think about your read on Falcon and then share it with the class.

last I've seen falcon is in his scum range

saying someone is in their scumrange isn't exactly a read. Do you think he is scum, or no?

Going to check his ISO and get back to you

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:28 pm we could just chop alison

No

BoKnows wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:54 pm I just read the thread from pg. 13 to now. I'm retracting my statement on Alison

BoKnows wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:31 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:30 pm I'm around if people want to chat. We only have 2.5 hours left in the day, so it'd be nice to congregate the votes a little bit.

reads please. Thoughts on Gavial and Falcon.

Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:04 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:23 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:16 pm I will proceed by not voting myself because this game sucks

Top scumread if you please?

If you read their posts you would find out.
Now 2 people who don’t answer questions are DOOM and Alison so you should give them some.

Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:01 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:59 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:55 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:52 pm To anyone who townreads Alison, why do you townread Alison?

because I'm gay

Oh I see, you townread Alison

I TR Gavial.
Do you TR Marmot?