The Syndicate

Gira wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 11:39 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 11:37 pm Gira the entire spec chat was on your side, you did great. Don't feel bad at all, you had an amazing solve.
every time i lose a game by voting wrong i get the same condolences

i am very, very over it

lol, well, I'll say ty then.

Apparently, if you grind/juice a pineapple, you can tenderize meat with it really effectively due to the enzymes.

Eh [VOTE: Splints] aubergine

I don't want to vote for Gira or Nook still.

Alexa is on Splints which makes me uncomfortable.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:38 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:34 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:31 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:30 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:27 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:00 pm >Wilgy voting me after i capped is scummy AF, especially when he was talking about the scumread before that and didn’t vote me then. Also i just. Don’t think his posts are good. (still important)
Alright, bullshit again, how is that scummy when we had the entirety of pre 150 to discuss? you state yourself that I spoke about the scumread prior so it's not a magical thing that came out of 'oh alexa is at 150 that'll be a good place to vote.'

Also, what makes that wolfy? do you think my malicious plan was to vote you at 150 and push for you in hoping that you just wouldn't show up in the last hour?
why would you not vote me earlier then suddenly vote me after i'm capped and a legit wagon option?
Tbf I think "a legit wagon option" usually answers that question regardless of his alignment
ig but w/e it feels cowardly
Eh, I think in a game where cap doesn't lift that may be more true. Idk I don't really want to argue against scumreads on wilgy lol

I'm still baffled by your read my dude.

Meh, LC is either scum or needs to take a second look at Alexa.

I don't think Alexa goes over if I'm alive so w/e. Lets get that D2 bread gamers.

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:30 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:27 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:00 pm >Wilgy voting me after i capped is scummy AF, especially when he was talking about the scumread before that and didn’t vote me then. Also i just. Don’t think his posts are good. (still important)
Alright, bullshit again, how is that scummy when we had the entirety of pre 150 to discuss? you state yourself that I spoke about the scumread prior so it's not a magical thing that came out of 'oh alexa is at 150 that'll be a good place to vote.'

Also, what makes that wolfy? do you think my malicious plan was to vote you at 150 and push for you in hoping that you just wouldn't show up in the last hour?
why would you not vote me earlier then suddenly vote me after i'm capped and a legit wagon option?

I just didn't, not like it's damning until EoD anyhow. My vote was on Mac from when he was a 0 poster and I said 'lets yeet Mac for shits and gigles'

Did you think I was going to stay there?

ilario wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:28 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 10:05 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:43 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:38 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 8:20 pm I think we should abandon all other premise and just murder ilario.
I disagree. I think Ilario is one of my greenest reads.
Really?? Why?
Because your entry & agreement with Alison gave me towny vibes and you haven't done anything that I wouldn't read from a town voice? Plus my early scum read voted you so...
My early sr do u mean gira? Has ur read changed on him?

Dizzy mostly, when Gira entered thread I thought they were wolf, but I skimmed their ISO I changed my mind.

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:00 pm >Wilgy voting me after i capped is scummy AF, especially when he was talking about the scumread before that and didn’t vote me then. Also i just. Don’t think his posts are good. (still important)

Alright, bullshit again, how is that scummy when we had the entirety of pre 150 to discuss? you state yourself that I spoke about the scumread prior so it's not a magical thing that came out of 'oh alexa is at 150 that'll be a good place to vote.'

Also, what makes that wolfy? do you think my malicious plan was to vote you at 150 and push for you in hoping that you just wouldn't show up in the last hour?

ilario wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 9:50 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:25 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:49 pm nanook is outed mafia he's pushing towny wilgy who is an easy person to kill because he realizes that he flew too close to the sun with doing literally nothing this day that is useful as a wolf and now needs an out which is Wilgy easy push
Eh... Idk I don't think wolf nook pushes for me when they could've just as easily pushed Mac or FS.

I still think wolf nook resolves later.
@DrWilgy why do you think wolf book would avoid pushing u over mac or fs

When I flip, I could see alot more pressure coming out of it than the other two. I don't think W nook fights this fight just to get flipped d3.

If he latched onto Mac earlier or FS and they do go over, I think there'd be alot more shrugging and moving on.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 9:46 pm The more esooa and wilgy insult me the more I'm parked

Didn't mean to insult you Nook, I just don't know how to express "you are likely just wrong."

Like, I still think you don't do this as W. If you are W, gratz on the mischop lol.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 9:41 pm You even considering me to be mafia in general is a scum claim.

Same tbh.

Yeah, just caught up and I literally have no idea why any of my 5 votes voted me.

Nook: "he's wolf lol"
Mac: "he's wolf and I'm right till I'm wrong"
Alexa: "I'm scum and this is easy."
LC: "My phone auto corrected Wilgy to wolf."
Dizzy: "no fucking clue who scum is."

I'm fascinated that the potential LC, Alexa, Mac team is all on me.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 7:14 pm to really frustrate you I'm gonna leave now without reading your rebuttal and let jesus take the wheel... you don't get to emotionally abuse me neener neener

Channeling that Gaviel energy huh?

And like, the shitty part is, bad posts don't make nook bad, I still think he's just reading and playing poorly.

Like, this doesn't feel like an intentional wolf strike.

Nooks last post was so bad I'm puking.

Either that or I ate too many wings.

I just want to watch the last episode of Witcher.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 9:01 pm Let's kill wilgy d1 is a meme tbf but like

He also rolls mafia sometimes

Still think it's [VOTE: Alexa] aubergine

Oh neat. My wagon has Alexa, Nook, Mac, Dizzy and a confused LC.

Seems dirty.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 7:17 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:19 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:16 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:11 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:59 pm Dissuasion lol
Yeah no, I'm moving you back to null. I don't know how to read you.

Early dissuasive voice in of itself I read as Wolfy, but your following posts on Mac when you committed to the vote I was able to read in a town voice.
Ok. Do you think Mac is town here? I struggle to get any scum reads tbh
Still have him as a slight town lean.

I have a scum read on Alexa rn, I still think the earlier wolf read was BS. Especially when Falcon is just slightly out of town range? Like that didn't make sense.
don't think you had me as a town lean... also you are voting me

I do. I liked your entry.

My vote was from a simpler time.

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:45 pm new pfp just dropped

OwO

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:34 pm
fingersplints wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:33 pm [VOTE: alexa] aubergine

MFW it's just LC *AND* Alexa + Mac.

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:49 pm nanook is outed mafia he's pushing towny wilgy who is an easy person to kill because he realizes that he flew too close to the sun with doing literally nothing this day that is useful as a wolf and now needs an out which is Wilgy easy push

Eh... Idk I don't think wolf nook pushes for me when they could've just as easily pushed Mac or FS.

I still think wolf nook resolves later.

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:36 pm what do you mean irt falcon? idk anything about falcon's ranges, only that TSP said falcon is more inclined to push people as town

Ok, and what are my ranges then?

Falcon has several unexplained call outs and votes, but is town leaned by you? unless you specifically had an issue with my dizzy read, I don't understand it.

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:36 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:19 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:16 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:11 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:59 pm Dissuasion lol
Yeah no, I'm moving you back to null. I don't know how to read you.

Early dissuasive voice in of itself I read as Wolfy, but your following posts on Mac when you committed to the vote I was able to read in a town voice.
Ok. Do you think Mac is town here? I struggle to get any scum reads tbh
Still have him as a slight town lean.

I have a scum read on Alexa rn, I still think the earlier wolf read was BS. Especially when Falcon is just slightly out of town range? Like that didn't make sense.
so it's literally just OMGUS?

I'd say it's more so noticing inconsistencies.

Gira pointed one out as well that makes sense. It's almost as if you are pick and choosing your reads.

I just re-read Gira and they are town too.

Ezgame.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:32 pm Wilgy is literally doing the thing with alexa that I memed about lol

What?

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:24 pm Town:
Alexa
Illario
Esooa
Alison
Dizzy

Most confident to least.

How are you so confident on Alexa?

Mine is
Town:
LC
SPF
Ilario
Alison
Esooa

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:19 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:16 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:11 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:59 pm Dissuasion lol
Yeah no, I'm moving you back to null. I don't know how to read you.

Early dissuasive voice in of itself I read as Wolfy, but your following posts on Mac when you committed to the vote I was able to read in a town voice.
Ok. Do you think Mac is town here? I struggle to get any scum reads tbh
Still have him as a slight town lean.

I have a scum read on Alexa rn, I still think the earlier wolf read was BS. Especially when Falcon is just slightly out of town range? Like that didn't make sense.

And as I say that, he's definitely at the bottom of town leans.

If you are town, then I'd probably move him to null >= wolf lean.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:16 pm Anyways wilgy is probably mafia here

Dizzy Gira alexa probably lime are town.

No, maybe, no, no, yes,

Please sir, may I have some more?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:16 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:11 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:59 pm Dissuasion lol
Yeah no, I'm moving you back to null. I don't know how to read you.

Early dissuasive voice in of itself I read as Wolfy, but your following posts on Mac when you committed to the vote I was able to read in a town voice.
Ok. Do you think Mac is town here? I struggle to get any scum reads tbh

Still have him as a slight town lean.

I have a scum read on Alexa rn, I still think the earlier wolf read was BS. Especially when Falcon is just slightly out of town range? Like that didn't make sense.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:59 pm Dissuasion lol

Yeah no, I'm moving you back to null. I don't know how to read you.

Early dissuasive voice in of itself I read as Wolfy, but your following posts on Mac when you committed to the vote I was able to read in a town voice.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:57 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:44 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:22 am @Lime Coke let me know if your feelings on SPF are still the same or not whenever you're around
There were a bit of times that I was kind of wavering in my tunnel on her, specifically the "you shouldn't have to be townreading me to try to work with me since that puts you into a conf-bias" post. Plus Alison mentioning that SPF responding with anger being town indicative for her is a decent point as well. At this rate I don't think she's mafia as much as I was last night.

I can't tell if it's me bitching out on scumreading her, or I was just wrong originally.
Also running out of confident enough options to vote out on Day 1.
By the way the other thing that kinda kills me is that the reason I got super excited last night was because it was the fact that reading someone's mafia game and using what I learned actually fucking worked for once for me and I actually had a mafia member immediately.
Now it's kind of pointing out that it was kind of useless and I'm salty over it.

I disagree with it being useless. I feel like both you and SPF are solid out of POE for now because of it.

You believed in your read making you town and I believe SPF's reaction to be towny.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:51 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:49 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 12:50 am Alexa lime coke both town

Gira >rand town
Bad takes without explaining.
No they're good takes

Perhaps tell me why?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 7:33 am I’d guess on Gira as town. Would like a more comprehensive view from them.

If Gira is town, Alison’s votes are bad. So that’s a thing. I think she was supposed to be voting me rn.

Talk to me about this. I've thought Alison to be on point for the most part.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:39 am
ilario wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:33 am Fwiw dizzy in regards to ur w/w tinfoil: because I think that’s a very reasonable thought to have since I don’t think W!alexa would ever say that to T!mac, so yeah imo if alexa is a wolf then I would almost always consider mac a wolf too after her flip so I like that you considered that and had that thought. That being said I think alexa is most likely just town and that comment came out during a moment of frustration
This could be. But I still think Mac is definitely in his scum range, and I haven't seen any town pointers from him yet.

Kind of surprised you have a confident read on me, but maybe that's just the stage of our relationship now lol

And then you go and post this. Idk. Maybe I'm just bad at reading you.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:27 am Almost done catching up, but on my way out.

Most important thing I want to say: Mac is not a bad wolf per se. Comparing his game to his fart game is dumb. He's not town just because he's not farting all over the place. In fact, I find his posts really lacking, especially the first string of posts. Feel like they are just words that could be any other words, and it wouldn't make a difference. I don't get where he get any of his takes from, doesn't seem to care about them himself either. And he can be much, much better as town than saying stuff that just sounds random.

Also noting that Alexa said "Mac sucks as wolf", which seems quite harsh actually. Wondering if this is w/w. She also follows up with Mac being able to laugh at her if she's wrong. Kind of a red flag for me. I might come back to this, but this is a connection that I want people to remember if one flips wolf. This connection is strengthened by Mac replying "lol" to Lime telling someone to get their vote off of Alexa. Mac also laughed at others town reading their scum mates in his previous game.

Don't have time, might get back to this.

Lime town obv. Haven't decided on SPF yet tbh. But I'm intrigued lol

Think this is a good one for me to try to explain my Dizzy read. Why are we putting so much effort into the dissuasion of "Mac is Town" vs telling us "This is why Mac is Wolf" ?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 2:09 am
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 2:02 am I skipped all the long posts with huge quotes on this page.

Wilgy esooa falcon splints illario LC spf all town just kill everyone else for a free win. See you guys in a day or two.
pretty much my entire poe is in here so that's a problem.

Just vote me dad.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 12:50 am Alexa lime coke both town

Gira >rand town

Bad takes without explaining.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 12:39 am I reckon this game is fun

Meh, too much wall text that I have to read twice for my small peanut brain to absorb.

alexa wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 11:41 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 11:35 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 11:20 pm [VOTE: wilgy] aubergine
why him?
zomg everyone's so towny

also his posts suck yet he has a lot of people townreading him for minor bad reasons which is >>>>rand wolf, and he hasn't answered my questioned about his dizzy read despite me pinging him multiple times

I saw one, and that was only because I re read. When in catch-up I'll often miss what was said while back reading until I get there.

At this point I'll take back my SPF wolf lean. The interactions between SPF and LC were good.

What did stick out was your slight town lean on Falcon. Talk to me about that one Alexa.

alexa wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:45 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:35 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:32 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 7:53 pm
Gira wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 7:45 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 7:40 pm
Gira wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 7:36 pm

you know i was thinking on the game and this post stuck in my mind

and this is interesting word choice because you're expressing concern over "misclearing" wilgy

but like

didn't you push back when i expressed similar sentiment about people's early reads on Alison

(and also lol at expressing a concern over a misclear while defending lime coke doing what he does - not really alignment relevant, but, like, the irony)
i thought alison was being villagery, though. so to me your thing of "that is so obviously in her scum range" implied that something villagery was in her scum range so that's not a reason to townread her (which, you clarified anyways, so cool). whatever the fuck people were townreading wilgy for read as random crap that shouldn't be considered villagery in any world so "he wouldn't do that as scum" or w/e read very differently
you thought she was being villagery off 3 posts

but are worried about early townreads on wilgy (and i don't think what he's done so far is "random crap" even if it's presented in a jokey fashion - he has reads and is expressing them)

[VOTE: alexa] aubergine
wilgy hasn't explained a single read and has literally just been posting nonsense, what the heck is villagery? alison's content has been good and i've agreed with most of it
Oh no! Out of my few posts which ones do you think are purposeful reads?
why is dizzy scum?
@DrWilgy you still haven't answered this

and it's AI because one of the reasons i've found you as town in the past is the way you've explained reads

Dizzy's entry was Wolfy, plus the scattered shitposting after. I found that it was hard to tell what was RVS and what was actual reading. I felt that there was way too much dissuasive voice being used. If zomg everyone is so towny, what would a wolf do other than try to break the core?

ilario wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 10:16 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 10:05 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:43 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:38 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 8:20 pm I think we should abandon all other premise and just murder ilario.
I disagree. I think Ilario is one of my greenest reads.
Really?? Why?
Because your entry & agreement with Alison gave me towny vibes and you haven't done anything that I wouldn't read from a town voice? Plus my early scum read voted you so...
kk that makes sense

who else is in ur town pile atm?

Would say that the greener people are you, LC, and Alison. Slight town lean on Esooa, slight town lean on Mac.

Wolf leans are Alexa, Dizzy, SPF.

Wa happen?

ilario wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:43 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:38 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 8:20 pm I think we should abandon all other premise and just murder ilario.
I disagree. I think Ilario is one of my greenest reads.
Really?? Why?

Because your entry & agreement with Alison gave me towny vibes and you haven't done anything that I wouldn't read from a town voice? Plus my early scum read voted you so...

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:21 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:20 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 7:44 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 7:33 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 7:30 pm [VOTE: esooa] aubergine
why this
i feel like you are trying to project towniness harder than the recent towngames ive seen from you, and the post that u made about me when i first started posting felt a little pockety so im voting u and seeing what happens
Bad take.
why is it bad

Projecting implies the forcing of an image. I don't see anything representing that.

You seem to be at baseline hunting and you are clear in your responses to most things. That isn't projecting.

alexa wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:24 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:19 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:16 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:07 pm Soooooo

Town:
Alexa
Esooa
Mac
Illario

Mafia:
SPF

[VOTE: StayPositiveFriend] aubergine
this is so shocking LC is literally never mafia
What do you have for reads so far?
Town:
Lime Coke
Dyslexicon
illario
MacDougall
Esooa
Alison

(probably has a wolf but idrc rn)

IDK:
falcon (have had some town pings, but reluctant to move up)
Gira
SPF
Finger
NOOK

Wolf:
DrWilgy

Excuse you? You claim that I make reads without providing reason, how is that anything but NAI at this point in the game?

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:08 pm SPF is afraid to give people townreads this game while discrediting a SHIT ton of townreads and wants to give reasons to wolfread people.

Good. LC is just town again.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 8:20 pm I think we should abandon all other premise and just murder ilario.

I disagree. I think Ilario is one of my greenest reads.

ilario wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 8:16 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 8:14 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 8:09 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 6:45 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 6:42 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 6:41 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 5:07 pm

I know right I looked at the poll to vote Dizzy and saw they were silently voting me to which I REALLY voted Dizzy hard
Is there a difference between hard votes & soft votes?
the emotion I feel when clicking the button
Towny response IMO
Mannn I’m really not seeing the falcon trs, like this response feels pmuch nai from esooa (I think she had other posts that I would mention before this one when I’m thinking of towny replies from her this game). And dizzys earlier post that falcon called wolfy also felt like a very nai post to comment on. Does anyone who tr him feel relatively confident in the read? I thought his involvement and him actively posting might be towny for him but I don’t really vibe with the actual content of his posts
Mostly reading Falcon on tone. For example the post quoted below. I did think his response there was weird but I don't have problems with it. Also I want to town lock him for seriously voting a 0 poster cause I think that's funny, and I do think voting a 0 poster is towny

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 1:58 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 1:56 pm Anyway
Nanook and Lime are town.
Alison and Alexa both look promising.

zomg everyone's so towny
WTF has Nook done to earn that?

Oh I didn’t realize he voted mac. That might be towny yeah. I’ve noticed the times I saw Mac as scum he took longer to get into the thread

I'll soft defend Mac for 0 posting early. He's been busier than previous.

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