The Syndicate

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:16 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:44 am

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:41 am Excellent game, vamps. Obliterated. Dang.

Unsure why the game didn't end before today, really. No way would could have gotten the support to get Mac, even with Glory's help.

Despite everything, it was still anyone's game until sig (Oz) killed lapluie (Riley) earlier today. If he had just targeted Mac (Angelus) instead... Tranq (Darla) dies, lapluie (Riley) roleblocks Mac (Angelus)... but alas, it was absolutely not to be.

Did he imply that he was considering killing me instead? I think he did the right thing with both kills as far he knew. Those two (nova and lap) were everyones scum reads. I think sig was reading the game very well. He had me worried that's for sure. He just got thrown by the bussing and the opinions of others.

I was all set to kill SVS for my day kill and second guessed myself. Sorry about that town and Lap/Nova.

Also really well played I'd have never thought that the mafia team bussed so hard, but I also thought we were winning with the NK targets.

@HOSTS would we be told if we were at Lynch or Lose?

Tranq wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:55 pm Ok i don't know why Mac is cleared from being a Vamp but it's almost 1am and i don't have time to look it up right now. LoRab sounds fine.

I don't like this though.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:32 pm Sig what do you think of tranq?

He tunneled on Nova which was odd and avoided the major wagons, plus not many posts. However, he did also suspect Illy and the reasoning for the nova vote is sound. If he's who we think he is we shouldn't lynch him.

I'll vote for Lorab right now, but wouldn't be opposed to maybe switching to Tranq if someone else could read him over that would be great.

This is why i'm hesitant to bus her.

Right now everyone alive minus myself and Tranq voted for Illy.

Mac has bussed a fair amount of teammates, but when he voted for Illy made it seem like it wasn't a bus.


I keep coming back to Tranq he seemed very civvie with his Illy read, yet he voted for Nova multiple times.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 5:21 pm Okay, I see that.

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Wanna lynch Sig?

Where did this come from?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 5:21 pm Okay, I see that.

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Wanna lynch Sig?

Where did this come from?

Maybe I'm mistaken but wasn't Mac the first or second vote on Illy?

The main issue I have with lorab is that she was explaining alot at first and didn't have much content, but later in the game she started posting more related stuff

I wish I was Glory, but I'm not. In theory lap could be Glory it says attempts to kill her at night.

I think that's something to shelve for the time, with Lap being dead I think the last mafia member is either SVS or lorab, I'm leaning away from Lorab since she was more active on the Illy push.

Mac went for illy to earlier to be mafia
Chuck is a solid town read.
Tranq does have odd pings and he hasn't posted much, but I'm not reading him as mafia.

That means the last mafia member would be SVS, but if it is her I'd face palm so hard since I've had nagging doubts about her for awhile, but never really acted on them.

That wasn't the best lynch results, but also not the worst.

Who are we thinking for last 1/2 mafia members at this point.

Shit sorry i missed the vote, I got caught up in making a study guide for a class and lost track of time.

I'm fairy sure I've made many reads throughout the game, they've all been wrong it seems like, but I'm making reads. So I find it odd you say I'm not.

however, at the same time she seems like a civ read.

Yes, I understand your Lorab read, she's been pinging me.

I'm surprised mafia killed kyle? This seems like a strange target.

Do you think Mac would've bussed so hard as a teammate

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 4:27 pm

sig wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 1:02 pm Before I do any ISO, I'm going to be looking very closely at Nutella, Tranq, and Speed.

Tranq's been tunneling on Nova all game avoiding the other major lynches and Nutella/Speed was one of the two other wagons the day DF got lynched.

Tranq just single got Drusillyria lynched, isn't that a pretty major lynch?

Yeah but then he jumped over to another wagon it was odd.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 5:45 pm is the hot case against illy basically that rabbit might have been mafia and that she and rabbit displayed only limited acknowledgement of each other in the thread?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 7:59 pm I feel pretty good about the stuff on illy and nova. I hope to see a response from I'll before the end of the day

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:59 pm voted for illy btw, i just died cus i forgot to vote in middle earth, i'd be embarrassed to forget to vote here in regular earth

hellmout

This is Kyle's three posts about Illy all day 3. Not much here one way or another. [mention]Kylemii[/mention] who do you think is Illy teammate and why?

Did a reread of yesterday.

Mac
Speed
Lorab
nutella

all jumped on an illy wagon fairly quickly which does look good. In theory one could be bussing, but with such a small team I feel like they'd wait a bit to bus.

The two Illy voters I'm looking at now are SVS and juliets

Tranq wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 4:55 pm Illyria sounds good. With a couple of votes on novaselinenever in case she's Angelus?

I don't like this post it seems like you're trying to start a counterwagon. However you and nova have been going back and forth since day 1 so this could just be civ on civ.


I'd rather not lynch Tranq tomorrow.

SVS probably had the most drive by Illy lynch out of what i've looked at right now, which could be bussing. Thoughts?

S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 6:15 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 12:32 pm speedchuck
nutella
juliets
Kylemii
sig
Lapluie
MacDougall
novaselinenever
S~V~S
Ambray
Tranq
LoRab
Illyria

In rough order. My townreads, the top half of the list, are more certain than my scumreads.

I was one of your top civ reads before I suspected you, is that how you roll?

Catching up now, I had Illy towards the bottom of my rankings last time I posted them, is it just generic blendy quietness or is it something else?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 4:47 pm LoRab, I had you as like a top townread except for the role fishing, which wouldn't even be as bad if you hadn't denied it. But for today, I'm willing to chalk that up to "different backgrounds" (My background is closed setups with lots of role crap, and role fishing [in other words trying to get someone to talk directly about their role or what their role is not] was considered bad bad bad) because we share a common top scumread. Let's talk about that.

You read Illyria as scum for meta, gut, and a few posts. I've been reading her as scum because of tone and interactions, having never played a game with her before.

We arrived at the same conclusion for different, but complementary reasons. And I find that to be a good reason to vote.

I like this post.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 5:25 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 5:20 pm So your case is because he cased you but he is the one pulling omgus?

That kind of crazy talk only comes from civs. Next.

Oi lapluie talk.

I don't care that his case is against me. It doesn't matter if it is against me or any other low poster.

The case is he's pushing against inactives and low posters. He isn't trying to out scum or do anything else. He is just trying to find easy target to leave his vote on them and then save himself the trouble and scrutiny from Town. With his votes against me no one is questioning it or his reads. The only reason he's been giving is low-posting and inactivity. He did the same last day phase before leaving. He just mentioned me and my activity, and then left his vote and left. He didn't try going against Speechuck or DFaraday, because they required real reads and reasons to vote them. Scum would avoid that and go for easy targets. That's what he's doing.

He did the same right now. As soon as I voted against him, he returned the favor and went on with ' I feel good about my vote '. If that isn't bullshit I don't know what is.

I think this may be cultural? The other LP people can correct me if I am wrong, but this was a very common thing where we all came from, we voted for low posters/non voters the first few days, especially if it was quiet like it was on Super Bowl Sunday. You seem to be taking this personally, and it is more of a "Play or die" thing. It's more fun playing with people who play

Also Mac should post MOAR CAT VIDEOS!!

Dropping a vote on Illy for now, will bbl after dinner to finish reading.

Prior to this the only direct contact from SVS side seems to be saying both rabbit and Illy are null reads.

Before I do any ISO, I'm going to be looking very closely at Nutella, Tranq, and Speed.

Tranq's been tunneling on Nova all game avoiding the other major lynches and Nutella/Speed was one of the two other wagons the day DF got lynched.

Illyria wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 6:50 pm.

LoRab wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 5:52 pm
This actually makes sense to me. In all honesty, I missed that the vampires could recruit Spike. But still, I'm not sure why single him out, of all the indies. As you say here, the Mayor can take a civ away from the civ numbers. In all fairness, I'm going on show knowledge--but I'm guessing the Mayor is more dangerous than Spike.

I still have an eyeball on you, but I'm less suspicious of you than I was last night.

Agreed on the Mayor, I am most concerned about Glory, but the Mayor is next on my list.

It is interesting. The Day post made me think of The Master, but he is not listed. The opening post mentioned the Hydra Monster thingie. We saw the multi headed beast in end of S1 with the Master and again in S3 with the Mayor. I dont know if this is helpful or not but those were my thoughts when I read it.

So here's our first game content, talking about Glory and the Mayor looking back super pingy that she didn't mention the mafia, the rest of the post was fluff/not game related.

Illyria wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 6:54 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 1:27 pm Potassium nitrate is one of gods greatest gifts. Be sure to eat one tablespoon a day to stray from the path of the devil. Potassium nitrate also does wonders for the skin and digestion.

Also, what now> I don't remember playing with you, sorry. So, other people, is this normal behavior for DrW? Since no one commented on it, I am guessing yes but I want to be sure.

Interaction with Wilgy, I view this as trying to set up a lynch maybe? it could be distancing, but seems uncalled for so I'll assume Wilgy isn't a dead teammate.

Illyria wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 7:46 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 7:13 pm @Illyria I'm interested in your thoughts as you catch up

As of right now, I am feeling that Lorab is a civvie. I am waiting for Lup to post more, especially as they are new, but I think I am eyeing them?? I am also eyeing DrW because of that odd post even if you all think that is normal. If that is his only one so far, I am going to wait to see if he will say anything else on topic-- but right now I think that might be where my vote is going? UGGGGH. This is hard!! /tantrum

I am hoping that I will be able to dust some of this rust off my mafia instincts. I am not sure that I trust them right now!

Prod from SVS.

Reading Lorab as a civ, eye on Wilgy and Loop, who flipped civ day 1.

The only player alive out of this first set is Lorab.

Illyria wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 7:58 pm Oh geez. I meant Lapluie. Sorry. Lap!

If loop did not post in either thread, I wonder if they meant to sign up at all? That seems slightly odd to click yes and the never post anywhere?

Meant Lap, who's still alive. I'll need to see further interaction between the two since some minor suspicion isn't that telling.

Illyria wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2018 8:18 pm So Lap voted for Glory, but I searched their posts and I could not find why?? Did I miss it? Neither did SpeedChuck that I saw.

I am going to wait and see if my antiquated way of searching posts is not how it is done anymore but.. I am pinged by that somewhat.

I'll get back to this post.

Illyria wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 8:58 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:47 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:03 amJackofhearts was killed by the Vampires.

Marmot has been killed by Spike.

Timmer has been killed by Riley.

DrWilgy has been killed by Glory.

holy shit

I... am right there with you dude. Great. Muppety. Odin.

This could be teammate chat? But it's weak.

lapluie wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 6:02 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 6:32 am Wow that's alot of dead people. And Timmer was Adam, presumably, and Marmot was non human. Killing him was kind of mean since he just got back. Wilgy was an odd choice as he had some suspish on him. I just looked at Who Posted, and Jack was not a low poster but I don't recall anything he actually said.

I Am still looking at lapluie, and a few other people got my eye, but I need to think about it. I go back to work today so will be on the quiet side until after 4 eastern.

Hello there, just flipped back. no none of them are participating in this game, however I'm more diligent on the other game right now that I've lost train of thought here, my apologies.

I'm not afraid to voice an opinion but as of right now, I will say we should look more into the loop mislynch voters, it's very duck soup to jump on a wagon especially on day 0 (?) with little to no evidence off a players behaviours for an easy quick lynch. I noticed a few players piled on before due time & im skeptical about that, for now ill be placing vote of DFaraday - I believe he voted for Loop also, his reasoning for vote was moot.

Okay, why did you vote for Glory? Also, so I can read your posts correctly, is English your L1?


True to canon. He was Hard Core.

Okay, sorry again. My work schedule is stupidly insane on Mon and Tuesday, I have some time on Weds and Thurs (assuming I make it that long) and I will do what I can tonight.

Speed is getting support from La, Lap and Kyle. I see what SVS is saying, I felt like Speed was stirring the pot a little to see what stuck but with our numbers dwindling so quickly I am now hesitant to go all in on Speed yet. I am leaning NoVaseline as they have not posted except to ask why someone voted for them. I think. I am going to try out that fancy iso button La told me about, that is nifty.

Some more back and forth with Lap, she seems to have focused on them alot compared to other players and I'm not sure what to think of it. She starts to set up a case agaisnt speed, which did almost result in his lynch day 2, so I'll look there out of the main two counter wagons I'd say Speed is looking better atm then Juliets.

Nov is probably not on the same team if she's talking about lynching them, but I'd not civ read him(her?)

Illyria wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:12 pm Well, that did not take long. NoVa has posted twice about the Day 0 stuff, and then asked Tranq why he got the vote from him.

Okay. I have to go and check LoRab, traditionally, I have not been able to read her accurately (possibly ever but someone with a better brain than me can answer that).

Linki: @lapluie I work in languages, and some of your idiomatic phrasing made me think that you were romance language based. It helps me differentiate between you having a baddie slip up, or having another language running around your brain making noise. Thank you!

More talk on Nova and says she'll check LoRab I'll need to see where this leads.

Illyria wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:51 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:36 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:14 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:00 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 8:18 pm @Tranq Mind explaining your vote on me ?

Tranq has gone for the night as he said in his last post. He explained his vote for you in another post - have you read them? You haven't made any posts besides this one since Day 0 and it kinda feels like you are avoiding the game because you are posting elsewhere. S~V~S asked you your thoughts on the game but you haven't responded. It would be helpful to me if you would. I can see why Tranq voted for you and I could consider a vote here as well.

link

I must have missed them then. I'm not really avoiding the game, I'm just a quiet player and don't post unless I have something to contribute. At the moment, I don't and that's why you haven't heard my thoughts. Also, S-V-S never mentioned me in a post or I didn't get the notification.

Me posting in another game and not in this one doesn't mean anything. You could always check that game and you'd see that I didn't post early in the game when I didn't have anything to add.

I did check the other game and you posted 18 times on Day 0 and Day 1/Night 1, most of that on Day 0. You even gave a read on someone as being suspicious. I'll agree that you didn't say a whole lot but you were a lot more active than you've been here.

linki

NoVa, I have been out of this for almost a year and I am getting pinged by people. You have to have some kind of reaction to someone by now, that is what we are looking for here.

rabbit8 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:42 pm Sorry, I defiantly did not get drunk and spill shit all over my keyboard and fry anything.

No sirreeebob.

I have to say that right now, the people dodging the direct questions are making my radar go nuts. Specifically, Lap and NoVa, I am not expecting a monster post (though nice one La!) from you-- but this is speed mafia and moves a lot faster. We need you to move faster too, especially if you are civvie. Can you at least give us a name or two of someone you find suspicious and why?

throws some mud over at Nova and Lap again, Illy is focusing in one them alot.

Illyria wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2018 7:47 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2018 2:36 pm LMAO at the idea of rabbit and SVS

I almost fell out of my chair.

I am grateful that lynch turned out the way it did. Sweet is actually the demon that makes everyone sing and dance to their deaths in Once More With Feeling.

I am going to re read Kyle and (always..) Rabbit. I was not loving Kyle's explanations last night but it was very late and I was very tired. I am going to give that another go. Rabbit, is.. well.. Rabbit and I dont read him well because he always pings me no matter which role.

Linki: Kyle LOL. True story about SVS.

Says she's going to read kyle, not sure if this happened? I'd also note the Lorab reread never seemed to appear.



So I didn't get alot out of this, she didn't engage with all the players which could be a ping that they're mafia. From my ISO Lap, Nova, and Speed come out looking good. I'm shaky on lorab and Kyle, since she did say she'd look them over, but didn't.

I'll go for traditional wooden stake.

So my plan of action is to ISO illyra, good job guys. See who pushed the wagon who fought it ect. Whoever pushed for Illy is almost lock cleared civ, I do think depending on mafia levels one could have joined or her wagon early on, but I'd doubt they'd lead it.

I'm voting for Mac, he's playing very tame and I'm not sure I agree with this wagon.

Tomorrow after my test I'll buckle down and make some real reads/increase activity.

Hey promise I didn't forget about this game things are just a little hectic of Illyra doesn't flip mafia I want to lynch Mac or SVS.

Wait I just realized something which honestly shocks me that so many people didn't notice when they voted for DF. How can a mafia member in a teamchat be converted? That should've been reason enough to know he wasn't mafia from that slip. I think we should eye the people who switched last second to DF and the other main wagons. I feel like one of the players is mafia.

So speed or nutella which one of you is the vamp boss?

KYle hasn't stood out, but he hasn't done anything scummy. I'd rather wait to lynch him.

linki: It just seems like backpedaling now that your on the chopping block.

Nutella you were just defending DF, what changed?

I can't lynch Rabbit since his posts are so fun to read tbh.

I like Juliets's last post, but i'm still iffy on her.

DF hasn't posted much one way or another so I'm unsure on lynching him.

So did a quick ISO of juliets she did jump on DF, which after looking over does seem odd. Besides that she has given us alot of Game information, but not that much in way of reads. She's also asked a fair amount of questions which I like.

[mention]Juliet[/mention] Could you give me your top 3 civ/mafia reads.

SVS you shouldn't leave! Stick around play lots of game.

I don't like rabbits vote on me, it seems like a good way to avoid EOD. Like we've got a virtual 3 way tie and he votes for me based off of one line I said day 1?

Though an issue I'm having right now is that I don't like the original case agaisnt Speed, brought to us by SVS. However, I also don't like that nutella switched off based on the town firm thing.

linki: I'm feeling that, but still not sure.

I'm temporarily voting for Speed, I don't like nutella's switch or her reasoning.

I'm temporarily voting for Speed, I don't like nutella's switch or her reasoning.

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 11:38 pm Voting Wilgy because although he is often goofy I feel like he usually says at least something somewhat on topic by now, and because I don't want to vote out Loop before they have had a chance to play-- but please @Loop don't be shy, you can't just vote to play you have to post

This post is weird, but seeing how Loop didn't flip mafia it isn't as bad as earlier. I still find it strange you voted for Wilgy when he's never on topic day 1. Are you Glory.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:02 pm Or vote for Nova since two people will be lynched anyway

I'm not sure I like this, why Nova? Is there a reason for this vote or just because they're not as active.

And SVS seems to be being very aggressive this game? I'm not sure what to think of it.

linki: I don't see your hang up unless you're Spike.

I feel like that could be DF being mafia, but I don't see why Nutella would defend him unless they're both mafia members. Which seems odd.

linki: nutella is just pinging my scumradar/gut read

I also think we should be wary of players who're only talking mechanics and providing series information, I feel like the mafia is laying low right now.

Can someone quote DF's "slip" I found nutella's defense of DF so early and so fast to be odd.

I don't think Speed is mafia, I seem to remember civ reading him.

Just got back from being in class since like 9, so I'll be trying to catch up and post, but I need to do some hw so not promising much.

Or someone else who was suspicious of wilgy being mafia, this depends if glory is taking a more civ approach though in her killings

The glory kill doesn't make much sense I'm almost likely to say glory is illyra since she and wilgy had the most contact.

That was bloody.

Timmer being killed isn't bad but it isn't great. It all depends with the Indies how ppl play them. How's the mayor not human and aren't wearwolfs technically human?

I think it's safer to assume spike hit a non civ.

Someone (Mac?) Mentioned mafia killing low poster, this is true but jack is also a high speed player so it could be more along that logic then the clearing out inactive.

It was your question about Wilgy play style, I seem to remember you both being in multiple games together so it was strange you weren't aware of his play style.

linki:

Lorab is posting alot, I wanna town read her for the informational posts, but I'm holding back a bit.

Juliets post about Wilgy struck me as odd, I might've said this or just thought it?

I've got a gut mafia read of Wilgy.

I like Speed pointing out the hive mind thing, but I doubt all three mafia members would act that way.

SvS has a slight gut civ read.

Something nutella said seemed scummy, but I can't remember what so I'll need to look over that again.

I voted for Master since he isn't in the game and having never seen Buffy I don't have a favorite.

Just popping in before class, I forgot to switch my vote off of Mac sorry bout that. I'll catch up and post my thoughts this afternoon.

Also HA first Super Bowl win ever that's revenge for 2005.

Also I'm surprised juilets is voting for Jack, he's inactive now yes, but in general he's a strong townie. Lynching him for being inactive seems a tad preemptive.

Wilgy hasn't been as Wilgy like, but that's not a reason to vote for him.

linki: That also seems like a meh reason to vote for someone.