The Syndicate

I can't effect the night kill directly just cus of how real life time works. speedchuck couldn't text quin tonight and be like hey guess what you didn't die after all, go ahead and post a bunch in the past during day 3 except not after that cus you're dead already

but if my targeting causes people to get unblocked or unprotected they can die or undie or i guess... hypothetically re-die?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 24, 2018 3:56 am Is there any reason you couldn't target a vanished player?

if there's any game where that would be allowed it would probably be this one?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 24, 2018 3:58 amTarget the suspected killer and then someone doc Quin?

or target the suspected yersterday killer and have that player also be targeted with a block today so the past kill would be blocked in the future and the past death would unhappen though that would take crazy luck

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 24, 2018 3:54 am I don't see much you can do with it right now to cause positive things. Maybe you can try to target the person who killed last night and attempt to make their kill occur tonight instead to see if you can ... I don't know bring back Quin for the previous day phase and ... he can I have no idea?

i've already been told that wouldn't work, directly targeting a killer does nothing.

Golden wrote: ↑Sun Jun 24, 2018 3:51 am
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Jun 24, 2018 3:48 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 24, 2018 3:40 am So the role doesn't also undo the original action ergo if he doctored someone on night one you undoctor them thus potentially altering the timelines?
yes, exactly. it undoes the original action and redoes it a phase later. cut and paste.
What about macs point. How can it, for example, undo what I’ve seen?

it wouldn't, and i'm too sleepy to theorize the philosophy behind why it would be in a real time travel narrative, but basically this is a mafia game and basically it would be dumb as hell if speedchuck had to be like "hey btw some stuff randomly unhappened in the past plz pretend like you don't remember it"

Golden wrote: ↑Sun Jun 24, 2018 3:42 am So it’s a duplicate?

Does it work only on roles or item uses too? If it works on item uses as well as roles you could use it on me to enable me to watch myself again. People could make claims that I might be able to test.

it says "actions" so don't see why that wouldn't work

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 24, 2018 3:40 am So the role doesn't also undo the original action ergo if he doctored someone on night one you undoctor them thus potentially altering the timelines?

yes, exactly. it undoes the original action and redoes it a phase later. cut and paste.

yeah it was scotty

scotty I think? in hopes of doctoring whoever his night 1 target was again

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 24, 2018 3:03 am Why did you inherit that role? What is your original role?

town backup. the whole mechanical purpose of my role was to replace nutella's role if/when she died.

without knowing other players roles it's kind of a shot in the dark what happens

i can pull people's last night actions into tonight, and make them happen now instead of then

yeah or i guess everyone can just go to bed in the middle of my thing, that's fine too

useful with a little coordination i mean

and i want to talk about it cus it might be useful

i inherited nutella's role when she died and it is cool but kind of difficult to use in a positive way.

alright so hey

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 24, 2018 2:40 amPreaching to the choir

i never understand this expression, is the idea that the choir already came to church practice so they're already familiar with the sermon, or is it that the choir is typically located behind the priest and so by preaching to them, the priest is facing away from the church audience and kinda looking like a doofus and also the choir is singing rn so they can't hear what you're saying anyways like hey what's the deal?

[mention]speedchuck[/mention] can you confirm this

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 24, 2018 2:33 amI feel like we have lynched at least one scum and probably two. So yeah I am cautiously optimistic.

with an emphasis on caution.

every new poll im surprised at how few names there are, if we've failed to lynch any mafia at all yet we could be at lylo soon

Golden wrote: ↑Sun Jun 24, 2018 2:33 amI’d love to get Nutella back if we could. I wonder if the vanished get to use their powers since they’re technically alive

hahaha that would actually be cool as hell

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 24, 2018 2:28 am
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Jun 24, 2018 2:23 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 24, 2018 2:20 amLinki: It is entirely viable that Turnip Head is a scum that decided to gambit really early partially for the lulz and partially because it's a good idea and has just seen his team disintegrate around him to the point where he has just about given up.
that seems kind of optimistic, don't you think?
Sure it does but what other logic is there to him being scum and subsequently lynching him? Aren't you the one building up the rationale to push his lynch? Why the objection? Do you believe he is indie and think we should lynch the potentially dangerous indie or are you speculating that he is mafia?

no, i mean it seems optimistic to assume the mafia is "disintegrating". do you feel like we're doing well?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 24, 2018 2:20 amLinki: It is entirely viable that Turnip Head is a scum that decided to gambit really early partially for the lulz and partially because it's a good idea and has just seen his team disintegrate around him to the point where he has just about given up.

that seems kind of optimistic, don't you think?

[mention]Turnip Head[/mention] who did you predict

maybe that's paranoid idk

if we don't prove turnip head's win condition tonight i think he needs to be lynched. I'm concerned with the lack of effort im seeing from him to achieve his wincon. he didn't coordinate his night 3 prediction with me at all and i don't even know if he sent one at all. he didn't coordinate night 1's target with me either (though to be fair that one was kind of obvious?) and only coordinated night 2 with me after being prompted

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Jun 24, 2018 2:03 am GUYS no one needs to be replaced. Maybe take a step back from the thread and then look at the big picture:

-With no reveals, we’re all floundering
-except mafia, who have the utmost advantage with BTSC and knowledge of at least a couple powers at disposal
-none of us know the inner workings of this game to know if what we’re doing is successful or worth a shit. Perhaps that simple fact could hinder the front of putting forth regular “effort”.

I get what Epi and Mac are saying if they’re saying it from this context because the Cubs need to be a strong group.
I voted for lapluie last round because I found her on similar footing with sig. I couldn’t pull the trigger on him and still have no idea one way or the other. It’s like playing paint by number but the package only came with shit brown paint. And now it’s starting to smell like its color too.

But until someone starts disclosing some more info, all you got is that there are 3 doctors, 2 people that had masonry in D0 where one is an indie, and that’s it for the current folk.

What is sprityo? Should we go into claim mode yet to really lay it out?

Who is lapluie? We have no idea. What is a lapluie.

okay other than that big scotty metaphor paragraph that makes no sense at all, I completely agree with all of this. please relax, this is a silly game for children.

and..... wow. I pretty much just skimmed all of that, if anything positive or useful happened during those 4 pages of weird vibes LMK.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Jun 23, 2018 10:56 pm I'd probably vote Kylemii too, but he's a distant fourth.

do you have a reason or is it just the traditional "i don't have a reason at all but i kinda suspect kyle" thing

sprityo wrote: ↑Sat Jun 23, 2018 9:52 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Jun 23, 2018 9:29 pm actually let's lynch turnip head
Just saw this and.... huh????

What happened to all the gusto of defending him all game?

first of all, "defending" is inaccurate.

i've been advocating attempting to remove him from the game though his win condition in order to prove or disprove his alignment claim.

i got nervous about the lynch, and my lizard brain said "hey there's a chance that sig is mafia, but there's also a chance that he's really civ and has the ghost power that he's talking about." and "turnip head is also possibly mafia but in the best case scenario he is an independent" "either one can be proven with time, but the risk in lynching turnip head is relatively low since he's not a civ"

those were the thoughts that went through my head while i sold a guy 4 goldfish, and that's why i changed my vote.

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Jun 23, 2018 9:38 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Jun 23, 2018 9:29 pm actually let's lynch turnip head
Why are you of this view?

this lynch feels rocky and turnip head is the only player I know for sure isn't a civ

actually let's lynch turnip head

lapluie wrote: ↑Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:39 pm
Lunalee wrote: ↑Sat Jun 16, 2018 1:57 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:41 am
Zephyrus wrote: ↑Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:24 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Jun 16, 2018 7:40 am
Spoiler: show
Zephyrus wrote: ↑Sat Jun 16, 2018 7:04 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Jun 15, 2018 4:48 pm
What do you base your D1 votes on?
Well, I normally do an initial lynch on people to get them talking, and then I'll vote for the person who seems scummiest or whose lynch will yield the most information.
Choutas wrote: ↑Fri Jun 15, 2018 5:51 pm
Why don't you suspect him? Wasn't that a weird ass post? I posted the same thing as scum last game and everybody called my bullshit.
He's suss as sin.
I've explained that I was busy with exams. All I did was make a post hyping up the thread and showing that I'm alive. It's hardly suss as sin.
And, if you're talking about me voting lapluie, read above.
lapluie wrote: ↑Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:37 pm Wow could you at least @ me if ur gonna lynch me zyph thx
Sorry.
I normally do an initial lynch on people to get them talking
I lol’d. Good one, even though I’m sure this isn’t a joke.

Do you feel like your lynch of lapluie is getting him talking? Right now it appears that you ordered Haricots Verts with the expectation of cake and when the green beans show up you just nod and continue patiently waiting on your cake.
I just thought I'd give them a little more time. Chill.
@lapluie, who do you think is scummy? Answer quick, because I'm getting into loads of trouble.
I’m chilling, I have a fan blowing on my feet

Also what does it mean to vote for someone on D1 that will yield the most information? That’s a catch-all reasoning, because lynching anyone yields the most information. We have no information.

I don’t believe that you actually care about what lapluie has to say. By your own admission, you have no suspects.

Might want to at least look at some more people, ZMan (can I call you ZMan?)
I'm going to [VOTE: Scotty] aubergine, just because he seems too eager to back Zephyrus into a corner over his Lapluie vote.
This was lunas last recent post, I don't really like it, didn't contribute to much other than facts about why Scotty is digging at zeph, was it that much of an obvious case for her that one is convinced Scotty is bad? Idunno I have a bad feeling

and this one..... kinda..... and..... that's it actually. okay maybe lapluiearnestness is less pervasive than I thought actually

lapluie wrote: ↑Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:19 am
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:30 am @lapluie Can you give me your opinion on the following people:

TurnipHead
Kylemii
ColinisCool
Choutas
Lunalee
insertnamehere

Is there anything that you've seen that stands out to you?
Reading their post histories starting with turnip & downwards
~I feel like his posts aren't game related just a bunch of jibberjabber about random topics that have no contributions to the game whatsoever, pretty monotonous read. (If I'm wrong pls correct me sorry if I've offended you turnip).
~has put in thought & opinions, good read from kyle to be honest, he seems genuine. Have no bad feeling about him.
~he's fun to play mafia with when he's drunk & sober, mostly drunk. good guy... sometimes... still vague to read it's either good or bad. His posts give me the same opinion like last game, idk if it's a good or bad thing help.
~churro boi!! He's too quiet, pls post more & give more thought, I think he's capable of doing more but he seems reserved, his posts indicate some WiFi trouble & request a replacement so idunno, neutral!!
~good stuff, but some reason I feel like she's hiding something or is too worried to say but overall , neutral
~that long as heck weird font essay convinced me he's town..
that is all ... thanks

i liked this post by lapluie

sprityo wrote: ↑Sat Jun 23, 2018 9:09 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Jun 23, 2018 9:04 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Sat Jun 23, 2018 3:41 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Jun 23, 2018 2:53 pm just read through her iso, lapluie's posts don't ping me much at all. her tone seems genuine and i trust hee
kyle, to be blunt about this. there's nothing to be pinged about. there's genuine posts....about nothing. it's like looking at a blank piece of paper and saying "this doesnt look bad, and i like the color. so it's a good work of art."

im bad at metaphors but that's how im interpreting the above
I disagree. there's a lot of fluff sure, but there's quite a few reads and the reads she gives seem sincere to me
prove to me then please

her iso link is on page one, go check it out for yourself? I'm off my break in 8 minutes

I'm...... [VOTE: voting for sig.] aubergine

there's too many inconsistencies. it doesn't make sense that lunalee fake claimed to try to stop herself getting lynched. she did that way too late for it to affect anything in that way, all of his posts after his return have been for the angle of "hey don't lynch me, please keep me around, i can be useful because of my role" and i just don't trust it.

sprityo wrote: ↑Sat Jun 23, 2018 3:41 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Jun 23, 2018 2:53 pm just read through her iso, lapluie's posts don't ping me much at all. her tone seems genuine and i trust hee
kyle, to be blunt about this. there's nothing to be pinged about. there's genuine posts....about nothing. it's like looking at a blank piece of paper and saying "this doesnt look bad, and i like the color. so it's a good work of art."

im bad at metaphors but that's how im interpreting the above

I disagree. there's a lot of fluff sure, but there's quite a few reads and the reads she gives seem sincere to me

sprityo wrote: ↑Sat Jun 23, 2018 3:35 pmTake that as you will, if anything im similar but kyle should probably step it up with me and get some reads out there, even though he does ask information gathering questions. I list Kyle as null-leaning scum. Since he could easily go both ways, and im assuming the worst.

idk where people are getting this whole "Kyle hasn't given reads" thing from but I've given plenty of reads this game? I've been making an effort to say what I feel when I feel it in these recent games, just cus I don't write my feelings and thoughts out in multi paragraph essays doesnt mean they're not there.

forgot i actually have a lunch break today so I'll be able to vote later anyways. if you're bad please be real obvious about it so we can lynch you later today, thanks.

[mention]sprityo[/mention] since you're here plz tell me what the case is against you so I can feel informed enough to vote in the next 10 minutes

sprityo wrote: ↑Sat Jun 23, 2018 3:08 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Jun 23, 2018 3:07 pm inh is not on the poll
have..... have you not been paying attention????

he's on the player list on the front page i assumed he was still alive/not vanished

but then when I look at the players on the poll right now aside from maybe Scotty and turnip head I have at least one reason to view each player who doesn't have a vote as possibly town.

inh is not on the poll

sigs' whole deal is weird as hell, idk

the worst look for him is definitely lunalee's parting cop read.

I should have done this game first, this shit's much more complicated.

sprityo doesn't have his iso link on the front page yet R.I.P.

just read through her iso, lapluie's posts don't ping me much at all. her tone seems genuine and i trust hee

speedchuck doesn't put the poll end time on the polls cus time is just an illusion

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:33 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:26 pm i didn't present myself falsely. i asked him if he was claiming so i could make sure his indie-dom was brought into public canon.

what about my early behavior towards TH seems false to you? me pushing him to give reads? if you're locked in a btsc with someone claiming indie what are you gonna do, not try to feel them out?
It's not that it seems false, it's that it IS false, given what you know about Turnip. But the way you phrase that question does make sense to me so I sorta see where you're coming from ... I think.

i guess i see where you're coming from. it was technically false from the angle that i was asking a question i already knew the answer to, but the purpose of the question wasn't to say "wow i didn't know that" it was to make sure that other people *did* know it.

also technically speaking didn't know for sure my btsc partner was turnip head until that moment cus we were allowed to use whatever names we wanted

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Fri Jun 22, 2018 8:58 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Jun 22, 2018 8:52 pm @ColinIsCool what would have been the purpose in revealing mine and turnip head's masonship? he provided an easily verifiable claim, i didn't need anyone else's help to test it and if he was lying and killed me before I could speak the relevant information I could just leak the information through the ghost myspace information super highway. plus if he was mafia and hoping to use me to gain some kind of credit or something, revealing anything he'd said in the thread would only give incentive to kill me, and devoid of anything else, indie reveals always attract the kinds of people who hear indie and panic even though the game is about lynching mafia, who probably half the time are actually just mafia trying to use Indies as a distraction.

plus it would have been kinda rude.
I don't know. Your whole situation with TH is just strange, though, I think we can agree on that, and your behavior toward TH early on was clearly false. I don't know why you would go out of your way to present yourself falsely when you can just not comment on it at all.

i didn't present myself falsely. i asked him if he was claiming so i could make sure his indie-dom was brought into public canon.

what about my early behavior towards TH seems false to you? me pushing him to give reads? if you're locked in a btsc with someone claiming indie what are you gonna do, not try to feel them out?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Jun 22, 2018 8:54 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Fri Jun 22, 2018 8:16 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:21 pm @Turnip Head are you claiming indie
If Kyle is telling the truth about everything involving TH, why does he need to misrepresent his knowledge in the thread? Why does he need to comment on it at all?
"misinterpret"

dislike. turnip head's wording was ambiguous, my question was a push for him to be more direct.
OK, I guess I can concede the semantics here. But why push him in the first place? To test his claim in public and to let it get sorted out?

yes, but also to see if he'd go further and publically commit to his claim. there's a huge difference between saying "I win if I predict 2 elections" in the privacy of a sex cave and saying it in a public space.

it's also way fucked up to assume that if I were mafia and getting ready to pull some bullshit with turnip head, who tbh would probably be in my list of top 10 favorite people to potentially pull some bullshit with, that id settle on "hey let's claim masons but im a civ and you're an indie and also you have a win condition that can be accomplished in literally 2 phases and also you're a spongebob character and im michael caine and we hang out together and that's just how it is i guess, yeah that'll work fine, this is probably a good long term plan"

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Fri Jun 22, 2018 8:16 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:21 pm @Turnip Head are you claiming indie
If Kyle is telling the truth about everything involving TH, why does he need to misrepresent his knowledge in the thread? Why does he need to comment on it at all?

"misinterpret"

dislike. turnip head's wording was ambiguous, my question was a push for him to be more direct.

[mention]ColinIsCool[/mention] what would have been the purpose in revealing mine and turnip head's masonship? he provided an easily verifiable claim, i didn't need anyone else's help to test it and if he was lying and killed me before I could speak the relevant information I could just leak the information through the ghost myspace information super highway. plus if he was mafia and hoping to use me to gain some kind of credit or something, revealing anything he'd said in the thread would only give incentive to kill me, and devoid of anything else, indie reveals always attract the kinds of people who hear indie and panic even though the game is about lynching mafia, who probably half the time are actually just mafia trying to use Indies as a distraction.

plus it would have been kinda rude.

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