The Syndicate

Don't worry about it.

chardonnay wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:12 pm I was impressed by how quickly PSI adapted into this game when she's probably the least experienced starmen.netter. She really is a natural imo. (Also had some good reads to boot)

[mention]dunya[/mention] it seems you got a rival.

chardonnay wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:12 pm DDL in my defense had some incriminating night actions visiting the kill, then the burn victim. That was unlucky.

You do realize your entire case about me was about something I claimed about my role?

Maybe if I was scum I wouldn't have claimed something that made me look so bad?

Of course, this is wifom. But wifom goes both ways, it should also make you doubt the validity of it as evidence. I wouldn't take into consideration a free bad claim like that so easily I think.

cassowary wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 4:32 pm i am still wondering what was the deal with ddl's tea, tbh

According to dvc spoilers it prevented the person who drank it from being roleblocked.

cayvie wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 4:06 pm ddl you're super fun!

Wow thanks! You're pretty fun to play with too.

Gratz for the win, mafiosos.

Who do I need to kill to get a link to dead chat. Nanook is not online. Help.

Thanks for the game nanook! Also I hope you get better.

Voting cayvie to save myself I guess.

cayvie wrote: ↑Fri Sep 11, 2020 1:52 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 11, 2020 1:49 pm Trying to figure out what role would be burning people.

It's probably moot because nanook is randomizing the setup so hard he may have even given a waterbending a burning ability just to make it hard to figure out. But if it's possible, I think a firebender is more likely to be it.

Dov is an earthbender. Cayvie is fire nation. But cayvie's character is not a bender.

Anyone has a list of all claims made so far?
zuko = carot, VT claim
iroh = you, tea claim
ozai?
zhao = jack, VT flip
azula = UG, mafia goon

Ok back to scumreading carot.

I have been tone reading cayvie town all game, but I'm open to some arguments, tbh.

Trying to figure out what role would be burning people.

It's probably moot because nanook is randomizing the setup so hard he may have even given a waterbending a burning ability just to make it hard to figure out. But if it's possible, I think a firebender is more likely to be it.

Dov is an earthbender. Cayvie is fire nation. But cayvie's character is not a bender.

Anyone has a list of all claims made so far?

Ok so I asked the host (dunno why I didn't do that before lol) and he said people don't learn they got tea.

I'm Iroh. No idea if I'm a fruit vendor, I just give tea to people and ~something~ happens.

N1 I gave it to nutella. N2 I gave it to Jack. nutella was too dead to confirm it and I didn't feel the urge to out myself d3 by asking Jack so I dunno if he got it.

Yes I asked to the host if it kills people and he said no.

You know I'm starting to think you are town again because I think a scum would have gotten weary of all this thunderdoming eventually and would move on to another target. Maybe a less risky one. Cuz at this rate it looks like one of us is going to get yeeted. We are basically locked into each other until one goes down.

Carotenoid wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 7:24 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 7:22 pm
Carotenoid wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 6:50 pm Why do you put cassowary before cayvie?
This morning, I asked you to provide an explanation on why you read cass. You linked me to some posts. I replied saying I agreed with it. You should have gotten a notification when I did.
Yes I saw that but why are you putting yeet cassowary before yeet cayvie?

Feel like it.

Not every read needs to have an eassy to explain it.

Especially not a position in a damn list, which is something I rarely do anyway.

Carotenoid wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 6:50 pm Why do you put cassowary before cayvie?

This morning, I asked you to provide an explanation on why you read cass. You linked me to some posts. I replied saying I agreed with it. You should have gotten a notification when I did.

What exactly does the massclaim intend to accomplush again?

The only practical effect I see here is making it easier for mafia to target us.

Wait people think I'm scum with cayvie because of the tea claim?

That's... weird.

dov > you > fatmo > cass > cayvie > chard> wilgy > LC. Subject to change the next time I make a post.

Hmm looks like cass is still in 4x poe for lack of other people to put in it.

Though if those burns keep happening we should probably make smaller poes anyway.

I don't feel cayvie as scum. Like, at all.

Carotenoid wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 6:09 pm Yes so therefore from that list there was also dov and me in your PoE, thus my initial confusion

There was some point where I called possible scum and was more sure of dov and you than others.

I still am.

But I'm not going to exclude others. I'm never 100% sure. I've gotten better cases than these ones wrong, many times before. My mind is always subject to be changed.

chardonnay wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 1:28 pm Im about to head to work but i want to ask @cassowary if they could reread to game with a pool of (Carot, Fatmo, DDL, Cayvie, DoV) in mind. They usally have a good head for figuring things out in the mid game. I'll get properly chuaght up when i get back

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cayvie wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 12:56 pm that is, you noticed the cop softing her claims; potentially you (or a partner) noticed that during the night and killed PSI
Im pretty sure PSI would soft guilties with red text, not yellow. Also i feel like if she had two guilty's on deck she would've outtted becuase thats basically game at that point. DoV could be a guilty I guess. I feel like PSI's results were the two bolded reads in her last list though (Wigley, LC)

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Dragon D. Luffy What's your case on Carotte beyond feeling like she is manipulating things against you?

Besides that it's mostly tonereading/gut. But the manipulating is a pretty big dealbreaker to me. Though I'm aware being on the receiving end of it basically destroys most of the objectivity of the read. I'm also aware some of it could be a personal tendency of town carote to come up with reasons to yeet the person she wants to even if they don't make sense, just to convince others. It's still not intellectually honest, though. It bothers me that a townie reads a post of mine, nitpicks the part that makes me look bad, then nitpicks a possible interpretation that makes me look bad, quotes it and asks a leading question. She has been doing all of that stuff, over and over.

Yes I townread Wilgy after he was outed with a cop check. I don't see where the contradiction os.

And my read on cass changed a few hours ago.

Actually I don't think I used PoE in the same post but I said it a few posts later in the same page.

Point is, I made a big deal about how I had a list and you apparently ignored it.

Carotenoid wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 12:48 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 12:43 pm
Carotenoid wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 10:43 am DDL what's your plan now?
Yeet dov unless dov starts playing.

No, seriously, is there any reason on Earth to let him make to lylo?

This is poe time, there are some people I townread and some I don't, time to tackle the ones I don't.
Ok but isn't your PoE just dov and me lol?

No, it isn't actually.

In the post where I used the word "PoE", which you probably did read but are pretending not to have, I made a longer list.

Carotenoid wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 10:43 am DDL what's your plan now?

Yeet dov unless dov starts playing.

No, seriously, is there any reason on Earth to let him make to lylo?

This is poe time, there are some people I townread and some I don't, time to tackle the ones I don't.

Carotenoid wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 8:13 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 7:53 am
Carotenoid wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 7:46 am Also DDL you're not being *tinfoilled* because there was never compelling reasons to lock you town or whatsoever.
Semantics.
aw I had an English teacher with really funny memes about the importance of stuff like semantics but I don't remember them

But the point is: it matters because it doesn't mean the same thing. When you say you're being tinfoiled you're implying then you should be a consensus ~lock~ town. You're challenging our suspicions of you by implying that you're an evident townie, which is not really the case.

The majority of the players in this game have been calling me at least lean town so far. Which is probably the main reason I'm still alive.

What I'm saying is that this kind of goodwill happens every game and it usually ends at the exact same time (lylo). I give away a feeling of honesty that people like, but have a certain chaotic behavior that people are suspicious about and give them a lingering suspicion about me. Eventually they decide they gotta test that suspicion before the game ends. GG.

Carotenoid wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 7:43 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 6:45 am Can someone link me to the post where you people decided cass is locktown cuz I ain't searching for it either
https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... 19#p660619
https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... 01#p661101

Ok I'll take that especially the first one.

Replace cass with fatmo in my poe then.

Carotenoid wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 7:46 am Also DDL you're not being *tinfoilled* because there was never compelling reasons to lock you town or whatsoever.

Semantics.

Carotenoid wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 7:41 am Why do you consider the push on Neutron rather than Jiwon townie? From my POV since they were both town scum always try to yeet the harder to yeet later player first (so in this case DJ, not Jiwon). DDL not wanting to yeet Jiwon D1 because it's "too easy" and wanting to "try harder" (iirc) sounds kinda dissonant with the recent always yeet dov because he's not playing. Like, in a vacuum I don't have a problem with this kind of policy vote but it seems weird to me that he didn't want to go there on D1 but is going there with conviction here for dov. (idk if it's clear but yeah bcwohuouerj)

Again with the manipulation.

How do you actually out "Day 1" in your sentence but conveniently forget to refer to it later in the argument?

Yeeting an inactive in day 1 is too easy. Yeeting an inactive at some point is a necessity. This should be obvious.

Thing is, I only ever get yeeted as town in this site if it's either the final day phase or if I am really disconnected to the game (usually because of real life). There are probably exceptions but they are so rare I don't remember.

The later is not the case here, so I think we are going to the former. Everyone will keep spinning around me until it's lylo and it only takes one townie giving in to their game long tinfoil for we to lose the game.

So what about we change it and everybody who is tinfoiling me tries to vote me now? I feel like I'm more likely to survive the yeet attempt that way. I'm not sure if I ever won a lylo as town in this site

Can someone link me to the post where you people decided cass is locktown cuz I ain't searching for it either

If you guys want to yeet me so much then do it. So much pussyfooting going on.

Man you attacking me for all the things carotte has attacked me before makes me so zzzzzzz

I ain'r defending myself against that crap.

chardonnay wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:04 pm Aren't we technically in D4 rn? lol

D1 flip was Jiwon. D2 was the mod kills. D3 was Marcher.

Thread titles will be updated when the list of dead players is updated which is also when the post count limits are updated.

Anyway dov is not playing the game and I don't think he deserves to live till endgame unless he plays the game.

Someone convince me I'm wrong.

[VOTE: dov] aubergine

WIlgy and LC were 100% green checked the bold is too obvious. The only thing you can tinfoil is godfather abilities.

Carotenoid wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 6:18 pm Cayvie: Okay, I'll look into it later!

Hey Wilgy can you explain your cayvie read please?

I'm considering chardonnay - Long Con - Wilgy - cassowary as lock town and never touching it.
It leaves me cayvie - DDL - Fatmo - dov to sort today. I think I want to start fresh and take the time to relook at them and their interactions more precisely.

Why is cass even lock town?

But they didn't matter here cuz Psine was an earthbender and all airbenders are dead.

Carotenoid wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 6:05 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 6:03 pm
cayvie wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 6:02 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 6:00 pm I was about to say the setup might have a godfather but nanook randomized the roles so it probably doesn't unless he considered the possibility of a town godfather (or maybe a role that always fools investigations on whatever side it is? Could be).

I don't wanna vote based on this tinfoil until the endgame, though. For now I'm gonna stay clear off Wilgy/LC.
lmao a role that's godfather if mafia and miller if town

i think that would be a little bastard
I'm saying it because a cop in a small setup like this is borderline OP if mafia doesn't have a godfather.
There's also the elements thing going on, in MJ's rolecard it precised that elements didn't matter so I guess it mattered for PSINE and that she got lucky.

Wow I totally forgot the element thing.

cayvie wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 6:04 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 6:02 pm Hey @cayvie did you receive my tea?
not that i'm aware of

Hmm

Ok I gave you tea last night but I have no idea what it does.

Poisoner is likely mafia because if they weren't they would be poisoning marcher or something.

Unless it's a really overconfident townie but no one here seems to fit that description imo.

cayvie wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 6:02 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 6:00 pm I was about to say the setup might have a godfather but nanook randomized the roles so it probably doesn't unless he considered the possibility of a town godfather (or maybe a role that always fools investigations on whatever side it is? Could be).

I don't wanna vote based on this tinfoil until the endgame, though. For now I'm gonna stay clear off Wilgy/LC.
lmao a role that's godfather if mafia and miller if town

i think that would be a little bastard

I'm saying it because a cop in a small setup like this is borderline OP if mafia doesn't have a godfather.

Hey [mention]cayvie[/mention] did you receive my tea?

I was about to say the setup might have a godfather but nanook randomized the roles so it probably doesn't unless he considered the possibility of a town godfather (or maybe a role that always fools investigations on whatever side it is? Could be).

I don't wanna vote based on this tinfoil until the endgame, though. For now I'm gonna stay clear off Wilgy/LC.

Oh didn't see the bold.

You are right.

UNVOTE

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 4:24 pm Blind Sight: You may be blind, but you can see better than just about anyone. You’re also a human lie detector—every night you can target someone and determine their alignment. You are town, and you win when all the mafia are dead.

PSINightmareEmpower wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 3:54 pm Legacy reads in case I die:

Chardonnay
Long Con
DrWilgy
Dragon D. Luffy
Cayvie
Cassowary
Fatmo
Carotenoid
Dov

[VOTE: dov] aubergine

See you next day phase!

chardonnay wrote: ↑Tue Sep 08, 2020 11:44 pm Wigly's inclination to not pay v much attion to the game thread to the point it feels like he's never fully in the loop with what's going on is so obtusely anti-town I feel like experienced scum at least try to act like their following the game in a meaningful capacity. Espesally coming in not realizing things like Marcher using their gladiator power limiting whose voteable. It at least feels like scum would have talked about "what should marcher do today, and what should we do today" leading up until this point. Unless Wigly just decided to play like this intentionally, or fake it, which I see as unlikely.

I have had a bad habit in the past of town reading abrasive/obtrusive/arrogant behavior as occcams razor- coming from town. SO if anybody hard disagrees here pls let me know.

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DoV I see having scumy potential due to his avoidance of pressure, and ignoring other players attempts to draw him out. It seem like he's actively trying to have little impact on the game state, which is not a townie mindset.

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Pre-edit

THank you Cayvie, thing is that I did had a sorta similar feeling as PSI coming into D3. Nuetron flipped town, and I wasn't 100% sure Marcher was the right flip anymore. So while I acknowledge that it could be PSI!scum prospecting for a option thats not her buddy, I feel obligated to say it could also be unsure townie pretty easily.

Wilgy I think kind of plays that way regardless of alignment. He doesn't do that every game, but when he does, it's not his role card that dictates his level of activity I'm afraid.

Ok so my PoE is

Dov
Wilgy
Cass
Carotte

Not necessarily in this order and subject to change at whim.

Actually sorry.

4 names not 2. Since we have 4 yeets.

So if you can townread everyone but 4 and be right, you're golden.

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