Retrocausality Mafia - ENDGAME: A Reprieve in the Desert

[sprityo]

So to start this off, Golden is town, 100%. No ifs, ands, or buts about it. not matter what happens at anytime, he is town. Henceforth i dont need to talk about him in the slightest

In regards to TurnipHead. If he is telling the truth and he just exits the game upon completion of his wincon, then i dont see an issue. It's the fact that it's his word against ours. He certainly has just had a blast being silly up until this point. but anything further than say day5 he should be lynched. A half and half, but he's not going to be a priority lynch from me unless of course, he's lying.

In conjunction with Kylemii, all ive found in his iso is defending himself as civilian and TH as a non-threat to town. also this golden nugget of a post

it's also way fucked up to assume that if I were mafia and getting ready to pull some bullshit with turnip head, who tbh would probably be in my list of top 10 favorite people to potentially pull some bullshit with, that id settle on "hey let's claim masons but im a civ and you're an indie and also you have a win condition that can be accomplished in literally 2 phases and also you're a spongebob character and im michael caine and we hang out together and that's just how it is i guess, yeah that'll work fine, this is probably a good long term plan"

Take that as you will, if anything im similar but kyle should probably step it up with me and get some reads out there, even though he does ask information gathering questions. I list Kyle as null-leaning scum. Since he could easily go both ways, and im assuming the worst.

linki:

[Scotty]

So to start this off, Golden is town, 100%. No ifs, ands, or buts about it. not matter what happens at anytime, he is town. Henceforth i dont need to talk about him in the slightest

In regards to TurnipHead. If he is telling the truth and he just exits the game upon completion of his wincon, then i dont see an issue. It's the fact that it's his word against ours. He certainly has just had a blast being silly up until this point. but anything further than say day5 he should be lynched. A half and half, but he's not going to be a priority lynch from me unless of course, he's lying.

In conjunction with Kylemii, all ive found in his iso is defending himself as civilian and TH as a non-threat to town. also this golden nugget of a post

it's also way fucked up to assume that if I were mafia and getting ready to pull some bullshit with turnip head, who tbh would probably be in my list of top 10 favorite people to potentially pull some bullshit with, that id settle on "hey let's claim masons but im a civ and you're an indie and also you have a win condition that can be accomplished in literally 2 phases and also you're a spongebob character and im michael caine and we hang out together and that's just how it is i guess, yeah that'll work fine, this is probably a good long term plan"

Take that as you will, if anything im similar but kyle should probably step it up with me and get some reads out there, even though he does ask information gathering questions. I list Kyle as null-leaning scum. Since he could easily go both ways, and im assuming the worst.

linki:

If you believe golden to be town unequivocally, then I am also town.

[sprityo]

just read through her iso, lapluie's posts don't ping me much at all. her tone seems genuine and i trust hee

kyle, to be blunt about this. there's nothing to be pinged about. there's genuine posts....about nothing. it's like looking at a blank piece of paper and saying "this doesnt look bad, and i like the color. so it's a good work of art."

im bad at metaphors but that's how im interpreting the above

[sprityo]

So to start this off, Golden is town, 100%. No ifs, ands, or buts about it. not matter what happens at anytime, he is town. Henceforth i dont need to talk about him in the slightest

In regards to TurnipHead. If he is telling the truth and he just exits the game upon completion of his wincon, then i dont see an issue. It's the fact that it's his word against ours. He certainly has just had a blast being silly up until this point. but anything further than say day5 he should be lynched. A half and half, but he's not going to be a priority lynch from me unless of course, he's lying.

In conjunction with Kylemii, all ive found in his iso is defending himself as civilian and TH as a non-threat to town. also this golden nugget of a post

it's also way fucked up to assume that if I were mafia and getting ready to pull some bullshit with turnip head, who tbh would probably be in my list of top 10 favorite people to potentially pull some bullshit with, that id settle on "hey let's claim masons but im a civ and you're an indie and also you have a win condition that can be accomplished in literally 2 phases and also you're a spongebob character and im michael caine and we hang out together and that's just how it is i guess, yeah that'll work fine, this is probably a good long term plan"

Take that as you will, if anything im similar but kyle should probably step it up with me and get some reads out there, even though he does ask information gathering questions. I list Kyle as null-leaning scum. Since he could easily go both ways, and im assuming the worst.

linki:

If you believe golden to be town unequivocally, then I am also town.

but see scotty, me, myself. I have no way to trust you COMPLETELY.

i dont not trust you in relation to golden, i just dont want something to bite me in the ass later. My opinion of you might change come tomorrow.

[Scotty]

So to start this off, Golden is town, 100%. No ifs, ands, or buts about it. not matter what happens at anytime, he is town. Henceforth i dont need to talk about him in the slightest

In regards to TurnipHead. If he is telling the truth and he just exits the game upon completion of his wincon, then i dont see an issue. It's the fact that it's his word against ours. He certainly has just had a blast being silly up until this point. but anything further than say day5 he should be lynched. A half and half, but he's not going to be a priority lynch from me unless of course, he's lying.

In conjunction with Kylemii, all ive found in his iso is defending himself as civilian and TH as a non-threat to town. also this golden nugget of a post

it's also way fucked up to assume that if I were mafia and getting ready to pull some bullshit with turnip head, who tbh would probably be in my list of top 10 favorite people to potentially pull some bullshit with, that id settle on "hey let's claim masons but im a civ and you're an indie and also you have a win condition that can be accomplished in literally 2 phases and also you're a spongebob character and im michael caine and we hang out together and that's just how it is i guess, yeah that'll work fine, this is probably a good long term plan"

Take that as you will, if anything im similar but kyle should probably step it up with me and get some reads out there, even though he does ask information gathering questions. I list Kyle as null-leaning scum. Since he could easily go both ways, and im assuming the worst.

linki:

If you believe golden to be town unequivocally, then I am also town.

but see scotty, me, myself. I have no way to trust you COMPLETELY.

i dont not trust you in relation to golden, i just dont want something to bite me in the ass later. My opinion of you might change come tomorrow.

I’m just confused how golden is the golden child and I’m just a Scotsman. We’re from the same mold, and it hasn’t nothing to do with role flavors. It’s about role description.

If he is bad and had to find me for his baddie powers to work, then this game is bogus because that’s my singular role design

In a game where the host says mass claiming initially is probably a barn idea, I get the trepidation. I probably wouldn’t have even claimed if I hadn’t been on the verge of being lynched.

In any case, he brought it up first, and no one has counterclaimed my flavor. How will trusting me completely bite you in the ass if golden is 100% certain for you?

[Scotty]

I would still currently prefer a lynch of sig over sprityo, fwiw

[Scotty]

Also I’m in work mode and may not be around to change my vote before WoD (it is tonight right?)

[sprityo]

for Spacedaisy I find everything sincere and logical. Daisy makes sure her opinion is heard, her entire day 2 is something i can agree with. between wanting to vote TH becaues unknown third party is a scary thought, and her suspicion of sig. Her outburst against mac looked genuine, but in honesty anyone could get upset at mac because of how he acts. Spacedaisy is a town read from me. I'll have to get other's later, ive gotta get back to work now.


my predictions though is that im going to find Mac town, epi slight town, sig bad/slight bad and colin slight bad. but we'll see


linki: [mention]Scotty[/mention] youre saying you have no other purpose in this game, example: any kind of power. other than being in relation to golden?

[Golden]

I’m absolutely certain mechanically that Scotty cannot be bad. We are a pair. He cannot be bad.

[Kylemii]

Take that as you will, if anything im similar but kyle should probably step it up with me and get some reads out there, even though he does ask information gathering questions. I list Kyle as null-leaning scum. Since he could easily go both ways, and im assuming the worst.

idk where people are getting this whole "Kyle hasn't given reads" thing from but I've given plenty of reads this game? I've been making an effort to say what I feel when I feel it in these recent games, just cus I don't write my feelings and thoughts out in multi paragraph essays doesnt mean they're not there.

[speedchuck]

Answers to questions:

7 hours left
INH is as dead as you can get in this game

[MacDougall]

Yeah that's what I said.

Let's not be stupid here. He's the best lynch. Choutas's early play reeked of scum who couldn't muster the effort and then nek minut swap out.

before i start, i want to ask if youre choosing me because of probability and off someone else who had, not even 10 posts? I particularly enjoy the words "reeked" to make the accusation sound as if choutas basically said "hey guys, im scum."

I couldve replaced into lapluie and had the essential same result. tell me why I'M scum mac, huh?

linki: @Kylemii all the players are on the front silly, vanished or not

You're scum because you're not town.

[MacDougall]

Either the scum in this game are real obvious or they're real not obvious

[Scotty]

for Spacedaisy I find everything sincere and logical. Daisy makes sure her opinion is heard, her entire day 2 is something i can agree with. between wanting to vote TH becaues unknown third party is a scary thought, and her suspicion of sig. Her outburst against mac looked genuine, but in honesty anyone could get upset at mac because of how he acts. Spacedaisy is a town read from me. I'll have to get other's later, ive gotta get back to work now.


my predictions though is that im going to find Mac town, epi slight town, sig bad/slight bad and colin slight bad. but we'll see


linki: @Scotty youre saying you have no other purpose in this game, example: any kind of power. other than being in relation to golden?

It only activates if he finds me, and he found me

[Golden]

I’m not comfortable voting sprit on the basis of choutas.

But is that really what you’re doing Mac or is there more to it?

[MacDougall]

I’m not comfortable voting sprit on the basis of choutas.

But is that really what you’re doing Mac or is there more to it?

There is slightly more to it. Sprityo's play since he entered the game has been pretty much as I expect from someone entering into a scum game and trying to pick up the pieces. It's hard to really explain why it's just all pretty much gut.

[Golden]

I’m not comfortable voting sprit on the basis of choutas.

But is that really what you’re doing Mac or is there more to it?

There is slightly more to it. Sprityo's play since he entered the game has been pretty much as I expect from someone entering into a scum game and trying to pick up the pieces. It's hard to really explain why it's just all pretty much gut.

I think you could well be right but for me sig is the one I feel very good about, sprit a possible teammate.

I’ll look in to sprit more next phase.

[Epignosis]

just read through her iso, lapluie's posts don't ping me much at all. her tone seems genuine and i trust hee

kyle, to be blunt about this. there's nothing to be pinged about. there's genuine posts....about nothing. it's like looking at a blank piece of paper and saying "this doesnt look bad, and i like the color. so it's a good work of art."

im bad at metaphors but that's how im interpreting the above

You're bad at similes.

You're also bad.

[Scotty]

just read through her iso, lapluie's posts don't ping me much at all. her tone seems genuine and i trust hee

kyle, to be blunt about this. there's nothing to be pinged about. there's genuine posts....about nothing. it's like looking at a blank piece of paper and saying "this doesnt look bad, and i like the color. so it's a good work of art."

im bad at metaphors but that's how im interpreting the above

You're bad at similes.

You're also bad.

[MacDougall]

How long day left there is?

[Scotty]

How long day left there is?

Day there long today when

[ColinIsCool]

Are ties random?

[speedchuck]

ties are random

[Scotty]

Is anyone gonna break this tie?

[Scotty]

5 people still haven’t voted.

Ima guess this day ends in 2 hours or so.

Wtf people

[Scotty]

[mention]ColinIsCool[/mention] I see you voted sig in the thread but not in the poll.

So...

[ColinIsCool]

Oh, wow. Thanks for the heads up.

[Kylemii]

just read through her iso, lapluie's posts don't ping me much at all. her tone seems genuine and i trust hee

kyle, to be blunt about this. there's nothing to be pinged about. there's genuine posts....about nothing. it's like looking at a blank piece of paper and saying "this doesnt look bad, and i like the color. so it's a good work of art."

im bad at metaphors but that's how im interpreting the above

I disagree. there's a lot of fluff sure, but there's quite a few reads and the reads she gives seem sincere to me

[sprityo]

just read through her iso, lapluie's posts don't ping me much at all. her tone seems genuine and i trust hee

kyle, to be blunt about this. there's nothing to be pinged about. there's genuine posts....about nothing. it's like looking at a blank piece of paper and saying "this doesnt look bad, and i like the color. so it's a good work of art."

im bad at metaphors but that's how im interpreting the above

I disagree. there's a lot of fluff sure, but there's quite a few reads and the reads she gives seem sincere to me

prove to me then please

[sprityo]

just read through her iso, lapluie's posts don't ping me much at all. her tone seems genuine and i trust hee

kyle, to be blunt about this. there's nothing to be pinged about. there's genuine posts....about nothing. it's like looking at a blank piece of paper and saying "this doesnt look bad, and i like the color. so it's a good work of art."

im bad at metaphors but that's how im interpreting the above

You're bad at similes.

You're also bad.

anything else, your Boniness?

[Kylemii]

I'm...... [VOTE: voting for sig.] aubergine

there's too many inconsistencies. it doesn't make sense that lunalee fake claimed to try to stop herself getting lynched. she did that way too late for it to affect anything in that way, all of his posts after his return have been for the angle of "hey don't lynch me, please keep me around, i can be useful because of my role" and i just don't trust it.

[sprityo]

I’m not comfortable voting sprit on the basis of choutas.

But is that really what you’re doing Mac or is there more to it?

There is slightly more to it. Sprityo's play since he entered the game has been pretty much as I expect from someone entering into a scum game and trying to pick up the pieces. It's hard to really explain why it's just all pretty much gut.

Mac idk what i’ve got to do to get you to believe me that I’m not scum. The only thing I’ve got left besides finishing up my take on people is my role

[Kylemii]

just read through her iso, lapluie's posts don't ping me much at all. her tone seems genuine and i trust hee

kyle, to be blunt about this. there's nothing to be pinged about. there's genuine posts....about nothing. it's like looking at a blank piece of paper and saying "this doesnt look bad, and i like the color. so it's a good work of art."

im bad at metaphors but that's how im interpreting the above

I disagree. there's a lot of fluff sure, but there's quite a few reads and the reads she gives seem sincere to me

prove to me then please

her iso link is on page one, go check it out for yourself? I'm off my break in 8 minutes

[sprityo]

I did check out her iso Page, three times

There’s nothing of significance or role indication anywhere in my mind

[sprityo]

Not role indication, alignment indication

[Kylemii]

@lapluie Can you give me your opinion on the following people:

TurnipHead
Kylemii
ColinisCool
Choutas
Lunalee
insertnamehere

Is there anything that you've seen that stands out to you?

Reading their post histories starting with turnip & downwards
~I feel like his posts aren't game related just a bunch of jibberjabber about random topics that have no contributions to the game whatsoever, pretty monotonous read. (If I'm wrong pls correct me sorry if I've offended you turnip).
~has put in thought & opinions, good read from kyle to be honest, he seems genuine. Have no bad feeling about him.
~he's fun to play mafia with when he's drunk & sober, mostly drunk. good guy... sometimes... still vague to read it's either good or bad. His posts give me the same opinion like last game, idk if it's a good or bad thing help.
~churro boi!! He's too quiet, pls post more & give more thought, I think he's capable of doing more but he seems reserved, his posts indicate some WiFi trouble & request a replacement so idunno, neutral!!
~good stuff, but some reason I feel like she's hiding something or is too worried to say but overall , neutral
~that long as heck weird font essay convinced me he's town..
that is all ... thanks

i liked this post by lapluie

[Kylemii]

Spoiler: show

What do you base your D1 votes on?

Well, I normally do an initial lynch on people to get them talking, and then I'll vote for the person who seems scummiest or whose lynch will yield the most information.

Why don't you suspect him? Wasn't that a weird ass post? I posted the same thing as scum last game and everybody called my bullshit.
He's suss as sin.

I've explained that I was busy with exams. All I did was make a post hyping up the thread and showing that I'm alive. It's hardly suss as sin.
And, if you're talking about me voting lapluie, read above.

Wow could you at least @ me if ur gonna lynch me zyph thx

Sorry.

I normally do an initial lynch on people to get them talking
I lol’d. Good one, even though I’m sure this isn’t a joke.

Do you feel like your lynch of lapluie is getting him talking? Right now it appears that you ordered Haricots Verts with the expectation of cake and when the green beans show up you just nod and continue patiently waiting on your cake.

I just thought I'd give them a little more time. Chill.
@lapluie, who do you think is scummy? Answer quick, because I'm getting into loads of trouble.

I’m chilling, I have a fan blowing on my feet

Also what does it mean to vote for someone on D1 that will yield the most information? That’s a catch-all reasoning, because lynching anyone yields the most information. We have no information.

I don’t believe that you actually care about what lapluie has to say. By your own admission, you have no suspects.

Might want to at least look at some more people, ZMan (can I call you ZMan?)

I'm going to [VOTE: Scotty] aubergine, just because he seems too eager to back Zephyrus into a corner over his Lapluie vote.

This was lunas last recent post, I don't really like it, didn't contribute to much other than facts about why Scotty is digging at zeph, was it that much of an obvious case for her that one is convinced Scotty is bad? Idunno I have a bad feeling

and this one..... kinda..... and..... that's it actually. okay maybe lapluiearnestness is less pervasive than I thought actually

[sprityo]

Thank you for affirming what I thought.


On the topic of Epignosis:









I fucking hate how Epi plays.

Because no one is gonna really know what’s going besides him, and even as a good 70% of what he’s said is just bullshitting around, he still has enough said to make him look Town. And I hate it. Town-Lean on Epi

[Kylemii]

actually let's lynch turnip head

[sprityo]

for Spacedaisy I find everything sincere and logical. Daisy makes sure her opinion is heard, her entire day 2 is something i can agree with. between wanting to vote TH becaues unknown third party is a scary thought, and her suspicion of sig. Her outburst against mac looked genuine, but in honesty anyone could get upset at mac because of how he acts. Spacedaisy is a town read from me. I'll have to get other's later, ive gotta get back to work now.


my predictions though is that im going to find Mac town, epi slight town, sig bad/slight bad and colin slight bad. but we'll see


linki: @Scotty youre saying you have no other purpose in this game, example: any kind of power. other than being in relation to golden?

It only activates if he finds me, and he found me

......Alright I’ll believe it. you’ve got me 95% sold. Scotty is town with Golden

[Golden]

actually let's lynch turnip head

Why are you of this view?

[sprityo]

[mention]Golden[/mention] can you give me your stance on Colin? I’m looking through day 2 and 3 and he’s honestly done a lot. And it’s not fluff, like taking the time he has to go iso everyone, and give a read is, IMO a lot more worthwhile than what anyone else’s hasn’t done in the thread. Mac? He uses his crass attitude to shove people the way he wants. Epi? He’s as pleasant as that shitty table at Applebee’s.

Like if I had to put my chips in a corner I would say colin isn’t mafia.

[sprityo]

So a GTH would look like this for me

Golden
Scotty
Colin
Mac
Daisy
Epi
Kyle
TH
Sig
Lap

Currently

[Golden]

I believe Colin is the most likely teammate of sig and Luna.

Doing a lot isn’t my idea of what makes someone town.

[sprityo]

I believe Colin is the most likely teammate of sig and Luna.

Doing a lot isn’t my idea of what makes someone town.

So you’re basing only his interactions with those two people to formulate your opinion?

[sprityo]

I’ve been looking at people as a whole because we don’t have a confirmation of alignments as a town. The only person I would bet money on being bad is one of sig and Luna, but not both.

Meanwhile lap is sliding by under the radar and that can either mean mafia in hiding, or a serious issue for town come later in the game.

[Golden]

I believe Colin is the most likely teammate of sig and Luna.

Doing a lot isn’t my idea of what makes someone town.

So you’re basing only his interactions with those two people to formulate your opinion?

I haven’t even done a deep enough dive to suggest it’s his interactions with those two people.

[sprityo]

I believe Colin is the most likely teammate of sig and Luna.

Doing a lot isn’t my idea of what makes someone town.

So you’re basing only his interactions with those two people to formulate your opinion?

I haven’t even done a deep enough dive to suggest it’s his interactions with those two people.

Can you give me like a single pivotal point/sentence/etc to describe him then in relation to alignment? Because I’m not seeing what you are

[sprityo]

actually let's lynch turnip head

Just saw this and.... huh????


What happened to all the gusto of defending him all game?

[Golden]

I believe Colin is the most likely teammate of sig and Luna.

Doing a lot isn’t my idea of what makes someone town.

So you’re basing only his interactions with those two people to formulate your opinion?

I haven’t even done a deep enough dive to suggest it’s his interactions with those two people.

Can you give me like a single pivotal point/sentence/etc to describe him then in relation to alignment? Because I’m not seeing what you are

I'll case colin when it actually becomes relevant. Right now I'm happy with a sig lynch.