The Syndicate

Enrique wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 3:30 pm
Tranq wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 3:29 pm
Enrique wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 3:27 pm Can the Tranq stuff be explained by an item?
Nope.
A location?

Nope.

Enrique wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 3:27 pm Can the Tranq stuff be explained by an item?

Nope.

This is a very weird game

^I mean DDL.

[mention]Quin[/mention] why did you vote for Epignosis?

I'm down with lynching sig, Sprityo, DLL, Colin.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 20, 2018 2:22 am I have stupid reasons to believe Sig or Sloonei is a dragon.

Fire cannot kill a dragon (if LC uses GoT lore)

I voted for Cataclysm earlier today, now i'm thinking i might change it

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Wed Dec 19, 2018 3:52 pm
LoRab wrote: ↑Wed Dec 19, 2018 3:49 pm Mentaobjectiforth sounds fun. Also, I don't trust the idea of cataclysm in a Rock Con game. That sounds scary.
Just...do it?

Cataclysm is the name of a Serial Killer role from A World Reborn though.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Dec 19, 2018 2:40 pm
Tranq wrote: ↑Wed Dec 19, 2018 6:51 am So let's assume Savage Pixie didn't kill nutella then.
nutella is a smart player who's usually well aware of the roles so i think she would try to avoid the water squares.
From your POV, that leaves DDL as Dark Worshipper or random mafia member. Why isn't he an immediate priority lynching again?
that's what i've been saying, my dude

But you said the opposite here:

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Dec 17, 2018 10:29 pm i don't think i'd consider DDL an immediate priority for lynching specifically unless he's mafia,

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed Dec 19, 2018 10:07 am
Enrique wrote: ↑Wed Dec 19, 2018 9:53 am
Tranq wrote: ↑Wed Dec 19, 2018 6:32 am @Enrique let's compare notes. Do you have any reason to think Colin might be civ?
Nope.
Me neither.

Me neither.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed Dec 19, 2018 10:15 am Good

colonialbob
DharmaHelper
Enrique
Epignosis
Jackofhearts2005
LoRab
MacDougall
Quin
SVS
speedchuck

Please lynch

Dana
Dragon D. Luffy
G-Man
insertnamehere
sabie12
Sloonei
Sorsha
Tranq
timmer

I can clear 3, probably 4 names on your Lynch list.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Dec 18, 2018 9:11 pm
Tranq wrote: ↑Tue Dec 18, 2018 9:11 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Dec 17, 2018 10:29 pm if everything we've been told and everything we're assuming is true is true, and also DDL killed nutella, then DDL is one of the following, ranked from most civ to least civ:

savage pixie: i think this role is the most likely of these to be civ, since it can identify corpses.

Sakana Sashimi: i think this is probably an indie role since their kill count was increased for balance purposes, this possibility only applies if nutella died in the water

Dark Woshipper: DDL himself described this role as a probable hostile indie role, and it seems apt, since

a member of the mafia who just happened to carry out the kill on nutella, if Turnip Head was the one killed by the mafia then that makes this one obsolete.

i don't think i'd consider DDL an immediate priority for lynching specifically unless he's mafia, the Dark Worshipper does look dangerous and would be good to be rid of sooner or later for sure, but sakana sashimi can basically only kill people who decide to go swimming for some reason, and savage pixie has clear posititve utility.
Why would the Savage Pixie, if civ, use their one time kill on nutella Night 1?
i don't believe the savage pixie would do that.

nutella was far from a strong suspect of anyone

So let's assume Savage Pixie didn't kill nutella then.
nutella is a smart player who's usually well aware of the roles so i think she would try to avoid the water squares.
From your POV, that leaves DDL as Dark Worshipper or random mafia member. Why isn't he an immediate priority lynching again?

[mention]Dragon D. Luffy[/mention] do you have any reads on Kyle?

[mention]Enrique[/mention] let's compare notes. Do you have any reason to think Colin might be civ?

A nova or sig lynch sounds fine to me. Poll ends after 4am my time so...guess i'm waking up then to see if i need to change my vote or not

Ok so if the players who voted for me could switch their votes to someone else, that would be great. I'm a civ. Colin's vote especially sucks, he didn't even acknowledge any of the posts i made today

Should i leave my vote on sig or are y'all about to CFD nova or something?

linki: Dear god...please catch up and revisit your vote, Timmer.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 18, 2018 2:29 pm Anybody know where Timmer scampered off to?

Anyone have a reason to trust Timmer?

I can't mechanically clear Timmer but his posts early in the game had me leaning civ.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:36 am Is this why you voted for sig, or was there another reason?

He has more votes than me, he's on [mention]Jackofhearts2005[/mention]'s shortlist as a potential DH killer, he generally has given me no reason to think he might be civ.

LC usually writes failed kills in his posts. He did in A World Reborn and i remember he did in other games aswell. You've played lots of BR/LC games SVS, i'm surprised you're even asking this question

Quintessential Cat's role, for example, mentions "nightkills appear blocked".

This is why i'm a dog person.

Quin wrote: ↑Tue Dec 18, 2018 5:16 am sig is actually confirmed town if you read the thread but ok

I read the thread...most of it. Which post are you talking about?

sig wrote: ↑Tue Dec 18, 2018 12:27 am Oh and someone tried to kill me last night, they failed. Drunken Epi said he was trying to kill someone I assume it was me. The same person who I called out and said if he was alive to long should be lynched. Just gonna throw that out there.

If this is true why doesn't the Night Post mention a failed kill attempt on you?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Dec 17, 2018 10:29 pm if everything we've been told and everything we're assuming is true is true, and also DDL killed nutella, then DDL is one of the following, ranked from most civ to least civ:

savage pixie: i think this role is the most likely of these to be civ, since it can identify corpses.

Sakana Sashimi: i think this is probably an indie role since their kill count was increased for balance purposes, this possibility only applies if nutella died in the water

Dark Woshipper: DDL himself described this role as a probable hostile indie role, and it seems apt, since

a member of the mafia who just happened to carry out the kill on nutella, if Turnip Head was the one killed by the mafia then that makes this one obsolete.

i don't think i'd consider DDL an immediate priority for lynching specifically unless he's mafia, the Dark Worshipper does look dangerous and would be good to be rid of sooner or later for sure, but sakana sashimi can basically only kill people who decide to go swimming for some reason, and savage pixie has clear posititve utility.

Why would the Savage Pixie, if civ, use their one time kill on nutella Night 1?

Voting sig.

sig/Kyle/DDL all look like good choices to me.

When the host announces someone has been silenced?

I asked nova that question because nova hasn't been active and we haven't seen a public silencing yet.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Dec 17, 2018 3:08 pm And I don't think it's Kyle.

Any reason you don't think it's Kyle? You've defended him before already:

S~V~S wrote: ↑Fri Dec 14, 2018 6:28 pm I would be most opposed to a lynch of Kyle, and least opposed to a lynch of Luna of these 5.

Is this a gut feel or can you vouch for him?

Correct. SVS had figured it out aswell.

colonialbob wrote: ↑Mon Dec 17, 2018 2:10 pm Are you claiming you and INH are the two secret roles?

No, my role is listed on the role list. I just think some of the roles listed aren't in the game, and some players have the same role. Maybe INH and i are the only ones, or maybe i'm wrong.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Dec 17, 2018 2:11 pm Hey Tranq if you wanted to get lynched Day 3 how did you know Wilgy was a mislynch

I don't. I genuinely suspected Wilgy. Still think Hollow Man is an option though i know it's more likely i'm just wrong.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Dec 17, 2018 2:16 pm I dunno. I'm just stirring the pot. Whatever you guys decide is cool.

I know you are. It literally doesn't matter to you who gets lynched as long as you're unrecruited

I'll just leave this here:

Nope no lies. I don't want to derail the game any further so unless anyone has any other specific questions about me, this is my last post on what happened. I'm a civ. I think INH is aswell. I want to move on to figuring out who the baddies are.

colonialbob wrote: ↑Mon Dec 17, 2018 10:09 am When did you figure out you had to get lynched day 3? Can you say any more about why?

I can answer the first part. Day 0.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 17, 2018 11:57 am @Tranq I guess your role and INH's are connected in some way?

I think so, my guess is he has the exact same role as me.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 17, 2018 7:56 am I'm pretty sure Jack's post was about who attacked DH not nutella.

Uh. You're right.

nova, are you Darth Malignus?

[mention]Jackofhearts2005[/mention] can we revisit your post about the nutella killer?

You say either speedchuck, sig or Sprityo killed nutella. How sure are you that it's one of these three? And how sure are you that they actually killed her rather than target her with another ability? (The same question also applies to [mention]Sloonei[/mention] 's 5)
I just went through nutella's ISO and she made about 10 posts suspecting speedchuck (really, go through her ISO!). If it's between these three I wouldn't be surprised if it's speedchuck based off nutella's posts. I'll have a look through sig's posts later.

I'm guessing Sprityo's role and alignment weren't revealed because he got darknessed?

Lunalee mechanically cleared G-Man so he might be Yin?

Ok so basically i had to try and get myself lynched on Day 3, which i failed. Came close though

I'm pretty sure INH had the exact same goal. Because of this he is also my top town read.
This may come as a huge shock to all of you but there actually is no Mirror of Truth. While i did suspect Wilgy, i needed an extra push of suspicion on me so i made that up and claimed it was real even after SVS figured out i was joking.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Dec 16, 2018 4:22 pm We seem to have an information overload.

You started it

GG INH. I guess we both failed.

Maybe the Eye of Agamotto can undo some of these Quin votes.

If selfvoting means people withdraw their votes from you then i might aswell try it myself.

insertnamehere wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 5:04 pm Sacrifices will be met with a great reward.

Looks like Quin's getting the great reward though you doof.

@SVS: Mirror of Truth

I'm changing my vote back to Jack.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 10:37 am Why are we not overwhelmingly lynching the guy who calimed mafia?

Because he isn't mafia? I'm pretty sure i know who he is

I think these INH and Sabie votes are silly and too easy.

Sabie's responses to Sprityo's infodump read genuine to me (I disagree with you here LoRab). As Lunalee said she responds calm and civ-like to the Woods Witch statement and that's literally all there is against her. Seen with a Jagged Blade does not mean she is a Jagged Blade. A Woods Witch is a high fantasy trope, their statements and prophecies never literally mean what they say. INH also seems to know what's up.

Anyone have any thoughts on my SVS vote? I know it's hard to make a case against her but I feel she's doing the same as she did to me in that Survivor game on RM a while ago.
I'm changing my vote to Quin who already has 1 vote and has done nothing but post nonsense.

insertnamehere wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:21 am Tranq is a civilian. I know this with 100% certainty.

Also I'm not voting anyone who claims i'm 100% civ

colonialbob wrote: ↑Fri Dec 14, 2018 11:58 pm Would appreciate thoughts on Jack's and my votes on Tranq.

I don't like them. What's your reasoning besides DH not liking a Day 0 poll post (i mean wtf) and my Wilgy vote? If i encounter any of you on a square i'll gladly tell you where i found the Mirror of Truth. Or maybe not as i wouldn't be surprised if the Tranq voters are annoyed Wilgy teammates.

Enrique wrote: ↑Fri Dec 14, 2018 4:36 pm
Tranq wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 11:56 pm Don't CFD me. I have info on Wilgy. He's bad!
I can't read this and take it seriously. No idea why you would claim all the mirror stuff but I don't think I buy it.

I'm not lying Enrique

I don't know what else to tell you. The Mirror of Truth lead me to believe Wilgy was bad, and there was thread support for it so i saw no reason to doubt it.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 14, 2018 4:13 pm The silver lining on Tranq is that I've seem more than one people meta read him as civ. I think it was SVS who said he would never slip that easily? Someone else said something in that sense too.

I tend to respect meta reads on people I'm not used to play with.

SVS is wrong though i've been lynched alot of times. In A World Reborn even when she and i were teammates with juliets. I'm actually about to move my vote to SVS. I feel like she's buddying me the way she tends to do when she's bad, i wouldn't be surprised at all if she's on Juliets' team and killed nutella

sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Dec 14, 2018 12:22 pm
Tranq wrote: ↑Fri Dec 14, 2018 11:01 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Dec 14, 2018 10:57 am Tranq, I still have trouble believing you found something called the "Mirror of Truth" that told you "Wilgy may be bad." That's like the most pointless thing ever.
I already said "may be bad" isn't the exact wording.
What is the exact wording then?

I'm not allowed to share but you get the gist of it.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 14, 2018 12:09 pm
Tranq wrote: ↑Fri Dec 14, 2018 12:06 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 14, 2018 12:02 pmMy info isn’t stopped by anything I see on the front page. Not Hollowman. Not Trickster.
What about the 11 roles with *secrets* ?
What about certain squares that may mess with the info?
What about certain items that may mess with the info?
I guess we should just ignore info then, huh?

Where was this skepticism yesterday? You trusted your own info even after Wilgy flipped town.

Sounds to me like you want to discredit my info cause you don’t want me to lynch your buddies.

I had thread evidence on Wilgy aswell. Also today is a slow day at work so I have some spare time to check in.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 14, 2018 12:02 pmMy info isn’t stopped by anything I see on the front page. Not Hollowman. Not Trickster.

What about the 11 roles with *secrets* ?
What about certain squares that may mess with the info?
What about certain items that may mess with the info?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 14, 2018 11:06 am
Tranq wrote: ↑Fri Dec 14, 2018 10:54 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 14, 2018 10:49 am I have a weird meta reason to think Speed isn’t bad. I’ve gotten him lynched or tried to several games in a row. Like 4 games in a row. We shared a square. I’ve expressed suspicion of him. Yet here I stand.

With that in mind, I should vote Sprityo or Sig.

Sprityo May have killed Nutella. With that in mind, I should vote Sprityo.

[VOTE: Sprityo] aubergine
You just said "Tranq is obviously scum" then you vote Sprityo who "may" have killed someone.
Since when is "may" a stronger statement than "obviously"? How does this make sense?

I'm changing my vote to Jack.
Because I trust my info more than my gut.

Your infodump says "1 out of these 3 killed nutella". You used your gut to eliminate speedchuck. Then it's between Sprityo and Sig and you pick the one with the least amount of suspicion to vote for? Why Sprityo over Sig? What if your info is wrong?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Dec 14, 2018 10:57 am Tranq, I still have trouble believing you found something called the "Mirror of Truth" that told you "Wilgy may be bad." That's like the most pointless thing ever.

I already said "may be bad" isn't the exact wording.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 14, 2018 10:49 am I have a weird meta reason to think Speed isn’t bad. I’ve gotten him lynched or tried to several games in a row. Like 4 games in a row. We shared a square. I’ve expressed suspicion of him. Yet here I stand.

With that in mind, I should vote Sprityo or Sig.

Sprityo May have killed Nutella. With that in mind, I should vote Sprityo.

[VOTE: Sprityo] aubergine

You just said "Tranq is obviously scum" then you vote Sprityo who "may" have killed someone.
Since when is "may" a stronger statement than "obviously"? How does this make sense?

I'm changing my vote to Jack.

Darth Malignus can publicly silence someone. We'd know if someone got silenced.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 14, 2018 10:15 am Tranq obviously still scum. Flipping my opinion of Mac somewhat.

How do i flip your opinion of Mac if you think we're opposing scum?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 14, 2018 10:08 am The host post implies two scum tried to kill DH. Like maybe a block and kill or a kill and doc the hitman.

If this is true, I have reason to believe 2 of these players tried to kill DH last night: sprityo, timmer, nova, colonialbob, speedchuck, sig.

nova is playing ???

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