The Syndicate

sabie12 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 19, 2018 7:37 pm
sig wrote: ↑Wed Dec 19, 2018 7:32 pm @sabie12
So you don't believe the old women was talking about you at all? Any idea who it might've been since nobody was with you.

Also if we're thinking symbolization you had a curved dagger with you and that's the name of the team I see the logic.
I had people near me I just wasnt gonna call them out anymore. What if they try to kill me? What if they aren't actually bad? What if the mad old lady thing was all BS?

So you think they might be mafia, ie the try to kill you statement? Even though that would help civs. Why not share the info. And what if it wasn't, that's no different then the info Jack has on me, but you seem willing to roll with it.

Also you didn't answer me, do you think the old lady was talking about you? If yes why or no why.

[mention]sabie12[/mention]
So you don't believe the old women was talking about you at all? Any idea who it might've been since nobody was with you.

Also if we're thinking symbolization you had a curved dagger with you and that's the name of the team I see the logic.

hey! SVS is right, this is what I mean about fake information/shitty reasoning for my lynch. Have I been super active, no. But, to claim I'm as inactive as someone with 5 posts who voted once or twice as a reasoning for my lynch. Again dumb reasoning, just like sab's reasoning for her vote yesterday.

sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:38 pm I asked this, Woman in the woods about "any shady, evil, scary characters" that had passed by lately.

To which she replied that she "saw sabie12 with a jagged blade with her." followed by if i "understood that innuendo" and gave me a wink.

To anyone still stumped, she has essentially told me that sabie12 is a member of the jagged blade. Who we know is one of the mafia teams

Then Sprityo was killed soon after this.
I was targeted after going after Sab, now people are trying to lynch me.

She's most likely mafia and being protected by teammates.

Sab survived by implying it was Wilgy who the old lady was referring to buuuut he flipped civ so it couldn't have been. This is who we need to lynch tomorrow.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 19, 2018 11:47 am SVS, Sig is also pretty inactive. That’s my point. Sig has a case on him. Nova’s case also applies to Sig (and Sorsha and maybe Dana).

Btw, Sorsha and Dana’s avatars are great. @Dana is that your gato?

And what's that case? Ive yet to see it besides sig seems bad or map shit that everyone ignored about other players. In fact one of the players who has map shit against them from a dead player, is still being ignored.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 19, 2018 3:48 pm This one time an old mirror lady told me Sig was bad.

So we're setto trust this advice, buuuut not the old lady who told Sprityo that sab was bad.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 19, 2018 11:33 am I rest my case on Sig not paying attention to me to know targeting me would be a bad idea.

Seems like weak reasoning why could the other players not have?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Dec 18, 2018 11:14 pm 5. I get to rub it in sig's face that I helped his ass the next time he suggests I be lynched just for having the audacity to linger.

Jack's claiming to have info he's either wrong and bad or just wrong. I didnt target anyone.

Also lol when I throw my hands up I dont get lynched vut when I fight against it I do.

So I meant to vote for sab before I left yesterday. Sorry forgot to.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 19, 2018 10:54 am
colonialbob wrote: ↑Wed Dec 19, 2018 8:12 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 18, 2018 11:55 pm
colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Dec 18, 2018 9:35 pm Somebody lay out like a two sentence case for why sig please
Someone targeted me last night with a scum power and of the 5 people it could be, I think 4 of them realize I can see around me and harming me without killing me is too dangerous.
That would've been helpful 2 hours earlier :/
Like the eighth time I said it.

Real funny how Sig and Nova both say nothing and this massive shift from Sig to Nova happens.

Ooooooh weeeeell.

I said nothing on purpose he just said nothing.

Also final final final thing. If I'm lynched start hitting the following
Sab
DH
INH

Look at whomever out of the blue decided to vote for me and push my wagon since they probably tried to kill me or a teammate did and it failed.

One of the people defending me. They know how often I get mislyncjed so easy civ points when I flip good.

Oh and final final thing.

Nobody suspected juls she was nightkilled so using that against me is just another reason that makes no sense and stinks of a baddie coming up with fake reasoning.

Imma go ahead and peace out until next phase. If someone wants me go ahead and mention me I might answer/engage but if yall are foolish enough to lynch me when we have so much info and based off the lack of reasoning for their voted then lol jokes on you.

I dont even need to read the other reasons I'm sure they're dumb and have no desire to address them.

Sloonie been paranoid with tunnel vision since day 1.

DH has an ax to grind since i said we should lynch him
Sab has an ax to grind since I said we should lynch her oh I also thought she played on other sites which must mean I'm bad.
Gman cant talk, but seems to be cleared somehow who knows.
Jack qnd ddl no clue

sabie12 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 17, 2018 8:03 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Dec 17, 2018 7:40 pm [VOTE: sig] aubergine

Kyle reminded me that luna vouched for g-man and they coukd be the ying yang twins. I’m not sure they are, but sig has been shady all game long.
I've suspected sig since the first lynch where he acted all weird and all over the place and ended up on wolbre who was civ. Maybe tried to make his vote look more random than it really was. He also was the only one to vote DH right before he was targeted. He also defended juliet's saying he was 80 percent sure she was civ. He also made up info on me saying I played on other sites to accuse me which I never have and never said I did. He has some people defend him as well saying not to lynch him because hes been mislynched before not necessarily that they think for sure he must be a civ. (Maybe he has teammates out there?) Idk just some thoughts.

Total bullshit coming up over here.

I never made up Info maybe pay attention to what I said?

It's a genius thing to look at I thought you did weve have alot of new players from other sites in the last few years excuse me that i don't know your unique history.

Guess what it was something easily corrected that really changed nothing. Also calling me out on bren is silly since how many other people voted for him.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 17, 2018 12:25 pm
sig wrote: ↑Mon Dec 17, 2018 12:02 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 17, 2018 11:58 am I don't know there is a voice screaming to me that it is too easy. For Tranq and INH just to give themselves up to us on a plate.

We don't have a better way to fight this kind of thing as civs other than lynching whoever does it, though.
What about the sab thing? How's that any different then the other two.
What did Sab do again? Other than make a bunch of scummy looking posts? But she she self vote and lie like crazy?

Sprityo whole an old witch lady said she was carrying a dagger thing.

Also I'm not caught up and won't be tonight whoever's lynching me is dumb bad sig lynchers bad.

Oh and someone tried to kill me last night, they failed. Drunken Epi said he was trying to kill someone I assume it was me. The same person who I called out and said if he was alive to long should be lynched. Just gonna throw that out there.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 17, 2018 11:58 am I don't know there is a voice screaming to me that it is too easy. For Tranq and INH just to give themselves up to us on a plate.

We don't have a better way to fight this kind of thing as civs other than lynching whoever does it, though.

What about the sab thing? How's that any different then the other two.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Dec 16, 2018 8:25 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun Dec 16, 2018 8:15 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Dec 16, 2018 8:13 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun Dec 16, 2018 8:09 pm @Sloonie you still a mafia member? Or are you a civ now.
I was never mafia. You?
No

I'm never mafia on TS.
Why woukd I have switched alignments?

This gane seems to have the potential for alot of flipping

Nova voted last lynch, did he make any posts of significants

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Dec 16, 2018 8:13 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun Dec 16, 2018 8:09 pm @Sloonie you still a mafia member? Or are you a civ now.
I was never mafia. You?

No

I'm never mafia on TS.

[mention]Sloonie[/mention] you still a mafia member? Or are you a civ now.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Dec 16, 2018 8:06 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun Dec 16, 2018 8:05 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Dec 16, 2018 8:04 pm Definitely a civ would for sure try to divert everyone's attention to the unkillable indie. Definitely.
Not tracking the unkillable part. Was that confirmed in reveal or are you saying it.
I'm unkillable. Someone tried and they couldn't do it.

That doesn't equal unkillable all the time though. There's alot of roles ect that could've changed the outcome.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Dec 16, 2018 8:06 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun Dec 16, 2018 8:05 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Dec 16, 2018 8:02 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun Dec 16, 2018 8:01 pm And golden for that matter.

And what a scrum response we don't even know if DH is still indy do we? Scrum could've recruited him and if not hes already making a no u argument.
I dunno man. Seems like a great use of time to focus on an indie and not either of the two baddie teams tho.
If we get close to tied on civs and mafia with the amount of indies who I'm sure can win with either team then having someone who can flip bad isnt good civ math.

I'm not saying lynch you tonorrow, but town should come to a consensus on when to lynch you. Unless a civ recruits you in which case they can claim that and we would be able to hopefully get two confirmed civs.
Yeah I guess man hey who are your mafia teammates just as a heads up?

I'll tell you mine if you tell me yours.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Dec 16, 2018 8:04 pm Definitely a civ would for sure try to divert everyone's attention to the unkillable indie. Definitely.

Not tracking the unkillable part. Was that confirmed in reveal or are you saying it.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Dec 16, 2018 8:02 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun Dec 16, 2018 8:01 pm And golden for that matter.

And what a scrum response we don't even know if DH is still indy do we? Scrum could've recruited him and if not hes already making a no u argument.
I dunno man. Seems like a great use of time to focus on an indie and not either of the two baddie teams tho.

If we get close to tied on civs and mafia with the amount of indies who I'm sure can win with either team then having someone who can flip bad isnt good civ math.

I'm not saying lynch you tonorrow, but town should come to a consensus on when to lynch you. Unless a civ recruits you in which case they can claim that and we would be able to hopefully get two confirmed civs.

And golden for that matter.

And what a scrum response we don't even know if DH is still indy do we? Scrum could've recruited him and if not hes already making a no u argument.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Dec 16, 2018 7:58 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun Dec 16, 2018 7:57 pm Anyone wanna give me q quick catch up?
Ik weve got q few indy claims, but not who. Quin was the lynch and it failed, flavor looks like he's cat.

DH should be lynched well before lylo. Yes he can flip civ he can also flip mafia. If this is like last game he can't move and theres something on the map that can bring hin onto a team.
Lol good one.

Did you play the last one of these and if so do you recall what happened with Dom?

Meaning if mafia get the item theyve got one extra member and as DDL said earlier theres a good chance that other cov roles can be recruited

Anyone wanna give me q quick catch up?
Ik weve got q few indy claims, but not who. Quin was the lynch and it failed, flavor looks like he's cat.

DH should be lynched well before lylo. Yes he can flip civ he can also flip mafia. If this is like last game he can't move and theres something on the map that can bring hin onto a team.

Back made, laptop still broken so still phone posting.

Wow sorry for the absence I'm vack mad it home safe. Drove up negro mountain and no it wasnt in kentucky but Maryland, lol silly maryland.
Fun fact maryland also contains rising suns which apperently has the largest KKK membership for one area

LoRab wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 8:12 pm Can we, btw, talk about the fact that novaselinever has not shown up at all...

That's normal for him.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 5:23 pm Sig is such a common mislynch that we were able to frame him twice in Retrocausality. Not gonna fall for that one without better arguments.

Tbf I didnt help myself in that game. Buuuut it was very very fun.

colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 5:01 pm
sig wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:50 pm And the secondary portion of my thing, re mac, epi, and sloonie was more a general thing. Just in case I die I wanted to throw that out.
"Guys let's lynch our leaders because they've led us on mislynches even though none of them were really driving either of these lynches and Mac is kind of not leading anybody and epi was basically catching up all d2"

Mac agrees with me. In fact he used that same logic when he was left alive in Greek mafia I believe.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 5:01 pm
sig wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:50 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:18 pm sig is lamenting both the wilgy lynch, and the late bandwagon which was pushed as a counter to the wilgy lynch. Like, what?
Yes.
What should we have done?

Looked for more people or consolidated on another lynch. Even gman would've been better. The last minute cfd was weird and wiggly was a wagon all day. And ik to a degree I'm arm chair quarterbacking, but men to bad.

sabie12 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:56 pm
sig wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:48 pm
sabie12 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:13 pm
sig wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 3:32 pm Told you wiggly was good also WE NEED TO STOP WITH CFD SHIT!!!!!!
It rarely helps town and had basically resulted in two civs dead.

We need to lynch sab shes mafia or a baddie no way around that.
She's also newer to TS and have played on other sites correct? If those sites allow infoduming which I'm sure they do then she's probably very skilled at deflecting info that plus peoples bias to infodunping here is why shes still alive and we lynched a civ.
Actually I've never played on another site I was on this site playing from 2014 to 2016 so all this info dumping stuff is completely new to me I dont remember that being a thing before. I've explained a few times that I was here then had a brain tumor and was out of the game for awhile and came back recently. I dont know how any of that led you to the conclusions you're making now.
You're just so skilled I assumed you had experience on other sites.

Either way consider it a compliment I think you handled the accusation really well in a scum way.
Nice backhanded compliment there. I just know I'm playing an honest game and I'm not lying which is why I come off so calm about everything. Being civ I dont have to lie about anything I know I'm good and I'm playing the best I can.

Also what am I deflecting and is there a difference between mafia and baddies? aren't they the same thing?

Also also assuming things about my life and what I do outside of this site is not really an argument against me is it?

Assuming you've played on other sites is something that makes perfect sense. It's very important to figuring out strategy and what not so no need to be aggressive.

And nah I use term scum, baddie, and Mafia Interchangably.

See I think you're doing a good job of looking calm and .maybe you are, but that combined with info is enough to lynch you. Especially in the early game.

And the secondary portion of my thing, re mac, epi, and sloonie was more a general thing. Just in case I die I wanted to throw that out.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:18 pm sig is lamenting both the wilgy lynch, and the late bandwagon which was pushed as a counter to the wilgy lynch. Like, what?

Yes.

See this is a cultural thing imo, on most sites I've played on. you get info and theres either a counter claim and the original accuser gets lynched or whomever theyve got info on is lynched.

sabie12 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:13 pm
sig wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 3:32 pm Told you wiggly was good also WE NEED TO STOP WITH CFD SHIT!!!!!!
It rarely helps town and had basically resulted in two civs dead.

We need to lynch sab shes mafia or a baddie no way around that.
She's also newer to TS and have played on other sites correct? If those sites allow infoduming which I'm sure they do then she's probably very skilled at deflecting info that plus peoples bias to infodunping here is why shes still alive and we lynched a civ.
Actually I've never played on another site I was on this site playing from 2014 to 2016 so all this info dumping stuff is completely new to me I dont remember that being a thing before. I've explained a few times that I was here then had a brain tumor and was out of the game for awhile and came back recently. I dont know how any of that led you to the conclusions you're making now.

You're just so skilled I assumed you had experience on other sites.

Either way consider it a compliment I think you handled the accusation really well in a scum way.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 3:34 pm sig's vote was on DharmaHelper. No one else voted for DharmaHelper. Sig came on near the end of the day to shrug at every single case that existed. Sig then left. Sig is now blasting others for lynching wilgy.

I mean i blasted them when I was here to. Anyone who knows Wilgy knows that was a bad vote and more active players agreed with me. And tbf Mac was also on DH and I'd have not switched over to ttranq so my vote would've been wasted against that bandwagon.

Also I'm finally done this semester, driving home tomorrow so starting Saturday I'll be able to dive in do some isos and really get down and dirty in this game. Unless I get abducted by aliens, eaten by West Virginia inbreds, orrrrrr decide I'd rather not post.

Also not caught up all the way, but I dont want to lynch Mac, though i do think a sloonie lynch is becoming more viable.

Basically with the town leaders/high speed civs we need this strategy if they keep leading us wrong we need them gone. This is true fpr epi, mac, and sloonie. Since rhe longer they're alive and the more mislynches they led the more likely it is they're mafia

Told you wiggly was good also WE NEED TO STOP WITH CFD SHIT!!!!!!
It rarely helps town and had basically resulted in two civs dead.

We need to lynch sab shes mafia or a baddie no way around that.
She's also newer to TS and have played on other sites correct? If those sites allow infoduming which I'm sure they do then she's probably very skilled at deflecting info that plus peoples bias to infodunping here is why shes still alive and we lynched a civ.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 10:49 pm
sig wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 10:48 pm Popping in between studying for a final tomorrow.

I dont want to lynch wilgy, quin, or SVS I think they're all not mafia atm.

If I had to pick between quin and wilgy I'd probably go with quin. Just because I see no reasoning for rhe wilgy lynch beyond the usual reasons given which normally equal a mislynch
What I appreciate most about this post is all the insightful observations about G-man.

Your welcome i try my best.

Quin wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 10:49 pm
sig wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 10:48 pm Popping in between studying for a final tomorrow.

I dont want to lynch wilgy, quin, or SVS I think they're all not mafia atm.

If I had to pick between quin and wilgy I'd probably go with quin. Just because I see no reasoning for rhe wilgy lynch beyond the usual reasons given which normally equal a mislynch
maybe suggest a name that isn't one of the ones you think are good next time

I'd consider sab based off the info to be a top choice, the case on gman seems okay but I won't pretend to remember the details just that it didn't seem bad when i read it in the moment.

Lunas jump on sab nakes perfect sense if you have info you go with it on most sites. I'm actually shocked how that seemed to have been blown over.

Popping in between studying for a final tomorrow.

I dont want to lynch wilgy, quin, or SVS I think they're all not mafia atm.

If I had to pick between quin and wilgy I'd probably go with quin. Just because I see no reasoning for rhe wilgy lynch beyond the usual reasons given which normally equal a mislynch

For the trickster normally the role doesn't work in a way that would let someone flip as the trickster if they were night killed. We could see a twist with the role here, but I doubt it. We need to also remember there are items in play that could've been used to kill TH as well annnnnd lots of secrets.

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