The Syndicate

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 5:00 pm

sig wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 4:59 pm I'm telling you once I'm gone lynch nova.

Literally like just do it.

Bye Felicia

Gonna look real bad when your wrong

rude

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 4:59 pm sabie12 has not answered my question.

And she's here avoiding laying low.

Go for it take her out

I'm telling you once I'm gone lynch nova.

Literally like just do it.

Tedexter wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 4:58 pm What if i ninja on sig

Would make you look real bad.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 4:57 pm

sig wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 4:55 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 4:53 pm

sig wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 4:52 pm Nova over here lining up every easily lynching player as mafia.

Well, they're not going to lynch themselves.

He's targeting the easy to lynch players, hoping the big ones go along with it. Enrique/Creature are lurkering more or less and couldn't convince people otherwise, sab is already up so if she flips civ its well I told you not her or well yeah she's mafia but so is sig

He's setting it up so if I get lynched and when I flip civ he can jump on the Sab wagon.

If she flips instead and goes mafia he can keep pushing me.

So...what you're telling me is...you're fucked either way you figure it.

No since we flip Sab today hope hse's mafia that confirms Nova is and if she's civ then we still lynch Nova since he's mafia.

sig wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 4:56 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 4:48 pm

Tedexter wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 4:47 pm it's in the op but like still, i didn't even know and she came saying there's a scum rolecop mhm

Probably Doc and figured she got copped by Mafia, and they want her gone. Use your imagination.

Right here so sucmmy no way can she be docter DOC IS DEAD

He's not only trying to push me but save Sab.

Never mind I meant role cop either way

The chances of her being that role is slim to none anyway not a good reason to say lynch sig instead.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 4:48 pm

Tedexter wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 4:47 pm it's in the op but like still, i didn't even know and she came saying there's a scum rolecop mhm

Probably Doc and figured she got copped by Mafia, and they want her gone. Use your imagination.

Right here so sucmmy no way can she be docter DOC IS DEAD

He's not only trying to push me but save Sab.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 4:53 pm

sig wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 4:52 pm Nova over here lining up every easily lynching player as mafia.

Well, they're not going to lynch themselves.

He's targeting the easy to lynch players, hoping the big ones go along with it. Enrique/Creature are lurkering more or less and couldn't convince people otherwise, sab is already up so if she flips civ its well I told you not her or well yeah she's mafia but so is sig

He's setting it up so if I get lynched and when I flip civ he can jump on the Sab wagon.

If she flips instead and goes mafia he can keep pushing me.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 4:52 pm

sig wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 4:50 pm I'm not mafia, I'm not convinced Sab is buuuut I am convinced that Nova is.

Die.

Once I flip civ, they better come for you. Whom I've been right about all game.

Nova over here lining up every easily lynching player as mafia.

I'm not mafia, I'm not convinced Sab is buuuut I am convinced that Nova is.

I don't like how Epi keeps pingponging back and forth on this vote.

Can we lynch nova tomorrow then?

Tedexter wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 4:38 pm @sig vote sabie i gotta save you bro

[VOTE: Sab] aubergine

Really most of the votes on me make no sense.

Nova has been going after me for awhile, okay that's whatever.

All the other ones are meh votes from meh not active players. Like they're less active then I am at this point.

linki: [mention]Epignosis[/mention] Not lynching me?

Wow there woooow if aka when Sig flips civ oooor wait lets not flip sig and get our shit together?

Rej wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2020 11:38 pm [VOTE: sig] aubergine
I will trust novas, if he is wrong then he is a powerwolf

Why trust Noba what has he done that's townie at all? He didn't go after Dom at all our only flipped mafia and have instead just tunneled on me without ever after giving a good reason or building a case I can defend against it's all based off this idea of trust that makes no sense given that all the potential tmi roles are gone.

No join me and lynch nova

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2020 6:28 pm Also I’m not pushing you, what are you even talking about

Your an independent read of Mac. But still could be mafia.

Nova is for sure mafia.

And if I had to throw in another I guess id go with Enrique/another lurker.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2020 6:26 pm

sig wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2020 6:25 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2020 6:20 pm Not sure if it means something but Dom/NP's secret in his role didn't flip but Mac/Priest's did with the latter being the usual norm I think.

Could mafia have a strawman/joker ability?

Check your chat.

So glad your trying to game solve, instead of either just tunneling in the dumbest way possible or your mafia. Either way its hella obvious and if nobody else wants to look at it whatever.

And I'll defend my mac thoughts for ever he was playing outside of meta and barely contributing. Coming in and not even giving a very basic reasons for most of his reads and always will vote for his teammates.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2020 6:20 pm Not sure if it means something but Dom/NP's secret in his role didn't flip but Mac/Priest's did with the latter being the usual norm I think.

Could mafia have a strawman/joker ability?

Lynching me still makes no sense. Theres no case on me and literally no reason to suspect I'm mafia at this point. Now I was wrong on Mac but his death was obviously done to further the attempt to lynch me by what must be nanook/nova team.

Then you've got Creature who literally just votes no question asks beginning of day. This is going to shape up just like the ET lynch if town just blindly votes for me.

I'll need to reread Rej since he hasn't seemed scummy to me.

Ten minutes is more then enough time to change things especially with Dom being active nearly to the end and Epi voting for Enrique we could've tied it in a world where we're both mafia. Buuuuut, we aren't since the real mafia buddies are you and Dom.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Jan 09, 2020 12:03 am Mac bussing makes no fucking sense here, and he's been town as fuck throughout the game before this. This should lock creature and the PoE is down to Sig, Enrique and Sprit.

And how? Like I just said when Mac voted Dom wasn't at risk of being lynched he has done nothing overly town this game at all. He pops in makes a few posts doesn't really contribute and leaves.

And how does this lock creature? You're again doing what I've said before.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Jan 09, 2020 12:08 am

sig wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 7:53 pm Actually nevermind this ends at seven I don't want that close a margin on me

Voting Dom

Translation -

"My buddy is going to flip Network President. It's going to look real awkward if I don't vote there"

The score was 4-3 when I switched my vote aka 3-3, so in your world my buddy, who you spent forever trying to go after me with, got my vote for reasons. That literally makes no sense, we were both here and could've easily created any other wagon.

Full stop I was the reason he got lynched as you parked your vote on me the counterwagon to Dom. Now you're trying to deflect away from your vote and the Dom flip and get me lynched.

Again when I switched to him it took it from a tie to him getting lynched. You also never even expressed suspicion so don't go trying to completely turn this around on me.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 11:21 pm

sig wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:46 pm

sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:39 pm Also:

NANOOKofhearts2005 vibes is what I’m feeling rn

Right? I think he slipped up on his own meta analysis and I think he realized he had to switch his game since he just won as scum.

Dom/Nanook/ and either Nova or Mac

with a likelihood that either Nove/Mac are third party. Why do I keep rolling back to that? Since I don't think nova/Mac are playing within their civ meta and both have done enough to make me feel off for reasons I've already said.

Yeah why would I know my own meta

You left out half of said meta until I mentioned it though.

sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:39 pm Also:

NANOOKofhearts2005 vibes is what I’m feeling rn

Right? I think he slipped up on his own meta analysis and I think he realized he had to switch his game since he just won as scum.

Dom/Nanook/ and either Nova or Mac

with a likelihood that either Nove/Mac are third party. Why do I keep rolling back to that? Since I don't think nova/Mac are playing within their civ meta and both have done enough to make me feel off for reasons I've already said.

Enrique, Nova, Mac, Nanook, and Spirtyo are whom I'm eyeing right now.

Nova/Mac are top two followed by Nanook.
Enrique/Sprityo are more meh reads

Tedexter wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 8:42 pm He was the second voter

Plus he’s got swag

And by the way, Dom, there were a lot of stuff that made you scum. The “in your face thing” was barely adding any value to the case.

I think I can read you fairly easy though, so I’ll be glad to put your theory to the test and you can always prove me wrong.

But your little outburst is also from scum mentality, “yeah i’m scum but the reasons you’re calling me scum for absolutely suck”

Interesting is that you and Epi both focused on that more than the other points. You are triggered by that and Epi tried to focus on that to tip me off. Hmmmmm.

I will be back later with probably a huge case on who the other scum are and the towns etc etc

Good job towns

No 100% Mac will hard bus and has done nothing to earn civ credit. Like at all. Especially considering he was always net -1 Epi switched off me prior to which I voted for Dom.

Once you take into vote manipulation I was a sealing vote there, while Mac dropped an early vote and wasn't around for EOD it doesn't clear him at all or really Creature as much. The only one coming out looking great is Sab since she was active when he was lynched. I don't agree with calling locktown so early especially when he could take a negative vote.

I;ll also stand with Epi here since from a Meta stand point he always has the in your face style. That's how he plays as both civ/mafia ask anyone familiar with his meta.

I'm curious why you immediately turn to Epi and not nova who was actively trying to build a counter wagon.

Tedexter wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 8:20 pm Mac locked town, Creature locked town, sabie is trending upwards again

Town squad

I'd lock creature/sabie

Mac will bus hard so I'd not clear

If we wanna change course I'd be down like I said dom is Dom reading him is difficult for me, but I know I'm civ, and he didn't try to build a case against anyone just voted for me.

I'd prefer Nova, Mac or Nanook.

Actually nevermind this ends at seven I don't want that close a margin on me

Voting Dom

I could totally see a Nova/Nanook and one other probably someone laying low/not active team.

[VOTE: Nova] aubergine

I'll roll with this, I'd go for a Nanook vote to if we can muster it.

I'm not against Dom, I see the points being made against him, but he's literally playing the way he always does so far.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 7:47 pm [VOTE: sig] aubergine

You don't even have a vote on the board.

Let's fix that.

Rude.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 6:56 pm

sig wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 6:36 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 8:45 pm @sig @Enrique @Nanook

who should we lynch and why

For Nova if I'm getting what Epi is laying down plus and more importantly how it seems like he's setting up lynches.

What has Epi laid down? Setting up lynch seems like a sensational summary to what I'm doing, is having a PoE and trying to work it something you've never seen before?

Nova pushed the ET lynch to a degree and lock cleared ET based off of ET flipping mafia, one of his first posts was unclearing Creature and laying groundwork against him.

You're just narrating what I've done. Is something wrong with any of those things? Also I believe I locked Creature thinking he was Sleazy when TSP flipped non-Sleazy, if you notice I only locked him past N1 when TSP flipped. Not after the D1 lynch. The one based off of ET flipping Mafia was Dom who I said looked alright but should be locked if ET flips scum. Do you disagree with having that thought seeing their interactions?

He's also slowly building a case on me, based on what I already said with him asking Dom. He did the same thing, but more generally with Epi. I personally feel like he's trying to lead town to more lynches, but these lynches aren't in towns best interest and he's trying not to be seen as a the real pusher of lynches so when people flip civ he can't be blamed for it.

I'm building a case on you 'cause I suspect you. It not something new at all, I mentioned having bad feelings about you since D1 I believe. What have I done generally with Epi? He's been a strong town read of mine for a while now. I'm being pretty vocal about who I suspects and it ain't no secret, so I'm not sure how I'm trying to absolve myself from blame. "Trying to lead town to more lynches" is a hella of a spin, I mean townies try to lynches people they suspect lol. You're not even getting to the meat of my posts and judging me to figure me out, this is some surface-level fear-mongering bullshit.

I'm only hesitant of voting for Nova since Nanook is on it and he's only on it based off of what Epi said. I'm still a bit meh on Nanook and if Epi thinks Nova is mafia why hasn't he voted there? That entire thing is a bit weird, but my other point is independent of Epi/Nanook.

I'm not narrating what you've done in any way, shape, or form. And you're 100% attempting to lead town without leading them based around how your asking questions and the type your asking. Re ET, approaching this from the perspective you have TMI it makes perfect sense to lock clear Creature, then when ET flips immediately go back on it, it's a set up strategy for a future lynch. If you knew ET would flip civ, which if you're mafia you'd know.

Re Epi, when you directly asked him who he suspects. I'm not saying you think he's mafia. However, it rubbed me the wrong way how you asked him and only him. Again it seems like an attempt to get other people to do the work for you.

This also isn't a surface level/fear mongering at all.
1. almost nobody suspects you and there's no real movement against you.
2. This is looking at your playstyle and general thought process it doesn't require me to pull up quotes on everything you said since it's based off of an overall strategy.
3. The fact you're trying to spin what I said into a fear mongering type thing means that I'm probably right.

sabie12 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 6:19 pm

Tedexter wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 2:14 pm Sabie why aren't you voting Dom if he's so anti-town?

I've been at work intermittently checking this. Read through him again gave him a chance to respond. Eh He doesn't seem too different from his last game where he was bad aside from doing a lot more quoting of other posts.

[VOTE: dom] aubergine

Can you give a quick summary of how he seems the same?

The follow up on those three would be Nanook who I talked about and I need to reread case on Dom/ISO him real fast.

[mention]Epignosis[/mention] Why Nova?

Dom wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 8:45 pm @sig @Enrique @Nanook

who should we lynch and why

Mac: While I don't doubt he's busy he isn't helping when he's here and seems to keyed in for the level of participation. The biggest issue is he keeps throwing out names, but never giving any reasoning for his votes/reads when asked he still refuses to give them. Not even weaker reasons like gut/meta just nothing. He's giving the civs nothing to go on when he flips and I don't really see a world where a civ Mac would do that. Now I think it's a possibility that he's the Toad, but really I'm fine with lynching that role also.
Or
Nova/Enrique

Other have talked about why Enrique would be an okay lynch and I agree with them.
For Nova if I'm getting what Epi is laying down plus and more importantly how it seems like he's setting up lynches.

Nova pushed the ET lynch to a degree and lock cleared ET based off of ET flipping mafia, one of his first posts was unclearing Creature and laying groundwork against him. He's also slowly building a case on me, based on what I already said with him asking Dom. He did the same thing, but more generally with Epi. I personally feel like he's trying to lead town to more lynches, but these lynches aren't in towns best interest and he's trying not to be seen as a the real pusher of lynches so when people flip civ he can't be blamed for it.

I'm only hesitant of voting for Nova since Nanook is on it and he's only on it based off of what Epi said. I'm still a bit meh on Nanook and if Epi thinks Nova is mafia why hasn't he voted there? That entire thing is a bit weird, but my other point is independent of Epi/Nanook.

Enrique seems like an easy lynch, it's possible he's mafia but he's a bit of a low hanging fruit.

Really i think right now the best place to vote would be on Mac, but I should be around and I'm willing to go for someone else.

I also don't see why we're handing civs to mafia on a silver platter by making read lists at night ya know when they're deciding who to kill

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 12:20 am @Dom thoughts on sig?

See this feels fake af

Why ask one of the players who openly expressed suspicion of me, it's fake hype and conformation biasish.

I don't like the way nova is reading me right now, not only is he not making a solid case but his prompts as seen above and for other people have been scummy.

Re Dom, and his point on me about Sab. That was an early game tone based read. I didn't try to lynch on it and when she posted more I shifted. Very weak reasoning to pursue a Sig lynch, but Dom always tries to get me lynched when I'm a civ.

Literally the only reason people have against me right now is something something no case (Mac)
Or he developed his read of Sab after a tone/poke early day 1 read. Neither is good enough to lynch.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:04 pm The fact remains that there was a "tie" and Long Con got lynched.

Does anyone dispute this?

Which must mean either Bender voted for LC or someone else also has vote manipulation they used D1.

sabie12 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:53 pm Right now I dont feel great about sig. In the sense that he is trying to cast suspicion on me for just posting an intro into the game and then tried buddying me and then called me a wallflower which I actually hate on a personal level but that's my fault for being personally offended by a comment that I'm sure wasn't meant to be.
Doms posts are a whole lot of quoting things with short responses and not much to go on
Mac is not really doing much to go off of
Meh I'll look more tomorrow

Nova epi and creature seemed like their usual civ selves

My hearts just not in it tonight. I'm going to have to come back to this tomorrow maybe I'll feel better then.

Am I not allowed to to poke is that not the point of this? Seems like faulty logic, especially since it was obviously a poke and then when I got enough backed off.

Also I called Mac the wallflower not you, massive distinction there is that he's present and just not really posting on content. You just weren't active there's a difference. and sorry if it offended you <3 it's an older jargon that slips up for lurker

TLDR: sig is nice and amazing you shouldn't suspect him or the eternal fires of Mount Doom will await you.

sabie12 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 11:22 am Hello all! Looks like we're off to great start already.

[mention]novaselinenever[/mention]

Intro post, it gut pinged me. So I poked her. When she started to post she did so within her civ meta so I changed my mind and in fact defended her.

linki: ya gonna bother explaining why or just keep being a wall flower?

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 8:29 pm

sig wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 10:23 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 9:39 pm I think sabie is one scum

Could see this.

Why is this a thing?

I didn't like how she came into the game and wanted to poke her. After getting more out of her I changed my mind. I also don't like how few people you have in POE, what reasoning do you have to civ read them?

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 8:05 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 7:16 pm I'm calling it now Nova/Mac/Nanook one is the toad.

what the fuck does this mean?

What do you mean? This is a super clear statement.

I'm throwing out the guess based off of there posts/gut that one is the third party.

Like I said very clear.

I'm calling it now Nova/Mac/Nanook one is the toad.