Mafia: A World Asunder - GAME THREAD [Day 13]

[Sloonei]

Here is Luna:

I have reason to believe that nutella was killed by one of the five players I ISO’d.

Okay, thanks. I have reason to believe that G-man is not guilty.

I don't see that as mechanical clearing.

[Quin]

@Quin you feel like doing anything yet?

probably vote for epi at some point but otherwise no

why on the earth would you do that?

i would love it if you would read my posts

[Sloonei]

@Quin you feel like doing anything yet?

probably vote for epi at some point but otherwise no

why on the earth would you do that?

i would love it if you would read my posts

I remember your beef with him. It's aged beef and not relevant to the current discussion. Who else are you thinking about?

[Jackofhearts2005]

sloonei i love you and i haven't given your list the attention it deserves and i'm sorry but who is on it again?

you

But also Luna, Quin, DDL, G-Man.

and Kyle

and also Luna

[Quin]

@Quin you feel like doing anything yet?

probably vote for epi at some point but otherwise no

why on the earth would you do that?

i would love it if you would read my posts

I remember your beef with him. It's aged beef and not relevant to the current discussion. Who else are you thinking about?

im thinking about why you've got a problem with aged beef.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I need to walk the dog and get ready for bed. I still find Luna just accepting the second-hand sayings of a crazy old lady in the woods a bit disturbing. Not just accepting it so much as the accusatory tone she took with Sabie, I think Sprit is being truthful but I think his info is open to interpretation.

I feel better about Sabie than about Luna. I feel better about Kyle after rereading him, and I feel better about Quin than I do about G Man, but I feel better about G Man than about Wilgy.


So final vote switch to Wilgy. [VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine

Linki Mac <3

I thought it was Sprityo’s crazy old lady and Luna had something else?

[timmer]

Has Lorab done anything that was not discuss game mechanics?

I feel like I've mislynched her for that before but I can't help but ask.

She hasn't contributed a ton yet but I think lorab tends to ease into games a bit? I'm not getting a ping from her at all.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Folks, change your votes. I didn’t want to out myself so early but fuck it.

Last night I saw mommy kissing Santa Claus.

[Epignosis]

Here is Luna:

I have reason to believe that nutella was killed by one of the five players I ISO’d.

Okay, thanks. I have reason to believe that G-man is not guilty.

I have reason to believe you don't know what "mechanically cleared" means.

[Sloonei]

@Quin you feel like doing anything yet?

probably vote for epi at some point but otherwise no

why on the earth would you do that?

i would love it if you would read my posts

I remember your beef with him. It's aged beef and not relevant to the current discussion. Who else are you thinking about?

im thinking about why you've got a problem with aged beef.

I wouldn’t if it made sense to vote for Epi right now. We’ve got ~1 hour to go and a tightly contested lynch with a couple options. Throwing a loner vote on Epi for a minor issue from three days ago seems like not the best move.

[timmer]

What bothers me about Tranq the most is that his reaction to being suspected so far has been to stick the head in the sand and wait for it to grow away. He's completely ignored me so far.

Which gives me a feeling he knows he's not gonna be lynched with a single vote so he'd rather avoid it. And that is suspicious on its own.

He just comes here, drops a vote on Wilgy, says some uncompromising stuff, and leaves.

Up to this point in my read, Tranq is indeed VERY quiet. I don't think that is like him, and it isn't a civvie look for him to be so quiet in the glare of suspicion. I'd lean bad on him.

[Enrique]

I got a dump for you right here. *squats*

You're currently the only person voting for luna. Do you plan on changing your vote, or do you want us all to join you? If you change it, where's it gonna go?

Everyone should change.

[Quin]

@Quin you feel like doing anything yet?

probably vote for epi at some point but otherwise no

why on the earth would you do that?

i would love it if you would read my posts

I remember your beef with him. It's aged beef and not relevant to the current discussion. Who else are you thinking about?

im thinking about why you've got a problem with aged beef.

I wouldn’t if it made sense to vote for Epi right now. We’ve got ~1 hour to go and a tightly contested lynch with a couple options. Throwing a loner vote on Epi for a minor issue from three days ago seems like not the best move.

If he's bad it sounds like a great move. And so I make it.

[VOTE: epi] aubergine

[Sloonei]

I got a dump for you right here. *squats*

You're currently the only person voting for luna. Do you plan on changing your vote, or do you want us all to join you? If you change it, where's it gonna go?

Everyone should change.

I doubt that I will, but I encourage you to convince me.

Who would you change to if you had to?

[ColinIsCool]

Here is Luna:

I have reason to believe that nutella was killed by one of the five players I ISO’d.

Okay, thanks. I have reason to believe that G-man is not guilty.

I have reason to believe you don't know what "mechanically cleared" means.

I have reason to believe ... uh, hold on ...

Stuff happened, not in the thread, that makes me believe Sloonei’s list. Luna said stuff happened to make her believe G-Man is good. Her use of my language implies it was stuff happening not in the thread, or stuff involving game mechanics like roles, map tomfoolery, etc.

[timmer]

I just shoveled for the 4th or maybe 5th time today and it is still snowing....

Colin, one more question for you. I've made a lot of posts in this game and commented on write a few people. What do you think of my full iso?

I don’t have much time to do a full ISO, but I have read everything. I think you’ve looked hesitant to get involved at times and I have no strong reason to townread you.

Fair enough I guess, I vent help if I'm reading that way, but it's definitely a sign of how much my game declined lol as I think that was my most active day 1 ever, and if I'm coming across as disengaged or something, that's pretty bad. Thx for the response.

[Sloonei]

probably vote for epi at some point but otherwise no

why on the earth would you do that?

i would love it if you would read my posts

I remember your beef with him. It's aged beef and not relevant to the current discussion. Who else are you thinking about?

im thinking about why you've got a problem with aged beef.

I wouldn’t if it made sense to vote for Epi right now. We’ve got ~1 hour to go and a tightly contested lynch with a couple options. Throwing a loner vote on Epi for a minor issue from three days ago seems like not the best move.

If he's bad it sounds like a great move. And so I make it.

[VOTE: epi] aubergine

Disagreed. How do you feel about the key wagons?

[Dana]

I'm about 8 pages behind and I forgot the end time was moved up so I'll [VOTE: Quin] aubergine for now and possibly change my mind by the time I catch up. He seems very angry (which I think is normal for him but I don't really remember), and I am not getting the best vibe. I see that Wigly is in the lead right now but I don't have much of an opinion on him, and he also isn't on the Sloonei list if that discussion is still going on right now. I feel sort of okay about the other 4 on the list at the moment.

[Quin]

why on the earth would you do that?

i would love it if you would read my posts

I remember your beef with him. It's aged beef and not relevant to the current discussion. Who else are you thinking about?

im thinking about why you've got a problem with aged beef.

I wouldn’t if it made sense to vote for Epi right now. We’ve got ~1 hour to go and a tightly contested lynch with a couple options. Throwing a loner vote on Epi for a minor issue from three days ago seems like not the best move.

If he's bad it sounds like a great move. And so I make it.

[VOTE: epi] aubergine

Disagreed. How do you feel about the key wagons?

I am one of them and that's not cool.

G-Man should be one of them.

I don't know what's going on with Wilgy, bar his EoD1 defence. And that I don't think anything about.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I have reason to believe Wilgy is Shepard.

[Quin]

I'm about 8 pages behind and I forgot the end time was moved up so I'll [VOTE: Quin] aubergine for now and possibly change my mind by the time I catch up. He seems very angry (which I think is normal for him but I don't really remember), and I am not getting the best vibe. I see that Wigly is in the lead right now but I don't have much of an opinion on him, and he also isn't on the Sloonei list if that discussion is still going on right now. I feel sort of okay about the other 4 on the list at the moment.

I'm not angry. I'm making shortbread though so we'll see how things go.

[ColinIsCool]

[Jackofhearts2005]

I have reason to believe Wilgy is Shepard.

This is a joke about infodumping

I remembered there actually is a Shepherd in this game.

[timmer]

@Sloonei I tried to find your list of five, and your iso is daunting. Can you either repost it or link me to it?

Luna, Kyle, DDL, Quin, G-man.

One of them killed nutella.

Ugh... knowing this fact, I can read any of their iso and see a baddie now, lol here comes the paranoia!

I'm hoping the rest of my catchup will illuminate this a bit as I'm no good at catching careful baddies this early.

[Quin]

Putting aside the fact I've only ever played a burglary with Dana so I don't know what she's remembering, that post is contradictory. How is being my normal self giving you bad vibes? What's different?

[sig]

Popping in between studying for a final tomorrow.

I dont want to lynch wilgy, quin, or SVS I think they're all not mafia atm.

If I had to pick between quin and wilgy I'd probably go with quin. Just because I see no reasoning for rhe wilgy lynch beyond the usual reasons given which normally equal a mislynch

[Sloonei]

[VOTE: g-man] aubergine
His posts have less good in them than Quin's.

[timmer]

Catching up.

If you named those five cats and said "who of these are most likely to kill nutella" I would say Lunalee.

I think Sloon's info is helpful, but I think this isn't a very good way to use it. These are team kills, not individual kills. I'd rather look at the Sloonei Five and lynch based on merit instead of NK analysis, especially in a setup like this.

I got linki'd and apparently this has already been said. I'll shut up until I finish the thread.

Lol sloonei 5 makes me flash back to the erlatz 11 and... something 8... What was it?

But if sloonei is sure of this, I agree we need to judge on thread evidence, not who someone may be chummy with and like to kill.

[Quin]

Popping in between studying for a final tomorrow.

I dont want to lynch wilgy, quin, or SVS I think they're all not mafia atm.

If I had to pick between quin and wilgy I'd probably go with quin. Just because I see no reasoning for rhe wilgy lynch beyond the usual reasons given which normally equal a mislynch

maybe suggest a name that isn't one of the ones you think are good next time

[sig]

Lunas jump on sab nakes perfect sense if you have info you go with it on most sites. I'm actually shocked how that seemed to have been blown over.

[Sloonei]

Popping in between studying for a final tomorrow.

I dont want to lynch wilgy, quin, or SVS I think they're all not mafia atm.

If I had to pick between quin and wilgy I'd probably go with quin. Just because I see no reasoning for rhe wilgy lynch beyond the usual reasons given which normally equal a mislynch

What I appreciate most about this post is all the insightful observations about G-man.

[sig]

Popping in between studying for a final tomorrow.

I dont want to lynch wilgy, quin, or SVS I think they're all not mafia atm.

If I had to pick between quin and wilgy I'd probably go with quin. Just because I see no reasoning for rhe wilgy lynch beyond the usual reasons given which normally equal a mislynch

maybe suggest a name that isn't one of the ones you think are good next time

I'd consider sab based off the info to be a top choice, the case on gman seems okay but I won't pretend to remember the details just that it didn't seem bad when i read it in the moment.

[Epignosis]

My question is for Epignosis, is the first quote suss?

No.

Double-standards, and what not, but I don't care.

Women write differently than men.

Epi is bad for not checking the context behind why Luna was using the word valid.
Or Turnip is bad for posing the question without checking the context behind why Luna was using the word valid.

got em

I don't follow pls explain

Sloonei and Luna's qualifiers are different. One could argue Sloonei was qualifying his post - "I have a genuine suspicion..." but Luna's use of valid is a reference to her earlier rebuttal where Mac said Day 1 cases are based on nothing and a direct quote using the term valid from SVS. The fact that she repeats the word valid in the same post should make this obvious.

Epi made a blanket statement about how women post which means he didn't check context. If he did he'd have realised the difference between the two. I don't expect this from town.

I didn't need to check context because I understood the post the first time I read it. And I read it as being deliberately snarky. I smiled when I read it.

then why didn't you say that?

I needed to say "I didn't need to check context because I understood the post the first time I read it" before someone accused me of not checking the context?

Do you care about my opinion or are you just stirring up shit?

[sig]

Popping in between studying for a final tomorrow.

I dont want to lynch wilgy, quin, or SVS I think they're all not mafia atm.

If I had to pick between quin and wilgy I'd probably go with quin. Just because I see no reasoning for rhe wilgy lynch beyond the usual reasons given which normally equal a mislynch

What I appreciate most about this post is all the insightful observations about G-man.

Your welcome i try my best.

[nutella]

Catching up.

If you named those five cats and said "who of these are most likely to kill nutella" I would say Lunalee.

I think Sloon's info is helpful, but I think this isn't a very good way to use it. These are team kills, not individual kills. I'd rather look at the Sloonei Five and lynch based on merit instead of NK analysis, especially in a setup like this.

I got linki'd and apparently this has already been said. I'll shut up until I finish the thread.

Lol sloonei 5 makes me flash back to the erlatz 11 and... something 8... What was it?

But if sloonei is sure of this, I agree we need to judge on thread evidence, not who someone may be chummy with and like to kill.

Oh man Erlatz Eleven takes me back. (don't remember what the 8 was but sounds vaguely familiar)

[speedchuck]

So I'm working on some stuff tonight and I'm already behind another 4 pages. Anyone want to catch me up a bit?

[nutella]

So I'm working on some stuff tonight and I'm already behind another 4 pages. Anyone want to catch me up a bit?

LC was a death eater

[Sloonei]

Popping in between studying for a final tomorrow.

I dont want to lynch wilgy, quin, or SVS I think they're all not mafia atm.

If I had to pick between quin and wilgy I'd probably go with quin. Just because I see no reasoning for rhe wilgy lynch beyond the usual reasons given which normally equal a mislynch

What I appreciate most about this post is all the insightful observations about G-man.

Your welcome i try my best.

so what are your thoughts on g-man?

[Epignosis]

Kangaroo court is in session- the honorable EOD CFD is presiding. Yikes! What a mess that D1 lynch turned into.

G-Man, you said you suspected me after reading me - why? I would like specifics and not something general. Whatever your reasons were are they still present currently? And why didn't you try to address me on whatever issues you found? And the vote - Sloonei has asked these questions but I will ask them again - why did you say you were voting me and then vote for Sloonei? What happened there? Why didn't you share your thinking and if you couldn't before the vote why haven't you shared it since?

Of the five people I ISO’d Day 1, your’s seemed most plausible to be manufactured. Having read through the thread in full, I can still see it that way but I’m casting a wider net now and going back to ISO everyone.

My intent was to make an imperfect vote for you Day 1 but then I saw Sloonei taking the notion way too far. I wish I had been able to look through more ISOs for blenders but I ran out of time. Sloonei got my vote because he went from pushy to accommodating to cordial to panicky to desperate all in one day. That’s exhausting to read through and it looked lame in the moment.

I didn’t want to start a bona fide train on you. I just wanted to find a place to dump a Day 1 vote based on partial reads and imperfect understanding. Voting for you after Sloonei would have made you a train. I think my vote for Sloonei tied him with Wilgy at the time, which added to the cheeky fun of voting without posting.

Why aren’t I sharing more often? Because I’m tired most of the time, busy at home, stressed out at work, and fighting like heck to deny the impulse to let this game take over my life. I also don’t like answering lots of little questions in this sea of yip-yip-yip. I’m going to move forward because I choose not to explain the past too much. It slows me down too much. I remember pissing off MP a few times doing this sort of thing.

Onward.

What the hell is this?

[Quin]

No.

Double-standards, and what not, but I don't care.

Women write differently than men.

Epi is bad for not checking the context behind why Luna was using the word valid.
Or Turnip is bad for posing the question without checking the context behind why Luna was using the word valid.

got em

I don't follow pls explain

Sloonei and Luna's qualifiers are different. One could argue Sloonei was qualifying his post - "I have a genuine suspicion..." but Luna's use of valid is a reference to her earlier rebuttal where Mac said Day 1 cases are based on nothing and a direct quote using the term valid from SVS. The fact that she repeats the word valid in the same post should make this obvious.

Epi made a blanket statement about how women post which means he didn't check context. If he did he'd have realised the difference between the two. I don't expect this from town.

I didn't need to check context because I understood the post the first time I read it. And I read it as being deliberately snarky. I smiled when I read it.

then why didn't you say that?

I needed to say "I didn't need to check context because I understood the post the first time I read it" before someone accused me of not checking the context?

Do you care about my opinion or are you just stirring up shit?

I don't understand this post but it also does nothing to change my opinion so I guess it's cool.

[Sloonei]

So I'm working on some stuff tonight and I'm already behind another 4 pages. Anyone want to catch me up a bit?

It seems to be coming down to the 2 of the Sloonei 5 + Wilgy. GTH reads on those fellas, go go go.

[Epignosis]

The implicit thing in that post is that G-Man can make perfect votes, so he has to try to make his votes imperfect. What the hell is this?

[Epignosis]

Epi is bad for not checking the context behind why Luna was using the word valid.
Or Turnip is bad for posing the question without checking the context behind why Luna was using the word valid.

got em

I don't follow pls explain

Sloonei and Luna's qualifiers are different. One could argue Sloonei was qualifying his post - "I have a genuine suspicion..." but Luna's use of valid is a reference to her earlier rebuttal where Mac said Day 1 cases are based on nothing and a direct quote using the term valid from SVS. The fact that she repeats the word valid in the same post should make this obvious.

Epi made a blanket statement about how women post which means he didn't check context. If he did he'd have realised the difference between the two. I don't expect this from town.

I didn't need to check context because I understood the post the first time I read it. And I read it as being deliberately snarky. I smiled when I read it.

then why didn't you say that?

I needed to say "I didn't need to check context because I understood the post the first time I read it" before someone accused me of not checking the context?

Do you care about my opinion or are you just stirring up shit?

I don't understand this post but it also does nothing to change my opinion so I guess it's cool.

[speedchuck]

Wilgy - No read. Maybe some incriminating info though? Hard to say with the vagueness of the Sabie connection.
G-Man - I've read like 3 of his posts. Most of his bad stuff was apparently in skipped pages.
Quin - I voted to put some suspicion on quin to see how he shined under it. Before he could shine, he became the lead train. Teammate compatible with TH. I don't read him much bad otherwise, but he hasn't been perfect Genuquin yet.

Um. Scum the lot of them. I'll try to get some more nuance in my reads later.
Right now it's

Quin
G-Man
Wilgy

I'll look at G-Man if I get the time

[speedchuck]

Oh crap this poll ends earlier than last one

[timmer]

I take it as a moderately good sign that Luna is vouching for G-man. If I was bad and it seemed that I was part of a seemingly accepted short list of candidates, I would try not to rule out any of the other members myself.

I don't see a bad Luna in this game at all. I think I would her dead last of a list of likely baddies from your list.

[Quin]

the only thing about me that shines in this game is my ass

[speedchuck]

the only thing about me that shines in this game is my ass

[timmer]

The Quin ISO was basically "Quin trying to pocket Sloonei" which puts him above DDL on my radar.

There, I've caught up on all the shit I wanted to do, just about. Here's where I'm looking for a vote today, in order of preference

Doc
Tranq
G-Man
Quin
DDL
Luna

This seems like a solid list, and I would stick kyle in the quin ddl middle area. At this point I'd be ok with any of the top 3 names on this list bring lynched. I'm leaning tranq.

[Sloonei]

the only thing about me that shines in this game is my ass

Quin wants to kill all humans confirmed.