The Syndicate

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 5:29 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 5:24 pm Told y'all LC was mafia.

I couldn't quite figure out what Falcon was cuz he was sensible but wolfy. 3p makes a great deal of sense.

Nanook appears to have attempted to revolve his entire game about pocketing me so to at least have my last read calling him scummy feels goodish.

112 obviously was just pure rand so meh.

To be a fly on the wall in wolfchat for this one.

Gg town though.

Most of my game was distancing from Brad, which indirecrly meant pocketing you when you caught him, yeah

I kinda figured...

anne wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 5:32 pmSo... Now what

now .... we play the game

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 5:14 pm GGs

I actually did find 3 easter eggs too late, but I also found one successfully and shot guillo with it lol

Torturing me keeping me alive. Rude honestly.

Told y'all LC was mafia.

I couldn't quite figure out what Falcon was cuz he was sensible but wolfy. 3p makes a great deal of sense.

Nanook appears to have attempted to revolve his entire game about pocketing me so to at least have my last read calling him scummy feels goodish.

112 obviously was just pure rand so meh.

To be a fly on the wall in wolfchat for this one.

Gg town though.

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 1:09 am I am waiting for Illario and Mac to post and I am making my breakfast

Imma bbl

lolwot

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 6:28 pm Gotta be honest, all my wim got sucked out when I learned I’d been blocked, and all my wim got knocked out again with srceen having done it with the distinct possibility he is just a lazy town.

Like…why did you block me of all people?

You're telling me town Scotty found 4 eggs and used them all only to be blocked by town Srceenplay.

Seems quite the coincidence.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 5:03 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 4:58 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 4:53 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 3:34 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 2:23 pm Idk if screen is mafia or not but I can't tell you how many times I've heard "we'll worry about him later" and he ends up endgaming, as both alignments lol

kinda scummy

Hes a cockroach

Its a compliment

i mean your post is scummy

I'm aware what you meant but you're wrong so I'm trying to save you some embarrassment

lol ok

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 4:53 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 3:34 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 2:23 pm Idk if screen is mafia or not but I can't tell you how many times I've heard "we'll worry about him later" and he ends up endgaming, as both alignments lol

kinda scummy

Hes a cockroach

Its a compliment

i mean your post is scummy

I only voted you for science.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 2:23 pm Idk if screen is mafia or not but I can't tell you how many times I've heard "we'll worry about him later" and he ends up endgaming, as both alignments lol

kinda scummy

anne wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 2:06 pm @Ilario if LC is mafia then Nook is the partner in your theory, not Mac. I’ll explain later but I think Mac is town

ugh fine

ilario wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 1:03 pm Lc is a wolf. He can’t kill the two people most aggressively pushing him (mac/nook) because there’s a partner in there. Likely mac. He can’t kill me or Anne or Michelle who are the other likely NK targets because we all had him as town d1. Porscha sussed lc and seanzie heavily, Sean is town, no way scum kills porcha if they are 0/2 tunneling townies. Porscha srd lc and Sean had a theory that lc was involved in some scum threatre. Hence why porcha and Sean were targeted (I’m assuming guillo is the 3p kill because someone said so and I cbf to fact-check).

I'm not his partner. I'm just really good at mafia.

anne wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 10:48 am The level 0 answer as to why me and Mac are alive and Seanzie is dead is that Seanzie was right about something. Which is either Nanook is mafia or Mac is mafia.

The level 1 answer is that me and Mac are both town and they're counting on Mac to continue tunneling me and LC and hoping that distracts us.

The level 2 answer is maybe Seanzie is a really good player and would have gotten a correct solve in this player list eventually. I don't know how true that is because I've never played with Seanzie so I'm operating under Level 0 and Level 1 but I don't really do NKA.

Seanzie didn't even scumread me.

ilario wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 1:26 am Mac here’s my dilemma, I think u and Anne are towny. Which wolves do not kill either of you and why?

why is this directed at only me?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 9:00 pm I think there is a very reasonable world where Nanook and LC are wolves together.

this is a pretty fun post

112 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 1:13 pm

Wisdom wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 1:11 pm

anne wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 12:48 pm @Wisdom

I guess my concern here then is if you ISO'd these people why are there such few examples of things you actually find scummy or townie about them? I'm looking at your ISO now and you just call Guillo town with no reasoning after expressing that you were wary of him after misreading him a few times and were deferring to other people on that, but it seems like that line of thought doesn't really continue elsewhere?

Also your vote on Rando seems like RVS. Like I would have never gathered that you ISO'd him, found him scum, and decided to keep the vote from the content of your posts. The Michelle townread I buy because I see you've interacted with her probably the most out of anyone so I won't harp on that point.

I'm quite bad at making myself heard early on if I'm not invested and in a mind space where I can formulate well. @ilario can attest to this.

Rondo's ISO was pure fluff, I'm pretty sure I said it was pure fluff (implying I had read the ISO), don't know what I should have done differently.

I don't share every thought I have or ISO I do, don't think it's relevant really ^^

too cheerful

@112 where is the cheer sorry I don't see any cheer.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 1:11 am During Jestermania when I was a wolf with Scotty, we entered Day 2 and I told Scotty to put a vote onto me.

Scotty agreed, put the vote on me very early, a wagon formed on me and I don't think it moved at all.
I did tell Scotty throughout this particular day phase that he should just stay on me and eat the towncred. However he does tell me that he's going to vote off and go to someone else either during EOD or slightly before to try to get a town (Or not mafia) member yeeted. I still tell him that he should just stay on me and I'll try to save myself.
During EOD I try to start a CFD on town, however Scotty also started to try to CFD a town player, but ended up settling back onto me when told to not worry.

He kinda does something vaguely similar to Wisdom here in this game.

When Wisdom wargon starts up, Scotty puts a vote on Wisdom.
Scotty also never moves this vote the rest of the day phase.

Right up until EOD, Scotty flips and votes Dolby when the wagon starts up.
I ping and quote Scotty and tell him to get back on the Wisdom wagon, and he at first tells me to hold on a second because Dolby wasn't the lead wagon yet.
But then votes back on Wisdom when the Dolby wagon doesn't completely take off.

There's a chance here that Scotty could be a wolf and he ended up doing the exact same thing on mistake and got wrapped into bussing Wisdom.

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

Nanook has a dead town and a rej voting for him too. This is why I am voting rej btw. I feel like there is equity for rej to be mafia voting teammate Nanook or a town here.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 1:05 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 1:00 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:50 am @Michelle

What are you doing this game?

You decided to go off wagon and vote Dolby, and almost let me die over Wisdom who ended up flipping wolf.

Then you're deciding to go after Anne for...voting Wisdom and townreading you?

I think Anne is scum, it's just simple as that.

You would be revenged at a town flip and you could bring more infos than the Wisdom flip, but I didn't want to vote you.
A Wisdom red flip after your town flip would show to Mac as suspicious because he pushed for you.

As you see, no one has now a good grasp of the game and everyone is guessing, helping wolves to hide.
Nanook wants you dead to solve the day 1 wagons because in this way maybe the game may be cracked open, and that's towny for him, probably, but i am not very sure.
You better show your alignament by play iykwim

Who is wolf fypov?

Who gives a shit about info, flip wolves Michelle, that's the name of the game.
If you think I'm town and Wisdom isn't you should've just voted her to keep chances high of flipping a wolf, which it would've since Wisdom flipped wolf.

Anne is town also. She doesn't bus.

I'm writing something up give me a second.

Gaining info helps you flip many wolves.

Anne bussed her partner in the very last game I played with her, as mafia.

Give me three wolf names. I asked you before and you dodged it.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 9:08 pm ZAP!

Wisdom (6): Scotty, DrWilgy, 112, anne, Dolby, Lime Coke
Lime Coke (4): Wisdom, Seanzie, MacDougall, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME (2): Rej, Guillotine
Dolby (1): Michelle
DrWilgy (1): falcon45ca
falcon45ca (1): ilario
Scotty (1): Srceenplay
Seanzie (1): Porscha

So Porscha, a town that was voting Seanzie who the mafia killed, got zero votes on this day. She'd have been a pretty easy place for wolves to yolo a vote at EOD if yoloing was on the menu yet she got none. Kinda makes me think no yoloing occurred and the mafia are largely voting on wagons?

@Michelle why are you voting Dolby at EOD here? What was your read on Wisdom/Lime Coke prior to voting Dolby and why weren't you voting there?

@falcon45ca why are you voting DrWilgy at EOD here? What was your read on Wisdom/Lime Coke prior to voting Dolby and why weren't you voting there?

@ilario why are you voting Falcon at EOD here? What was your read on Wisdom/Lime Coke prior to voting Dolby and why weren't you voting there?

@srceenplay why are you voting Scotty at EOD here? What was your read on Wisdom/Lime Coke prior to voting Dolby and why weren't you voting there?

ilario wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:53 am Falcon isn’t a bad place to pile our votes on. Nobody trs him, he hasn’t done anything. So if he’s at real risk of dying he might actually be towny and or contribute. The one game I’ve seen him he was scum he did nothing all game and his reads were as graspy as they are here. He fossed me for having a cute avatar that game… yes really. And his read on Dolby this game feels equally as bad. He hasn’t outright tunneled anyone so far this game so a bunch of people piling votes on him until he decides to be towny or actually contribute will be helpful imo

/vote falcon

Mmm. Maybe. I want more data before I make a read on Falcon.

Scenario 5 involves them both being town, the LC wagon being pure aside from Wisdom and Wisdom going over because the wolves are incompetent. Not entirely impossible lol.

ilario wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:55 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:50 am

ilario wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:47 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:44 am What I have certainty on:

Anne is capable of fooling Lime Coke with ease and is not out of her wolf range even after tunneling Wisdom because I legit just watched her do exactly that to Apoc as mafia.
Lime Coke hardcore pocketing Anne is not off the table either. It is exactly how he would play this game with her.
Lime Coke is less likely to bus than Anne by a fair amount.
If Lime Coke is town then Nanook is probably mafia considering that would make the rest of the LC wagon (aside from Wisdom) pure, and if there are no mafia aside from Wisdom voting LC on the counter there with town Mac and town Seanzie both there, what the fuck are the scum actually doing?

Fair enough. I hard agree with the first two. Third point is situational but I can see where ur coming from in that lc probably doesn’t expect him to be able to carry in a table with people who know him and is hence less likely to bus. Fourth point I agree with too.

But regardless of these points, what do you actually find scummy about lc and/or Anne. You don’t have to clear them for voting wisdom and tbh that’s totally fair and I think good play to still be wary, but why are they scummy?

I forget why exactly I thought Anne was scummy to begin with but for me Lime Coke was just outside his town range until I entered the game. When I entered the game in catch up mode and read his ISO I found it extremely limp. Generally I can see town Lime Coke clearly and quickly so me having a gut scumread on Lime Coke is more relevant than it would be for others. My confidence in reading Lime Coke is quite high.

@Lime Coke if you are town here of course I will reevaluate my confidence so you need not overreact to this.

He’s been banned on 3 different sites. Do you think that could play into him being more “limp” ? Fwiw I’m taking ur read of him into consideration here. I wanna know how @anne reads him too rn

Nope. I don't townread him for bannable shit I townread him because he has clarity to his reads and doesn't come across like a wolf just trying to figure out what to say like he did here.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:54 am

ilario wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:48 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:44 am

ilario wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:40 am So mac do u think I’m mafia too?

You are most assuredly in my poe yes.

Understandable

What’s ur poe

Which slots do you think are town with confidence ?

Dolby and Rondo are my most confident town. Finding myself on the wrong side of the day 1 requires me to reevaluate a fair bit so I can get more town.

I am quite confident that if LC is town, Nanook is mafia. Nanook can be voting a mafia LC though if the mafia wanted to chop LC over Wisdom and the distancing was aggressive between them. Obviously not entirely likely. I think there is always a mafia between them though because if Nanook = town then there is ONE mafia voting for LC and it's the dead one that went over over him so you have to question where the mafia voters are if not trying to save Wisdom over town LC?

Scenario 1 - Wisdom mafia, LC town. Nanook is probably mafia and the only one that earnestly tried to save Wisdom (or me if you want to play that, or both of us).
Scenario 2 - Wisdom mafia, LC mafia. The mafia bussed Wisdom over LC for some unknown reason.
Scenario 3 - Wisdom mafia, LC mafia, Nanook mafia. Wisdom went over instead of LC by accident because other mafia are potatoing (doesn't feel accurate because LC/Nanook feel quite enthusiastic about this game).
Scenario 4 - Wisdom mafia, LC mafia, Nanook, town. Wisdom went over instead of LC by accident.

I think like, level one you have to go Nanook (or me) first because LC was on the correct side of the chop (so I don't blame anyone for wanting to do this, not that anyone IS for some unknown reason lol) but given Nanook and I were mind melding on day 1 re. LC's play I am personally favouring the non level 1 route on it. Notwithstanding LC realistically should view me/Nanook as always having min one mafia but he townreads me and is practically ignoring Nanook's existence which is also a bad look whereas Nanook gets it.

ilario wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:48 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:44 am

ilario wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:40 am So mac do u think I’m mafia too?

You are most assuredly in my poe yes.

Understandable

What’s ur poe

Which slots do you think are town with confidence ?

Dolby and Rondo are my most confident town. Finding myself on the wrong side of the day 1 requires me to reevaluate a fair bit so I can get more town.

Dolby wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:50 am when did this become let's sheep mac lol

I mean if all games were let's sheep mac town would win 90% of the time. Even if i randed mafia.

Dolby wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:51 am im gonna do some other stuff for a bit

Lame.

Dolby wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:48 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:46 am

Dolby wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:42 am tbf he did kinda imply that lc and anne were the most plausible bussers (which is still a whack take), and then he had to defend it for a while

They easily are the most plausible bussers. 112 would stand to gain fuck all and is essentially throwing by not voting LC over Wisdom. Scotty is very towny. The other person is you. Did you bus Wisdom Dolby?

yes i bussed wisdom

i disagree with scotty being very towny

112 looked good sussing wisdom in the beginning but I don't think that they were ever present at a point where the yeet looked like it was not wisdom. Still, if scum they did gain fuck all

Happy to do some solving around Scotty. I need to review that because as it stands I am relying on a couple of one post snap reads that made me go "lol scotty just town". What's your concern?

ilario wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:47 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:44 am What I have certainty on:

Anne is capable of fooling Lime Coke with ease and is not out of her wolf range even after tunneling Wisdom because I legit just watched her do exactly that to Apoc as mafia.
Lime Coke hardcore pocketing Anne is not off the table either. It is exactly how he would play this game with her.
Lime Coke is less likely to bus than Anne by a fair amount.
If Lime Coke is town then Nanook is probably mafia considering that would make the rest of the LC wagon (aside from Wisdom) pure, and if there are no mafia aside from Wisdom voting LC on the counter there with town Mac and town Seanzie both there, what the fuck are the scum actually doing?

Fair enough. I hard agree with the first two. Third point is situational but I can see where ur coming from in that lc probably doesn’t expect him to be able to carry in a table with people who know him and is hence less likely to bus. Fourth point I agree with too.

But regardless of these points, what do you actually find scummy about lc and/or Anne. You don’t have to clear them for voting wisdom and tbh that’s totally fair and I think good play to still be wary, but why are they scummy?

I forget why exactly I thought Anne was scummy to begin with but for me Lime Coke was just outside his town range until I entered the game. When I entered the game in catch up mode and read his ISO I found it extremely limp. Generally I can see town Lime Coke clearly and quickly so me having a gut scumread on Lime Coke is more relevant than it would be for others. My confidence in reading Lime Coke is quite high.

@Lime Coke if you are town here of course I will reevaluate my confidence so you need not overreact to this.

Dolby wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:42 am tbf he did kinda imply that lc and anne were the most plausible bussers (which is still a whack take), and then he had to defend it for a while

They easily are the most plausible bussers. 112 would stand to gain fuck all and is essentially throwing by not voting LC over Wisdom. Scotty is very towny. The other person is you. Did you bus Wisdom Dolby?

ilario wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:41 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:40 am

ilario wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:39 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:36 am Tell me, when you suspect two players of being mafia and those two players plus another that you aren't reading either way vote a separate player, do you develop an implicit bias that the recipient of said votes might be town by proxy?

Sure. But why are u so convinced they’re mafia? What exactly did they do to warrant this level of certainty that you would be willing to read wisdom as town just by the mere presence of they’re lit vote on her?

I am unsure what I've said on this second day of the game to imply that I am "convinced" or "have certainty" that's you just prescribing emphasis where there isn't any.

Well most of ur focus is on them, is it unreasonable for me to come to that conclusion?

Yes it is unreasonable for you to come to the conclusion that I have certainty that they are mafia because I have not said that they are mafia with any certainty whatsoever on this day.

ilario wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:40 am So mac do u think I’m mafia too?

You are most assuredly in my poe yes.

What I have certainty on:

Anne is capable of fooling Lime Coke with ease and is not out of her wolf range even after tunneling Wisdom because I legit just watched her do exactly that to Apoc as mafia.
Lime Coke hardcore pocketing Anne is not off the table either. It is exactly how he would play this game with her.
Lime Coke is less likely to bus than Anne by a fair amount.
If Lime Coke is town then Nanook is probably mafia considering that would make the rest of the LC wagon (aside from Wisdom) pure, and if there are no mafia aside from Wisdom voting LC on the counter there with town Mac and town Seanzie both there, what the fuck are the scum actually doing?

ilario wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:39 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:36 am Tell me, when you suspect two players of being mafia and those two players plus another that you aren't reading either way vote a separate player, do you develop an implicit bias that the recipient of said votes might be town by proxy?

Sure. But why are u so convinced they’re mafia? What exactly did they do to warrant this level of certainty that you would be willing to read wisdom as town just by the mere presence of they’re lit vote on her?

I am unsure what I've said on this second day of the game to imply that I am "convinced" or "have certainty" that's you just prescribing emphasis where there isn't any.

ilario wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:37 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:34 am

ilario wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:27 am

Dolby wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:18 am So Ilario, I really need you to talk me into how Mac has been towny here.

In a vacuum for an anon player, I'd take his behavior as fairly sus, and arguably the towniest thing about him is the way that LC and Anne, whom I still townread, have treated him

and like I'm not singling you out for this read I'm just

baffled that the msot scumread he's been is "yeah one of these three people is a wolf bc gamestate" and he's on that list

Mostly just tone/conviction/drive to solve

His actual reads have been very concerning, yeah. And he switched his read on seanzie yesterday eod in a weird way.

Explain how my seanzie read switch was weird.

Because he was townie and I expect you to have maintained ur tr on him. You were reading him correctly and then outta nowhere switch to calling him scum

I outta nowhere switched to scumreading Seanzie and then killed him to really drive home how shit my d1 reads are and give myself an amazing platform for tunneling the same two players again that are now being widely townread for killing a wolf.

Dolby wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:37 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:36 am Tell me, when you suspect two players of being mafia and those two players plus another that you aren't reading either way vote a separate player, do you develop an implicit bias that the recipient of said votes might be town by proxy?

yeah but you shift your read on them when the "town by proxy" votee flips mafia

I did shift my read. I shifted it from "I will eat white dog shit if one of these two players is not mafia" to "I still think they might be mafia".

Where am I voting right now?

If it assists I just returned from a long weekend at my father in law's place that had scattered 4g reception and am now at my desk for the first time since this game began.

ilario wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:36 am The most concerning thing about mac is that the only time he’s engaged on something I’ve said about him is when I doubted his alignment for a moment

So the most concerning thing about mac is this very second. How convenient.

Tell me, when you suspect two players of being mafia and those two players plus another that you aren't reading either way vote a separate player, do you develop an implicit bias that the recipient of said votes might be town by proxy?

This chicken here has white flesh, is warm blooded and breathes oxygen. Therefore it is a pig.

ilario wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:34 am Shield might not be the right word but u did try to use wagonomics to imply she’s town in a similar manner u used on rask in the swag city game

It was about as similar as a chicken is to a pig.

ilario wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:27 am

Dolby wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:18 am So Ilario, I really need you to talk me into how Mac has been towny here.

In a vacuum for an anon player, I'd take his behavior as fairly sus, and arguably the towniest thing about him is the way that LC and Anne, whom I still townread, have treated him

and like I'm not singling you out for this read I'm just

baffled that the msot scumread he's been is "yeah one of these three people is a wolf bc gamestate" and he's on that list

Mostly just tone/conviction/drive to solve

His actual reads have been very concerning, yeah. And he switched his read on seanzie yesterday eod in a weird way.

Explain how my seanzie read switch was weird.

Dolby wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:30 am

ilario wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:21 am

Dolby wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:15 am eh w/e

if people back up your tone being ok for you this game it's ~fine.

it does skeeve me that you were like "why is it bad for me to townread wisdom" then later say "idk why i was townreading wisdom they should be null"

I don't know why a lot of people said that either, it just kinda isn't true for her in my experience

When did I say the first quote?

But for clarity I’ll explain what happened. I spitted out a bunch of trs like I usually do at the start of games. They usually don’t mean much it’s always based on gut and usually a mafia is in there because I’m not putting too much thought into it. Then later on someone asked about that earlier read on wisdom so I opened her iso, it was pretty empty so I called her null. That’s a pretty normal and fair progression and hence why I find it weird wilgy is jumping on it. Mac started the game shielding wisdom too and actively tried to cw anyone not named her much more louder than anyone else did. Other players switched their vote eod onto other cws too that weren’t wisdom. So I fail to see how it’s specifically scummy for me with how I treated wisdom when I was okay with her being pushed and didn’t actively try to cw someone else loudly. Like anne said, If I’m scum I either commit to bussing wisdom since she’s good as dead or I vote a cw to save her, I gain no benefit from just parking on falcon and peacing out

tbh you are right, the egregiousness scale goes Mac>you>>Michelle

I am guilty of having a solve outside of wisdom and pushing there. I am guilty of that solve containing players pivotal to what turned out to be a wolf wagon on wisdom. I am not guilty of shielding wisdom or anything egregious.

The bolded here is actually an apt description of what I also did except at least my vote was pointed at someone I had actually cased and a desire to see flip. This self defense is also something I've used on myself as a wolf before.

I would love for you to demonstrate where I actively attempted to "shield" wisdom.

I would also love for you to demonstrate a game in which I treated any wolf teammate that ridiculously.

ilario wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:21 am

Dolby wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:15 am eh w/e

if people back up your tone being ok for you this game it's ~fine.

it does skeeve me that you were like "why is it bad for me to townread wisdom" then later say "idk why i was townreading wisdom they should be null"

I don't know why a lot of people said that either, it just kinda isn't true for her in my experience

When did I say the first quote?

But for clarity I’ll explain what happened. I spitted out a bunch of trs like I usually do at the start of games. They usually don’t mean much it’s always based on gut and usually a mafia is in there because I’m not putting too much thought into it. Then later on someone asked about that earlier read on wisdom so I opened her iso, it was pretty empty so I called her null. That’s a pretty normal and fair progression and hence why I find it weird wilgy is jumping on it. Mac started the game shielding wisdom too and actively tried to cw anyone not named her much more louder than anyone else did. Other players switched their vote eod onto other cws too that weren’t wisdom. So I fail to see how it’s specifically scummy for me with how I treated wisdom when I was okay with her being pushed and didn’t actively try to cw someone else loudly. Like anne said, If I’m scum I either commit to bussing wisdom since she’s good as dead or I vote a cw to save her, I gain no benefit from just parking on falcon and peacing out

I see that these days not offering a read on a slot that one can't read is tantamount to "shielding and trying to cw anyone not named" them.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 10:30 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 10:29 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 10:23 pm

Dolby wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 10:18 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 10:16 pm

Dolby wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 10:10 pm lc why do you tr mac

I've said this before he wouldn't be going after us like this as mafia, he probably just leaves us alone with a townread, jumps around elsewhere, then proceeds to night kill us.

ok so him being static on votes 1 and 2 on a wolf being scum isn't a cause for concern?

Sadly, probably not.

The dude bounces his vote around and usually hits on his own teammates a few times to distance as mafia.

He's kind of the opposite of Rabbit, town wise.

Spoiler: show

Who should be in this game because it's Easter.

Rude. Again.

Which part?

I'm done with this nonsense. Play mafia instead of whatever this is. If you and Anne are the killer towns and I'm the moron here go find more pelts and keep making me look dumb plz.

anne wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 10:17 pm I townread mac cause he's treating me exactly like how he did in the draft game lmao

And also I think he just tries to pocket me again if he's wolf like he did last time

Also just a lot of v!Mac flare, not a lot of messing around which is what i associate with his wolf game

Am I? How is that exactly?

You associate my wolf game with a lot of messing around eh? Yet I pocketed you. And didn't mess around really at all in that game. Seems like a lot of bs to me.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 10:23 pm

Dolby wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 10:18 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 10:16 pm

Dolby wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 10:10 pm lc why do you tr mac

I've said this before he wouldn't be going after us like this as mafia, he probably just leaves us alone with a townread, jumps around elsewhere, then proceeds to night kill us.

ok so him being static on votes 1 and 2 on a wolf being scum isn't a cause for concern?

Sadly, probably not.

The dude bounces his vote around and usually hits on his own teammates a few times to distance as mafia.

He's kind of the opposite of Rabbit, town wise.

Spoiler: show

Who should be in this game because it's Easter.

Rude. Again.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 10:18 pm I like how you flat out ignore me saying "We got Wisdom killed who flipped mafia" constantly just to come back with the same shitty answer.

*cringe*

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 10:17 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 10:15 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 10:12 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 10:10 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 10:07 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 10:02 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 9:59 pm And I've even gone to you in games to actually help solve and sheeped your Ender read in Veggie Wars and stuff like that since I know you're a good town player.

If it was literally any other game I'd probably be handling this differently, but it's kinda not? And that's kinda why I'm getting heated.

No you are upset because I'm not letting go of my scumread. If I let everyone who had an emotional reaction to my suspicions get away with it do you think I'd be half as effective?

I'm upset because we buried W!Wisdom and you decide to still scumread us.

You're punishing us for winning, when in reality if you're also town, you should be realizing that we're being insanely helpful to you, even when you've been against us this entire game.

Nobody ever bussed in mafia said the Lime Coke

We sure as hell didn't.

If you want to look the rest of the Wisdom wagon, I'm fine with that because I don't know their bussing philosophies compared to Anne.

so you're partners?

We're both town so you could call us partners, yes.

Holy fucking shit dude.

It's a meme Brad.