The Syndicate

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 5:53 pm For a game with as many dead mafiers as this one has, we are not talking nearly enough about "spew".

Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 5:48 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 5:47 pm Notable wagons that are notable in distribution are:
D1:
MacDougall ( 3 ): RondoDimBuckle, Porscha, Dennis
Dennis ( 3 ): Guillotine, Neon, falcon45ca

D3:
Lilypetal - (7) - Golden, Michelle, MacDougall, Neon, Dyslexicon, falcon45ca, Sloonei

Do we think any of these 3 are pure?

I think lily is most likely to not be pure

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 8:16 pm Cape90 ( 16 ): Seanzie, S~V~S, sig, Golden, Inawordyes, Party Crasher, MacDougall, Le petit poussin, Kate, nutella, Marmot, Urist, Alison, EnderWiggin, Dyslexicon, Michelle
Inawordyes ( 8 ): "Scotty, DrWilgy, 112, Sloonei, Master Radishes, Lilypetal, Sabiplz, Cape90
Dennis ( 3 ): Guillotine, Neon, falcon45ca
MacDougall ( 3 ): RondoDimBuckle, Porscha, Dennis
Creature ( 2 ): pyxxy, Creature
Guillotine ( 1 ): TonyStarkPrime
Party Crasher ( 1 ): hollowkatt
pyxxy ( 1 ): ilario
not voting ( shrug emoji ): idk lol I think nobody

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 8:16 pm Seanzie ( 10 ): Marmot, falcon45ca, nutella, Neon, Party Crasher, Alison, Dyslexicon, Lilypetal, Porscha, Kate
RondoDimBuckle ( 6 ): Urist, Sloonei, Creature, EnderWiggin, 112, Seanzie
Marmot ( 4 ): MacDougall, Master Radishes, RondoDimBuckle, Scotty
S~V~S ( 2 ): sig, Golden
Scotty ( 2 ): hollowkatt, Michelle
Golden ( 1 ): Guillotine
MacDougall ( 1 ): S~V~S
sig ( 1 ): DrWilgy
not voting ( idk hopefully none of you lol ): shrug emoji

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 8:14 pm Final Votes Day 3 - Feb 24 - 7:00 pm est

112 - (1) - Party Crasher
Guillotine (1) RondoDimBuckle
Kate - (1) - 112
Lilypetal - (7) - Golden, Michelle, MacDougall, Neon, Dyslexicon, falcon45ca, Sloonei
MacDougall - (3) - Scotty, Marmot, EnderWiggin
Marmot - (2) - Kate, S~V~S
RondoDimBuckle - (1) hollowkatt
Scotty - (2) - DrWilgy, Urist
Sloonei - (1) Lilypetal
No vote/unvote - (1) - sig

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 8:07 pm Scotty ( 6 ): EnderWiggin, Golden, Dyslexicon, S~V~S, RondoDimBuckle, falcon45ca
S~V~S ( 6 ): Scotty, sig, Neon, Party Crasher, Sloonei, Guillotine
Golden ( 1 ): DrWilgy
not voting ( 1 ): porscha

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 2:28 am @DrWilgy
@EnderWiggin
@falcon45ca
@Guillotine
@Porscha
@sig

It's time for us to combine just like Power Rangers into VOLTRON. It is dire times. There's 7 of us town left.

Rondo and Dizzy are obvious mafia for reasons I said earlier. Sloonei is obvious mafia for defending Rondo and not playing the game in any other way. Svs is 3p but I tried to bribe her. Golden is just a 3p who's blatantly scumsiding.

I don't know who joined in this event and who didn't, but that will probably have a huge impact on the game.

Regardless of whatever happens, WE NEED TO VOTE TOGETHER.

ALL 7 OF US NEED TO VOTE IN UNISON.

Please take responsibility of your vote and treat this as LyLo. We can't afford to split our votes or be the single votes on wagons.

This already happened to us yesterday with Scotty - 4 of the people on the CFD were non-town. Falcon and Ender were the only town.

If we don't vote all together in unison they'll just overtake us lol

I suggest that we vote off Rondo first. I firmly believe that he gave up earlier, until I made fun of him and he didn't want to accept it so he regained a little WIM. I am hoping that SVS shoots Dizzy to get her win. Then we take it from there. I believe Sloonei is the last mafia and should die after that too

We can't afford to waste time chopping svs (in fact, she is our friend. we should befriend her. we love you svs) and we can't waste time with Golden

THIS IS YOU ESPECIALLY @DrWilgy. i understand why you wanna kill Golden, i do, king. BUT WE NEED YOUR VOTE, AND GOLDEN IS 3P

-t

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 7:06 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:37 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:27 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 4:30 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 2:39 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 2:09 pm Also it's interesting that this is the first real interaction of note I've had with you Porschuwaga.

Besides for meaningless @s at least. Why is this?

Because I wasnt around day 1 when you were and other than that you've hardly posted? Not that I've been the most active player either tbf but that's why I called on you to show up..

Ah, but you see, at least others have found me quite in contention. Plenty have said I'm towny, while plenty have argued I get too much credit from the MR kill. Stating that I'm just spanking and am not around seems to be at least contrary to this as others have shown evidence above of both engaging me and drawing conclusions.

Ah, but you see, at least others have found me quite in contention. Plenty have said I'm towny, while plenty have argued I get too much credit from Mac's read on me. Stating that I'm just slanking and am not around seems to be at least contrary to this as others have shown evidence above of both engaging me and drawing conclusions.

Wilgy if you want me to give a read on you, you can just ask

Why did you change my typo of spanking back to slanking. That just kills it's charm.

LOL i only changed it for mine cuz i haaaate when my phone autocorrects it to spanking

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:37 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:35 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:21 pm Also Porsche/Wilgy seems t/t to me

I am starting to agree with this.

You are both obvtown, now kiss

sig wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:31 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:25 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:23 pm Can we afford me voting Guillo?

I’d not recommend it there’s too many unknowns still around KPs out there and if ender gives another suicide vest + we have standard kills it could put us in a bad spot

More info on this 16 living players

Likely 2 Third parties (we’ll know for sure post SVS flip)

14 players that count to the game 1-3 mafia let’s say worst case scenario 3 that means a team of 8.

11-3


Vote is 3P doesn’t matter so this night phase 2 kills for sure if they both hit town (one is factional mafia so we can assume it’ll hit town)

9-3

Tomorrow if we assume another suicide vest + a gun which I believe is a good bet to make worst case all 3 hit civ

6-3

Misvote

5-3

Boom game over.


Is this likely to happen? No

Am I taking a lot of liberties to paint the most pessimistic picture? Yes

But, I’m doing this to say we shouldn’t be axing people like Wilgy or dizzy through gullio right now it’s not a smart civ play

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:27 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 4:30 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 2:39 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 2:09 pm Also it's interesting that this is the first real interaction of note I've had with you Porschuwaga.

Besides for meaningless @s at least. Why is this?

Because I wasnt around day 1 when you were and other than that you've hardly posted? Not that I've been the most active player either tbf but that's why I called on you to show up..

Ah, but you see, at least others have found me quite in contention. Plenty have said I'm towny, while plenty have argued I get too much credit from the MR kill. Stating that I'm just spanking and am not around seems to be at least contrary to this as others have shown evidence above of both engaging me and drawing conclusions.

Ah, but you see, at least others have found me quite in contention. Plenty have said I'm towny, while plenty have argued I get too much credit from Mac's read on me. Stating that I'm just slanking and am not around seems to be at least contrary to this as others have shown evidence above of both engaging me and drawing conclusions.

Wilgy if you want me to give a read on you, you can just ask

sig wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:21 pm Also Porsche/Wilgy seems t/t to me

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:20 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 4:27 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 2:37 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 2:07 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 1:55 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 10:22 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 9:24 am This post here from wolf JJJ has the near exact same feel to me:


PoE created of Sloonei/Wilgy in spite of previous data and inclination compares to the PoE of Nook and I JJJ used. JJJ using Falcon's thinking to push this agenda screams in reminder when you use the context of Golden using Rondo's like/like check (which at the very least isn't still hard confirmed, and not the boldest claim imo).

And yes, I know you can't damn player behavior on the back of another player's previous actions, but wolf behavior I think finds a way to have lines of convergence where these patterns pop up and are correct.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 9:25 am (JJJ won Kid's Birthday Party Mafia with the above pivot for context)

Yep. Sad day, IIRC I was sus of JJJ's lukewarm playstyle, but didn't follow up enough due to pivoting. Golden's post does remind me of that tactic

I guess iata here if everyone but me agrees? Idk man
You can convince me it's an... attempt... at a pivot post. I think it would be weak if it legitimatally was
I dont think you could convince me its wilgy oriented specifically
And golden has done nothing with the so-called pivot and clearly seemed to be trying to think out loud when thread was dead
I would like to pump the brakes a little on this line of reasoning until I'm provided with far more reason to agree with the dissenters

I don't have to convince anything. I made an observation that indicates anti town behavior.

It's up to you to find it correct or not and react to it by means that suits your alignment.

I find it strange that rather than disagreement with said observation, you attempt to actually take away power from the observation by saying that it needs convincing.

This is semantics. I dont know if it is correct and I'm not convinced by your argument. If I said everyone but me agrees then that means I do not agree

You slank half the game away and this is what you hit me with? I'm having specific thoughts you may be 3p if you arent town

Yes, and now you are further discrediting an argument by stating it's just semantics.

Again, the part that was odd wasn't that you disagreed, but more so how you presented it. "I disagree" is very different from "you need to convince me" as one places the actionable query in a neutral state that can grow and the other places the responsibility strictly on a person who's already said their peace.

Also "hit you with"? I don't believe I've hit you with anything, and it honestly seems that you've placed a strange amount of focus and energy on both my responses to golden and my response to you further.

I'm not fond of this discourse. You provided an idea to the thread. I said I dont find the idea convincing and therefore I disagree with your idea. I welcomed you to provide more if you so wished so that maybe I could see what you could see, but that I wasnt seeing it as is. You dont need to do more, and I never demanded you do. You dont *need* to convince me - I just wont agree with you unless you do convince me. Because that's how arguments work.

I did not discredit your argument. I said I dont agree with your argument. The argument is you see parallels. I dont see them. There is *zero* discrediting being done. You accused me of not saying something I did say, and I proved it. Calling it semantics was nice of me tbh- it was just incorrect of you to accuse me of "not disagreeing" when that's exactly what I did. And the colored text plainly shows that. But isnt particularly important, so I dont mind calling it semantics and leaving it at that.

Golden is a topic of conversation and I have not placed any special attention to it, and since your responses towards me have been accusational, I respond to them. This is normal. Your responses have been weirding me out, in fact. Not because of nonsense like "placing too much focus or energy" on them, but because they feel manufactured.

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:09 pm Wilgy what bothered me most is you’re desire to coast on ‘that shot should clear me’ when I didn’t think it should but I get it more now.

Assuming svs is honest and 3p not wolf, gut says the last wolves are in the Falcon, ender, dizzy trio. Outside chance of scotty but I really don’t think so. Or guillo, who I think is still acting wolfy but who is so disconnected from the thread that I’m finding it hard not to townread.

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 4:45 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 4:41 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 4:36 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 4:30 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 2:39 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 2:09 pm Also it's interesting that this is the first real interaction of note I've had with you Porschuwaga.

Besides for meaningless @s at least. Why is this?

Because I wasnt around day 1 when you were and other than that you've hardly posted? Not that I've been the most active player either tbf but that's why I called on you to show up..

Ah, but you see, at least others have found me quite in contention. Plenty have said I'm towny, while plenty have argued I get too much credit from the MR kill. Stating that I'm just spanking and am not around seems to be at least contrary to this as others have shown evidence above of both engaging me and drawing conclusions.

Genuine question to you, coming from the lens that you actually are town (and I still lean towards you are, I’m just not feeling certain).

MR gave up in the thread and basically self-outed. Do you think you don’t shoot him in that scenario if you’re wolf?

I think we are missing a step here.

If I'm scum, I don't give the chance for MR to wiggle out of getting me credit by asking Neon. Hell even if I wanted to save MR for a yeet I don't put the power in another player's ball park.

Further if Neon gives me two options and I say I'll coinflip rather than just shooting my slanky teammate that'd also be suboptimal.

As wolf, I'm either 1. Going harder for the credit or 2. Stalling my teammates death.

There's VERY little scenarios where I do middling shit as W.

Yes, I like this response. So you’re saying the kill would be less clearing for you if the shot was MORE clean?

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 4:36 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 4:30 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 2:39 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 2:09 pm Also it's interesting that this is the first real interaction of note I've had with you Porschuwaga.

Besides for meaningless @s at least. Why is this?

Because I wasnt around day 1 when you were and other than that you've hardly posted? Not that I've been the most active player either tbf but that's why I called on you to show up..

Ah, but you see, at least others have found me quite in contention. Plenty have said I'm towny, while plenty have argued I get too much credit from the MR kill. Stating that I'm just spanking and am not around seems to be at least contrary to this as others have shown evidence above of both engaging me and drawing conclusions.

Genuine question to you, coming from the lens that you actually are town (and I still lean towards you are, I’m just not feeling certain).

MR gave up in the thread and basically self-outed. Do you think you don’t shoot him in that scenario if you’re wolf?

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 2:40 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 2:39 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 2:09 pm Also it's interesting that this is the first real interaction of note I've had with you Porschuwaga.

Besides for meaningless @s at least. Why is this?

Because I wasnt around day 1 when you were and other than that you've hardly posted? Not that I've been the most active player either tbf but that's why I called on you to show up..

I'm clearly not afraid of confronting you and going out of my way to get you to play

If you are having doubts on my alignment then I'd like you to ask yourself if you think I am fearless because I'm not town or because I probably just am
And also if you say I'm not town then that's spitting in mac's face and surely you would never do that to our boy mac

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 2:39 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 2:09 pm Also it's interesting that this is the first real interaction of note I've had with you Porschuwaga.

Besides for meaningless @s at least. Why is this?

Because I wasnt around day 1 when you were and other than that you've hardly posted? Not that I've been the most active player either tbf but that's why I called on you to show up..

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 2:37 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 2:07 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 1:55 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 10:22 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 9:24 am This post here from wolf JJJ has the near exact same feel to me:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Sep 02, 2022 5:06 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Sep 02, 2022 4:50 pm POE says it's Nook, but Wilgy is starting to Wilg me out...

What if, knowing he has some convalescence ahead of him, Wilgy puts in a Herculean D1 to setup a deep wolf game?

Could be. When I performed my prior review of Wilgy, it often felt like I had to nitpick to raise gripes. The case would have to be of the on-the-nose variety: he voted outed wolf, which invited Nanook's follow, and in so doing created a significant counterwagon to Sparkles. Then he fell off given his surgical needs. At this stage of play it's something that should be considered.

Is there something in particular that points your tinfoil in his direction instead of mine or Sabi's?

PoE created of Sloonei/Wilgy in spite of previous data and inclination compares to the PoE of Nook and I JJJ used. JJJ using Falcon's thinking to push this agenda screams in reminder when you use the context of Golden using Rondo's like/like check (which at the very least isn't still hard confirmed, and not the boldest claim imo).

And yes, I know you can't damn player behavior on the back of another player's previous actions, but wolf behavior I think finds a way to have lines of convergence where these patterns pop up and are correct.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 9:25 am (JJJ won Kid's Birthday Party Mafia with the above pivot for context)

Yep. Sad day, IIRC I was sus of JJJ's lukewarm playstyle, but didn't follow up enough due to pivoting. Golden's post does remind me of that tactic

I guess iata here if everyone but me agrees? Idk man
You can convince me it's an... attempt... at a pivot post. I think it would be weak if it legitimatally was
I dont think you could convince me its wilgy oriented specifically
And golden has done nothing with the so-called pivot and clearly seemed to be trying to think out loud when thread was dead
I would like to pump the brakes a little on this line of reasoning until I'm provided with far more reason to agree with the dissenters

I don't have to convince anything. I made an observation that indicates anti town behavior.

It's up to you to find it correct or not and react to it by means that suits your alignment.

I find it strange that rather than disagreement with said observation, you attempt to actually take away power from the observation by saying that it needs convincing.

This is semantics. I dont know if it is correct and I'm not convinced by your argument. If I said everyone but me agrees then that means I do not agree

You slank half the game away and this is what you hit me with? I'm having specific thoughts you may be 3p if you arent town

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 1:55 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 10:22 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 9:24 am This post here from wolf JJJ has the near exact same feel to me:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Sep 02, 2022 5:06 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Sep 02, 2022 4:50 pm POE says it's Nook, but Wilgy is starting to Wilg me out...

What if, knowing he has some convalescence ahead of him, Wilgy puts in a Herculean D1 to setup a deep wolf game?

Could be. When I performed my prior review of Wilgy, it often felt like I had to nitpick to raise gripes. The case would have to be of the on-the-nose variety: he voted outed wolf, which invited Nanook's follow, and in so doing created a significant counterwagon to Sparkles. Then he fell off given his surgical needs. At this stage of play it's something that should be considered.

Is there something in particular that points your tinfoil in his direction instead of mine or Sabi's?

PoE created of Sloonei/Wilgy in spite of previous data and inclination compares to the PoE of Nook and I JJJ used. JJJ using Falcon's thinking to push this agenda screams in reminder when you use the context of Golden using Rondo's like/like check (which at the very least isn't still hard confirmed, and not the boldest claim imo).

And yes, I know you can't damn player behavior on the back of another player's previous actions, but wolf behavior I think finds a way to have lines of convergence where these patterns pop up and are correct.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 9:25 am (JJJ won Kid's Birthday Party Mafia with the above pivot for context)

Yep. Sad day, IIRC I was sus of JJJ's lukewarm playstyle, but didn't follow up enough due to pivoting. Golden's post does remind me of that tactic

I guess iata here if everyone but me agrees? Idk man
You can convince me it's an... attempt... at a pivot post. I think it would be weak if it legitimatally was
I dont think you could convince me its wilgy oriented specifically
And golden has done nothing with the so-called pivot and clearly seemed to be trying to think out loud when thread was dead
I would like to pump the brakes a little on this line of reasoning until I'm provided with far more reason to agree with the dissenters

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 1:19 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 1:18 pm Further, I find myself not as keen on the whole Rondo thing as I still had half the mind to believe Sloonei is 3p.

Like, I have no reasons to object besides for that gut feeling, but it's there so probably at least worth mentioning.

I am town.

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 10:17 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 9:11 am

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 9:08 am @DrWilgy u just read the paragraph that had the word "wilgy" without reading the start of the post, didnt u? Im asking coz it looks like u missed the context

-t

No, it's a damn pivot post.

When someone needs to be added to the PoE because as a wolf you are running out of people to vote you make a post like that.

I can pull an example of this from another game. 1 sec.

meh
this also could happen as town right?

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 9:53 am

Spoiler: show

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 9:11 am

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 9:08 am @DrWilgy u just read the paragraph that had the word "wilgy" without reading the start of the post, didnt u? Im asking coz it looks like u missed the context

-t

No, it's a damn pivot post.

When someone needs to be added to the PoE because as a wolf you are running out of people to vote you make a post like that.

I can pull an example of this from another game. 1 sec.

Wanna make out?

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 9:36 am man i fucking love wilgy LMFAOOOOOOOOOOO

-t

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 1:33 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 10:42 pm @Porscha what did you want from me earlier?

Your thoughts on the game :^) all of it. Everything

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Sep 02, 2022 5:06 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Sep 02, 2022 4:50 pm POE says it's Nook, but Wilgy is starting to Wilg me out...

What if, knowing he has some convalescence ahead of him, Wilgy puts in a Herculean D1 to setup a deep wolf game?

Could be. When I performed my prior review of Wilgy, it often felt like I had to nitpick to raise gripes. The case would have to be of the on-the-nose variety: he voted outed wolf, which invited Nanook's follow, and in so doing created a significant counterwagon to Sparkles. Then he fell off given his surgical needs. At this stage of play it's something that should be considered.

Is there something in particular that points your tinfoil in his direction instead of mine or Sabi's?

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 9:08 am @DrWilgy u just read the paragraph that had the word "wilgy" without reading the start of the post, didnt u? Im asking coz it looks like u missed the context

-t

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:40 am Maybe, hopefully, SVS will actually be wolf. I tend to think more 3Pish, but we'll see.

But at this point, everyone left I've had a *solid* town read on this game. I've run out of suspects; someone has deepwolfed or at least pocketed me. To that end... I'm gonna take a page out of Mac's book and talk through my theoretical reasons why my town reads are wrong (and also why they're right).

Wilgy is wolf because... his team would have bussed MR anyway and it got him cred to go with the town. (But Wilgy just feels so town, doesn't he?)
Dizzy is wolf because... they always end up on the main wagon, but never cause it. They're blending in. (But they have also been real solvey).
Ender is wolf because... his ability uses, and explanation of it, have been a little strange and contradictory (But "My ability is surprising even me" is an odd path to choose if wolf, it's inherently sus)
Falcon is wolf because... he's gone suspiciously quiet and absent recently, and they were happy to let 112 burn after MR (But early interactive reads were really good for falcon, and what effort he has put in has been insightful)
Guillo is wolf because... actually I think Guillo has just had consistently wolfy behaviour (but people also have consistently vouched that Guillo is on town meta all game)
Kate is wolf because... she's playing a very masterful deepwolf game, which she's capable of (honestly can't find any basis to read Kate as wolf, this is my first true locktown on this list.)
Neon is wolf because... no, Neon isn't wolf. (As noted I worry that she could be a SK, but other than that she is lock cleared to me).
Party Crasher is wolf because... they've been erratic and seem to be lolling it up often (But Tutuu really does solve and 3P feels far more likely than wolf).
Porscha is wolf because... she's quiet, and just letting everyone else fall over themselves (But Porscha has solidly increased participation and reads with each passing day, and has some compatibility clearing)
Rondo is wolf because... he is good at deepwolfing, and odds are someone in the DnD server would be (But he's well trusted there by Kate and Michelle, and he hasn't done anything particularly antitown)
Scotty is wolf because... people have been suspecting him all game and he's been hard to elim (But, well... people have been suspecting him all flippin game and he feels like low-hanging fruit at times, the name it's easy for wolves to bring up).
Sig is wolf because... he lied about his Alison claim and shot me (But, realistically, he probably didn't lie and he just shot Alison, lockclearing him).
Sloonei is wolf because... his entire strategy has been about avoiding the vig shot by being perfectly average (But he also adds insight when he's about).
Urist is wolf because... he's been more loling and doing popins but he hasn't been *that* solvey and when it is it's often tinfoil stuff (But lots of people vouch for this being his town game).

Going through that...

Wilgy/Sloonei being wolf is a real possibility for me. I don't think Wilgy is as close to a lock clear as I felt previously.
I understand more why some people suspect Dizzy. When I thought about 'why is he wolf' rather than 'why is he town', I realised my townread on him is vibes.
Ender, I actually don't know why I townread him and this is bothersome.
And Falcon... the fact he's gone quiet is bothering me.

And I could add SVS back into this list, I guess, but I have no townread on SVS. I just think she's clearly anti-town of some form.

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 10:41 pm So it's everyone ok with killing Svs?

I go to sleep again for 2-3 hours and submit when i wake up

Urist wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:39 pm Wow so crazy that all the hydra heads managed to be online at once, it's almost hard to believe

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:16 pm You guys are funny if you think im scum here. I had no reason to comeback today to post, i had gotten away with no posting for two phases, there are no modkills or substitutions so i could have easily pull a DrWilgy and slank until later in the game.

sig wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 7:45 pm @Sloonei @DrWilgy you both need to make sure to be here at EOD to move off gullio unless he’s going to be voted out

Kate wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 4:32 pmTown and town.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:07 am Wilgy shouldn't be a shot ever.