The Syndicate

I gotta say my night 2 actions did impress me. :P

And props to LC for being the friendliest SK ever

Lol obvs ignore my last post.


Yay game, first time I made it to end game in champions.

I figured I was sane after Mac flipped civ.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 5:40 pm

sig wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:24 pm Jusy popping in Kyle should kill Enrique tonight don't like his suggestion to delay

if you don't like it then tell me why you don't like it. it's not very constructive feedback.

unless you have an extremely pressing reason for why eko needs to die tonight specifically, I'm not doing that. if the mafia kills tonight then we'll know for certain whether or not eko is mafia without using any resources. if they don't kill at all then I'll kill eko the next night and then we can focus on taking out the assassin or w/e, but killing eko right now just because I can is redundant, and not an effective use of town resources.

That's from what I gathered the one way we plan to clear you correct? If so why wait, not to mention we've got no idea if there's only one mafia member left or whether the kill would be randomized if not put in or even if the kill will be blocked. Assuming no kill = bad Enrique is horrible logic and could result in a wasted day lynching an inactive player. It makes much more sense to kill him with a vig shot now.

Jusy popping in Kyle should kill Enrique tonight don't like his suggestion to delay

sig wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:27 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:16 pm That N3 looks like sig to me

Nay alas I'm all alone in this big wide game with no chats.

Also ignore Nova and relcock town me. I'm the towniest town that ever did town. I was one of the first to jump on board and then push for a Luna lynch when many players were attempting to clear her and I helped to convince multiple people who are now lock town that Luna should be voted for.


I think the questions re speed is do we believe his claim, does believing his claim make him a civ, and would three mafia members all be on a counterwagon to Luna? If she was saved it would've been very helpful, but based off what we've seen the mafia have been bussing each other so I'm unsure there.

Food for though, do we think we've got a seemer role going on and/or the assassin makes everyone they kill flip mafia? Maybe i'm just being paranoid, but it seems like we've been way to lucky this game.

EBWOP

Sprityo*

On the other hand I've been confident since day 1 that Blooper is town, so what sprityo does in my mind add weight to his claim.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:16 pm That N3 looks like sig to me

Nay alas I'm all alone in this big wide game with no chats.

Also ignore Nova and relcock town me. I'm the towniest town that ever did town. I was one of the first to jump on board and then push for a Luna lynch when many players were attempting to clear her and I helped to convince multiple people who are now lock town that Luna should be voted for.


I think the questions re speed is do we believe his claim, does believing his claim make him a civ, and would three mafia members all be on a counterwagon to Luna? If she was saved it would've been very helpful, but based off what we've seen the mafia have been bussing each other so I'm unsure there.

Food for though, do we think we've got a seemer role going on and/or the assassin makes everyone they kill flip mafia? Maybe i'm just being paranoid, but it seems like we've been way to lucky this game.

I do agree we should finish off the mafia and worry about the 3rd party later numbers are on our side so halting one night kill makes the most sense.

sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:33 pm in a 22 person game

5 mafia sounds about right

that means theres one left

i could also assume that it's instead two teams of three. but it just doesnt make sense to me that there's two teams

With 4 dead and all colored the same it would need to be a team of 4 and 2 or 4 and 3 so I'd say highly unlikely.

Assuming it's an sk making the kills I'd question why they'd be so civ aligned. Unless they thought quin/jay werent mafia. This leads me to believe they don't have a LMS type condition.

I'm leaning towards a 3p type role maybe one that has to align. That was a thing in a few games this year correct?

Or of course it could be an assassin vig.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:18 pm This feels too good to be true.

Agreed, was anyone hit by his power? As in had their vote multiplied if so they should claim just to check up.

It seems unlikely that the vig/sk/3p team have managed to hit 2 mafia members and we've lynched 2.

Haha told ya so. :P

Good job all around this time I'll be reading over what I missed later but barring the mafia doing more extreme busting and civs being very lucky I'd say Eloh isn't mafia. I'd say svs, nutella, and nova all look really good from this lynch virtually cleared.

Also I'm back to agreeing there's just one mafia team.

Yeah I really don't like that, usually when you fake claim you attempt to be as vague as possible so others can't call you out on it. Which is what she's doing right now.

Also nova's transition from voting me, which I believe he did earlier today to jumping on board the wagon I'm pushing is off putting.

I'm ready and willing to die with this Luna lynch, like no way is she civ imo. Eloh I don't really see the logic for voting her, but it isn't like I've had her as a civ so it winds up being a meh lynch for me. If she flips civ I do think it confirms that we need to lynch Luna tomorrow.

Can someone fill me in on the info Sprits got? Since it seemed from what I saw that he's just saying he thinks she's not bad not that he's a cop.

colonialbob wrote: ↑Sat Jan 12, 2019 2:22 pm @sig what made you change from two mafias being most likely secnario?

Re: wand - if it's a one-shot doesn't a baddie team try to save it until it actually matters? Was TH taking suspicion D1? Who (if anybody) pushed TH on D2?

Mainly the size of the game, unless we've got two very small team I think one slightly larger team makes more sense. Plus looking at how yesterday shook up I think there's a fair amount of teammate compatibility between Luna and DH.

Votes DH after this post from me, but then later says it was weird I didn't vote for him.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:02 pm

sig wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:46 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:41 pm

sig wrote: ↑Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:32 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:42 am

sig wrote: ↑Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:46 am So quick recap I thought the mafia killed Mac since he had names on his list. I still believe this is true anand recommend we look closely into DH and juliet, however atm I think we should be lynching Luna. She's been spared from a lynch twice with a non mafia being lynched each time.

Why are we isolating that one post and not, say, his harranguing of Quin?

Quin is dead and flipped mafia. However, I don't think they'd have killed him if he was right about just one person. So he probably had more mafia members on that list.

Mmmmmmmmmmmm it's a N1 kill. And it's Mac. And he was after Quin. I don't think they need a stronger reason.

But if mac was onto someone else, who would it be?

I think he was right about DH as well, I'm unsure about Juliet being mafia, but I'm leaning no atm.

I don't want to lynch blooper today, i've been gut reading her as good. I much prefer the Luna/DH near tie we've got going on.

LOL. okay, I'll tie it for you.

[VOTE: DharmaHelper] aubergine

Then she switches off of DH onto Jay, at this point going with my World 1 the mafia team decided to try to save both DH and Luna by redirected onto Jay who in theory should've been an easy target.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:45 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:41 pm I don’t love head-ass meat slabs/hot potatoes/fire drills but I also don’t love the two wagons

yeah, me neither, since I'm one of them. :P Also DH hasn't been around much today, and I feel bad lynching someone who's not around to defend themselves.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:47 pm the lynch today is quite boring, and I want to switch to Jay in case it takes off.

[VOTE: JJJ] aubergine

Then she winds up switching back to DH after the Jay wagon doesn't catch so she can get some civ credit for being the counterwagon to mafia and voting for him.

I also disagree with the ELoh vote and the reasoning Luna gave for it, seeing how she also pursued Jay for some time last phase. Plus Eloh vote didn't do anything, there wasn't a tie between DH and Luna when she voted or anything like that so while odd I wouldn't say her vote was damning.

[VOTE: Luna] aubergine nothing has changed for me. I see 3 worlds, for those unfamiliar worlds are different scenarios.

World 1 Most likely: Luna, Quin, and DH are all on the same team, after Quin was killed by a civ/3p they went into damage control. The chances of Luna getting lynched was high and as the day went on the chances of DH also getting lynched increased. They had to do some extreme distancing in an attempt to salvage one of them for awhile. This is given even more weight if you look at Luna's actions yesterday, multiple times she attempted to not vote for DH and tried to steer the wagon away from him and her onto another player. Leading me to believe they were still attempting to stop either lynch. She did this by trying to start a wagon on Jay, when this failed they reverted back to bussing. This is a very plausible theory for a good mafia team to attempt, I've seen it done and anyone who's been on a good mafia team know that weird ideas are bounced around. That's even more true here on TS where we've had mafia literally kill their own teammates to throw civs off the scent.

World 2 Possible: We have two small mafia teams I'm thinking 3 and 3 or perhaps 2 and 3. I don't believe this is impossible at all and will stand by this theory for awhile. Luna and DH are on different mafia teams, however she was up for a lynch three times, two of these times a non mafia member was lynched. Yesterday DH was lynched instead and flipped mafia he was very very pissed about this. I see two reasons for that
World 2A: His team didn't kill Mac which set off his wagon, ergo he got lynched for something he had nothing to do with.
World 2B: Quin his teammate was killed by someone, I believe it's possible this was by the other mafia team which again would make him unhappy.

This is less likely, but still possible.

World 3 highly unlikely: Luna is a civ and was just a bad counterwagon for the first few phases. Followed by being the counterwagon for DH who was mafia. Normally I'd say this makes her more likely to be a civ, however her actions surrounding the DH lynch and last phase as well as how quickly she attempted to jump on me when I suggested she might not be civ leads me to believe she's mafia.

Finally I think the people saying this is unlikely or impossible haven't played enough games with a mafia DH or remember how skilled he can be. I think it's not only plausible, but likely that they came up with a bussing strategy once it became clear that one of them could be lynched.

Not to mention even when Luna was bussing DH she was still attempting to find another wagon and lead the lynch away from both of them.

The other option ofc, which makes more sense, is we have two teams, the other team killed quin which is why DH was mad since the main reason he got votes was due to something outside his control.

Also any words I've spelt horribly wrong sorry. My phone is all kinds of messed up atm and autocorrecting thing wrong left and right.

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:58 pm

sig wrote: ↑Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:56 pm It's almost like I've never played a game with nutella before.

Here's the deal if yall wanna be dumb enough to lynch me again for no reason have it. I'm not going to throw a fit and fight it to much since honestly I'm both too busy and don't feel like dealing with this every game I play anymore.

Anyone that thinks I'm scum for I guess not voting for DH and still saying we should lynch Luna needs to reevaluate sinxe that's the only thing they've got going for them. None of these people have bothered addressing what I said about Luna re Jay or are even willing to contemplate distancing or two teams which is sooooo dumb considering this is both an Epi game and the goc.

I don't understand how you can possibly see a world in which DH and Luna are teammates. Unless you know they are because you're on their team and watched them orchestrate the greatest distancing ploy of the decade.

It seems like you're forgetting how skilled DH is at mafia. Also lol I'm outting two teammates since I'm in there chat. Do you realize how bizarre and tunnely you sound.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:18 pm

sig wrote: ↑Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:53 am

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:23 am In what way did you advocate for DH's lynch? You spent the whole day saying shit like "yeah dh is probably bad but we should focus on lynching luna today. yeah let's just lynch luna but dh is bad k"

No I've said all day both are bad and both should he lynched why try to flip the narrative and redirect away from luna?

Low-key complaining about a scumlynch?

I'm complaining that people are auto clearing Luna for no reason what so ever.

It's almost like I've never played a game with nutella before.

Here's the deal if yall wanna be dumb enough to lynch me again for no reason have it. I'm not going to throw a fit and fight it to much since honestly I'm both too busy and don't feel like dealing with this every game I play anymore.

Anyone that thinks I'm scum for I guess not voting for DH and still saying we should lynch Luna needs to reevaluate sinxe that's the only thing they've got going for them. None of these people have bothered addressing what I said about Luna re Jay or are even willing to contemplate distancing or two teams which is sooooo dumb considering this is both an Epi game and the goc.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:42 am

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Fri Jan 11, 2019 8:15 am Yeah that feels super helpful. I didn’t see it coming by EOD so kudos to those whose radars are better tuned than mine.

I have entertained the notion of nutella being scum based on her attested history of bussing, but ... I don’t think so this time.

The fact that DH was the one accusing nutella of bussing makes her look a lot better after his flip.

Nope it doesn't at all, it's a classic distancing move that made perfect sense for DH to use once it was obvious he'd be lynched.

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:23 am In what way did you advocate for DH's lynch? You spent the whole day saying shit like "yeah dh is probably bad but we should focus on lynching luna today. yeah let's just lynch luna but dh is bad k"

No I've said all day both are bad and both should he lynched why try to flip the narrative and redirect away from luna?


To Luna comment did I actual vote for him no, it wasn't needed yet I repeatedly said I was just as happy with his lynch as I was with Luna. Who i still believe 100% is mafia. It would make the most sense if we had two teams and she was on the other one, but even if we dont I believe what we saw was a distancing attempt by mafia today from nutella, Luna, and DH.

Why am I the only ones they're focusing on here? Many people didn't vote for DH some even tried to switch away from DH and Luna altogether including Luna.

Also nutellas first quote makes no sense? Why include that but not my other fluff.

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:20 am

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:56 pmsig is bad.

Could be on to something. Let's get some reactions.

Makes no sense, I was one of the first people to back up Mac's theory and advocated for lynching dh all phase. The only non civ thing I've done would be my push for sloonie, but I believed that was best.

Tomorrow we should lynch Luna I still believe she's not civ I think the mafia was stuck between a. rock and a hard place with the lynch today and attempted to distance the two while low key attempting to switch the lynch.


I think we have 3 more mafia members among them nutella, Luna, and one other who's probably been lying low.

Both nutella and Luna attempted to redirect the wagon onto Jay and after a quick skim I think the argument between DH and nutella seemed fake.

I'm liking this DH lynch, his last few post solidifies it for me. I'm still down to lynch Luna tomorrow especially since she briefly tried to switch and form a wagon on jay.

Elon is being a bit strange, but not quite teammate strange.

I'm kinda getting tired if Jay's letter posting, I seem to recall he's done this before. Can't remember what game or alignment so that's something to check.

I'd say we only have one mafia team or perhaps two small ones, if so DH could've been Quins only teammate.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:41 pm

sig wrote: ↑Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:32 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:42 am

sig wrote: ↑Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:46 am So quick recap I thought the mafia killed Mac since he had names on his list. I still believe this is true anand recommend we look closely into DH and juliet, however atm I think we should be lynching Luna. She's been spared from a lynch twice with a non mafia being lynched each time.

Why are we isolating that one post and not, say, his harranguing of Quin?

Quin is dead and flipped mafia. However, I don't think they'd have killed him if he was right about just one person. So he probably had more mafia members on that list.

Mmmmmmmmmmmm it's a N1 kill. And it's Mac. And he was after Quin. I don't think they need a stronger reason.

But if mac was onto someone else, who would it be?

I think he was right about DH as well, I'm unsure about Juliet being mafia, but I'm leaning no atm.

I don't want to lynch blooper today, i've been gut reading her as good. I much prefer the Luna/DH near tie we've got going on.

colonialbob wrote: ↑Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:54 am @JaggedJimmyJay
@sig
@juliets
@Long Con
@S~V~S
@nutella

Do you want to make a point or do you want to make a change? Do you want to get something off your chest, or do you want to get something done?

I pick option D none of the above. Unless this is one of those questions where there's an option E which is all of the above in which case I refuse to answer on principle.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:42 am

sig wrote: ↑Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:46 am So quick recap I thought the mafia killed Mac since he had names on his list. I still believe this is true anand recommend we look closely into DH and juliet, however atm I think we should be lynching Luna. She's been spared from a lynch twice with a non mafia being lynched each time.

Why are we isolating that one post and not, say, his harranguing of Quin?

Quin is dead and flipped mafia. However, I don't think they'd have killed him if he was right about just one person. So he probably had more mafia members on that list.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Jan 08, 2019 11:17 pm Times up @sig

You can come after me anyday.

So quick recap I thought the mafia killed Mac since he had names on his list. I still believe this is true anand recommend we look closely into DH and juliet, however atm I think we should be lynching Luna. She's been spared from a lynch twice with a non mafia being lynched each time.

Some players are lost in the traffic circle curse those darn traffic circles.

[mention]JaggedJimmyJay[/mention] [mention]ColinIsCool[/mention] [mention] sprityo[/mention] [mention] Elohcin[/mention] [mention]juliets[/mention] [mention]speedchuck[/mention]

Y'all are lost on the road to lynchbadistan, see you seem to be driving backwards to the city of waaaaatidom. Y'all wanna do a 180 very fast and take a right.

Y'all are over here taking a left when you should be going right, so turn around and take a right turn instead of a left got it guys?

[mention]nijuukyugou[/mention],
[mention]DharmaHelper[/mention]
[mention]colonialbob[/mention]
[mention]Quin[/mention]
[mention] novaselinenever,[/mention]

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jan 04, 2019 11:53 pm Confirmed Mafia team =

DharmaHelper, Quin, Juliets and Sloonei

This man knew where he was going, just needed to keep driving straight instead of taking that right turn into the rope.

I reckon you gotta head over past the barn make two left turns then double back into the traffic circle.

Town has to take a hard left turn today and make sure not to make a U-turn to what we were doing yesterday.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 03, 2019 7:29 pm Mac is just having fun making up some bullshit it's ok

Teammate link identified! How else would Nutella know what Mac is doing.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 03, 2019 7:15 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Dec 31, 2018 11:40 pm Are we 100% sure rule 13 is correct. I mean isnt it a Tuesday for Mac. Ergo are any of the rules real. Are we real? Is the game real.

sig wrote: ↑Mon Dec 31, 2018 11:41 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Mon Dec 31, 2018 10:59 pm Hello everyone.

I'm drinking at home tonight, unlike the rest of you who are no doubt out somewhere having fun.

I'm not sure who to vote for or what to vote for yet so I'll wait until some more of you show up to discuss. Happy New Year!

Are you mafia again.

Two more emojis in his early posts. This guy is clearly Mafia. He's trying to use emojis to soften the tone of his posts to avoid a severe response.

I frequently use emojis it's NAI, something I'd think you'd know.

sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Jan 03, 2019 5:11 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Jan 03, 2019 5:56 am

sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Jan 03, 2019 4:56 am SVS got “MEat”



Silly man capitalized me in meat, everyone point and laugh at the skeleton

1) no I didn't , and

2) why did you single me out out of the three people that could have gotten it? Know something the rest of us do not?

I’m about to freaking rant because I can NEVER make a freaking joke apparently, Jesus Christ why do you think you’re so special because I forgot to put the other two people? I literally put below that clarified. Don’t try to throw shade and dont be so freaking picky.

NOT EVERYTHING IS SUSPICIOUS!

Mini-rant done.

I GTH it as how I remember civ Blooper posting. Granted its been awhile, but it's what I recall.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Jan 03, 2019 5:02 pm

sig wrote: ↑Thu Jan 03, 2019 4:57 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Jan 03, 2019 4:55 pm

Spoiler: show

Elohcin wrote: ↑Thu Jan 03, 2019 4:38 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Jan 03, 2019 12:08 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jan 03, 2019 11:49 am

Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Jan 03, 2019 11:46 am

I suspect people who like other people's posts.

I like people who suspect other people's posts.

I didn't like Nijus post, so I am not surprised sig did.

I was not trying for an object so thanks for the people who voted for me. I got a fun thing (no meat; I'm a vegan so that would have been kinda weird) and hopefully it isn't cursed.

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Jan 03, 2019 10:54 am

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 01, 2019 12:11 am How is everyone deciding their selections regarding each item and, more significantly, each player?

I’m going to wait on my selections for now and null over this some more upon my return.

Hi MP, glad to have you in the game.

I notice you didn't vote for people or objects. Why is that?

You know why that is; he is barely here and he called this is comeback game in the signups, iirc. This post from you feels forced, like you are trying to build on something. Maybe I am fixated on you becasue I agreed with Macs initial point about you, but this jumped out at me.

That and sprityo specifically saying I got that meat, when two other people could have gotten it as well. I realize he was making a risque joke of sorts which would be funnier with a female as the foil, but why me and not Luna? Did he maybe know that Luna did not get any meat?

I don't like how SVS is defending MP so much right from the start when he hasn't done a thing to prove he is civ. And I think she is reaching with her talk on Sprit.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 03, 2019 1:10 pm Town:
Sig
SVS
LC
Nova
Mac
Jay

Meh:
MP
Juliets
Speed
DH
Niju

No impression: anyone I didn't mention

If you want to do this on day 1, fine...but give us some reason at least. I don't trust anyone who just throws out names.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 03, 2019 4:00 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Jan 03, 2019 3:55 pm Day one is always so slow. Mac is voting Juliets because he thinks she's too worried about looking good, and Sloonei is voting TH because Turnip said "thanks" twice. Can we get some good finger pointing and discussions going?

You’ve got 10 perfectly good fingers yourself. I assume. Sorry for being ableist.

We definitely need like buttons for posts. I was thinking the same thing but I couldn't have put it better.

Whatcha thinkin' Luna? Who do you have your eye on?

Lovely content Eloh.
As far as where my thoughts are at, I know I jokingly made a comment toward sig that I don't trust people who like my posts, but it's sort of true, and I also don't like his earlier post here:

sig wrote: ↑Wed Jan 02, 2019 9:58 pm I dislike Juliets big post about her votes, seemed very in depth and scummy.

Mac is playing differently then his last few games tone wise which could mean he's mafia or that he's just taking this game more serious. Either way I'd watch him.

Svs seems badish so she's probably good.
Nova has also posted early this game so omma throw a few civ points his way.

I get that Juliet's post could come across scummy, but I think she would make that same kind of post as town too, and the fact that sig goes after her for it makes him look like he's just looking for an easy target. Also in the same post he suspects Mac for "playing differently" even though he is clearly wrapped up in an intense end game with A World Asunder.
Giving people civ cred never makes much since to me unless they've done something hugely civ. I don't see that here with SVS or Nova, but sig throws some civ cred their way anyways.

Stop persecuting me.

not persecuting you, only your potential role.

Tots feeling the persecution.