The Syndicate

sprityo wrote: ↑Sat Jan 18, 2020 12:01 pm
sabie12 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 18, 2020 11:53 am I was right that dom was trying to bus nanook for civ cred. I was picking up on the clues speed gave but I had to make sure I lived through the lynch so I could kill off the last baddie. Spirit and nanook basically outed themselves by the end and I was reasonably certain I had made the right decision. Even though this game was a little stressful I feel good about it I enjoyed playing with everyone! I hope to see ted and therealet in more games in the future. I did legit get sad that therealet was feeling frustrated I hope he continues to play!
he is signed up for DR Mafia if you want to be a yes now

I learned the hard way that I really can't try to play more than one game at a time. I just signed up for the champion game.

I was right that dom was trying to bus nanook for civ cred. I was picking up on the clues speed gave but I had to make sure I lived through the lynch so I could kill off the last baddie. Spirit and nanook basically outed themselves by the end and I was reasonably certain I had made the right decision. Even though this game was a little stressful I feel good about it I enjoyed playing with everyone! I hope to see ted and therealet in more games in the future. I did legit get sad that therealet was feeling frustrated I hope he continues to play!

Wow I actually won the game! I agonized over that decision but ultimately there were some things that stuck out that made me think I had to kill off nanook. I was reasonably certain speed was the director but I knew I had to survive til night phase in order to win and I didn't want nanook trying to lynch me at the last second. I had kind of screwed up on misinterpreting a rule but I figured it out. This was an intense game and everyone did a great job. I enjoyed playing with everyone.

Ted I know to you my play style may seem weird but I really am a very strategic player. I wouldn't have lived to the end if I wasn't. You just have to get to know people's styles.

Also while this game has been going on I have been having a super crazy difficult time at work so being here often can be difficult.

sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 10:00 pm I knew something was fishy when I said NANOOKofhearts2005

But against my better judgement I waved it off especially after that unnecessary buss on creature

Yeah I've seen jack be super tricky with teammate bussing and buddying people if that's what you mean.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 5:41 pm I'm almost thinking it's Sprit now. 50/50 between him and Sprit. Flip a coin, idk.

Well if it is spirityo then I had been right awhile back but no one listened to me.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 3:14 pm Actually, I'm going to vote [VOTE: Nanook] aubergine.

I can see the things he's done through the filter of bussing and setting up the endgame. I can't see that with Sprit as well. If it is Sprit, gg dude you've come a long way since Credithunt.

Nanook is the last scum and he's bussed his way to this point to win goodwill. I have very little grounding to say why, but it's true. Sabie has to be who she is. Sprit has teetered with screwing everything over regarding rolespec. I know I'm town. That leaves Nanook.

And then there's this:

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 7:57 am The fact that I think creature is scum shouldn’t really surprise anyone tbh, I’ve been pushing him since D1 and nothing he’s done has made me think I’m wrong.
Nanook was 'suspecting creature all game and creature never did anything to change his mind.' That quote is damning. It reeks of casual distancing, something I've done a lot of times as scum. It's keeping the bus in his back pocket. If creature doesn't manage to avoid the lynch, then Nanook's been after him all game. If he does, Nanook clearly never pushed him heavily enough to cause an early lynch. I'm sure nanook would dispute that, but that's all I can see with like a day to play.

Sprit would be my next choice for scum, but it's like 90/10.

You make some fair points and things I was also thinking. The rej kill was an odd choice. Nanook could have been looking for civ cred and hopes to somehow kill the rest of us off. Nanook also was kind of lurking last end of day phase. And Doms post singling him out was weird too.

sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 9:52 am honestky rej was the most peculiar kill

i was 100% expecting one of me sabie or nanook

I was thinking that too.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 10:06 am
sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 9:52 am honestky rej was the most peculiar kill

i was 100% expecting one of me sabie or nanook
Tbh I thought there was a decent chance it was me, given my calling sabie out as calculon. Idk, not super interested in NK analysis tbh.

Well someone who did the NK wouldn't be interested in analyzing it..

speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 2:04 am On the one hand asking questions like sprit is doing is almost like trying to bend the rules to cheese rolehunt instead of play mafia.

On the other hand, the roles are there and I'm down 4 days in making this a fair debate lol.

So is that it? You've given up? No other thoughts on anything?

sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2020 7:54 pm what if we force speedchuck to roleclaim so that either way, he dies? And if he isn’t mafia then we narrow it down to us three

Let's say for arguments sake that speed isnt mafia. Would you think there's a possibility that nanook is?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:38 pm Hmm. I will try, but as I am going on a date tonight, it might not be too soon.

Dawwww you guys are cute! Btw this game kinda ruined my date over the weekend haha

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:32 pm
sabie12 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:22 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:16 pm Yeah so I refrained from posting last night in hopes mafia wouldn’t kill me, looks like it paid off.

So I’m pretty much always just gonna kill [VOTE: speedchuck] aubergine

I’m pretty confident I’ve figured out both sprityo and Sabie's roles, so.
I was thinking speed too based on my interactions with creature and how speed just hovered around like he was waiting to see if creature would convince me to move my vote and follow suit. Also he was the last to vote creature like he kinda had no choice at that point.
You sure you don't have any reason to reconsider my alignment?

I'm sure you know by now I'm definitely willing to hear people out. It's only like the 1st half hour of the day phase. I am willing to hear you out on what your theory is. My theory on you isn't the only one rolling around in my mind right now.

[VOTE: speedchuck] aubergine

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:16 pm Yeah so I refrained from posting last night in hopes mafia wouldn’t kill me, looks like it paid off.

So I’m pretty much always just gonna kill [VOTE: speedchuck] aubergine

I’m pretty confident I’ve figured out both sprityo and Sabie's roles, so.

I was thinking speed too based on my interactions with creature and how speed just hovered around like he was waiting to see if creature would convince me to move my vote and follow suit. Also he was the last to vote creature like he kinda had no choice at that point.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 7:38 pm
sabie12 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 7:32 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 7:10 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 7:07 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 7:06 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 7:05 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 7:01 pm otherwise I could just focus on writing
Writing is good. You write something, let me know and I'll read it.

I'm something of a writer myself.
I just write ~2k stuff
So like. Short fiction? Or something else? Either way I dig it.

RIP and GG my dude.
Yeah, short fiction. I think eventually I will copy and paste what I have been doing lately to WattPad after I finish hosting a game elsewhere
I'm actually a really good editor. I'm helping a friend of mine edit his book. If you ever want help with editing#or ideas or anything, let me know.

Hahaha yeah, yeah I get it. Typing on here is different than editing a book.

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 7:10 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 7:07 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 7:06 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 7:05 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 7:01 pm otherwise I could just focus on writing
Writing is good. You write something, let me know and I'll read it.

I'm something of a writer myself.
I just write ~2k stuff
So like. Short fiction? Or something else? Either way I dig it.

RIP and GG my dude.
Yeah, short fiction. I think eventually I will copy and paste what I have been doing lately to WattPad after I finish hosting a game elsewhere

I'm actually a really good editor I'm helping a friend of mine edit his book. If you ever want help with editingor ideas or anything let me know.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 7:14 pm Has Sprityo been towncore all game or is it just recent?

How does this lynch look on Rej?

I had questioned spirityo earlier in the game because he conveniently became more active after doms lynch and all of a sudden came after me when he hadn't even been voting prior to that. So I'd say more recent.
Rej eh? He still could be creatures teammate. Would be funny if other version of you got that right and then disappeared.

I felt like the thing that convinced me not to move my vote off of creature was when he said town are killing themselves rather than ourselves and the fact that he didnt start "hunting" until like now when he was at risk of being caught.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 7:09 pm So we got one more day. Does this death reveal any beautiful light to those who have known creature longer than I?

So I thought creature was maybe trying to appeal to me with the mislynch thing because I do know how that feels. And I also know that I've seen creature be way more aggressive before as a civ. And I also also know that he tried to buddy me earlier this game and I kinda figure that was what he was trying to do here. I feel that him complimenting my gameplay meant I was right about him.

So that worked out quite nicely.

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 7:03 pm You sure did better than anyone else alive here

I care too much. I've been stressing over this game too much too. Blah

What a sad end of day. Well if we lose at least I can die knowing I tried my best.

What a lame end of day sigh

I just hate when there is no discussion or anything.

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 6:48 pm I know sabie and sprityo are pretty much town, so it's between Nanook, Rej and speed

Yeah I don't know what else to do at this point. I mean maybe it's better if the game just ends soon because this game has caused me too much stress and it's not supposed to be stressful. I mean I would move my vote to speed I guess

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 6:29 pm
Dom wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2020 12:21 am
Rej wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 8:54 am Finally @Dom
tries to be funny, but there was nothing contributive in his posts on page 4, basically fluff. I have familair (townish) vibes from that, but as I am bad with meta reads, I will let others judge it for me.
You always rude when you're bad?

Enrique wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 1:20 pm
sig wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 10:23 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 9:39 pm I think sabie is one scum
Could see this.
I don’t believe you at all, lol.

Just caught up. Rej is obviously bad. Creature is probably their teammate. I’m really annoyed by this trend of making a million posts and then accusing others of posting “fluff”. Slow down pls.
Hi friend-- miss u
The first part looks distancing, the second idk

Well Enrique says he thought you and rej were teammates. Before disappearing into oblivion

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 6:27 pm Nearly forgot I was supposed to go ISO Dom

I guess his treatment of nanook is weird like he made a case on him but then didnt vote him. Could also just have been a last minute effort to get votes off himself but I know he's a teammate busser and maybe have wanted civ cred for outing one of his teammates.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 6:18 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 6:17 pm I just hate being known as the easiest mislynch on the site
Funny, I think Sabie would say the same thing. As would Sig and Lunalee at different points.

Yeah it happens to me all the time. We still have time for that not to happen if that's legitimately what's happening here.

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 6:15 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2020 11:40 pm Creature - Bender. Would not lynch. Also fuck you because of Long Con.
Enrique - Has not been here for ages. Probably a civilian given how tactical the kills have been. Civilian
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - I think Dom's treatment of this guy was beyond the bounds of associates. Civilian
novaselinenever - Can't give you credit for screaming about sig. If anything it makes you look like a paranoid Execubot. Would lynch.
Rej - By default...Would not lynch.
sabie12 - A suspect? Sure. Would lynch.
sprityo - Do better. Would lynch.
I feel like this is terribly wrong

He town read you though

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 5:18 pm What about you Sabie?

Assuming Creature is scum, and I was dead tomorrow for some reason, who would you lynch?

I don't know rej I guess. This game has been difficult.

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 5:56 pm Guess this is gonna be a waste of time

If it's not you then who is it?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 4:58 pm [VOTE: Creature] aubergine

Care to share anything further?

I'm just trying to get some discussion going. I think I'd feel better knowing that I at least put forth an attempt to win rather than just being like whatever scum can just win the game.
I'm at work so hard to post at the moment

Rej wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 3:40 pm @Tedexter

viewtopic.php?f=28&t=1807

here you can see both me and scum novas, novas bsused me D2
okay correction: I was bussed D1 in the game before I think. I got no clue, but I know I was bussed twice here on TS.
A wolf Rej gave his everything to turn a mafialynch into a townlynch D1. I made it to D2 then got bussed while I had the chance to turn around another wagon. Novas in the end won for mafia and hence I won too.

This one here

Guess ima have to vote creature. I'm sorry I've failed you all. Hope after my lynch you actually find the scum. [VOTE: creature] aubergine

I don't know why rej is town cleared to people. He's voted all civilian no vote or sig. He also made it a point to link to another game and be like see I vote for mislynches when I'm bad.
Creature had been sliding by on people thinking he was bender. He helped get the cop killed off early game.

Whatever [VOTE: rej] aubergine

Spirityo just so you know in case you legitimately are misguided town rather than crafty mafia this situation we are in right now is like our interaction in world asunder not like out interaction in arrowverse.

I mean it's okay because I know I tried my best. And I know everyone will see that I've been honest and haven't lied about anything all game. I just feel bad that I'll be the reason town lost because I didn't do a good enough job solving things and I really didn't want to disappoint everyone.

sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 4:23 am More so than Sabie? Why?

Have you seen any reason to town read creature? I'm reading through his ISO and it's pretty underwhelming.

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Jan 14, 2020 8:30 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Jan 14, 2020 8:29 pm vote sabie my guys
Okay

[VOTE: sabie] aubergine

Why though? What even is the case on me?

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Jan 14, 2020 8:29 pm if there was ever a time for epi to be wrong, let's hope it isnt now

vote sabie my guys

linki: nope youre already here, just play the game

Not just epi was wrong but basically everyone is wrong about me. Except obviously the mafia who knows they're setting up a mislynch on me. Good job y'all

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Jan 14, 2020 8:25 pm sabie, would you lynch enriquechuck?

Maybe I mean that is a fair point. He obviously did pretty much nothing. I've seen Enrique do that as a civ before though. Wouldn't you think that his teammate would have made more of a point to ask for a replacement sooner?

P.S. lynching me is the biggest waste of time.

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Jan 14, 2020 8:16 pm
sabie12 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 14, 2020 8:14 pm Creature is that sarcasm? Are you just basically saying someone left alive in this game aside from you is bad?
I have no idea what you mean

I misread the context of your post. It looked like you were saying there's scum on one of these people and then bolded every player that's still alive besides yourself. Like saying well someone here besides me is mafia.

Creature is that sarcasm? Are you just basically saying someone left alive in this game aside from you is bad?

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Jan 14, 2020 8:05 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Tue Jan 14, 2020 8:03 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Jan 14, 2020 7:43 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Tue Jan 14, 2020 7:40 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Jan 14, 2020 7:38 pm yeah [VOTE: creature] aubergine

start talking.
I don't think I was allowed to deny I'm Bender
you can deny anything. whether it's true no one knows

next.
Thought I wasn't supposed to give any evidence to my role in any form, including denying to be another role
it is the equivalent of saying youre not mafia or not a mafia role

yknow what i dont even care anymore [VOTE: sabie] aubergine this is obviously what needs to happen today. wifom or not sabie should go

Ah yes that's what needs to happen so you and your scummy partner rej can go on ahead and win this game for the mafia team.
How's that old adage go? Just do it? On no no that's not it...

Do it bitch

It sucks that nova waited so long to make that post maybe we could have gone a different direction. Sigh sorry nova. This was unfortunately a civ vs civ lynch and we will have to go in a different direction with tomorrows lynch.

[VOTE: nova] aubergine

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2020 2:16 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2020 2:06 am
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2020 1:57 am Sabie is a lock at this stage, and that basically locks Enrique the other direction 'cause Sabie/Enrique doesn't make sense to me.
Why?
It'd mean she's been running a solo show and I just don't see that. She doesn't kill Mac on her own I reckon, and I think she fights a bit on Dom. Maybe not put herself into a position to be strong-armed to vote there early.

I really hate that you keep saying I was "strong armed" to vote like that I needed ted to tell me what to do. I don't need people mansplaining this game and telling me what to do. If I didnt want to vote for dom I wouldn't have. If I was his teammate I would not have let him be the first one lynched it does not make sense at all.

So nova you're implying epi is bad and turning on both of us? Then who would his partner be if it wasnt either of us?

I talked to creature because he asked me what my thoughts were and we were online at the same time. And then if I hadn't answered creatures question it would be all oh sabie didn't answer the question see she's bad. So like no matter what I do it's wrong.

I do hope at least someone realizes there isn't actually a case against me and it all stemmed from spirityo saying that me being on the lynch polls means I'm bad and then him doing nothing until after dom dies is super townie and not weird or sketchy at all.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2020 12:15 am If anyone has a reason to believe sabie is good, speak.

If anyone has a reason to believe nova is good, speak.

Otherwise, lynch and be done.

Nova voted ted and then sig until he got lynched. Weird he was so super focused on sig and he said he suspected dom but voted with dom on sig. Sounds more sketchy than towny.

And I mean obviously I know I'm town and I know I'm a better player than people give me credit for.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2020 12:08 am
sabie12 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2020 12:03 am
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2020 12:01 am
sabie12 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2020 11:59 pm Do you guys really think I'm that stupid? Kind of insulting.

[VOTE: spirityo] aubergine
As in Mafia you would never kill Ted?
I wouldn't have gotten Dom killed off and then killed ted after he was blatantly accusing me. That would be really poor decision making on my part. I'm not that horrible at this game.
You only voted Dom after being hounded by Ted though which is why I said your vote wasn't that great. You may not have had a choice after expressing suspicion of him but holding your vote early on.

Ted was the most obvious town, and the only one at that. He's the most obvious kill. Also why wouldn't scum you kill him with the way he was blatantly accusing you, him being alive is you guaranteed to get lynched. With the certainty he was talking about you, I doubt he'd reconsider. Killing him actually opens up the door for the scum argument of "I'd never kill my main accuser/He was killed to put pressure on me" which is the one you're using. Bad argumentation.

Maybe you did it to frame me and felt like I was town reading you so I wouldn't suspect you.
I just want everyone to know that I'm a little smarter than people give me credit for. Or perhaps you already know that and are messing with me.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2020 11:59 pm
sabie12 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2020 11:59 pm Do you guys really think I'm that stupid? Kind of insulting.

[VOTE: spirityo] aubergine
Nope. Just bad. Along with nova, your teammate.

I hope you know that you're completely wrong about that but I'm interested to hear why you think that. You had said before you know nova is bad and then didnt really do anything with it. I've said I'm willing to hear you out. At this point I don't have any reason to believe that nova is for sure town.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2020 12:01 am
sabie12 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2020 11:59 pm Do you guys really think I'm that stupid? Kind of insulting.

[VOTE: spirityo] aubergine
As in Mafia you would never kill Ted?

I wouldn't have gotten Dom killed off and then killed ted after he was blatantly accusing me. That would be really poor decision making on my part. I'm not that horrible at this game.

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