The Syndicate

ObscureAllure wrote:That's because SVS is a bad ass. Don't think anyone else could have done Cavil better. :high five:

I agree.

S~V~S wrote:And I was a baddie opportunistically benefiting from someone elses misfortune

As baddies often do.

Your tone in BTSC crept me out so much lol. I felt pressured, didn't know if I should lie or go straight to the truth. Lying didn't work out after all though

Well played everyone! I am so happy I was revived to take part in the endgame.

Looks like the baddies had a hard time anyway, being such a small and complicated group with lots of uncertainty. But I guess that was the same for town too.

SVS

Great game Golden. Very interesting setup with lots of possibilities.

I can totally see Cavil having some sort of ability. I hope he stays dead if we lynch him.

I just feel like these few days has been rather good - we lynched two baddies in a row and are not as pressured as before by the ambiguity of the f5 and all that(unless you doubt me and Juliets... Though I can't speak for Juliets obviously) so I think the time is right.

Im voting John Cavil today. It will give us some more time to find the rest of the baddies too, as we are nowhere near a common suspect. Lots of people being debated on, I say we try lynching Cavil and spend some more cycles searching for the other baddies.

Vote John Cavil

DrWilgy wrote:So say we all.

Nerolunar wrote:Black Rock died. Weird choice, I was convinced one of the more vocal players would kick the bucket.

Who benefits from killing Black Rock at this point?

A baddie who wants to keep the tempo the same.

Hmm...
What are the chances we haven't been lynching baddies the past few days?

But this tempo has resulted in the death of two baddies. With this way of going about things I am surprised they didn't take out a universal civ read. I don't know what people thought of Black Rock, but there are certainly players who have contributed more to the civ cause that they did not target.

It's bugging me more than it should.

DrWilgy wrote:So say we all.

Nerolunar wrote:Black Rock died. Weird choice, I was convinced one of the more vocal players would kick the bucket.

Who benefits from killing Black Rock at this point?

A baddie who wants to keep the tempo the same.

Hmm...
What are the chances we haven't been lynching baddies the past few days?

I think Dex and Daisy were baddies.

I'm not against lynching Cavil though, I think the time is right.

Black Rock died. Weird choice, I was convinced one of the more vocal players would kick the bucket.

Who benefits from killing Black Rock at this point?

Putting Cavil in the brig now.

Putting a revealed Cavil in the brig is the easiest thing to do. Weird civ cred you are giving me, G-man.

Speaking of the brig, do I just go with Cavil yet again? I'm waiting a bit to do it to avoid confusion, so speak up if you have thoughts regarding this.

Cavil might have planted that post on purpose. We will never know.

After our recent success getting a few baddies down, I am up for lynching Cavil next day phase.

Epignosis wrote:

Nerolunar wrote:I'm going to bed now( as usual at this time in the holidays. Oh well.) and I will be voting for -

Wilgy

I can't see that there should be more room for civ cylons in the original pool of baddies, so I'm going with this vote. I don't know the show apart from what has been discussed anyways, so I am not going to trust in people's interpretation of Caprica Six and Leoben.

"The original pool of baddies."

I don't even know what that means.

Its the baddies that are not F5

Matt wrote:Crazy Theory # 284

Nero is bad and silenced Daisy today.

Gaaawd if Daisy is lynched and flips bad this is not going to be a good look for me, but I've been bad with Daisy before, and she's not the "let's avoid the thread" type in my opinion.

I knew someone was going to doubt me on this. Let me just say that I am trying to be as transparent as possible with my ability usage.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I demand GTH reads immediately from everyone on Matt.

I'm not sharing mine until I have yours. Life isn't fair.

I think Matt is good.

I should have silenced Spacedaisy. She has not been here and will probably swoop in for a vote Cavil is up next day for a time in the brig.

Good night everyone.

I'm going to bed now( as usual at this time in the holidays. Oh well.) and I will be voting for -

Wilgy

I can't see that there should be more room for civ cylons in the original pool of baddies, so I'm going with this vote. I don't know the show apart from what has been discussed anyways, so I am not going to trust in people's interpretation of Caprica Six and Leoben.

It is weird, but would a baddie really bus at this point? It's risky.

Do the baddies even know which of the F5 are their teammates? They might not even have BTSC.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Nerolunar wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Nerolunar wrote:Posting urgently from my phone.

I dont have btsc with anyone. Not even juliets. Its just reads.

Soooo dont place too much stock in my statements in regards to that. See you later.

What made you suspect that there is a 2:2 split among the resurrectees?

An educated guess based on what would be fair design. I can't imagine 3 baddies revived + the already fairly large number of original baddies would be fair, so a split seems reasonable to me.

I agree 3 baddies to 1 townie would seem unbalanced. But why not guess 1 baddie to 3 townies? If I had no information at all, that would be my guess. Not 2:2.

Nerolunar wrote:Can someone break down the whole Wilgy thing for me? Did he evoke the amnesty act/avoided lynch? What happened?

Why do people think OA is suspicious?

I can provide links to my own perspectives.

OA interactions with S~V~S

DrWilgy interactions with S~V~S

Dex's handling of his defense of DrWilgy pre- and post-resurrection

I'm not sure they make as much sense as team mates, but I think the suspicions hold individually.

Okay, thank you.

3:1 would also be alright I guess, although it would be weird to cease all f5 baddie hunting right now.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Nerolunar wrote:Posting urgently from my phone.

I dont have btsc with anyone. Not even juliets. Its just reads.

Soooo dont place too much stock in my statements in regards to that. See you later.

What made you suspect that there is a 2:2 split among the resurrectees?

An educated guess based on what would be fair design. I can't imagine 3 baddies revived + the already fairly large number of original baddies would be fair, so a split seems reasonable to me.

Can someone break down the whole Wilgy thing for me? Did he evoke the amnesty act/avoided lynch? What happened?

Why do people think OA is suspicious?

Posting urgently from my phone.

I dont have btsc with anyone. Not even juliets. Its just reads.

Soooo dont place too much stock in my statements in regards to that. See you later.

I cancelled my night action.

I am also leaving to take part in a baptism(yay family time I guess) and I will see if I can make it here by the end of Sunday, which should also be EOD. I have chosen not to silence anyone - Dex was my biggest subject and I'm still going back and forth on Epi. I guess I could silence Daisy, but in the event that she is civ it would not be all that great. To be honest I am alright with giving the opportunity for everyone to offer input, regardless of alignment. We might catch someone red handed in the process.

See ya'll later!

Matt wrote:
@NERO

When you return, even if I'm silenced, I want you to discuss your interpretation of Dex's first post on Day 10 where he suggested lynching his evil cohort would be a waste of time.

Linki - I already sent in my night action Next time I'm going to wait before sending it in. Doing it prematurely like this was a bad idea, I'm sorry.
Thanks.

Wait, that last linki was supposed to be out of the quotation box.

Linki - I already sent in my night action Next time I'm going to wait before sending it in. Doing it prematurely like this was a bad idea, I'm sorry.
Thanks.

Matt wrote:Nero do you think I'm civ or a baddie? For real now. Are you purposely going to use your power on a civvie? This is ridic!

Lol I'm sad and laughing about this at the same time.

I don't know... Haven't really considered you up until now. You seem civ.

However, I'm not against using my power to condemn discourses I don't agree with. I silenced Ika day one because he kept screaming "KILL ALL CYLONS" even though I was leaning civ on him. Btw I read Silverwolf got mad too about that - Can't even remember why I silenced her though... Ugh. It just wasn't personal, thats for sure. I would never do that.

Matt wrote:@NERO

When you return, even if I'm silenced, I want you to discuss your interpretation of Dex's first post on Day 10 where he suggested lynching his evil cohort would be a waste of time.

Linki - I already sent in my night action Next time I'm going to wait before sending it in. Doing it prematurely like this was a bad idea, I'm sorry.
Thanks.

Hmm. I looked at it.

You might be right. However, I'm not sure it is a good idea to even kill him. Like, he is not going to be of much disturbance anyways - we can work around his vote if need be. The only reason I'm worried if is he has night actions or other powers/benefits that he might use against us. We don't know if he has anything. I am more interested in going after the "real" baddies right now. We can lynch Cavil later imo.

This makes me look like I'm defending Cavil which is not the case. I just want to continue scumhunting for a little while longer.

Matt wrote:

Nerolunar wrote:I'm sending Matt to the brig. Sorry, but we should not vote Cavil tomorrow and I don't want you to start a wagon on him again. Lets find the other baddies first.

For real?

Lol okey dokey.

Town - I invite you again to look at Dex's first post on Day 10 where he agreed that lynching Cavil is a waste of time and how we should instead investigate a group of four that included him.

Dex certainly did not want us lynching Cavil so yeah let's go with that.

Spill your guts now because I already sent in my night action

I'm sending Matt to the brig. Sorry, but we should not vote Cavil tomorrow and I don't want you to start a wagon on him again. Lets find the other baddies first.

Okay, so who do I send to the brig today?

Any ideas?

Thank god we don't need to number posts anymore. And we got yet another evil player! Good job.

That was post #3, this is post 4#. Mess.

I believe Dex is bad, Epig.

I need to vote because I'm going to bed. I'm still leaning bad on you Epig but the point you are raising against Dex looks reasonable. Makes me wonder if Glorfindel really was bad/seemer. Out of the other F5 I like Juliets way more than Daisy.

Vote Dex

Matt wrote:Hey peeps.

So I was called in early today, and have to vote now.

This may not be popular but I'm going to

Vote John Cavil

I was planning on looking through SVS' posts yesterday but never got to it, and I'm not very confident in anyone else right now.

Though I wouldn't object to either a Oa or Polo lynch haha.

... Really?

Who are your other suspects?

2#

So say we all. #1

Nobody got killed, that's great.

My biggest suspicions are:

Epignosis (JJJ, in regards to your assesment I think the two Sharons are dual from a game perspective too)

Dex

If Dr.Wilgy is a cylon too, I guess I suspect him too. I doubt there is any more room for good cylons in the original group.

I'm logging off for tonight.

Wish me luck on my exam!

Eh, Im doing it. I doubt Cavil is going to contribute much to the discussion anyway. Lets see if it works.

#3

Polo wrote:Post #8

Nerolunar, can you send Cavil off to the brig?

I don't know, should I try?

2#

#1

Exam entering the final phases...Almost. I hate physics so much

I don't want to miss my night action, so who do you guys think would be a good person to send off to the brig? Assuming my power still works, but it's worth a shot.

And to explain my statement before that literally all of you misunderstood: I meant that I believe 2 of the f5 are aligned with Cavil and not independent. Not all of us, obviously. I took it as being implicit in the statement but I'm sorry if I wasn't clear about it.

And we actually got Cavil which is great! I still think Epignosis is bad though.

Do you think Cavil will be allowed to vote?

Forgot to mark my last post. This is #5.

I am going to prepare a big exam tomorrow so voting now.

Epignosis

Not sure I will be able to check in for some time so state your questions and I will adress them upon my next read through.

Hmmm, I don't see how that statement is a slip in any way. I just don't think the evil final fives are independent, as someone proposed.

Being f5 doesn't really change much for me in regards to my place in this game, and I have known I was f5 ever since my death. Almost 2 weeks have passed since then so the surprise of it is long gone.

DrumBeats wrote:Post #2
Nero, can you please identify your wills for us?

I only made one will because I forgot to make a second. It was something like " I am alive, kill Cavil asap. Im not following the thread so I have no reads." Paraphrasing.

DrumBeats wrote:#3

Dex wrote:#5

DrumBeats wrote:I do not think I am comfortable with believing that both Wilgy and Epig are civ after the Glorf flip. Dex, what do you think in that regard? .

I am comfortable with that. What makes you uncomfortable?

Numbers. One more question, and this applies to all four final five revived people, how many of the final five do you believe are likely Cavil-aligned? Just take a guess

I think it's 2/2, and I also believe the last final five has yet to die. The Final five are definitely aligned with Cavil and not independent I think.

Dex wrote:#4

In which case, I'm back to defending Epi, based on lore. Athena was never mafia.

I think Dex is aligned with Cavil and Athena/Epi. Given the events with Glorfindel/Boomer and us labeling Boomer as evil due to the lore barely leaves option for Epi to be civ. I just can't see him be, the two Sharons are dual and cannot be civ together. Using lore as an argument yet again seems bold but still something I could see mafia doing.

3#

So say we all!

Let me get back in touch.

I would be alright if we were to agree on a person that I should send to the brig, if it could assist in proving my own innocence or whatever works best for the civs.

I believe some of the final five are evil - Im not sure who though. I am fine with Epignosis being the lynch today, as it would simply not make sense for him to be civ if Boomer was too. Golden ain't like that, right?

This new rule sucks.

2#

Okay I have barely followed the thread so Im a little lost. I know my own alignment though, and I can assure you that I am still civ. Believe me for once

Oh, I would. Hence my read on Glorfindel. But tone plays a part here too. Im just not reading him exclusively based on EOD2.

Im currently reading Sig, Sokoth and Glorfindel as bad too. Im just not willing to base my reads on just one event. I hope you can understand my mindset.

I have been pinged by IAWY/Wilgy ever since his first post where I did NO U him pretty hard though. He is a prime suspect of mine, and I intend to get him lynched. He wasn´t involved that much at EOD2 but I don´t think it´s important that the person we lynch was that A suspect is a suspect, and I don´t think we necessarily have to lynch someone based solely on one in-thread event.

Ricochet wrote:

Nerolunar wrote:Time to vote. Lingering suspicion from IAWY and lurking but not contributing makes me want to vote for Dr.Wilgy. I did this last night despite forgetting it was an extended night

Vote DrWilgy

What does "time to vote" mean? We have seven hours left. Also, speaking of not contributing, you have made three posts on this Day.

Just time for me. I felt like voting now.

Despite my low post count, I have still yet to see Wilgy read anyone or try to get some ground in this game. I feel like he is flying low on purpose, and I expect a replacement player to start questioning and engaging in discussion. I think its weird for a replacement to enter a game and then do practically nothing.

Time to vote. Lingering suspicion from IAWY and lurking but not contributing makes me want to vote for Dr.Wilgy. I did this last night despite forgetting it was an extended night

Vote DrWilgy

Long Con wrote:As the resident Confirmed Civ, I still think sig is bad. Rico, sig, JJJ... all bad.

I might have missed it, but how do we know that you are confimed civ?

@JJJ

Nutellas tone sounded genuine and like a cornered civ to me. Her thoughts reminded me of how I sometimes feel when Im cornered as a civ. It resonated with me and I got fooled In my head, she was an easy target for either misguided civs or cylons to pursue as she was already kind-of scrambling and barely any of her rebuttals gained her any ground. But oh well, she was bad in the end and I was wrong.

SokothQultuq wrote:This is starting to spiral.... quickly.

Baddie vibes.

I feel like Sokoth is using lots of words to say very little(not the quoted post though). Light scumread on him.

sig wrote:Nero we're still in the night phase. It's lasting 48 hours this time. :P

Omfg. Oh well, FoS on Wilgy then.

I gotta go. Im sorry about this, you guys can follow up on it or not, Im not going to pass up on a vote even if its sorta impulsive.

Vote DrWilgy

EBWOP

I had already written that last sentence above and forgot to erase the remnants of the old one. Oh well.