The Syndicate

Well, hopefully we'll find out. *votes J Pederman*

George Costanza, Frank Costanza... Elaine Benes.

You'll be lynching another Civ.

Elaine Benes wrote: ↑Sun Oct 15, 2017 7:35 pm

Jackie Chiles wrote: ↑Sun Oct 15, 2017 7:35 pm
The lie is that you tracked me and saw a murder.

What is my motive for lying?

Presumably the same as your motive for lying the last two times you roleclaimed: to draw a nightkill.

Elaine Benes wrote: ↑Sun Oct 15, 2017 7:26 pm

Jackie Chiles wrote: ↑Sun Oct 15, 2017 7:18 pm Why don't you tell us?

You're an imposter.

For example, for a lawyer, you aren't very good with your wording.

Jackie Chiles wrote: ↑Sun Oct 15, 2017 7:15 pm

Elaine Benes wrote: ↑Sun Oct 15, 2017 6:35 pmI'm suspecting you because of your ineptitude at eliminating the two-shot tracker.

Well, that's a flagrant lie.

The Mafia have eliminated no civilian power roles. Both of them are still alive. So you and your goons have done a piss poor job of getting rid of them. Saying, "Well, that's a flagrant lie" to the above statement means that the Mafia have done a good job eliminating the power roles.

You don't even know how to lawyer.

The lie is that you tracked me and saw a murder.

Why don't you tell us?

Elaine Benes wrote: ↑Sun Oct 15, 2017 6:35 pmI'm suspecting you because of your ineptitude at eliminating the two-shot tracker.

Well, that's a flagrant lie.

Ms Benes. Are you suspecting me because you didn't like my method of analysis, or because I've been absent lately?

No problem, Mr Seinfeld. I used the time I had, and I had to stop. Just got home from the office, and I'm going to get back to it.

George Costanza looks the worst from my analysis so far.

Elaine Benes wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2017 12:46 am Since George mentioned Jackie, I went to look at Jackie's posts.

Jackie Chiles wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2017 3:53 pm

George Steinbrenner wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:58 pm

Elaine Benes wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 7:49 pm Well, sure it's unique, because anybody paying attention knows that what your uncle said wasn't true, including you, since you could have tied it up. If I said I liked men but was a lesbian, that would be providing a unique perspective too, but would it be right? Would it be correct, Jerry?

This Benes woman is giving me fits, and not just because she's a Baltimore fan! Seems like she's picking a fight with Seinfeld just to pick a fight. Her argument has my head spinning. Big Stein's getting dizzy. Like riding on one of those carousels, trying to keep up. I never cared for those rides. Rollercoasters, those are okay. Very exhilarating. But a carousel just goes in circles, over and over and over. You never know when they're going to end. I can't figure out where the end of this argument is or where it's beginning either. She says Seinfeld is suspicious for appreciating input from his uncle, then she says he's bad because he voted for Newman. It's not making sense to me, I don't buy her conviction. But Big Stein doesn't see why a mobster would pick a fight like this either. Big Stein is confused, but he'll keep kicking!

I have to say that I find Mr Seinfeld's points about Ms Benes to far more convincing than this attack. This kind of latching-on to minutiae, accusation, and then hands-in-the-air confusion is the kind of base fearmongering that I expect to see from the Mafia. 5 out of 5 for roleplay though!

My top picks for lynch today: Steinbrenner, Frank Costanza, and... let's go with George as a distant third, because I haven't had a good feeling about that guy yet.

George as a distant third? I want to touch on something here. A nipple, if you will: There are two Georges. Two. Georges. The first George is Steinbrenner. There are multiple Costanzas. Multiple. Costanzas. Constanzes? I don't know. Or care. George Costanza is the distant third. The grievances with the first two are documented in Jackie's (15) posts. The grievance with George number two is not.

My addition of George Costanza was just a gut feeling about him, although he comes up looking bad to me in my analysis above. Interestingly enough, George Steinbrenner is now in my good books based on his analysis.

Instead, there's this.

Jackie Chiles wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2017 6:19 pm

Frank Costanza wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2017 5:53 pm ASSMAN! I'LL GIVE HIM ASSMAN!

*votes Kramer*

Now where did this vote come from? You criticize George, Elaine, Estelle... but then vote Kramer with no real explanation! Not to mention that this is a follower vote on someone I'm feeling pretty good about. Highly questionable behavior.

On another not, rereading Estelle's three posts, I find it satisfying to read them in her roleplaying voice. It works despite her admission that she doesn't know how.

Change vote: Frank

Why would Jackie Chiles have a good feeling about Kramer that early?

I need answers, Jackie-O. Where do you stand now on the living?

My good feeling about Mr Kramer came from a post he made to Mr Seinfeld about "keeping him around, you'll be glad you did". Paraphrased, that, since I'm currently out of time for this right now. Looked to me like a vanilla Civ who wanted to draw a kill, which, sadly for him, is what happened. I got the same feeling from your claims, incidentally... not that I think it's necessary to draw attention to such a thing.

Ok, sorry, still recovering today, I wasn't as active as I had hoped, in Mafia or in real life. Due to being sick, I fell behind in responsibilities and things I need to get done. So, even though I feel much better now because of Prednisone and Azithromycin, my time hasn't been free enough to participate at the level I should be. That said, I'm going to try to dive back into the game with some player analysis stuff. Hopefully that will get my head fully back into this game.

First of all, RIP to Mrs Costanza, and my sincere condolences to her grieving husband and son. She seemed like a fine woman.

Now, down to business. I plan to look through each player's posts and catalogue who they have trusted/vouched for/said positive things about, and also who they have suspected/said negative things about. The more intense the colour, the stronger the opinion.

Elaine Benes

Frank Costanza
Jerry Seinfeld
Soup Nazi
Jerry Seinfeld
David Puddy
David Puddy
J Peterman
David Puddy
Joe Civilian (lol)
David Puddy
Jerry Seinfeld (a deception, claimed to track Jerry)
J Peterman
George Costanza
J Peterman
Tim Whatley
George Costanza
J Peterman

Analysis: Ms Benes has very little to say that is positive about anyone. The closest she came was questioning why Mr Steinbrenner was so interested in her boss, Mr Peterman.

Frank Costanza

George Costanza
Estelle Costanza
George Costanza
Soup Nazi
Cosmo Kramer
George Costanza
George Steinbrenner
David Puddy
Jerry Seinfeld
David Puddy
Jackie Chiles
George Costanza
Soup Nazi
George Costanza

More positivity than Ms Benes, Costanza Sr. has been most negative about his son George.

George Costanza

Jackie Chiles
Cosmo Kramer
George Steinbrenner
Uncle Leo
Jerry Seinfeld
Jackie Chiles
Elaine Benes
The Soup Nazi
Estelle Costanza
Frank Costanza
Estelle Costanza
Jerry Seinfeld
Elaine Benes
Uncle Leo
J Peterman
Jackie Chiles

Pretty even number of positive and negative stuff here. In contrast to my previous two analyses, this amount of 'vouching' makes me feel suspicious. Mafia know who's not bad, and I could see him finding it easier to be honest when giving opinions, if he's bad. On the other hand, Estelle was his biggest suspect, so why night kill her in that case? Where would that leave him?

George Steinbrenner

Uncle Leo
David Puddy
Newman
Kenny Bania
J Pederman
Elaine Benes
Soup Nazi
Jackie Chiles
Frank Costanza
Estelle Costanza
J Peterman
David Puddy
David Puddy
J Peterman
Jerry Seinfeld
Elaine Benes
J Peterman
Frank Costanza
Jackie Chiles
J Peterman
Elaine Benes
Soup Nazi
Then his own rainbow:
Jerry Seinfeld
The Soup Nazi
Jackie Chiles
Uncle Leo
George Costanza
Tim Whatley
Frank Costanza
Elaine Benes
J. Peterman

Lots of content here. Looks pretty good to me, actually. His opinion on Frank Costanza has shifted quite a bit.

That's all the time I have right now, unfortunately.

George Costanza wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2017 5:46 pm Jackie has been quiet.

Just catching up now, Mr Costanza. Sorry for my absence, but in Real Life I was hospitalized with a chest infection last night. I'm home now, and getting right back to business.

Mrs Constanza, what is an "SPK"?

David Puddy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2017 9:40 pm

Jerry Seinfeld wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2017 9:11 pm

David Puddy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2017 9:03 pm More distrust:
Jackie Chiles
Frank Costanza

I'd be really interested in hearing about your concerns with Jackie.

His role playing is good, but that's about it. Any post that vaguely represents baddie hunting is reaching and pretty rediculous.

Ridiculous? I'll put my baddie hunting skills up against yours any time, Mr Puddy. You think your own roleplay allows you to cut corners and be noncommunicative, well let me tell you - that is not gonna fly!

Mr Puddy, I find your comments about me to be slanderous, unsupported, offensive! Seems to me like you were put on the spot by Mr Seinfeld and filled in the gaps by scanning the player list to see whose name you could drop in there.

Furthermore, in regards to this statement:

David Puddy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2017 6:55 pm I was asked my thoughts on Mr. Soup's most suspicious post. I think they are all suspicious except this one...

The Soup Nazi wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 8:14 pm Look at these two goons distancing from each other. Deplorable.

They must be so irritated because they haven't had any soup today.

Ha-ha! Ha! Ha!

I found myself almost agreeing with you, until I realized you were telling us what you find unsuspicious! Personally, I took that as one of the Soup Nazi's more suspicious statements. Can you explain why you think this statement is so very unsuspicious?

Welcome, Mr Whatley! I seem to recognize you from an associate of mine, Saul Goodman... but maybe not. Face seems awfully familiar.

J Peterman wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2017 7:47 pmWho was it that made the comment about the Estelle and "villread"? I like it. Has experience, but is not using it.

Almost forgot about that one - if Mrs Costanza does have extensive Mafia experience, then she is certainly not attempting to use it.

George Steinbrenner wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:58 pm

Elaine Benes wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 7:49 pm Well, sure it's unique, because anybody paying attention knows that what your uncle said wasn't true, including you, since you could have tied it up. If I said I liked men but was a lesbian, that would be providing a unique perspective too, but would it be right? Would it be correct, Jerry?

This Benes woman is giving me fits, and not just because she's a Baltimore fan! Seems like she's picking a fight with Seinfeld just to pick a fight. Her argument has my head spinning. Big Stein's getting dizzy. Like riding on one of those carousels, trying to keep up. I never cared for those rides. Rollercoasters, those are okay. Very exhilarating. But a carousel just goes in circles, over and over and over. You never know when they're going to end. I can't figure out where the end of this argument is or where it's beginning either. She says Seinfeld is suspicious for appreciating input from his uncle, then she says he's bad because he voted for Newman. It's not making sense to me, I don't buy her conviction. But Big Stein doesn't see why a mobster would pick a fight like this either. Big Stein is confused, but he'll keep kicking!

I have to say that I find Mr Seinfeld's points about Ms Benes to far more convincing than this attack. This kind of latching-on to minutiae, accusation, and then hands-in-the-air confusion is the kind of base fearmongering that I expect to see from the Mafia. 5 out of 5 for roleplay though!

My top picks for lynch today: Steinbrenner, Frank Costanza, and... let's go with George as a distant third, because I haven't had a good feeling about that guy yet.

Pardon me, it seems there are a couple of scenes from another show advertised during this series of clips. It's a slap in the face of Lady Liberty, and I assure you I will do everything in my power to make sure justice is done.

Jerry Seinfeld wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 2:41 pm ...and they're spectacular tier:
Uncle Leo
Jackie Chiles

This feels like the good side of role play tier:
George Steinbrenner
The Soup Nazi

The yada-yada tier:
J Peterman
George Costanza
Kramer
Kenny Bania

What's up with _____ tier:
Estelle Costanza
Frank Costanza
Elaine Benes
David Puddy

Why thank you, Mr Seinfeld! Though I agree on Frank Costanza, I don't think the courts would side with you over Estelle - unless you mean to just prod her. In my experience, someone bad will often try to get suspicion in there, on the record. Estelle strikes me as a civilian who is disoriented, perplexed, and bewildered.

In fact, here's some 'best of' Estelle Costanza scenes for our friend:

Jerry Seinfeld wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2017 7:38 pm

Jackie Chiles wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2017 7:34 pm Marlene, Vanessa, Laura.... you got a problem sticking with one woman, Seinfeld?

I'm going out with Donna tomorrow. Why do you feel good about Kramer, Jackie?

Mr Kramer is a client of mine, so I would normally refrain from discussing anything with an outside source... but this time, you misunderstand me, Mr Seinfeld. It was you I was referring to as someone I feel good about. I like your agressive, game-solving style.

Marlene, Vanessa, Laura.... you got a problem sticking with one woman, Seinfeld?

Frank Costanza wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2017 5:53 pm ASSMAN! I'LL GIVE HIM ASSMAN!

*votes Kramer*

Now where did this vote come from? You criticize George, Elaine, Estelle... but then vote Kramer with no real explanation! Not to mention that this is a follower vote on someone I'm feeling pretty good about. Highly questionable behavior.

On another not, rereading Estelle's three posts, I find it satisfying to read them in her roleplaying voice. It works despite her admission that she doesn't know how.

Change vote: Frank

George Costanza wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2017 2:45 pm

Jackie Chiles wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2017 1:09 pm It was my understanding that George Costanza poisoned his fiancée with envelope glue. Despicable, degenerate, deplorable! He'll get my vote.

Oh come on! Be sensible.

and since when did we ever trust an attorney

That slander is barbed, blatant, belligerent! Why are you calling into question my sensibility? Have I given cause to be called unsensible? Are you a sensibility expert?

Does anyone know what the previous MP sockpuppet game was? Futurama? Who were the Mafia in that game?

It was my understanding that George Costanza poisoned his fiancée with envelope glue. Despicable, degenerate, deplorable! He'll get my vote.

You can't have a Mafia game without talking. What's a Mafia game without talking? I'll tell you what it is - a whole lotta nothing! Vapid, vacant, vacuous!

David Puddy wrote: ↑Sun Oct 08, 2017 8:12 am I'm not sorry for the double post.

You double-posting? Who told you to double post? I didn't tell you to double post. Why'd you double post? If you're gonna double-post, I wanna see double information.

I'm gonna have to get me a bowl of that mulligatawny. Mmmm-MMM! Love that Indian flavour.

George Steinbrenner wrote: ↑Sat Oct 07, 2017 10:24 pm Uncle Leo? That's a mobster's name if I've ever heard one! Big Tony, there's another. But I don't see a Big Tony here, and I don't trust this Uncle Leo. What's he hiding? Big Stein's getting nervous!

I find your assertion egregious, unscrupulous, and atrocious! A clear case of prejudicial name-alignment-assignment.