The Syndicate

Heyy we won. Good game!

Epignosis wrote:motel room- why did you vote Wilgy for so long?

I put it on him early in the Day because Sloonei and JJJ had votes on people and I wanted to add to the spread. I can't really read Wilgy, pretty ok with him flipping, still am. After we had a public holiday here I came back to what looked like an easy wagon on him, and some Wilgy responses that seemed legitimately town, and wanted to contribute more to the EOD stuff, putting my vote on Dom cos I read that everyone had read him "bad" but only JJJ was voting him. I wanted to see if people who read him bad would follow through with votes and I don't really feel like they did (gut, need to double check). After that I went to Glorfindel who has been someone I could see hiding behind his posting style and hasn't really done a lot of anything before I had my meeting.

Do you still suspect Sloonei? For what prompted for your vote that stayed on him or for other things now?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I won't, however, feel bad for lynching people who post Linkin Park videos. I effing hate Linkin Park.

Limp Brizket

Dom wrote:Given all of this-- how do we fell about lorab?

I liked your read of her not being compatible as an Eloh-teammate. What do you think now?

Scotty wrote:I also expect a town flip. But am more suspicious of Sloonei right now even though Wilgy trusts him

Are you putting stock into Wilgy's read of Sloonei here before you know that he has flipped town, after he flipped town?

Scotty wrote:Voting Dom. I could very well vote Glorf too. So many changed votes makes me wonder if Glorf is actually bad, not around, and his teammates are attempting to stir the pot away from him.

Scotty wrote:Changed to Wilgy.

What happened here? this was 2 minutes apart

Glorfindel wrote:I come back to this thread and what do I find? Isn't this just charming... Seriously, if I'm the best you guys can come up with, we're in more trouble than I could've imagined...

I've literally read next to nothing that's been posted this Day phase so on the basis of my inability to make an informed decision right now, self preservation will determine my vote.

Was Wilgy the best alternative lynch wagon at this point?

Back to Wilgy huh what happened? I see Glorf popped his head in for a sec.

Dom wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

motel room wrote:

Dom wrote:

motel room wrote:Moved to glorf. I have a meeting in 10 and a shit ton of ppl behind my desk. I'm a bit swayed by Dom's yelling. Not voting Sloonei. Lets try glorf.

For the record who didnt switch to Dom despite reading him bad?

Literally what teh hell

Is this a question? I'm not sold on the yelling-loudly-is-town defence so what are you saying about my switch?

Wait, what?

this!!!

I have to go - ^ this is weaksauce, he didnt think of it when he answered me.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

motel room wrote:

Dom wrote:

motel room wrote:Moved to glorf. I have a meeting in 10 and a shit ton of ppl behind my desk. I'm a bit swayed by Dom's yelling. Not voting Sloonei. Lets try glorf.

For the record who didnt switch to Dom despite reading him bad?

Literally what teh hell

Is this a question? I'm not sold on the yelling-loudly-is-town defence so what are you saying about my switch?

Wait, what?

not 100% sold. I want his reaction not yours.

I have three minutes and wont be around til after the lynch.

Dom wrote:

motel room wrote:Moved to glorf. I have a meeting in 10 and a shit ton of ppl behind my desk. I'm a bit swayed by Dom's yelling. Not voting Sloonei. Lets try glorf.

For the record who didnt switch to Dom despite reading him bad?

Literally what teh hell

Is this a question? I'm not sold on the yelling-loudly-is-town defence so what are you saying about my switch?

Moved to glorf. I have a meeting in 10 and a shit ton of ppl behind my desk. I'm a bit swayed by Dom's yelling. Not voting Sloonei. Lets try glorf.

For the record who didnt switch to Dom despite reading him bad?

DrWilgy wrote:

motel room wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:Motel room, you realize the alternate vote form me during that flip flop was a no lynch right?

Linki - that gives me leeway to vote Dom. I'm in.

Yeah but you put it there. You tied it.

?

I'm not sure what you mean by me tieing it. I did the opposite.

I need to double check the way it played out, all I know is I felt the same way as Sloonei.

Dom wrote:Dom - civ
Epi - lean civ
Glorf - bad
Inh - civ
JJJ - civ
LoRab - lean bad
Motel - was civ, voitng for me after never mentioning me is :supsish:
Quin - null
Scotty - civ
Sloonei - bad

I thought you didnt even know who I was?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

motel room wrote:Moved to Sweet Dom

Why?

Everyone seems to think he's bad now. I want to see who follows through.

DrWilgy wrote:Motel room, you realize the alternate vote form me during that flip flop was a no lynch right?

Linki - that gives me leeway to vote Dom. I'm in.

Yeah but you put it there. You tied it.

Moved to Sweet Dom

To weigh in on the Sloonei opposers - I think town Sloonei asks questions, scum Sloonei asks questions in defence. With that quote about Wilgy looking bad if INH was town, I'm not reading that as bad because I thought the exact same thing but didn't write it in the thread. It was very possible that Wilgy's flip flopping vote was his uncertainty with how to drop the hammer knowing the outcome.

And this thing of him asking Epi who his next suspect is, I don't get why that's suss. It seems like the ploy , if Sloonei were bad, would be "frame job" but later on Epi reckons frame jobs never work out.

I don't think he's scum.


woah, ton of "linki" (i still dont know what that stands for)

I'm here, I have some meetings but I will be around.

insertnamehere wrote:

motel room wrote:Here's whats been on my mind -

The silvertongue character can stop a lynch not necessarily "save a person". I don't understand who as town, and silvertongue is town, would have wanted to stop that lynch except for INH. But I want to hear what INH thinks.

If it wasn't him, I don't think silvertongue would have to hide that they had stopped the lynch by contributing to the INH wagon or caring about the EOD tie. Im saying this cos Glorfindel was awfully slow acting (at least what it seemed to me) when he arrived and saw a tie - so I was thinking he could have PM'd the mod then and went to stop the lynch before getting into voting but that doesn't make much sense. So it would be someone off-wagon.

But I want to hear what INH thinks.

what do you want from me, motel room?

All I'm gonna say on the subject is that I'm considering randomizing my vote for the foreseeable future.

Ok I see what you're putting down, and doesn't look like anyone's rejected it. Hot dang.

Sloonei wrote:

motel room wrote:

Sloonei wrote:I'm not adept at nightkill analysis, but perhaps someone who is would like to speculate on these last few kills. MP and then Mac are some odd choices. I get that they're probably a little gun-shy about going after Jay again. Perhaps they're trying to knock off the protective role(s) and that explains the seemingly odd choices of nightkill. Thoughts?

Nightkill analysis is wifom-city. Loudest thinker is often the baddest.

But there's also the thing of us pointing fingers days ago at players talking about Epi when Epi died which didnt go anywhere, and now Epi has a lot to say complete with graphs and screenshots about Mac just as Mac dies.

My tinfoil about Epi involves this as well. On Night 1/Day 2 a point was made that zebra and INH looked good for going after Epi 1.0 during Night 1, the same night that he'd be killed. Now Epi 2.0 did the same thing to Mac on Night 5. I could see the possibility that he's playing off that earlier theory to earn townie points.

But I do not think that is the case. His thing with me immediately after Mac's death felt sincere. I don't think that's the sort of suspicion a scum player would come up with, even if it was a bit erratic from my point of view.

I've never seen a scum Epi so I don't know what I am or aren't looking out for.

I was pretty sure INH was scum so there's a lot of rejigging I need to do.

I popped a quick vote on Wilgy just now

6 guests? I better be getting a cut of the door.

Sloonei wrote:I'm not adept at nightkill analysis, but perhaps someone who is would like to speculate on these last few kills. MP and then Mac are some odd choices. I get that they're probably a little gun-shy about going after Jay again. Perhaps they're trying to knock off the protective role(s) and that explains the seemingly odd choices of nightkill. Thoughts?

Nightkill analysis is wifom-city. Loudest thinker is often the baddest.

But there's also the thing of us pointing fingers days ago at players talking about Epi when Epi died which didnt go anywhere, and now Epi has a lot to say complete with graphs and screenshots about Mac just as Mac dies.

Hi sorry I missed the day and vote but not at all really sorry cos I had a great weekend with my ladyfriend seeing bands and having lazy breakfasts in the sun.

righty-o

Here's whats been on my mind -

The silvertongue character can stop a lynch not necessarily "save a person". I don't understand who as town, and silvertongue is town, would have wanted to stop that lynch except for INH. But I want to hear what INH thinks.

If it wasn't him, I don't think silvertongue would have to hide that they had stopped the lynch by contributing to the INH wagon or caring about the EOD tie. Im saying this cos Glorfindel was awfully slow acting (at least what it seemed to me) when he arrived and saw a tie - so I was thinking he could have PM'd the mod then and went to stop the lynch before getting into voting but that doesn't make much sense. So it would be someone off-wagon.

But I want to hear what INH thinks.

hi Epi welcome back

Quin wrote:

motel room wrote:When during the day did you stop the lynch quin?

Nope.

heh fishing

When during the day did you stop the lynch quin?

Same

I guess.

That was worth waiting around an hour and a half for. Thanks cowardly lawyer.

Um ok, would he have fought so hard if he was going to save himself if he was Silvertongue? Who opposed INH's lynch enough to cancel it, if that's what it does?

Ok

At least one person should have a pretty good idea if he's CUNDALINI or JIM GOOSE.

Is there another reason why he could be pardoned?

Glorfindel wrote:

motel room wrote:I don't think it was ever 5-all.

I'd swear that it was... maybe it was 4 all? or maybe I'm losing my mind It may not matter but for my own peace of mind, is there no way to track the movement in the votes?

Its ok, lets just see how this goes

I don't think it was ever 5-all.

Sloonei wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:Nah. Baddies I'd vote for. GTH baddies I still need to think about.

Glorf why is it 5-3 then?

Why was I off your baddiedar on Day 2? Am I back on it now?

I don't remember when u got off of it, and you are still off it.

But you distrust me and don't want to vote for the same person as me?

If he's scum thats a good sign for you, according to scotty.

ok fuck

Glorfindel wrote:If I have to make a choice, I have to go with someone that I think has at least some kind of case against them.

No one will be lynched then dragonslayer

Glorfindel wrote:

Glorfindel wrote:

Sloonei wrote:Hi Glorf, Hi Mac. Wanna help us break this tie?

Hey, Sloonei What the hell have I walked into? I was leaning towards INH yesterday and was hoping that he'd return today to answer the comments I put to him last night. I don't know what the fact that he hasn't returned says...

I'm not 100% sold on him and to be honest, I am genuinely concerned for his state of mind after yesterday's events

You're his only solid scum read.

I have a bad feeling.

I'm going to stand my ground wrt the vote so that I'm one less unknown when its 1 minute away from lynch ok

Sloonei wrote:We seem to agree on the 4 main candidates, motel room. I propose we sit here twiddling our thumbs until someone else comes along.

I got two thumbs and a heart.

I dont know whether I like or dont like that scotty isnt putting a vote on INH or indiglo.

Sloonei wrote:My preferred lynch order for the 4 players who currently have multiple votes:

INH
Scotty
indiglo
DrWilgy

Avoiding a tie is obviously a priority. I am not willing to move my vote off INH for indiglo at this time. I will move to Scotty if that will produce a lynch. It doesn't appear we have a ton of people online right now, and only zebra is not currently on one of these wagons. I think those of us who are here should be working together to make the most satisfying lynch.

Would y'all who are here mind sharing your own rankings of these 4 players?

I had indiglo and scotty other way around before scotty showed up in the thread, now those two look pretty equal to me in your order, and agree Wilgy at the bottom.

I am getting all up in people's guts. Hopefully the back way.

Scotty seeing as you're around, what do you make of insertnamehere? Gut read?

a2thezebra wrote:Why make Day 1 rainbow lists (because that's right he made TWO rainbow lists on Day 1), which are meant to be thorough by definition, if they're not going to be thorough? Why not just list the reads that you feel relatively confident about and leave it at that, rather than trying to appear a thousand times more substantive? Come on.

This absolutely bothers me and I used to have it on my list of tells back in RYM but I've sort of dropped it here because everyone here is so into it. Didn't even pick it up this time.

Scotty wrote:His votes just seem too parallel to Elo's. ,

Do you think scum would normally vote together?

Hey scotty

motel room wrote:

Scotty wrote:Just looking at the polls of the past few days, my biggest suspicion lies with Wilgy. I'm glad I didn't replace him, because I think he is bad, whereas The role I was given is not.

Note: I haven't read people's manifestos since day 1 when Scotty 1.0 was lynched, but I will try my best to catch up

Scotty wrote:I'm actually not going to comb through most of Day 2. I wish the poll thread had the order of the votes, but Wilgy's vote parallels with Elo.

Hard to do a voting analysis unless I spend an hour comparing time stamps from 30 pages ago, and my time is limited as a toddler's vocabulary is limited.

Is this just based on the last day's vote? Wilgy's vote on LoRab?

I'm not sure why you've singled out Wilgy. What do you make of the other voters on that wagon?