The Syndicate

come on guys dont lose momentum! YOU CAN STILL DO THIS!

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:26 am Im here. Someone catch me up.

they killed me

aw man. good luck townies! i'm rooting for YOU

i'm sorry i cant contribute more, i really am sick. i read a few old games in hopes of getting a gleam into people's playstyle and it's been useful but im dying

were you town or scum on that romance of the three kingdoms, [mention]nijuukyugou[/mention]

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2017 12:26 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2017 12:07 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:19 am JoH was killed by the mafia. Thus:

MP is most likely town. If he were on a scumteam that was planning to kill Jack, he wouldn't have wasted a scumread on the guy. Rather, MP would have townread Jack and agreed with any wrong assumptions jack made until he died. I'm not even assuming optimal play here. MP wouldn't waste the time looking for a scumread on a guy he's going to kill.
Just to put forth an alternate opinion, since you seem very sure of this one: when I'm on a bad team, especially night 1, deciding on who to kill is usually something that happens after the lynch is done. If MP07 is bad, then I doubt that he crafted his posts around who was going to be killed night 1. I don't agree with your clearing of him, based on that.
Well, here's another way at looking at it: If MP is bad, he knows JoH is good. For him to suspect JoH like he did would mean he has some hope of making JoH look bad, I.E. making him a mislynch.
If MP thinks he can get JoH mislynched, why would he kill JoH?
I am leaving out some factors. Perhaps teammates drove the decision. Perhaps JoH shone so brightly on night 1 that MP gave up on the prospective shade-casting and just killed him. But I don't think so.

MP isn't cleared, for sure. But I'm not voting him today barring some change in circumstances.

linki: This isn't really an argument I'd shoot down with "but wifom, though." Scum isn't going to base their entire nightkill on some weird backward motive play based on the day's previous posts.

this is a exactly why MP seems town to me too. plus he's really been putting his balls out there. I think he's a very defensive player though, and takes being called scum when he's town as an attack. it's because he's put so much effort and emotion into it, and frustrates him even more. i've been there, i've been in games where i knew for a fact who a scum was and everyone else was pointing fingers at me so i started getting offended and rude to them, because JFC i'm doing everything a Townie should why can't you see that?!

so basically, that's the sort of effort and exasperation MP's posts are to me. Townie seal of approval from dunya.

you will notice i've moved jjj and diiny down my list, because I haven't had a chance to see new contributions of JJJ to new developments and I get wishy washy feelings towards diiny which I'll investigate further to make sure I haven't missed anything major.

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 5:28 pm
MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 5:06 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 11:49 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 11:41 pmHence part of my suspicion of MP and his accusations of LC falling flat.
As MP may or may not tell you, he actually defended me.

To avoid misinterpretation or whatever: I believe this is mild buddying.
Just to be clear: You believe what is mild buddying, what JOH is doing or what I am doing or something else?
Sorry, my friend, but I meant you. You like direct references, I've noticed, so I'll pull some instances up.

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 6:07 pm That said, I hesitate to scumread LC. I see your point, dunya, but I'm just not sure it means we're seeing scum!LC here.
Sometimes, when I'm trying to discern someone's motivations, I like to play a little game. I imagine the worst thing they could do, and then see if their actions support that conclusion. In this post, baddie MP applies nice mild buddying, while supporting the point that dunya made and was suspicious of. Further discussion of the topic also matches the profile of a baddie MP who, on one hand he kept the idea of my lynch in people's minds by discussing it a lot, and on the other hand he thought I was town and would say "RIP LC. I thought you were town."

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 6:18 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 6:15 pm To reiterate/clarify a point I made earlier: I don't think Jack was being serious about his desire to vote for me. His temptation to vote for me boiled down to a "That's racist, man!" joke. I read nothing into it. That it was then picked up, apparently, by speedchuck and Long Con is something worth pursuing in the absence of anything more substantial.

Linki x100: Stop posting so I can post!
I think I agree, but I simultaneously also hesitate to scum-read speedchuck or LC for doing something so brazen. Again this is anecdotal, but in my mind more often than not, most people who play scum roles try everything possible to get the spotlight off of them on Day 1, not put it on them. And what speedchuck and LC did was risky if they're scum.
Again: Agree, but also they're not maybe not scum. But it was brazen and risky.

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 6:23 pm MP POE Rainbow List #1 - Day 1
dunya
Jackofhearts2005
Simon
Sloonei

Bass_the_Clever
DFaraday
Diiny
Dom
DrWilgy
Elohcin
Long Con
JaggedJimmyJay
malakim2099
nijuukyugou
speedchuck

I won't vote for any of the four green players today.

I could theoretically vote for any of the grey, but I'm feeling hesitant about voting LC or speedchuck. I can't call them town reads but I'm not jumping to eliminate them either.
Again, that dual opinion. A lynch candidate, and a "but I'm hesitant". Do you see the theme here, MP? Do you think I would find more if I keep looking?

somehow, I have a feeling LC wants us to lynch MP. if we do, there's no way he could be scum attacking a player that's defending him right?
reverse psychology and all that.

Man I've been in games where one member of the scum team publicly named another member of his scum team and got him lynched to win the game. Merciless players, and the whole Littlefinger method doesn't help me see you in a better light LC

can we perhaps ask all players to post itt when they cast a vote or change their vote. I find it very useful and important to see the order and patterns of voting when catching scum. I feel very confused when I just see a tally up there.

That said, I have cast an initial vote on blooper

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 9:47 pm
MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 9:24 pm Dom is bad, folks. Let's lynch him please. He's flinging bullshit opinions he can't even back up.
lol

You can't summarize your thoughts onto LC into a single sentence. It's because it's a hodgepodge of bullshit that you're going around your ass to get to your elbow to create.

But sure. The person that you, earlier tonight, said was making good points is now bullshitting because they're challenging you.

both reactions from this exchange as someone neutral to both parties strikes me as frustrated townies going at each other. Can definitely understand dom's concerns, but I feel like MP reacted defensively out of frustration to not being able to get his point through (he really has written a lot about LC, and I daresay summarizing doesn't seem to be his forte

). I do think MP mirroring and basically calling dom scum because he called him scum first is defensive frustration, and exactly what scum team wants. let's not get tunnel vision and remember there's more than one target so as strongly as you think you feel about one person, don't waste ALL focus on that person.

This has leveled you both up as town reads to me, tbh. There's more to why I feel dom is town, which I'll get into separately.

leaning town
MovingPictures
sloonei
speedchuck
Elohcin
Simon
dom
JJJ
diiny

leaning scum
niju
malakim
Long Con

not sure...havent read any real posts from either user? inactive?:
DFaraday
DrWilgy

im so sorry for my lack of contribution today, but i have a migraine and high fever and have been sleeping it off and working from home when i could work. i will post more asap.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 5:12 pm Hey y'all,

Regrettably I have decided it is necessary for me to request replacement in this game. I expected to have some trouble with graduate school starting right now, but I can already tell that it's going to be worse than "some trouble". I doubt I'll be able to keep up with the thread consistently, and you'll be better off with someone who can. I need to focus on my work for the foreseeable future, and this is a distraction I can't have. That's no slight on the game or its players though. It'll be tougher yet when my heist begins.

This is the first time I have ever asked out of a game. I hate to do it. I appreciate the effort I have seen thus far though; maintain it through the finish. My parting advice is this: ensure you use every single nugget of evidence in this thread to your advantage, even if you think it seems small. Analyze dead baddies for their interactions. Cross reference claims and assertions against thread data within the ISOs. Analyze. Intuit. Play hard. Work together. I know these things sound obvious, but I can't count the number of times I have watched towns waste solving opportunities right in front of them. Replacement: do me proud, sir/ma'am -- I'm doing this with the expectation that you'll be better able to contribute than I.

Have fun everyone. Hopefully I can play again relatively soon.

are DrWilgy and DFaraday MIA?

@Spacedaisy

malakim2099 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 2:36 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 2:34 pm
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 2:33 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 2:12 pm My ats aren't red.
When you type the @ symbol before the name of the person you are mentioning, a drop down with their name will appear, you have to click their name in order to turn it into a mention.
@Spacedaisy

we don't get that
Actually, I'm not seeing it either.

your reputation precedes you...

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 2:33 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 2:12 pm My ats aren't red.
When you type the @ symbol before the name of the person you are mentioning, a drop down with their name will appear, you have to click their name in order to turn it into a mention.

@Spacedaisy

we don't get that

oh nevermind there's a fucking "isolate posts" button lmao. new forum, new things.

how can we check an individuals posts in the thread?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 1:57 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 12:59 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 8:26 am Dii is prob town, I think. Despite this next comment.

The push on LC to clarify why he didn't use OT green text to comment on sloonei is pretty much the silliest (to use a nice word) exchange I've ever seen. It made LC look better for no reason. I'm not going to read into the thing on LC much. LC's defense was good, but any townie or scummie can defend against a stupid argument. Hmph.

Tinfoil MP/LC scumteam, with all the buddying and false accusations between them. Just doesn't sit well with me.
...I'm confused.

Why did you vote for LC then?
At the time I voted for LC, I hadn't read the thread at all. I only voted him as a counterwagon to Bass so people would have a choice. Heck, at the time I didn't even know bass was a no-show.

well at least you're honest

@malakim2099 sorry, I should have realized you were talking about MP from pronouns, but it wouldn't be the first time someone confused me as a male on the internet.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 1:35 pm I took that as him putting a playfully intense emphasis on all his questions/demands for content. I could be wrong though.

oh. Has he done it before? That's a new one for me

malakim2099 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 1:39 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 1:04 pm I don't like this voting for someone who doesn't post. I'm not saying MP is scummy because he initiated it, I just think it sucks for all. can't no shows be replaced with other players?
I think this combined with his consumption of most of the day going round and round with LC makes him suspicious. To me at least.

Again, maybe the long-time players can correct me here, but it just seems fishy is all. I could easily be off base.

I didn't go round and round with LC? I voted for him and explained why the most out of everyone else I voted for him.

Everyone else went round and round, that isn't on me.

and what is wrong with asking inactive players to be possibly replaced rather than lynched by default because they are inactive?

Well, I'm getting town reads from JJJ so far

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 5:43 pm Oh sorry: WHY?

Jay asked three questions with bold, underlined, and italicized WHYs. My initial reaction is it's a character stipulation of some sort.
These sort of stipulations (if I am right) tend to be town-based.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 1:07 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 1:04 pm I don't like this voting for someone who doesn't post. I'm not saying MP is scummy because he initiated it, I just think it sucks for all. can't no shows be replaced with other players?
Have your thoughts on LC progressed at all since you left yesterday?

I felt he got rather defensive, in an agitated sort of way, especially with MP who for the most part was defending him. I'm not sure yet how I interpret that.

It's pretty exciting and challenging playing with brand new people who I have no idea how they usually react so I'm reading other people's interpretations of character and posts and relying a bit on the info I get here and there of what seems odd and unlike their usual meta, etc.

I get what LC said, but somehow I just don't buy it that he was talking out of character in some OT banter just yet so I'll keep an eye on him.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 1:04 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 12:57 pm
Dom wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 11:43 pm
Dom wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 11:20 pm
MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 6:27 pm
Diiny wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2017 8:22 pm gah no roleclaiming/outing really goes against my instincts

how have you found adapting, JJJ? iirc that's how the majority of games are played here
Does this post seem forced to anyone else?

I'm not necessarily scum-reading Diiny for it, but something is off. It just seems to me Diiny is struggling coming up with conversation, but it's striking to me that he singled out Jay only for this inquiry.
i doubt diiny has bstc
i meant dunya
confused y'all.
what is bstc and why do you doubt i have it?
Behind The Scenes Communication

His remark doesn't make sense to me, so did he really mean Diiny instead of dunya despite getting confused and saying he meant dunya instead of Diiny...since the convo was on Diiny?

I don't see the similarities in our names, tbh.

I don't like this voting for someone who doesn't post. I'm not saying MP is scummy because he initiated it, I just think it sucks for all. can't no shows be replaced with other players?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 8:26 am Dii is prob town, I think. Despite this next comment.

The push on LC to clarify why he didn't use OT green text to comment on sloonei is pretty much the silliest (to use a nice word) exchange I've ever seen. It made LC look better for no reason. I'm not going to read into the thing on LC much. LC's defense was good, but any townie or scummie can defend against a stupid argument. Hmph.

Tinfoil MP/LC scumteam, with all the buddying and false accusations between them. Just doesn't sit well with me.

...I'm confused.

Why did you vote for LC then?

Dom wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 11:43 pm
Dom wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 11:20 pm
MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 6:27 pm
Diiny wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2017 8:22 pm gah no roleclaiming/outing really goes against my instincts

how have you found adapting, JJJ? iirc that's how the majority of games are played here
Does this post seem forced to anyone else?

I'm not necessarily scum-reading Diiny for it, but something is off. It just seems to me Diiny is struggling coming up with conversation, but it's striking to me that he singled out Jay only for this inquiry.
i doubt diiny has bstc
i meant dunya
confused y'all.

what is bstc and why do you doubt i have it?

Hi Blooper!
I'll get the hang of nicknames soon enough

Good luck town! It's 12.40am in Sweden and Monday morning emplloyment awaits.

Same here MP!

All thanks to Jaybear for luring me back in

Who is Blooper?

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 6:18 pmI think I agree, but I simultaneously also hesitate to scum-read speedchuck or LC for doing something so brazen. Again this is anecdotal, but in my mind more often than not, most people who play scum roles try everything possible to get the spotlight off of them on Day 1, not put it on them. And what speedchuck and LC did was risky if they're scum.

Id say what JackofHearts did was risky--but light hearted for the reasons sloonei illustrated-- and even speedchuck is also safe imo. LC just kind of swept in there with a mildly supported agreement which could sway either way. He didn't put his foot down with full force the way speedchuck did, which is why I felt more uncomfortable by him.

I hope LC can come in and defend his post.

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 6:16 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 6:14 pm
MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 6:09 pm
Simon wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 6:00 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 5:43 pm
Simon wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 5:40 pm Hi everyone. I'm here.

My idea is that some people voted for their role instead of their favorite character.
Hey Simon!

Why do you think some people might have done that?
For example, mom doesn't know anything about Street Fighter. So why would she pick Cammy? When we were in the car talking about Halloween costumes, she said she didn't like the way Cammy was dressed because you can't wear that outfit during Halloween because it's cold. So that doesn't make any sense.

So that proves she is Cammy or a mafia bad guy who just picked somebody at random.
This logic seems genuine to me. GTH I doubt Simon is bad based on this post.
Since she doesnt know any character out of street fighter, yes, it's possible. I feel like we got outside info that shouldnt be allowed to influence iig.

Plus I was leaning towards someone else as Cammy tbh
To clarify: I'm not sure I buy Simon's argument, but I believe Simon buys his own argument.

You're already placing people into roles? Man.

oh ya, I got notes and everything. I'm going to be mind effed by the end of the game.

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 6:09 pm
Simon wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 6:00 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 5:43 pm
Simon wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 5:40 pm Hi everyone. I'm here.

My idea is that some people voted for their role instead of their favorite character.
Hey Simon!

Why do you think some people might have done that?
For example, mom doesn't know anything about Street Fighter. So why would she pick Cammy? When we were in the car talking about Halloween costumes, she said she didn't like the way Cammy was dressed because you can't wear that outfit during Halloween because it's cold. So that doesn't make any sense.

So that proves she is Cammy or a mafia bad guy who just picked somebody at random.
This logic seems genuine to me. GTH I doubt Simon is bad based on this post.

Since she doesnt know any character out of street fighter, yes, it's possible. I feel like we got outside info that shouldnt be allowed to influence iig.

Plus I was leaning towards someone else as Cammy tbh

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 6:07 pm That said, I hesitate to scumread LC. I see your point, dunya, but I'm just not sure it means we're seeing scum!LC here.

That's fine. Neither am I sure but day 1 vote has to go to someone and I'm not jumping on no easy bandwagon

My first time playing with you all so excuse the mistakes

Simon wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 6:00 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 5:43 pm
Simon wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 5:40 pm Hi everyone. I'm here.

My idea is that some people voted for their role instead of their favorite character.
Hey Simon!

Why do you think some people might have done that?
For example, mom doesn't know anything about Street Fighter. So why would she pick Cammy? When we were in the car talking about Halloween costumes, she said she didn't like the way Cammy was dressed because you can't wear that outfit during Halloween because it's cold. So that doesn't make any sense.

So that proves she is Cammy or a mafia bad guy who just picked somebody at random.

who is your mom?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 5:57 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 5:37 pm Sloonei, your responses to basic-tier poop flings of the Day 0/1 variety strike me as timidly playful. You answered them literally but did not attempt to explore the accusers themselves. WHY?
The poop itself seemed playful to me. The only thing in question was my perceptipn of a character in a video game I played as a child. I'll defend 8 year old Sloonei to the grave.

Speedchuck's vote was eye-catching, though. It looked as if he was just piggybacking off of a jab thrown by another player. I forgot speed games have 24 hour phases now and was gonna wait til later in the day to pressure him.

Re speedchuck. I got the impression it was an inside joke between you guys where you fooled him in the past. That's why I asked.

How do we know when a person voted. Is it in the order they appear. So JJJ casted the first sloonei vote then speedchuck?

I've put a tentative vote on Long Con.

I don't get negative feelings for JackofHearts. He comes across pretty open and laid back.

I didn't like Long Con's quick agreement though. It's like egging the very loosely based suspicion on. It just takes 2 people to agree on a target to start something against someone on day 1. And over what? An alien remark? I've played loads of themes I wasn't familiar with and have made illinformed comments of the same nature so I don't get why Sloonei comes across weird for just not being familiar with the theme.

It's almost midnight here and there's some people we haven't even heard from so this day was a bit short I guess.

I don't see what everyone else is seeing in Sloonei.

What did you see in sloonei Jay?

Thanks Jayster

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 5:11 pm I'm watching you Sloon. Always watching.

What's your deal? Got history with Sloon?

dunya wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 5:30 pm What's the new poll?

Just want to know if we're supposed to vote for ourselves as a sort of nameroll? I don't know how you guys mafia around these parts so apologies for any stupid questions that seem obvious.

Diiny wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 4:20 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 2:28 pm
MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 12:25 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2017 10:36 pm Sup Din and Dun. What's your story?

Tempted to vote Sloonei for the alien comment.

Do we think the day one poll did anything? Power up Ryu maybe?
I'm not convinced it did anything. Hard to say though.

Why exactly are you tempted to vote Sloonei?
For saying Dhalsim is an alien.

I guess I could say that pretending to not know a theme is scummy but really, it's that Dhalsim is just an Indian dude. Calling him an alien? Thas racist.
Why would it be within scum's interest to pretend not to know this game's theme?

especially in an open setup like this where no one can discuss characters/roles with relevance to the game...

What's the new poll?

Ken!???? People voted for Ken????

Ryu is boring tbh. Chun Li is where it's at!

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