The Syndicate

I'm very behind, wow.

On page 23 so I'll be back answering anything directed st me.

Apologies for missing the vote as well, I clonked out right after dinner last night

If you're going to talk about me at least have me involved in it. Or you can also look at the reply I made earlier to wilgy (I think, either him or sloonei) about that exact post that you guys quoted. I won't stand for being downplayed for trying my best to contribute. (Or at least that's how I'm precieving it)

@sloonei: well off the top of my head I can place Sloonei and JJJ in town with zebra following them. I don't have an opinion over either mac or Rico, and I don't think MP has done anything terrible outside of just being goofy. Other than that I haven't tried to deep think about anyone mostly due to the large amounts of text that appear between two people at a time. I'm essentially at "everyone is innocent until proven guilty" right now

@sloonei: it appears INH was sorta in the game, trying to put out some kind of content as to not look useless/lurker suspicious. But then you started poking at his logic with questions and he basically got more and more defensive (and frustrated) as it went on until he did that large post on page 16.) overall I think you should cut him some slack and back off the previous day stuff and ask his opinions on something else rather than frustrate him more. I can see your side of the argument about him just parroting, but it's not enough to convince anything short of thinking INH is null or slightly scummy at worst

@sloonei: I didn't forget your question, I just haven't willed myself around to doing it yet. At first glance inh is in a weird position to say the least. I'll try to do something decent tonight or something maybe idk.

Linki: I totally was just about to post this

We are currently in debate inception. Two people are "discussing" about their opinions of the actions of two other people who were arguing over eachother based off of something that happened awhile ago.

(But zeebs, I honestly have to go with JJJ on this whole spiel you two are having. Salty is much more believable than....well.....whatever point you're trying to make is.)

BUT ANYWAYS, THIS POST IS IRRELEVANT. MOVING ON

DrWilgy wrote:@Sloonei I gut read you as bad from me due to a feeling of dancing around the pizza last night. A forced non-grasping of the Rico situation. This is heavily dependent upon other's alignements though.

@Sprityo I gut read you due to your request of wishing to team with Mac following mine.

@Lorab, yes that is what I stated. Your point?

It was purely for jokes. I don't make teams in mafia. That's not how I roll. If someone wants to say they believe me to be town, so be it. But intentionally putting that comment out I would've assumed everyone would think as a joke. I mean, You meant it as a joke as well, right?

So as I had said, it looks "fishy" with fishy being synonymous to suspicious or any other word that would not be favorable to the person of question

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:sprityo, could you expand on this assertion you made relative to Epignosis on Night 1?

sprityo wrote:I mean, hopping off/on a wagon at best last moment is always fishy

Sloonei wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:The two people who came out of Day 1 looking worse for me are Elo and Epi, those two lovebirds.

Elo's Scotty vote and "self-preservation" was weird to me. Same thing with Epi's ultimately useless last second switcheroo where he jumped off of the Scotty train mere seconds before it crashed into a wall. I'd really like to see his explanation for his vote because right now it just rings as hollowly opportunistic.
Seconding Epi's response to this:
Epignosis wrote:What's the opportunity?
sprityo tried to help:
sprityo wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:The two people who came out of Day 1 looking worse for me are Elo and Epi, those two lovebirds.

Elo's Scotty vote and "self-preservation" was weird to me. Same thing with Epi's ultimately useless last second switcheroo where he jumped off of the Scotty train mere seconds before it crashed into a wall. I'd really like to see his explanation for his vote because right now it just rings as hollowly opportunistic.
What's the opportunity?
I think "opportunity" was the wrong word to use. I think a better word to describe it is, suspicious, or, coincidental.
sprityo wrote:I mean, hopping off/on a wagon at best last moment is always fishy
But I fail to see how Epi's "hopping off the bandwagon" is really fishy at all. He's moving his vote from the inevitable lynch wagon onto a player with no votes near the end of the day. That could be cause for suspicion in a completely different context, but this does not look anything like a player trying to distance themselves from the responsibility of a mislynch. There's no way to do that, and if this is Epi's attempt at such a maneuver (which I doubt is something he would do here anyway) then he did it in the least subtle way imaginable. This suspicion of Epi is what feels opportunistic to me.

So the thing JJJ quoted, it was more a comment I made, it really looks more of A stepping stone I was using to try and get prompts to talk more (which look where we are). But in the actual sense of things with what I was talking about. I was more talking about how if you jump on a wagon at the last second, you're either contributing to lynching a townie or in the case of lynching scum, possibly bussing your partner. So either output is not favorable and would draw suspicion. It's like wifom, where you never win.

"Hopping off" the wagon has a similar effect. You jump off a town lynch and it looks like you were trying to not look like you contributed to the lynch and were not in favor of it. And if you jump off a scum lynch it looks like you were trying to possibly save your buddy.

It's all hypothetical, but of course, possible situations. Perspectives.

DrWilgy wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:DrWilgy, do you have any other gut and/or vibe-based reads you would like to share?
The only other player that I have thought about is Sprityo, whom I gut read as bad.

I like your analysis of Rico. I'd like an answer from Rico as to why he thought to interject here. Not sure if this has been explained yet or not, but I'm not willing to go back and check.

Zebra, how would you respond to me voting Rico right now?

Sloonei, mind telling me the exchange that interested you most?

Explain if you would kindly

sprityo wrote:I mean, hopping off/on a wagon at best [the] last moment is always fishy

Phone please stop messing up my sentences

I mean, hopping off/on a wagon at best last moment is always fishy

Epignosis wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:The two people who came out of Day 1 looking worse for me are Elo and Epi, those two lovebirds.

Elo's Scotty vote and "self-preservation" was weird to me. Same thing with Epi's ultimately useless last second switcheroo where he jumped off of the Scotty train mere seconds before it crashed into a wall. I'd really like to see his explanation for his vote because right now it just rings as hollowly opportunistic.
What's the opportunity?

I think "opportunity" was the wrong word to use. I think a better word to describe it is, suspicious, or, coincidental.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Elohcin wrote:Now, as for my vote today (Day 1 ) I can see where scotty can be bad. I am moving my vote there. I don't want to vote BWT if I don't have to. Hate to lose a possible civ position even if it's a quiet one.
Elohcin's vote was also vaguely explained, and tacked onto an awkward backtrack defense of BWT (her previous vote).

im not sure about anyone else, but the yellow part alone looks.... not the best? i mean, at least personally, i wouldve rather had scotty and his lurker suspicion over someone who i cant talk to or get information from. at least at the current point in time

DrWilgy wrote:Yo Mac, wanna team up?

No, Mac. Team up with me. I actually have a doctors license.

I made it myself

MovingPictures07 wrote:
motel room wrote:I severely overestimated the time I would have for this.
Well, it has been a relatively talkative game. Where are you at in the thread?

Procrastination is like 10x worse in mafia here as opposed to elsewhere. Especially in these bigger games because we can have upwards of 5+ pages per 24 hours to read and maybe analyze. (You guys are really active as a community in general)

a2thezebra wrote:
Spoiler: show
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Neil Hartley is a man of action. I'm going to let you all know how I feel, because feeling it everything in my line of work baby. Don't you worry about the exact order, just look at the tiers.

Spoiler: show
Dom
S~V~S

Epignosis
insertnamehere
MacDougall
LoRab
Ricochet
Sloonei

birdwithteeth11
DrWilgy
sanmateo

a2thezebra
Glorfindel
motel room
MovingPictures07
Scotty
sprityo

Elohcin

Spoiler: show
I'd like to know why I'm not a prettier color, pretty please.

MacDougall wrote:
Ricochet wrote:
MacDougall wrote:My job in that game as selected by dice roll was to kill people not in my faction and survive. Killing you was my right and duty.

In this game assuming you are a civ your job is to find bad guys and lynch them. Something you are utterly failing at right now both literally and figuratively.
My God, it's as if policy lynch is an alien concept to you.

there's no hunting in it

there's just the desire to remove the threat of you being bad again and activate your purging once more
Actually it's just that your idea of a policy lynch is dumb even excluding that I am your target.
Mic drop.

To summarize, the bulk of the Rico-Mac war (as entertaining as it is) didn't captivate me very much because I got both a gut baddie read of Rico and a gut civilian read of Mac well before the conflict reached its peak. In spite of the first post I quoted, after fully catching up I feel good about MP overall. Other civ reads include SVS, insertnamehere (nice still from Fire Walk With Me by the way), Elohcin, Neil/JJJ, and Sloonei. My only baddie reads as of right now are Rico and to a lesser extent Scotty, though mainly because there's less to go on with Scotty then there is with Rico. Anyone I haven't mentioned in this paragraph I don't have a confident enough read to say. Yet.

So I'm getting quite a bit more civ reads than usual this early in the game which is nice on the one hand, but on the other hand it makes me a little paranoid that the wool is being pulled over my eyes. I look forward to seeing how things unravel in the coming phases.

Cheers folks, I'll be back in twelve hours or so.

(I managed to mess up the formatting but its zebras post)

My views go along the lines of what zebra is getting at here. I personally don't care for the whole thing/pissing contest of Mac and rico, in fact this is the only thing I'll say on the matter. I don't want to be asked questions over it or have any opinion on it mostly because I feel it's just filler for day 1. I have no care for how someone acts prievously. You can do whatever you want from game to game. Neil Hartley is a great example

Little opinion done with. On the topic of JJJ, I would honestly be more comfortable if he dropped the whole Neil thing cause when he is just being himself, I like his input a good deal.

I'm, that's all I got for now, I'll have to get back to you guys tonight after chow

MovingPictures07 wrote:Changing my vote to sprityo. Let's hear more from you!

Working on it right now boss man. I'll post it when I get a break from class

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
sprityo wrote:reading this, it amazes me you all have things to say to eachother, that are never 100% the same, from game to game. Mafia is a strange game indeed.

but uh, ill move my vote to Neil Hardy. i dont trust a man who isnt himself
I don't know who the hell Neil Hardy is, but you can be sure he's not on my stage! Let me tell you something, Straight from the Heart *wink*, this audience has no room for people who don't even know who they came to see.

I Hartley know who you are

sprityo wrote:reading this, it amazes me you all have things to say to eachother, that are never 100% the same, from game to game. Mafia is a strange game indeed.

but uh, ill move my vote to Neil Hardy. i dont trust a man who isnt himself

(TF2 clip, blood warning)

Spoiler: show

reading this, it amazes me you all have things to say to eachother, that are never 100% the same, from game to game. Mafia is a strange game indeed.

but uh, ill move my vote to Neil Hardy. i dont trust a man who isnt himself

Scotty wrote:Suspicious of Glorf for voting in the poll but not commenting.

Glorfindel? More like Skaglorfindel.

that joke was so awful, im voting just because of that

I didnt fall asleep before 9 pm. I swear.

Hello all! It's good to see you again

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