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[mention]Long Con[/mention] [mention]Black Rock[/mention] what was this?Black Rock wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 3:28 am Something has been added to a post, the first player who PM's me with the content will receive a prize.
Ghost Dizzy links tedxtr to Mac:Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2020 6:03 pm TedThis is bad though. Cause you write as if Mac should've been confirmed scum for some reason, but he wasn't. He only was that for Sig and whoever is on his team so...tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 1:30 pm There’s just something illogical that doesn’t sit right with me. If there’s the slightest chance sig is a town, why are you voting for him instead of basically outed wolf Mac no matter sig’s alignment? If it’s so clear to you that he TMI’d Mac, why wouldn’t you ask yourself “is this a wolf tming or a town tming” and vote for him instead of Mac?
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For me, Sig was even more confirmed scum than Mac was (though both of them being scum was like 95 %)
Ted still thinks Mac is not scum, and wants to lynch G-Man instead:Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 5:32 am Hold on. If Mac flips wolf, Ted may have just outed himself as his teammate.
What happened to "it's not Ted"? Why aren't you answering this question?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2020 9:05 pmThat was me and what I realized was completely unrelated to that. I’m voting for Speed right now but I’d kinda bet on Ted / Epi?
I haven't given much thought to the Inception part of this game. If you think it's something that supports your suspicion of someone, i mean sure. But i wouldn't risk the outcome of this game on it.juliets wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2020 5:51 pm @TonyStarkPrime and @Tranq do you have any thoughts on the subject of how the teams were created on Inception Day in this game? Tony I know you were only around a short time in the original game and Tranq didn't play at all so don't feel obligated to give an opinion.
So far, we know there was at least one scum (sig) on the third level and 2 scum (JJJ, Sloonei) at least on the second level, and that leaves 2 scum and 1 indie unaccounted for. One could be speedchuck, meaning we would have had 3 non-town on level 2 (the only ones that leaves on level 2 is me, G-Man and Michelle). That leaves two unaccounted for. If there were no non-towns on level 1 that means both of you are non-town. I obviously don't believe that. Any thoughts or have I made this too complicated? (Epi don't hate me.)
Has your opinion changed or not? Do you want to help me solve this game or not?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 1:12 pmDisagree. Tranq was for a while the only voice of suspicion against Sloonei. I almost would’ve guessed he had some info.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:02 am Tranq on Sloonei
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Tranq said nothing whatsoever about Sloonei until Day 6. He cast some late suspicion when it was obligatory and did nothing with it. He is still plenty compatible.
[mention]TonyStarkPrime[/mention] Can you explain why you don't think it's Ted? What am i missing?Tranq wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2020 12:19 pmCan you explain why you don't think it's Ted?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2020 12:12 pm I don’t think it’s Ted so now I’m 50/50 even with my other town reads on the table.
Jay really wanted to clear speed for the AtE thing but I’m not buying it.
Speed and ... Juliets?
Or you but I think focusing on the second kill is really weird and I like it
I'm reading Dizzy's lie (if we're talking about the same thing) as a way to protect juliets.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2020 12:38 pm I think it’s Juliets. It could be Tranq but I have something else in mind for Tranq. If it’s Juliets then the lie Juliets has on Dizzy probably has to deal with Harbinger. Which on reread follows but isn’t immediately clear. But it would mean Juliets is right, Dizzy wasn’t town. That’s a huge non town in nature lie.
Can you explain why you don't think it's Ted?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2020 12:12 pm I don’t think it’s Ted so now I’m 50/50 even with my other town reads on the table.
Jay really wanted to clear speed for the AtE thing but I’m not buying it.
Speed and ... Juliets?
Or you but I think focusing on the second kill is really weird and I like it
Yes, that's been my assumption aswell.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2020 12:04 pmOkay so 3P secrets kill oneTranq wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2020 12:03 pmGood thought, but unlikely. TH tried to use the bow again on Night 5 but it was blocked, so he still had it on him when he died Day 6.
And now this:speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Mar 15, 2020 1:33 pm I'm a definite on Jay and Ted. Sloonei I'm historically bad at reading, but haven't seen something in memory that keeps him out of the bottom.
What changed from "im a definate on Ted" to "i somewhat scumread Ted" ?speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2020 11:59 am I somewhat scumread Ted, but can't deny that he's got a few compatibility issues with mafia.
Good thought, but unlikely. TH tried to use the bow again on Night 5 but it was blocked, so he still had it on him when he died Day 6.
Ok:speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2020 9:59 am If you'd like to parse Jay's analysis (his only chance of surviving was to get us to lynch the enemy team instead of him, so there may be some reliable info in there) then it might be helpful.
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:22 am speedchuck on Sloonei
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There is one thing I don't like here. Toward the end when speedchuck was campaigning in his cranky way to destroy me, he always tacked Sloonei's name with me. Both of us were bad, but I had to die first. For reasons y'all will soon understand, that's a problem. The connection is meaningless, and it only serves to protect Sloonei in a roundabout way.
Generally I don't think it's speedchuck, but he should still answer to that.
I agree with JJJ.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:29 amIt leaves the potential that speedchuck knows who Sloonei is, and that I am not on Sloonei's team. By gluing us together like that and insisting I die first, he protects Sloonei two-fold. Sloonei doesn't get lynched, and when I flip civilian it makes Sloonei look better too -- the connection is severed.
juliets, is the lie you're talking about in Dizzy's last post here ? If it is what i think it is, it is a very good and smart lie for a dead civ to make.juliets wrote: ↑Fri Mar 20, 2020 7:51 pm
He lied but that's all I can say. You only have my word for it but I wouldn't have brought it up if it weren't to the detriment of the civs. I don't think he's town.
Here he also speculates about who could be 3p. So i don't think he's Akechi either.
No one died on Night 4. Long Con's post is wrong.juliets wrote: ↑Fri Mar 20, 2020 7:50 amTranq, did we not have another "no kill" night besides N1? I could have sworn we did but maybe I'm just remembering wrong.Tranq wrote: ↑Fri Mar 20, 2020 5:47 amSVS and nutella were killed on Night 3. Long Con's post is wrong.Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:24 pmColoured it all, i think my brain works better like this.Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:18 am Dead
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - Salvadore - Killed self Day 1 to determine lynch target
nutella - Prometheus - Lynched Day 1
No one died on Night 1 - Mac was targeted by Anti Monitor team (Sig's slip)
Master Radishes - Dennis Reynolds - Lynched Day 2
Dyslexicon - Killed Night 2 - by Saitama. most probably Dizzy was a villager
sabie12 - Uncle Fester - Killed Night 2 - Turnip Head targeted Michelle and the action was switched to Sabie12 (THs claim)
MacDougall - Saitama - Lynched Day 3
No NK night 3 - Role block or the AM team had to choose between the kill and the Inception plan?
I think Turnip's Iso in the next day needs to be checked and G-man's. Who else could RB?
sprityo - Lassie - Lynched Day 4
S~V~S - The Oracle - Killed Night 4 A fear kill from wolves would kill Svs or Nut here? And if one was the victim of the red team, the second kill was a towny action?
nutella 2.0 - Santa - Killed Night 4
sig - The Architect - Lynched Day 5
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME 2.0 - Harriet - killed Night 5 - The AM killed Nanook here. We have to check Nanook 02 Iso
ColinIsCool - Awards Presenter - Lynched Day 6
Turnip Head - Jack of All Trades - Lynched Day 6
Dom - Seamus Fitzroy - Killed Night 6 Why Dom again?
G-Man - Aja - Lynched Day 7
Jackofhearts2005 - Agatha Heterodyne - Killed Night 7 Jack was so convinced JJJ is bad that his NK points out for sure at him. That means Jay is never the AM i think.
Sloonei - The Master - Killed Night 7 GOAT shot!
Please correct me if i made mistakes
The double death on Night 3 can be explained by Jack of all Trades using their one-shot kill. I don't think Turnip Head suspected SVS or nutella, so maybe sig switched one of them with Turnip Head's target.
SVS and nutella were killed on Night 3. Long Con's post is wrong.Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:24 pmColoured it all, i think my brain works better like this.Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:18 am Dead
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - Salvadore - Killed self Day 1 to determine lynch target
nutella - Prometheus - Lynched Day 1
No one died on Night 1 - Mac was targeted by Anti Monitor team (Sig's slip)
Master Radishes - Dennis Reynolds - Lynched Day 2
Dyslexicon - Killed Night 2 - by Saitama. most probably Dizzy was a villager
sabie12 - Uncle Fester - Killed Night 2 - Turnip Head targeted Michelle and the action was switched to Sabie12 (THs claim)
MacDougall - Saitama - Lynched Day 3
No NK night 3 - Role block or the AM team had to choose between the kill and the Inception plan?
I think Turnip's Iso in the next day needs to be checked and G-man's. Who else could RB?
sprityo - Lassie - Lynched Day 4
S~V~S - The Oracle - Killed Night 4 A fear kill from wolves would kill Svs or Nut here? And if one was the victim of the red team, the second kill was a towny action?
nutella 2.0 - Santa - Killed Night 4
sig - The Architect - Lynched Day 5
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME 2.0 - Harriet - killed Night 5 - The AM killed Nanook here. We have to check Nanook 02 Iso
ColinIsCool - Awards Presenter - Lynched Day 6
Turnip Head - Jack of All Trades - Lynched Day 6
Dom - Seamus Fitzroy - Killed Night 6 Why Dom again?
G-Man - Aja - Lynched Day 7
Jackofhearts2005 - Agatha Heterodyne - Killed Night 7 Jack was so convinced JJJ is bad that his NK points out for sure at him. That means Jay is never the AM i think.
Sloonei - The Master - Killed Night 7 GOAT shot!
Please correct me if i made mistakes
Jack of all Trades is dead. You're missing Abed.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 11:55 pm Okay 7 left 2 scum except with a 3p we don't have the courtesy of sitting out what would be the MYLO Lynch.
What's left,
dedede
vanilla
jack
orderer
monitor
Not bad. No use trying to plan actions given that layout.
Ted, i've played a lot of games with juliets. I can't claim to always read her correctly, but in this game she definately sounds civ. As SVS said, bad juliets gets nervous. I'm not seeing that here.tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 6:01 am There's just no world where Sloonei isn't with someone that doesn't have some sort of high presence or having accumulated a lot of town reads. I just can't think about that. It's because of his lists containing lurkers as scum which is always what he's done. There has to be someone active as a mafia and I think that's just juliets. I don't know, maybe I was right for the wrong reasons earlier, but there's just no world for me where juliets isn't mafia. I don't know why or how she is being town read, someone needs to engage me, because I just think you're wrong.
I heard Jay's thoughts on her, I'm moreso looking for thoughts from people like Tranq, TSP, Michelle. Why you scum read her / town read her?
Read Jack's last couple of pages, Tony. It's very likely Jack tracked Jay and caught him killing someone.
I have civ reads on everyone else.
Elimination. I wasn't able to write Not-Master next to their name.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2020 3:35 amWhaddya got on Sloonei?Tranq wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2020 3:34 amTHJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2020 2:09 am There has been little coordination in here despite some folks saying there needs to be coordination in here. Let's coordinate the two lynches gang.
If you haven't given me a top three suspects yet, do it.
Colin
Sloonei
THJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2020 2:09 am There has been little coordination in here despite some folks saying there needs to be coordination in here. Let's coordinate the two lynches gang.
If you haven't given me a top three suspects yet, do it.
It's alphabetical. Civvies based on gut, others based on their votes.Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:48 pm I felt like the last lazy of laziest when I noticed the hundred of posts of almost everyone when I barely have 111 or so, and I feel better now because Tranq has less posts than me. This is not quite a problem, but I wish to know:
1. from where come these reads and
2. how did he form reads.
@Tranq please answer at the above
Question no.3 is why are you in the bottom of your civvies?
I'm ok with using my secret vote on TH.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:50 pm @JaggedJimmyJay @Epignosis @Michelle @Sloonei @speedchuck @Tranq @Dom @TonyStarkPrime @juliets @ColinIsCool
Does anyone townread TH? He seems to be the most consensus suspect and I would rather agree to focus elsewhere and lynch him via secret ballot if there's no way he's escaping lynch anyway.
So speak now so we can organize this.
My flight to NY next week got cancelled. Not a very pleasant moment in time indeed.
I agree.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 11, 2020 10:49 pmA normal day with two lynches and the most consensus suspect being voted for by all townies. Possibly that suspect is TH.Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Mar 11, 2020 10:47 pmWhat are you proposing Jack?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 11, 2020 10:46 pmAntimonitor has -2 votes against him by default. Antimonitor killed last night, giving him +3 votes due to Nanook2's death. This is a net +1 vote.Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 11, 2020 10:35 pmhuh?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 11, 2020 10:30 pm Oh wait yeah the AM killed last night. He’s only at +1 vote, possibly tied with someone else due to award presenter and very likely behind Agatha.
I say we have two public votes and all privately vote for the most consensus target to override mafia secret vote.
Award presenter can give +1 or -1 votes against a player.
Agatha gains votes for using actions and can remove them by taking no action.
So the Antimonitor has 1 vote to start, Agatha probably has at least 1 vote to start and another player may have 1 vote to start as well.
So basically, the bodyguard could have given us a free lynch but it didn't. Might help the case of a tie though.
This is an excellent question.Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 6:53 pmQuestion:JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 5:46 pmIf this happens I recommend nutella.Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2020 10:49 pm
The Monitor - You cannot be nightkilled by regular means. By the end of Day 1, you will choose two players to be Harbinger and Pariah. They will know who you are.
If Harbinger is alive, and has not been found by the Anti-Monitor at the start of Day 6, she will choose one player to resurrect.
If they rez SVS and she then dies again later-- do we get another role?