Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 12, 2018 12:25 pm
How mad would Pikachu be if we didn't even try to find mafia and just let them have all the votes and then when questioned were like "Well, you guys seemed to be doing just fine on your own."
I won’t spill if you won’t
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 12, 2018 11:38 am
I like Sloonei's Marmot case, here.
[quote=Sloonei post_id=420868 time=<a href="tel:1520791501">1520791501</a> user_id=405]
My first major concern with Marmot was that he was making empty prods of players to appear as a driving force in the game, but he never followed up on these prods at all. Here's a couple early examples:
[quote=Marmot post_id=414476 time=<a href="tel:1519579101">1519579101</a> user_id=288]
All of them.
Why do you have so many folks colored at such an early juncture in the game?

[quote=Marmot post_id=414638 time=<a href="tel:1519591575">1519591575</a> user_id=288]
[quote=sig post_id=414484 time=<a href="tel:1519581129">1519581129</a> user_id=411]
I do like that Sloonie is posting and trying to get people talking, but as of right now I just don't think there's much to talk about. However, I'd put him down as a light civ read.
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What do you think will get people talking?
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Followed two hours later with this:
[quote=Marmot post_id=414734 time=<a href="tel:1519598793">1519598793</a> user_id=288]
Haha, I forgot to come back and move my vote.

[/quote]And no visible attempt anywhere to do anything with the questions he had asked previously, giving me reason to doubt that he cared at all about his own line of investigation.
The first time I remember stating suspicion against him, and his response was to take cover behind his meta:
[quote=Marmot post_id=416848 time=<a href="tel:1520010883">1520010883</a> user_id=288]
[quote=Sloonei post_id=416845 time=<a href="tel:1520010374">1520010374</a> user_id=405]
@Marmot has not made a single post that I can't see coming from a mafia member. That's not a very good look. I also don't really know where he stands on anything. He just keeps self-voting and making small observations here and there.
[/quote]
Have you met me?
tries to motivate himself to play mafia, but this place smells like old shrimp
[/quote]Uninspiring.
Here's another collection of mid-game posts where he seems to be trying to check off the "Active participant" box without really producing much:
[quote=Marmot post_id=417108 time=<a href="tel:1520095453">1520095453</a> user_id=288]
[VOTE:
Scotty] aubergine
If what you muse about is correct Scotty, that means you have a higher likelihood of being anti-town than any other player in this thread.
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[quote=Marmot post_id=417111 time=<a href="tel:1520096371">1520096371</a> user_id=288]
Boomslang, who're you voting for today?
Why do you require a read on yourself from nijuu?
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[quote=Marmot post_id=417113 time=<a href="tel:1520096631">1520096631</a> user_id=288]
@insertnamehere where you at? I haven't seen a post from you yet today, and you even wrote a song yesterday.
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[quote=Marmot post_id=417118 time=<a href="tel:1520097740">1520097740</a> user_id=288]
I'll comment that these folks haven't posted yet today, and we've < 6 hours left.
@DrWilgy
@insertnamehere
@nijuukyugou
@sig
Marmot attempts to pump everyone up like he's JaggedJimmyJay
This is the Game of Champions folks! Let's get it together. Pretend that someone shit in your cornflakes or something.
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Maybe it's unfair of me to label them as such, but these all feel like hollow prods to me. I don't see him doing much with the responses he gets and they don't feel particularly directed toward anything.
If there's a specific incident I take issue with, it was this small exchange the two of us had a few days ago (I've wrapped the whole thing in quote brackets for visual appeal):
[quote=Marmot post_id=415997 time=<a href="tel:1519837851">1519837851</a> user_id=288]
[quote=Sloonei post_id=415681 time=<a href="tel:1519765225">1519765225</a> user_id=405]
This is dumb. Stop suspecting me.
[VOTE:
Sloonei] aubergine
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Places a joking vote on me. Not furreal.
[quote=Marmot post_id=416015 time=<a href="tel:1519838916">1519838916</a> user_id=288]
[quote=Sloonei post_id=416011 time=<a href="tel:1519838605">1519838605</a> user_id=405]
[quote=Marmot post_id=415997 time=<a href="tel:1519837851">1519837851</a> user_id=288]
[quote=Sloonei post_id=415681 time=<a href="tel:1519765225">1519765225</a> user_id=405]
This is dumb. Stop suspecting me.
[/quote]
[VOTE:
Sloonei] aubergine
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Do you actually suspect me?
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No. The above vote is a joke.
[/quote]I asked directly whether or not he actually suspected me. "No" was his answer. Marmot does not suspect me. Noted.
So I followed up:
[quote=Marmot post_id=416222 time=<a href="tel:1519856925">1519856925</a> user_id=288]
[quote=Sloonei post_id=416175 time=<a href="tel:1519853362">1519853362</a> user_id=405]
Marmot, you placed a joke vote on me and then removed it. This leads me to believe you think I'm town. Why?
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Why would this lead you to believe that I think you're civilian.
This and that are not the same thing.
[/quote]I was lead to believe that you think I am civilian because you stated "no" when asked if you suspect me. Sure you can say I'm a null read. But I refuse to accept that at the juncture of the game in which this exchange took place, especially when I have ~142 posts. "No" suspicion for this player should indicate a town read, but Marmot won't commit to that stance. I'm really just trying to get him to follow up on the read he seemed to hint at earlier, but he refuses to do so.
[quote=Marmot post_id=416308 time=<a href="tel:1519864005">1519864005</a> user_id=288]
[quote=Sloonei post_id=416228 time=<a href="tel:1519857108">1519857108</a> user_id=405]
[quote=Marmot post_id=416222 time=<a href="tel:1519856925">1519856925</a> user_id=288]
[quote=Sloonei post_id=416175 time=<a href="tel:1519853362">1519853362</a> user_id=405]
Marmot, you placed a joke vote on me and then removed it. This leads me to believe you think I'm town. Why?
[/quote]
Why would this lead you to believe that I think you're civilian.
This and that are not the same thing.
Linki: Oops, got distracted by work. Meant to post this a while ago.
[/quote]
You had a chance to vote for me but did not. What is your read of me?
[/quote]
Currently, I think you're abstracting my vote for you into something bigger. I voted for you as a joke. That's it. I also don't understand what you mean by "I had a chance to vote for you". You're really reaching on this one.
[/quote]I don't think I was reaching seeing as I was directly responding to a read you had hinted at a few minutes earlier. This seems like the marmot trying to weasel out of a read.[/quote]
If I were to articulate my suspicion of Marmot in one word, it would be
listless. It feels like he's going through the motions of being a townie, but without the direction or the
emotion of a player who is genuinely trying to solve the game.
Vote Marmot, 2018.
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But I'm not a fan of this.
[quote=Scotty post_id=420897 time=<a href="tel:1520794623">1520794623</a> user_id=410]
Ok.
To play devil’s advocate though, you also basically took cover under your meta for being a townie.
And wait a tic- how is it that Marmot is now your top scumread for a few days? I feel like you’ve flitted around from one candidate to another every day, and haven’t held any firm beliefs carried over after each lynch. Until Marmot.
And frankly, I’m not seeing it. He could be bad, yes. But what you’re saying about his posts can be attributed to many players on this tribe.
Why haven’t mafia tried to kill you yet? I mean they very well could have on N4, but if I were mafia I would have wanted to kill you in the 1st few cycles with how much you’ve been posting and infusing the thread.
But why haven’t you been NK’d yet?

[/quote]
Tell me about the many players who are going through the motions.
Name a player that the "why haven't you been NK'd yet" accusation does not apply to. The mafia has eliminated zero players.
[/quote]
I don’t feel like telling more of wallflowering people. They’re self explanatory.
And I’m specifically talking about Sloonei not being NK’d because, tbh, I think he’s been looking the towniest in terms of engagement with the thread. Next to you, I’d rank him pretty high on my town list. It just got me thinking is all.