The Syndicate

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 12:40 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 2:38 am[insert my analysis of speedchuck's entry posts here]

I don't believe this but I believe you believe this.

He opposed my rationale in what was definitely not a meaningful or thorough analysis. He knows it's wrong.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 12:58 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 12:51 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 12:47 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 12:46 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 12:40 pmI don't believe this but I believe you believe this.

What precisely drives your belief in my belief?

The time investment. It's not much of a joke if you don't actually believe it.

wot wood u say m8 if I told you 'at moi only real ping of the game so far 'as come from speedchuck?

I would say your accent is horrendous. Is it because Speedchuck's accent is worse? Or the Nutella push? I think it's the Nutella push.

He was already mindful of reasons why speedchuck might be viewed with suspicion, but he didn't say it himself until I provided the platform.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 8:39 pmScumread - Speed for buddying Jay and the bleh push on Nutella.

This reads does not read authentically to me.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:25 am Leaving JJJ off my list because that's just boring.

Townreads: Sloonei, Elohcin

Scumreads: Nova, JoH

He crammed Jack in as a scum read next to a more controversial and eye-grabbing name.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:44 amI don't buy that Jack actually thinks I've buddied Jay. Fake reason. Bleg.

This reads no better than Jack's accusation did.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 11:57 am"Hot damn, I already have a townread"
"JJJ is acting like town JJJ"
"I explain how JJJ is acting like town JJJ"

I... don't think so?

Jack lobbed up a big juicy pile of quotes with the implication "you're being a hypocrite", and speedchuck wimpered this ellipsis/question mark timidness.

Jack and speedchuck are both mafia.

I have some thoughts about your assertions of nova buddying me, speedchuck, but I want him to respond before I do.

What is nova’s “normal play”?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:44 amNova however is buddying the everlovin' hecking bejeezus out of JJJ.

Show me.

Scum reads too, velocitycharles

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:25 am Leaving JJJ off my list because that's just boring.

Townreads: Sloonei, Elohcin

Scumreads: Nova, JoH

I’d like to hear more about all of those.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:19 amTell me more about this chucker of speed.

On my phone now so I’ll drop some bullets:

~ When he involved himself in the busy thread I wasn’t left feeling any impression (and neutrality is a negative for him to me).

~ His suspicion of you reads kinda fake right now.

~ His initial response to my suspicion was less than weak.

~ He isn’t holding up the standard we’ve set for the game pace, and slackchuck isn’t getting a break.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 2:46 am Like that time Epi did that thing in the game where we were all ice cream and no one believed me no matter how much I screamed.

I wanted to lynch him Sloonei! I did, I did! But then they killed me.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 2:44 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 2:38 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 2:37 amB

Dig in!

I already did. Something smelled fishy when I was catching up. I sensed a lot of energy moving in one direction coming from a lot of folks, but then Jack’s posts did not seem to be in sync with that energy. He seemed to be moving against it.

Is this what the crystals and incense tell you?

(I don't disagree. It's a vague description, but it resonates with me anyway. Something feels off there. I get a similar impression to a greater degree from speedchuck.)

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 2:37 amB

Dig in!

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 2:35 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 2:31 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 2:12 am [VOTE: Jack O’Farts] aubergine

In solidarity with my brother Bob from the colonies.

Why?

I’m not sure.

Is that the "I guess I'll place a vote wherever" kind of not sure, or the "I find Jack suspicious but would struggle to articulate why" kind of not sure?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 2:12 am [VOTE: Jack O’Farts] aubergine

In solidarity with my brother Bob from the colonies.

Why?

we got grad school jokes

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 2:25 amThis is all purely hypothetical of course. My office is merely to dispute the GUT M proposal.

I'll see you at the next North American Conference of Mafia Theory, buddy.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 2:19 amAhh I was thinking of his assertion that Nova's first post about sabie was a joke.

I see. Yes that's a goofy moment for the Jack o' lantern. Given that nova explained the suspicion (and rendered it clearly a serious one) and Jack apparently missed that or interpreted it as an expansion of the joke (eh?) it implies Jack was only hardly reading the entry material -- not ideal.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 2:10 amThe Grand Unified Theory of Mafia (GUT M) is whacke because a mafia member will tout any suspicion that might remotely smell viable in an early game situation when finding themself in an environment which is already otherwise filled with kooky postulations. One must look the part.

Bob from the colonies over here is not producing an original idea, but he is running with an independent suspicion of the player most invulnerable to suspicion. No harm can come of it and he appears bold and open-minded for floating it. I will maintain a healthy skepticism.

Bleh. Whaddya mean "no harm can come of it"?

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 2:13 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 1:23 am

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 1:18 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 12:18 am nutella, whaddya think of leetic?

I think he's town.

And his not having played with me is very relevant, when he is commenting on my tone.

Why do you hate Jack?

I believe there was a comment related to sabie that set me off and I haven't liked anything he's said since (or before, probably).

Maybe you could find it for me?

If anyone takes this seriously, it's their own fault. I'm in the lab at 1:00 AM, help me.

I have precise calculations of Sloonei's alignment. Stand by.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 1:43 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 1:39 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 1:38 amThis thesis is whacke.

What is your read on colonialbob?

Processing data, 37%.

Keep at it, I will be right here. I'm actually calculating your alignment presently.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 1:38 amThis thesis is whacke.

What is your read on colonialbob?

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 1:18 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 12:18 am nutella, whaddya think of leetic?

I think he's town.

And his not having played with me is very relevant, when he is commenting on my tone.

Why do you hate Jack?

It's not my favorite nutella post. "Have you played with me before" is bleh

[mention]nutella[/mention], whaddya think of leetic?

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 10:58 pm 27 minutes since the last post

Horrendous.

sabie12 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 10:04 pm Why is nova voting me? With no explanation no less. Uncool man.
Sloonei isn't acting like his usual self. Typically he has mile long posts.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 3:08 amYou're putting me on the spot here.

It stroke me as weirdly succinct on first read, and I compared it to some of her entry posts in previous games. I have no data on baddie Sabie, however her Civilian self usually starts the game with some chatter. She feels comfortable, and appears easy going.

She comes offcold here, or timid I'd say. Right to the point. I don't care much as well for the general compliment, and the addition of an emoji. Probably an attempt at appearing more friendly.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 2:39 pm

sabie12 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 2:37 pm Him and nova are lovers apparently or teammates

Can't we be just two townies trying to solve the game?

I mean we don't even share the same read on you, I don't know why you keep throwing shade our way and grouping us together as an evil plotting duo.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 3:50 pm

sabie12 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 10:19 am Haha you guys trying to accuse me because I said hi its gonna be a good group? I didn't have any chatter because no one was on to chat with when I was here. My accusation is nova and Jay must be teammates trying to stir the pot together and get all the suspicions off of them.

I'd like to come back to this. When, and what did Jay accuse you of? He simply asked me to expand my thoughts on you. He has you as green in his rainbow list.

Also, what do you mean by "get all the suspicions off of them"? Has there been any suspicion on any of us to begin with at that time?

Do you actually believe that we are scum teammates?

[mention]novaselinenever[/mention], you should say more in response to [mention]leetic[/mention]'s suspicions.

sabie12 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 10:04 pm Why is nova voting me? With no explanation no less. Uncool man.
Sloonei isn't acting like his usual self. Typically he has mile long posts.

Would you expect Sloonei to have long posts under the present circumstances as a civilian?

Because everyone likes shiny objects:

Gun-to-head of sorts: has this player at any point said something that I think looks trustworthy?

AudreyTheTattleTail - yes
colonialbob - yes
Elohcin - yes
Jackofhearts2005 - no
leetic - yes
Lunalee - no
novaselinenever - yes
nutella - yes
reywaS - yes
sabie12 - no
Sloonei - no
speedchuck - no

I experienced some dissonance with sabie, who I initially thought looked genuine enough in her responses to suspicion -- but now I am left feeling less inspired. I don't know her stances on things.

If at any point someone is confused about a confident civilian read I put into the thread, please ask for clarification. These are serious reads, and I am feeling quite good about the progression of process of elimination right now.

Civilian read on leetic solidified. Keep 'em coming.

rey looks good now. Y’all do things and we’ll be solved by sundown.

AudreyTheTattletail wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 8:48 pm i promise you nutella is a were wolf otherwise why would she use lots of bad words in a small sentense if she's not a were wolf well than who else could be seriously.

Hi Audrey!

[mention]nutella[/mention]

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 8:38 pm Be the change you want to see in the world

I did a whole rainbow.

Good: bob, nova

Bad: Sloonei, speedchuck

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 8:19 pmElohcin - Mostly null, a bit of a town lean. He seems to be posting his thoughts a little and avoid minor drama. Still, hasn't done too much.

Thanks for the reads, leetic. Can you expand a little on what you observed from Elohcin that led you to the conclusion I highlighted? Also, she's a she (just FYI ).

I want to make certain everyone is aware of this in case there was any breezing through the rules:

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Feb 17, 2019 6:55 pm1. This is a semi-open setup. Role claiming is illegal. Info-dumping is illegal. If I think that you have done either or even role-hinted, you will be lynched that Day phase. This is a game about cautionary tales. Don't become a cautionary tale.

I do have plans for this, so I'd appreciate total participation.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 7:10 pm Let's do an exercise! Yay!

I would like everyone to name two civilian reads and two suspects. Please and thank you for your efforts toward a civilian victory.

reywaS wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 7:39 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 7:38 pm

reywaS wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 7:36 pm i dismiss it because it makes 3 straight games now where she brings this lame type suspicion of me to the table. She was bad in vanilla. I think she was good in the last one. I was/am civ in all 3. Just sayin...it grows lame after a while.

What do you make of her motivations in this game?

too soon to tell. Could be pot stirring for a read. Could be shit posting for baddie's sake. I can't tell.

I shuffled through her posts about you in Vanilla Mafia and the Socky Awards game, and I couldn't quite find evidence that her suspicions were driven by your humor. It's all interpretive, so you might have felt that was the source of her suspicion anyway. Can you recall something specific she did or said in either game that you feel is happening similarly in this game? Don't go spending time doing an archaeological dig if you can't remember.

reywaS wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 7:36 pm i dismiss it because it makes 3 straight games now where she brings this lame type suspicion of me to the table. She was bad in vanilla. I think she was good in the last one. I was/am civ in all 3. Just sayin...it grows lame after a while.

What do you make of her motivations in this game?

reywaS wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 7:32 pm im offended you call them uninspired tbh

I don't feel much inspiration when you dismiss nutella's suspicion as being driven by your sense of humor (particularly when it doesn't provide me with any read of yours on nutella herself apart from an implied trust -- as it must be for her to suspect you wrongly).

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 9:42 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 2:28 am

leetic wrote: ↑Sun Feb 17, 2019 8:23 pm Confirming that I have my role

Stiff obligatory check in. Bad.

Well, that is just how we do things where I'm from.

I will extract what I can from leetic to this point. My rainbow posture for him was light green, and it was because I appreciated the "okay that's nice but screw off" attitude of this response.

reywaS wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 7:30 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 7:19 pm

reywaS wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 7:16 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 2:17 pm It wasn't like the Mac post though. It was made to look more serious at least.

you can keep suspecting me for my sense of humor. One of these days you'll be right. lol You know the saying about broken clocks and whatnot.

I am getting the impression based on this uninspired response to nutella's poop and your purpleface spam at me earlier that we might have arrived at one of those two moments per day in which the clock is correct.

ya think?

I am, as they say, getting the impression.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 7:26 pm Tfw the game is solved before day 1 has started

That's we're about here in Shockheaded Civiliantown. It's what we were about in DFS Village where we enjoyed unprecedented success. While that standard may not always be attainable, we must strive for greatness anyway to taste the sweet nectar of victory.

Participation just makes me heart swell, and it puts me in such a lovely mood.

reywaS wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 7:16 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 2:17 pm It wasn't like the Mac post though. It was made to look more serious at least.

you can keep suspecting me for my sense of humor. One of these days you'll be right. lol You know the saying about broken clocks and whatnot.

I am getting the impression based on this uninspired response to nutella's poop and your purpleface spam at me earlier that we might have arrived at one of those two moments per day in which the clock is correct.

Let's do an exercise! Yay!

I would like everyone to name two civilian reads and two suspects. Please and thank you for your efforts toward a civilian victory.