The Syndicate

Well done town! Good effort all around

Also find it particularly ironic that I am currently voting for pyxxy with my POE voting with me

Well it has been a hot second since I was yeeted D1

I gotta go to work so will miss eod in 45 min, so if I go over:

Legacy: please kill pyxxy next. Otherwise my POE is Kay/Wilgy/jack

nothing I have done has been performative (except maybe some long winded analogies). I stand by my reads!
I did what I could to get people talking so at least we can still win it. Gl town

Oh! And Porscha, I did peruse a good chunk of your mafia game you listed and while I has a few similarities, there’s a tryharding that feels very different than how i envisioned your scum game from when i saw it like a year ago. So Townlean atm, but still room to swing back into mafia land

My top two town reads and it feels like they’re gaslighting me.

What can ya do

Roxy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 11, 2025 10:50 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 6:38 pm [
I appreciate the fleshed out reasoning! Definitely completely different vibe from your first post.

Your edge in this response feels closer to town Roxy

RE: hunt more for town vs bad; I think that’s a bit of a misrepresentation as I think I think I probably have a more balanced approach. Some things stick out and some things feel towny and I approach those as I see em

The reasoning was not "fleshed out" you just failed to actually read my post which I pointed out with my red reply.

I get bad heebee jeebee's from your sudden about face inre: my slot.

Just bc I used a few curse words or got mean to make you read what I posted? I literally did not change any read nor add to them except for Mac's.

This game feels like you just toss crap about and see what might fly. Not standing by what you post and doing these about faces inre: to your reads. Suddenly I went from being baddie and getting your vote to the top of your town list.

Yes I about-faced. The way you speak isn’t all about throwing curse words around. Looking at Leporidae mafia, you did so as well.

But your tone and retaliation to my objections is completely different in how you handled yourself in past wolf games! If I’m wrong then color me pennandteller’s FOOLED.

“This game feels like you just toss crap about and see what might fly. Not standing by what you post and doing these about faces inre: to your reads.”
Well that’s an absolute misrepresentation of my game. I’m actively throwing stuff out for sure- I have like THREE TIMES the other highest poster (and that definitely doesn’t make me town, because I can do that as wolf) but I don’t know shit so of course I’m throwing a lot out and getting vibe checks.

If a doctor told you that your mild cough is from cancer and puts you on chemo treatments, but then realizes after testing it’s just allergies, you’re not gonna say ‘oh no, that’s ok. I’ll do the chemo’

Like that’s ridiculous

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Apr 11, 2025 1:37 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 11:53 pm

KayJayQueue wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 11:47 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 09, 2025 3:23 am

gims wrote: ↑Tue Apr 08, 2025 6:30 amomg hiiii

how do I kill this person

also hi I'm mac

This is the post that I initially townleaned Mac for but since then I’ve liked their posting so I’m happy with the read now that I feels it’s backed up with more than just a day 0 post that could’ve been easily ignored.

Ohhh gotcha, yeah that’s a good mac post

like? why do you think that scotty? lol

Because the hilarity of Mac outright wanting to kill the new guy is a good one to hang your hat on

lol

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Apr 11, 2025 1:35 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Apr 11, 2025 1:33 am

KayJayQueue wrote: ↑Fri Apr 11, 2025 1:08 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Apr 11, 2025 1:03 am

KayJayQueue wrote: ↑Fri Apr 11, 2025 12:25 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 11:46 pm It just feels like you’re handling cereal with an oven mitt.

This is a great metaphor for my anxiety btw thanks for noticing lol I’m a very paranoid, anxious person when trying to solve mafia games (well the anxiety is just lifestyle at this point but it affects how I play so I’ve just learned to work with it lol)

And if you need more proof - just look at how often I use the millennial “lol” (this gets pointed out to me way too often but yet, I can’t seem to help it)

Wait. Lol is a millennial thing?

Does the new gen not know how to laugh?

The “millennial lol” is when it’s used more like punctuation than an expression of genuine laughter because *anxiety* (lol)

frfr

today at my job the kids annointed one of them ‘The Rizzler’ and taped a picture labeled ‘Skibbidi Ohio’ to his face. He had a scepter and he kept pointing it at the other kids and ‘unaliving’ them.

We couldn’t be farther from lol if we tried

i just played a witch hunt game on MU and a player's first posts about me were that he went and checked a town and mafia game for how much I used "lol" in my posts cuz he thought i was over using it in that game

That’s kinda what I do. Some people have a natural cadence and vernacular that comes out when they’re free balling vs woofin

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Apr 11, 2025 1:34 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Apr 11, 2025 1:29 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 11, 2025 1:06 am I'm re-evaluating with Scotty town

LC pushing Scotty now probs wrong town push

MR and Jack sheeping Scotty resolve steeled by my Scotty read and LCs

Passivity townie on likes of Roxy, Porscha

Scotty maybe just correct on Pyxxy

Talk to me about porscha’s townie passivity. Because I don’t associate passivity with town porscha

you sure? i'm laughing at my last joke

I’m not even sure if I flossed tonight before getting into bed.

So no

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Apr 11, 2025 1:29 am damn. i be randing a lot of town rands lately

lol

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Apr 11, 2025 1:27 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 7:25 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 3:09 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 10:35 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 1:12 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Apr 09, 2025 11:47 pm General vibes:

Town:
Long Con

Townlean:
Wilgy
Jack
gims
Mac
Kay

Scumlean:
falcon
Pyxxy
TSP

Bad:
Porscha

Come back to the dragon romp3:
Roxy
Radishes (especially you, mister ‘I have some town leans but I’m not gonna talk about them’)
Porscha (you had a bouncy, happy-go-lucky check-in that makes me wary. Come on back)

how the hell does that make you scumread me LM AO

One of these days, I’m gonna pick up on your behavior a couple years ago where you lolcatted on D1, was yeeted, and flipped wolf. The more you post, the better I will feel about my read of you. But yeah, I associate your little bunny foofoo with you being bad

lol if i felt uptight and stiff you'd call me wolfy too... be honest :3

maaaaaybe

But really I use your mafia game of Apathy mafia as a guidepost. Which I guess I probably shouldn't, as that was like 43 years ago now

I forgot, have you been mafia in the past few months? Can't remember if you linked that game in GoC or not. I know someone did, was that you?

uuuh i think it was cape

this is my most recent wolf rand with a noob partner and another partner who couldnt be assed to try and I was pretty busy the first couple days https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/50526

Ohhh right that was cape.

Thank you for this- I’ll peruse tomorrow

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Apr 11, 2025 1:16 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 1:40 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Apr 08, 2025 2:04 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Apr 08, 2025 1:38 am ok rate how much you like this pokemon intro post:

she meow on my stic

I give it 4 out of 10 rare candies

How bout this one:

nice weedle

Sawk Indeedeez nuts

8/10 for double joke in there

OMG I MISSED THE INDEEDEE one.

Wilgy locktown

KayJayQueue wrote: ↑Fri Apr 11, 2025 1:08 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Apr 11, 2025 1:03 am

KayJayQueue wrote: ↑Fri Apr 11, 2025 12:25 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 11:46 pm It just feels like you’re handling cereal with an oven mitt.

This is a great metaphor for my anxiety btw thanks for noticing lol I’m a very paranoid, anxious person when trying to solve mafia games (well the anxiety is just lifestyle at this point but it affects how I play so I’ve just learned to work with it lol)

And if you need more proof - just look at how often I use the millennial “lol” (this gets pointed out to me way too often but yet, I can’t seem to help it)

Wait. Lol is a millennial thing?

Does the new gen not know how to laugh?

The “millennial lol” is when it’s used more like punctuation than an expression of genuine laughter because *anxiety* (lol)

frfr

today at my job the kids annointed one of them ‘The Rizzler’ and taped a picture labeled ‘Skibbidi Ohio’ to his face. He had a scepter and he kept pointing it at the other kids and ‘unaliving’ them.

We couldn’t be farther from lol if we tried

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 11, 2025 1:06 am I'm re-evaluating with Scotty town

LC pushing Scotty now probs wrong town push

MR and Jack sheeping Scotty resolve steeled by my Scotty read and LCs

Passivity townie on likes of Roxy, Porscha

Scotty maybe just correct on Pyxxy

Talk to me about porscha’s townie passivity. Because I don’t associate passivity with town porscha

KayJayQueue wrote: ↑Fri Apr 11, 2025 1:05 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Apr 11, 2025 12:59 am
Ok so if I were to placed on a metaphorical sliding scale, the inference is that you have me as a light town read. Is that fair?

Correct. I don’t feel strongly enough about the lean to move it up any but that’s purely because of paranoia at this point. I’ll say I WANT to townread you for a few reasons and there are posts of yours I’ve liked but I have things in the back of my head holding me back. However, I don’t know how logical I’m being because the lack of familiarity with not only you but those that are pushing against you is making it a bit hard for me to parse.

I appreciate this take. Your paranoia is like a beacon- I will say I tend to suspect people that pussyfoot around commitment to reads- but if this is how you usually operate early, I’m down to give you that berth

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 11, 2025 1:04 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 6:44 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 1:29 pm I hate the Gims/Scotty push on Roxy. Hate it to my core.

huh.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 1:35 pm [VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

Fascinating.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 1:36 pm [VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

Hee ho

who you callin a ho

Pretty lacking votes, but I don’t hate the lack of justification in Jack and the absolute madman sheeping of MR. Probably towny votes?

your posts since my spree have been way townier

jack and radish are not towny

Why are they not towny?

KayJayQueue wrote: ↑Fri Apr 11, 2025 12:25 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 11:46 pm It just feels like you’re handling cereal with an oven mitt.

This is a great metaphor for my anxiety btw thanks for noticing lol I’m a very paranoid, anxious person when trying to solve mafia games (well the anxiety is just lifestyle at this point but it affects how I play so I’ve just learned to work with it lol)

And if you need more proof - just look at how often I use the millennial “lol” (this gets pointed out to me way too often but yet, I can’t seem to help it)

Wait. Lol is a millennial thing?

Does the new gen not know how to laugh?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 11, 2025 12:59 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 10:45 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 9:51 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Apr 09, 2025 8:21 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 09, 2025 2:53 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 09, 2025 2:40 pm [VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine

violence it is

[VOTE: Pyx] aubergine

I hate that I love this OMGUS.

Townlean

these two are my top scumreads

You think they’re just immediately distancing?
That seems a strange strategy

meant u and Wilgy

Yeah, I course corrected and realized after the fact.

Wilgy is not on my towny list, and unfortunately it doesn’t sound like he’s gonna be very forthcoming with posts this phase, so I feel like what we see is what we got for the day

KayJayQueue wrote: ↑Fri Apr 11, 2025 12:19 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Apr 11, 2025 12:00 am

KayJayQueue wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 11:50 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 11:46 pm

KayJayQueue wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 10:17 pm Scotty I think you are interpreting my “turnaround” on you the wrong way. Something was brought up that I literally hadn’t thought about and it made me feel kind of stupid for latching immediately onto something that felt good/townie (most likely because of a personal bias as it was the only person, gims, I could give any relevant input on) but in the end I had to be honest and say that I had to take back that initial read. It doesn’t automatically mean I think you’re scum, it just means I had to reassess. I was owning up to my read being too hasty but if I thought you were scum, I’d have voted you. I’ve only voted one person at this point.

Ok, hmm. It felt in my readback that you were actively keeping me a rock’s throw away like a couple prepubescent 3rd graders at a middle school dance and also then quick to push me down. I’m inherently on guard when people try to buddy up to me because I have imposter syndrome, and so from my perspective the sequence of immediately disregarding how you thought it was a good question, agreeing with Long Con that it actually is bogus, and then here not admitting to scum read me for it is weird.

Anyways, I digress.

It just feels like you’re handling cereal with an oven mitt.

I didn’t say it was bogus, I just agreed that it could be manufactured if you happened to be scum which is why I needed to pull back on my enthusiasm over it feeling automatically towny.

Right-o. So humor me: what’s your read on me now after 48 hours of reassessment?
And do you usually approach your D1’s by identifying one Townlean and one vote?

(Thanks for answering )

You’d be in the middle of my readslist if I were to make one but I have so many null opinions on slots that a list wouldn’t make a lot of sense. You’re above my null reads if that helps understand my current pov.

My day 1 I usually only vote one person once I feel strongly enough about it unless something drastic happens or if I really really want to pursue a reaction test (my current vote is not a reaction test) but I wouldn’t say I only have one townlean. I’m not accustomed to a day 0 in mafia so I didn’t find a lot of meat in the day 0 postings to townread others. I have more comprehensive reads now after this day phase but still a lot of nulls which I don’t love.

That’s helpful info regarding votes, thank you!

Ok so if I were to placed on a metaphorical sliding scale, the inference is that you have me as a light town read. Is that fair?

And yeah, this was a long Day 0 for everyone to get in, and truth be told, there hasn’t been a lot of meat. Mostly me babbling in the dark, gims speed dating an entire city and long con perched in the corner sporadically popping balloons

Actually though LC, your entire day has been a concerted effort to string me up. It’s lazy. Do you have any other reads?

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Apr 11, 2025 12:04 am The read is: Scum.

KayJayQueue wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 11:50 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 11:46 pm

KayJayQueue wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 10:17 pm Scotty I think you are interpreting my “turnaround” on you the wrong way. Something was brought up that I literally hadn’t thought about and it made me feel kind of stupid for latching immediately onto something that felt good/townie (most likely because of a personal bias as it was the only person, gims, I could give any relevant input on) but in the end I had to be honest and say that I had to take back that initial read. It doesn’t automatically mean I think you’re scum, it just means I had to reassess. I was owning up to my read being too hasty but if I thought you were scum, I’d have voted you. I’ve only voted one person at this point.

Ok, hmm. It felt in my readback that you were actively keeping me a rock’s throw away like a couple prepubescent 3rd graders at a middle school dance and also then quick to push me down. I’m inherently on guard when people try to buddy up to me because I have imposter syndrome, and so from my perspective the sequence of immediately disregarding how you thought it was a good question, agreeing with Long Con that it actually is bogus, and then here not admitting to scum read me for it is weird.

Anyways, I digress.

It just feels like you’re handling cereal with an oven mitt.

I didn’t say it was bogus, I just agreed that it could be manufactured if you happened to be scum which is why I needed to pull back on my enthusiasm over it feeling automatically towny.

Right-o. So humor me: what’s your read on me now after 48 hours of reassessment?
And do you usually approach your D1’s by identifying one Townlean and one vote?

(Thanks for answering )

KayJayQueue wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 11:47 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 09, 2025 3:23 am

gims wrote: ↑Tue Apr 08, 2025 6:30 amomg hiiii

how do I kill this person

also hi I'm mac

This is the post that I initially townleaned Mac for but since then I’ve liked their posting so I’m happy with the read now that I feels it’s backed up with more than just a day 0 post that could’ve been easily ignored.

Ohhh gotcha, yeah that’s a good mac post

KayJayQueue wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 10:17 pm Scotty I think you are interpreting my “turnaround” on you the wrong way. Something was brought up that I literally hadn’t thought about and it made me feel kind of stupid for latching immediately onto something that felt good/townie (most likely because of a personal bias as it was the only person, gims, I could give any relevant input on) but in the end I had to be honest and say that I had to take back that initial read. It doesn’t automatically mean I think you’re scum, it just means I had to reassess. I was owning up to my read being too hasty but if I thought you were scum, I’d have voted you. I’ve only voted one person at this point.

Ok, hmm. It felt in my readback that you were actively keeping me a rock’s throw away like a couple prepubescent 3rd graders at a middle school dance and also then quick to push me down. I’m inherently on guard when people try to buddy up to me because I have imposter syndrome, and so from my perspective the sequence of immediately disregarding how you thought it was a good question, agreeing with Long Con that it actually is bogus, and then here not admitting to scum read me for it is weird.

Anyways, I digress.

It just feels like you’re handling cereal with an oven mitt.

KayJayQueue wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 10:17 pm Scotty I think you are interpreting my “turnaround” on you the wrong way. Something was brought up that I literally hadn’t thought about and it made me feel kind of stupid for latching immediately onto something that felt good/townie (most likely because of a personal bias as it was the only person, gims, I could give any relevant input on) but in the end I had to be honest and say that I had to take back that initial read. It doesn’t automatically mean I think you’re scum, it just means I had to reassess. I was owning up to my read being too hasty but if I thought you were scum, I’d have voted you. I’ve only voted one person at this point.

Wait! While I have you, I asked you this 24 hours ago, you may have missed it:

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Apr 09, 2025 11:55 pm

KayJayQueue wrote: ↑Wed Apr 09, 2025 5:13 pm

gims wrote: ↑Wed Apr 09, 2025 4:44 pm well, I don't know if I understand the mac townlean

It has to do with you directly.

Can you explain this more? I’m missing it

I'm also doing a full 180 on Roxy based on her followup. I think I have a pretty good handle on her wolf game, and I'm not going to divulge my tell, but I feel confident she's town atm. Even with just 8 posts. Crazy.

I don;t care if you call it TMI or what have you.

Town:
Long Con
Roxy

Townlean:
falcon (very easy going. Vibes feel right)

TSP (vibes feel similar to his last games)

Mac (I really feel like his progression is coming from a genuine solve, even though I am almost completely opposite of his takes)

MR (he woke up. I don't like his conclusion obviously. But it feels so lazy it's probably just town)

gims (still has hesitant energy. I liked that he answered my question of 'scum reads?' with 'would you judge me if I didn't' before proceeding to offer a taste of cheap wine. That his suspect was exactly who I was voting at the time (Roxy) is a tad on the nose, and I'm not sure I like that. But I believe what I saw in those Roxy reads, so it does feel good that someone else did too. There's just a lot of figuring him out as the game goes on if he can start making some scumreads on his own. Absolutely can fluctuate between scumlean and townlean)

Jack (this one is also in flux. Of my voters, if there is a wolf, it would be him, but I just don't hate his presence, and keeping him townlean)

Wilgy (I'm slightly concerned about him accepting my 'pocket'. Lack of free time is a thing and I guess it's a fine buffer for now, but he's at the bottom of my townleans)

Scumlean:
Porscha (getting there. Not sold on her being good yet, but not so sold on her badness either. Needs more data. Would fight in Drampa 3 war today tho)

Kay Jewelers (I'm weirded out by the progression of 'Scotty's question to gims is great' to 'oh no, actually I complete retract that, I'm paranoid.' That jump felt way too sudden. Especially the timing. They responded to Long Con's first line of 'why ask this' with a defense that, in hindsight, felt pockety. (which is funny because I've already had the accusation that I am pocketing the newbies). Now, when Long Con seemed committed, it felt like Kay jumped ship on trying to defend me, and went into trying to appease Long Con. I dunno, it just feels like they are reactively trying to appease the player that has the most confidence. I'm also not looking to vote here today per my newbie d1 code. However, I should note that if I felt like both the newcomers were exactly the scum that clogs my kitchen sink, I would vote there. Day 2, maybe)

Scummy:
pyxxalicious (more of a paranoia thing. One thing's for sure- I don't see pyxxy making a case against Kay in this manner as teammates, so probably not w/w there. But it does feel manufactured in a way that I am on alert for)


I'm not confident on any of these d1 scumreads.

I want to elevate TSP to town read/upper townlean. Looked at his last 2 town games here and the flow and cadence feels really similar.

Because VIBES baby

Anyone wanna fight?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 4:10 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 10:45 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 9:51 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Apr 09, 2025 8:21 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 09, 2025 2:53 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 09, 2025 2:40 pm [VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine

violence it is

[VOTE: Pyx] aubergine

I hate that I love this OMGUS.

Townlean

these two are my top scumreads

You think they’re just immediately distancing?
That seems a strange strategy

No he means you and Wilgy

yea I realized that when I was staring at his readlist going 'wait, didn't he just suspect pyxxy?'

pyxxy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 3:11 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 10:46 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 9:55 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Apr 09, 2025 11:54 pm Actually why not [VOTE: pyxxy] aubergine

I might be a bit paranoid from our last game, where I mistook a confusing babble of mech talk in our lovely BTSC with towniness but it was in fact just small talk at a work function with my coworker pretending to acknowledge we have things in common like softball and escape rooms but when I invite him out to a function he just ghosts me

I totally made up that scenario btw. No one ghosts me. No one.

and now you're voting one of if not my toppest town

Explain your pyxxy town read. That were diametrically opposed on D1 reads isn’t new, but I was recently spurned by a pyxxy that is very similar in tone here so my recency bias is flashing on my dashboard

as crazy as I sound saying this

I think my tone is always the wrong way to read me, and actually my content is quite readable

Ok tone is the wrong word here- (there was a reason you were a finalist for hardest to read for the Sockys)- but the content of that mech talk last game is what I'm saying I was spurned by. The tone is not as relevant, as you can fit both a rotten egg and a prized turkey in a garment bag and it'll still look like a garment bag

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 3:09 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 10:35 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 1:12 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Apr 09, 2025 11:47 pm General vibes:

Town:
Long Con

Townlean:
Wilgy
Jack
gims
Mac
Kay

Scumlean:
falcon
Pyxxy
TSP

Bad:
Porscha

Come back to the dragon romp3:
Roxy
Radishes (especially you, mister ‘I have some town leans but I’m not gonna talk about them’)
Porscha (you had a bouncy, happy-go-lucky check-in that makes me wary. Come on back)

how the hell does that make you scumread me LM AO

One of these days, I’m gonna pick up on your behavior a couple years ago where you lolcatted on D1, was yeeted, and flipped wolf. The more you post, the better I will feel about my read of you. But yeah, I associate your little bunny foofoo with you being bad

lol if i felt uptight and stiff you'd call me wolfy too... be honest :3

maaaaaybe

But really I use your mafia game of Apathy mafia as a guidepost. Which I guess I probably shouldn't, as that was like 43 years ago now

I forgot, have you been mafia in the past few months? Can't remember if you linked that game in GoC or not. I know someone did, was that you?

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 2:44 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 10:32 am

gims wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 7:27 am with the dangers of getting scumread for pointing at thing and going 'this looks tvt', I'm gonna point at long con and scotty's interactions and say that I believe this to be a tvt

I do find it a little odd that scotty would scumread me for taking safe townleans on page1-2 of a game - he'd be scumreading me every game if that was the case - and egregious in the sense that its talking about my action (having townleans) as opposed to the meaning/motivation/POV behind them (why I'm townleaning the people I'm townleaning, etc). however, since he asked first, and then came out of it with a townlean anyway, it feels more like he was indeed investigating into it with a curious mindset.

I think long con's push also comes from a suspicious/townie mindset so I like both slots

I'm voting falcon rn cause he vibisn't

Ok im gonna say this again for those long cons in the back

In a vacuum, with a player I have no connection to, putting out light townleans and no suspicions is inherently sus to me as a baseline. It reads as safe and blendy because it’s the easy thing to do- I’ve seen it plenty on times.

If I came into a game and asked ‘what color socks do you like to eat?’ Then yeah, I’d be like, what the hell are you smoking? But getting a better context for how people solve is really helpful, so at least I can eliminate that from suspicion.

Like, I really don’t know how I can explain that any better. Asked, answered, signed, sealed, delibird (@Porscha)


And yes, LC coming full frontal immediately at me is SO quizzical if he were bad, I’m willing to lock him town. And if he’s bad, well gg

why wouldn't a wolf do this to you scotty

I don't think a wolf *LC* would come in like this to me

It's a gut thing

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 1:29 pm I hate the Gims/Scotty push on Roxy. Hate it to my core.

huh.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 1:35 pm [VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

Fascinating.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 1:36 pm [VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

Hee ho

who you callin a ho

Pretty lacking votes, but I don’t hate the lack of justification in Jack and the absolute madman sheeping of MR. Probably towny votes?

Oh, you’re already there. And I have 3 votes wtf

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 1:29 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Apr 09, 2025 8:21 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 09, 2025 2:53 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 09, 2025 2:40 pm [VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine

violence it is

[VOTE: Pyx] aubergine

I hate that I love this OMGUS.

Townlean

And now I'm pocketed.

Lead the way Scotty.

Come along Scoob, we’re gonna get some pizza

[VOTE: Pyxxy] aubergine

Roxy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 1:26 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 12:51 pm

Roxy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 12:37 pm

gims wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 9:51 am

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Roxy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 9:34 am I'll be back with a vote bc I just ruined the fun I may have been having.

sorry why did you ruin it? cause you posted reads?

yes bc of players like:

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 10:43 am

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Roxy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 9:32 am New peoples (gim/KQJ)- I will be silent about until tomorrow.

Scotty - no u. seems normalish but I see what LC is saying about your questions to K. It felt like first date questioning if you get my meaning.

LC- I feel most town about you so I am probs wrong and you are bad. Meantimes I'll no doubt follow your vote.

Root Vegee Radish - get in here and get busy.

Falc- <3 super groovy tune-age! post more so I can hopefully call you town






Porscha - yah right lol like I can give any sort of read on you D1 let alone D 3 ---- not even gonna try.

Pyx- Your posts felt off like last game. Not real sure so Imma do a read of your few posts to see what I may find.

jack - also v unsure of you until you start towning the thread up I will remain on the fence.

TSP- wtf knows.

Wigly - feels better than Pyx and I liked your vote with violence.

Mac- felt ok with the first few posts but then it felt like they pulled a Houdini now Idk how I feel about their slot.

This is where my mind is- just ask the Pixies they will tell you I am not lying.

RE: me, ok…so what is your read of me then? Seems real noncommittal.

I’m also not thrilled with the rest of your reads. Just to pull from each of your reads:

Scotty: ‘seems normalish but I get what LC is saying’ I wrote-- "It felt like first date questioning if you get my meaning" --- You left LC off of your sysnopsis bc it proves I let EVERYONE know where my mind is --- to LC I wrote-- "I feel most town about you so I am probs wrong and you are bad. Meantimes I'll no doubt follow your vote." He is voting you rn so I am letting him and everyone know where my vote will likely land. Seems v committal to me......

MR: ‘get in here’
Falcon: ‘post more’ almost call him town but I do need more to go off of since I am not Sherlock
Porscha: ‘not even gonna try’
Pyx: ‘not real sure’ "Your posts felt off like last game. Not real sure so Imma do a read of your few posts to see what I may find." Feels off-- I was/am going to look to see if I can find what post(s) made my eyebrow arch upwards
Jack: ‘v unsure about you’ "he needs to towny up the thread" - it's how I read them tho they never towny it up D 1 bc there isn't shit to go off on D 1's.
TSP: ‘WTF knows’
Mac: ‘idk how I feel’ --"felt ok with the first few posts but then it felt like they pulled a Houdini now Idk how I feel about their slot." now they have actually posted more since I made this I feel pretty good where Mac is concerned.

See a pattern here? yeah the pattern is low posters are hard to read and gauge
Almost every player you have taken no real stance on. Which, at this point, gives us a whole lotta nothing.

[VOTE: Roxy] aubergine

It is D 1- ofc I am not sure about some but you really marginalized (in your synopsis of my reads) my thoughts in a way that feels like you are trying to say I said nothing when I really did.

You did not even include all of my reads.

I ofc don't pull reads out my ass esp on D0's or 1's. you played last game with me so let's say I am disappointed and it is fine.

Your reads lists was nothing but names in a column with no rhyme or reason as to why or how you arrived at your reads.

You hunt town. I hunt baddies - two very different styles- let me play my own way.

I did indeed only list names in columns, but I feel like it’s clear where I rank them. But not WHY.
The point I was making is that you made reads with text *but* everyone (except Wilgy) had a caveat. I have no idea how you actually view the players you listed. It’s like describing the color green as ‘it’s blue but also yellow, but not quite either’ Your point is moot now bc I am making you actually read what I wrote. Yes there some with no read but the ones I have *say something* so green is green but from where you are apparently it is aqua.

Again I do not pull reads out of my ass on D 1.

I would never tell you how to play btw, Rox. That’s just how it comes off to me. And it's how it came off to me.

I have added to your post (from my own) and highlighted where I tell you how I feel - it's only D 1 so I honestly do not have reads on many players tbs.

It means you hunt more for who is town vs for who is bad.

I appreciate the fleshed out reasoning! Definitely completely different vibe from your first post.

Your edge in this response feels closer to town Roxy

RE: hunt more for town vs bad; I think that’s a bit of a misrepresentation as I think I think I probably have a more balanced approach. Some things stick out and some things feel towny and I approach those as I see em

Roxy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 12:37 pm

gims wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 9:51 am

Spoiler: show

Roxy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 9:34 am I'll be back with a vote bc I just ruined the fun I may have been having.

sorry why did you ruin it? cause you posted reads?

yes bc of players like:

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 10:43 am

Spoiler: show

Roxy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 9:32 am New peoples (gim/KQJ)- I will be silent about until tomorrow.

Scotty - no u. seems normalish but I see what LC is saying about your questions to K. It felt like first date questioning if you get my meaning.

LC- I feel most town about you so I am probs wrong and you are bad. Meantimes I'll no doubt follow your vote.

Root Vegee Radish - get in here and get busy.

Falc- <3 super groovy tune-age! post more so I can hopefully call you town






Porscha - yah right lol like I can give any sort of read on you D1 let alone D 3 ---- not even gonna try.

Pyx- Your posts felt off like last game. Not real sure so Imma do a read of your few posts to see what I may find.

jack - also v unsure of you until you start towning the thread up I will remain on the fence.

TSP- wtf knows.

Wigly - feels better than Pyx and I liked your vote with violence.

Mac- felt ok with the first few posts but then it felt like they pulled a Houdini now Idk how I feel about their slot.

This is where my mind is- just ask the Pixies they will tell you I am not lying.

RE: me, ok…so what is your read of me then? Seems real noncommittal.

I’m also not thrilled with the rest of your reads. Just to pull from each of your reads:

Scotty: ‘seems normalish but I get what LC is saying’
MR: ‘get in here’
Falcon: ‘post more’
Porscha: ‘not even gonna try’
Pyx: ‘not real sure’
Jack: ‘v unsure about you’
TSP: ‘WTF knows’
Mac: ‘idk how I feel’

See a pattern here?
Almost every player you have taken no real stance on. Which, at this point, gives us a whole lotta nothing.

[VOTE: Roxy] aubergine

It is D 1- ofc I am not sure about some but you really marginalized (in your synopsis of my reads) my thoughts in a way that feels like you are trying to say I said nothing when I really did.

You did not even include all of my reads.

I ofc don't pull reads out my ass esp on D0's or 1's. you played last game with me so let's say I am disappointed and it is fine.

Your reads lists was nothing but names in a column with no rhyme or reason as to why or how you arrived at your reads.

You hunt town. I hunt baddies - two very different styles- let me play my own way.

Also lol what does ‘you hunt town’ mean?

Roxy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 12:37 pm

gims wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 9:51 am

Spoiler: show

Roxy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 9:34 am I'll be back with a vote bc I just ruined the fun I may have been having.

sorry why did you ruin it? cause you posted reads?

yes bc of players like:

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 10:43 am

Spoiler: show

Roxy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 9:32 am New peoples (gim/KQJ)- I will be silent about until tomorrow.

Scotty - no u. seems normalish but I see what LC is saying about your questions to K. It felt like first date questioning if you get my meaning.

LC- I feel most town about you so I am probs wrong and you are bad. Meantimes I'll no doubt follow your vote.

Root Vegee Radish - get in here and get busy.

Falc- <3 super groovy tune-age! post more so I can hopefully call you town






Porscha - yah right lol like I can give any sort of read on you D1 let alone D 3 ---- not even gonna try.

Pyx- Your posts felt off like last game. Not real sure so Imma do a read of your few posts to see what I may find.

jack - also v unsure of you until you start towning the thread up I will remain on the fence.

TSP- wtf knows.

Wigly - feels better than Pyx and I liked your vote with violence.

Mac- felt ok with the first few posts but then it felt like they pulled a Houdini now Idk how I feel about their slot.

This is where my mind is- just ask the Pixies they will tell you I am not lying.

RE: me, ok…so what is your read of me then? Seems real noncommittal.

I’m also not thrilled with the rest of your reads. Just to pull from each of your reads:

Scotty: ‘seems normalish but I get what LC is saying’
MR: ‘get in here’
Falcon: ‘post more’
Porscha: ‘not even gonna try’
Pyx: ‘not real sure’
Jack: ‘v unsure about you’
TSP: ‘WTF knows’
Mac: ‘idk how I feel’

See a pattern here?
Almost every player you have taken no real stance on. Which, at this point, gives us a whole lotta nothing.

[VOTE: Roxy] aubergine

It is D 1- ofc I am not sure about some but you really marginalized (in your synopsis of my reads) my thoughts in a way that feels like you are trying to say I said nothing when I really did.

You did not even include all of my reads.

I ofc don't pull reads out my ass esp on D0's or 1's. you played last game with me so let's say I am disappointed and it is fine.

Your reads lists was nothing but names in a column with no rhyme or reason as to why or how you arrived at your reads.

You hunt town. I hunt baddies - two very different styles- let me play my own way.

I did indeed only list names in columns, but I feel like it’s clear where I rank them.
The point I was making is that you made reads with text *but* everyone (except Wilgy) had a caveat. I have no idea how you actually view the players you listed. It’s like describing the color green as ‘it’s blue but also yellow, but not quite either’

I would never tell you how to play btw, Rox. That’s just how it comes off to me.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 9:07 am I am...not at all in a game playing mindset here.

Someone call me scummy and vote me so I'm forced to wake up and play

no

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 11:24 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 11:06 am But that makes sense. And some people don’t put their dog in spoilers so I TOTALLY get the confusion.

All kinds of different folk out there, really. It's a matter of taste.

Spoiler: show

dammit I did the thing

Dog = sig

Cute dog tho

gims wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 11:16 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 11:06 am 2nd softball question: who is your top scum read if you had to give one? Was asked yesterday and I see you’re still struggling here, following Mac.

But take a shot. I won’t judge

will you also not judge if I say I have no scumreads? I was thinking falcon wasn't vibing but I like their reaction to me. I ISO'd the people you're scumreading: I particularly appreciate the random pyxxy townread on me while not completely understanding where it came from. I think, if I squint really hard, roxy making a readslist and skipping both me and KJQ doesn't make much sense. we're d1 passes apparenrly but that doesn't mean you don't get to have a read on us. and all the reads are very bland, even though maybe its ok to be bland this early. I thought the whole 'this makes the game unfun for me' was quite performatic so maybe that's someone I'd vote off today.

Yes, I would judge if you didn’t try. I said I wouldn’t judge if you took a shot. That is more like taking a shit

(With love )

To defend Roxy (which is lol because I’m scum reading her) it is very on brand and non-AI for her to skip you two, as she will never vote a newcomer to the site on D1.

But hey, thanks for attempting- it’s helpful to have receipts for later. I think you’re still ok

gims wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 11:01 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 10:53 am How can I help?

im just not accostumed to it

the avatars and names are on the right, and I never look right cause on MS its on the left, so I often read the post but the right side of my mental image forgets who posted what

and some of the longer posts are a drag to read for some reason

im also getting confused with reading signatures as if theyre parts of people's posts lol

btw what was the second softball question? I missed it

Oh weird. Are you on desktop? I only use mobile and this is my view:



But that makes sense. And some people don’t put their dog in spoilers so I TOTALLY get the confusion.

2nd softball question: who is your top scum read if you had to give one? Was asked yesterday and I see you’re still struggling here, following Mac.

But take a shot. I won’t judge

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 10:09 am

gims wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 9:25 am maybe you get to scumread me for pocketing you

Whoa



You read my mind buuuut about somebody different

Falcon towny for this

Vote count with 26 hours to go in D1:

Roxy and pyxxy are my top scum reads atm btw

gims wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 10:51 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 10:01 am

gims wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 9:54 am mac on fire here imo

mac, I'll vote whoever you want to vote

Based on your stated positions my recent posts making you feel this way doesn't make much sense to me. What do you like about them?

youre just clearly town imo

I think youre wrong abt LC and scotty doing theatre, it looked pretty genuine from both sides, but thinking its theatre also seems to come from a town POV from where im sitting

I know, I know, everything I write here is looking informed and kinda wonky

Eh, i think you’re fine. Though I don’t recall you answering my 2nd softball question (sorry if I missed it)

gims wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 10:48 am god im having such a hard time with the website formatting, its hard to get into this game

How can I help?

Tbh there are quite a few clunky aspects of the bbcode formatting that I’ve just grown accustomed to, like a dog that suddenly has only 3 legs.

It’s like, MU is maddeningly confusing to me, even though I know others find it incredibly intuitive

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 10:00 am Town

Jack
Kay
Porscha
Pyxxy
TSP

Shrug

MR
Roxy
Falcon

Sus

Gims
Wilgy
LC
Scotty

find me the town in my sus pile

Mac town

I see where you’re coming from.

Besides my points on why LC, Wilgy feels far too lazy here to be wolf. Just dropping an OMGUS on pyxxy and peacing to live in the woods isn’t the evil oogey boogey woogy I know

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 9:55 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Apr 09, 2025 11:54 pm Actually why not [VOTE: pyxxy] aubergine

I might be a bit paranoid from our last game, where I mistook a confusing babble of mech talk in our lovely BTSC with towniness but it was in fact just small talk at a work function with my coworker pretending to acknowledge we have things in common like softball and escape rooms but when I invite him out to a function he just ghosts me

I totally made up that scenario btw. No one ghosts me. No one.

and now you're voting one of if not my toppest town

Explain your pyxxy town read. That were diametrically opposed on D1 reads isn’t new, but I was recently spurned by a pyxxy that is very similar in tone here so my recency bias is flashing on my dashboard

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 9:51 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Apr 09, 2025 8:21 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 09, 2025 2:53 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 09, 2025 2:40 pm [VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine

violence it is

[VOTE: Pyx] aubergine

I hate that I love this OMGUS.

Townlean

these two are my top scumreads

You think they’re just immediately distancing?
That seems a strange strategy

Roxy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 9:34 am

Spoiler: show

Roxy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 9:32 am New peoples (gim/KQJ)- I will be silent about until tomorrow.

Scotty - no u. seems normalish but I see what LC is saying about your questions to K. It felt like first date questioning if you get my meaning.

LC- I feel most town about you so I am probs wrong and you are bad. Meantimes I'll no doubt follow your vote.

Root Vegee Radish - get in here and get busy.

Falc- <3 super groovy tune-age! post more so I can hopefully call you town






Porscha - yah right lol like I can give any sort of read on you D1 let alone D 3 ---- not even gonna try.

Pyx- Your posts felt off like last game. Not real sure so Imma do a read of your few posts to see what I may find.

jack - also v unsure of you until you start towning the thread up I will remain on the fence.

TSP- wtf knows.

Wigly - feels better than Pyx and I liked your vote with violence.

Mac- felt ok with the first few posts but then it felt like they pulled a Houdini now Idk how I feel about their slot.

This is where my mind is- just ask the Pixies they will tell you I am not lying.

wish i could delete this whole thing I promised myself not put myself in this position again yet here I went----mfffffcsf

What position?