The Syndicate

Boquise wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 4:49 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 4:39 pm

Boquise wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 4:34 pm

Moonwink wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 1:02 pm [VOTE: Boquise] aubergine
I can't believe he hasn't posted anything more than a hello yet! D:

I vehemently disagree with this mindset. We absolutely do not need to, nor should we, "lynch for information" on Day 1. We should all collectively vote for the player we feel is most likely to net us a mafia member. That Moonwink is defaulting to an info-lynch posture so early in the phase is Bad Look #3 or 4 in the early stages of my catch up. The others were in big quotes which were unwieldy to quote. I'll probably go into more detail later.

Wait what. Voting you for saying nothing is literally the opposite of an "info-chop"

"Day 1 rarely catches scum" is not a true statement where I come from.

D1 mafia chop is a town loss is a saying from where I come from wowee

Yeah, Boq's posts seems like he's suddenly talking about something else when responding to things. But it's kind of amusing.

I know I've bitched and moaned already, but I'm a bit disappointed that the activity level has been so incredibly low for D1. One of the greater points of D1 is to have content to look back on.

But if we just chop mafia, it's all good. So we can do that.

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:25 pm part of me prefers 10~ pages compared to 70 pages, though around 30 would’ve been nice

Same.

Are you able to articulate your thoughts on TH at all?

New reads, who dis

Town: Daisy, Bow, Lucy

Don't know: Everyone else

Dolby wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:32 pm hey Dizzy

1. has that kill gone through yet ?
2. when is the deadline for it?
3. is ricochet still around?

Do you have suggestions? He'll be around

Dolby wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:35 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:33 pm

Dolby wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:32 pm hey Dizzy

1. has that kill gone through yet ?
2. when is the deadline for it?
3. is ricochet still around?

Do you have suggestions? He'll be around

still in catchup mode. don't really have suggestions for who rather as much as who not but we do match to an extent anyway. would argue towards one of the three wagons just on a basis of them having votes, though i don't see any of the three as having mutual exclusivity towards each other

Thanks. It was a lite anyway. We don't have a shot.

@TripleHaven Is the reason you never commented on who to shoot that you and Rico are mafia, so you knew it was bs anyway?

I have a hood with Rico, and he was committed to the vig bluff and asked people about it. So that's something I guess.

Sloonei taking over Boq's body confirmed tbh

Also lol Boq reading themselves as moderately strong town is my favourite thing so far in this game

Boquise wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:39 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:23 pm I know I've bitched and moaned already, but I'm a bit disappointed that the activity level has been so incredibly low for D1. One of the greater points of D1 is to have content to look back on.

But if we just chop mafia, it's all good. So we can do that.

You read as very authentic to me, and none of the points that people raised against you resonated at all with me. I appreciate how direct you are in your posts, and gives you an air of transparency.

I don't really have one set thing that I look for. I try to be inquisitive, and if I feel like I can see a sincere thought process in a person's efforts to solve the game then I will be inclined to read them as town. If they don't, then I won't.

Fair.

But um, why are you having a read on yourself in your read list? Did you mean to say Tony or something?

Dolby wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:41 pm I'd lean pretty strongly towards Dizzy and Ricochet not being teammed at the very least.

Do want to question why the outting happened exactly after my take bc I don't think I'm the last person expected in the thread but I still haven't read two full pages so I might be.

Because I'd rather have all the information be true as we approach EoD, so that people don't vote based on "we can just shoot this person anyway". Plus, I really should sleep right this second, and am planning to be strict with myself and go to bad before EoD.

Thank you for the input, Boq. I'm very unsure on who my vote will end up on. I'm waiting for Lucy to express their thoughts on TH and see if they resonate with me. I'm also paying attention to both yours and Dolby's thoughts on Rico, coupled with my own. There's other votes I could do, but they would feel like a crap shoot.

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:48 pm it’ll take a bit, i can’t find my shoes and i have to ride my bike and stuff

Take care of your self and your life. This is just a game, and not that important anyway. Not that life is important.

Also, I kind of love the fact that you can't find your shoes, though it might be stressful to you. o.o

I really need to go to bed before EoD for once. I'm keeping my vote on TH, without being very confident on it. Just little things like being her focusing in on how I read her, a slight feeling she assumes me town, and Lucy having a gut feeling about her when having recently been on a mafia team with her. I'm not opposed to a different chop either. Don't really prefer Moon, but not a strong read.

Gl gl

Wait, there was a lot of posts in between here

Yeah, ok. Maybe not TH lol

Wow, wouldn't it be wild if Dolby/Martin was teamed wow

Epi probably town tbh

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 6:28 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 4:33 pm

Moonwink wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 10:37 pmWith that kind of talk, Martin's gonna become the most likely nightkill N1 instead of Dizzy if he's town!

Also,
[VOTE: Dolby] aubergine

Are you trying to get me killed because you don't want to solve me or what?

This response can only exist if Dyslexicon knows Moonwink isn't mafia.

Gurl, no. Everyone talks to everyone "as if they are town" all the time. This is not a thing.

I have no idea where to vote. So that's cool.

[VOTE: Dolby] aubergine

TripleHaven wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:58 pm have minimal wim, yall do whatever you want just reeval later

Or wait. Is this post weird?

"Just reevaluate later"

If TH is about to flip town, wouldn't that just make the reevaluation moot? Like, we'd already be reevaluating, because we'd already know we were wrong.

So the statement isn't genuine. It's like "Remember to reevaluate me when I've flipped town guiseee".

Maybe I'm reading too much into it. But it does seem kind of phoney. I think I like this.

[VOTE: TripleHaven] aubergine

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 6:36 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:18 pm
Also, this is probably a good time to mention that me and Rico lied about winning a vig shot. Our prize was different. I kind of wanted to do at least something, but the game is so dead, it didn't create much drama. If Rico flips mafia at some point, it might be interesting, considering mafia would already know we lied about it. But it probably wasn't hard to figure out we lied anyway. But in any case, day should probably not end with false information on the board.

How did the two of you coordinate this fabrication?

We won communication with each other when we won the event.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 6:35 pm

TripleHaven wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:58 pm have minimal wim, yall do whatever you want just reeval later

Or wait. Is this post weird?

"Just reevaluate later"

If TH is about to flip town, wouldn't that just make the reevaluation moot? Like, we'd already be reevaluating, because we'd already know we were wrong.

So the statement isn't genuine. It's like "Remember to reevaluate me when I've flipped town guiseee".

Maybe I'm reading too much into it. But it does seem kind of phoney. I think I like this.

[VOTE: TripleHaven] aubergine

@lucy @Jackofhearts2005 @Dolby @Epignosis Whoever is around. Does this make sense?

Dolby wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 6:39 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 6:38 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 6:35 pm

TripleHaven wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:58 pm have minimal wim, yall do whatever you want just reeval later

Or wait. Is this post weird?

"Just reevaluate later"

If TH is about to flip town, wouldn't that just make the reevaluation moot? Like, we'd already be reevaluating, because we'd already know we were wrong.

So the statement isn't genuine. It's like "Remember to reevaluate me when I've flipped town guiseee".

Maybe I'm reading too much into it. But it does seem kind of phoney. I think I like this.

[VOTE: TripleHaven] aubergine

@lucy @Jackofhearts2005 @Dolby @Epignosis Whoever is around. Does this make sense?

this seems like a pretty empty post that comes from both alignments a lot of the time.

people get exhausted for reasons and that's that

I guess, yeah. It's empty, which is kind of what I realised. It's meaningless to ask us to reevaluate if the thought is "ok, whatever, I'll flip town".

But it being a meaningless post doesn't mean it can't come from town I guess.

I could always vote Ruri and just be like big shrug face. But that gives us basically nothing if they are town.

I'm not so sure Martin is town anymore. And my psychic senses are telling me Martin and Dolby is a team so

Dolby wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 6:43 pm i probably will end up voting TH

What would be the reasoning?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 6:44 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 6:42 pm I could always vote Ruri and just be like big shrug face. But that gives us basically nothing if they are town.

What do we get more out of another townyeet at this stage of the game? Am I missing something lol?

I mean sure. I'm already at the point of "Why did I ever even play this game lol". The more mafia I play, the harder it gets

[VOTE: Ruri] aubergine

Dolby wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 6:47 pmtf is this

Exactly what it looks like

CRINGE

Jack, you would probably town read me even if I was mafia. Just saying

I wish I knew more about Rico's overall personality. I've found him pretty distant and emotionally on a tight leash, and not very curious, despite asking a ton of questions and doing a lot of analysis. So I don't know if it's just how he comes across. Don't know if this makes sense

Ricochet wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 6:51 pm Ruri wagon feels like throwing D1 down the drain to me, there is no info or reads on them besides the very three people pushing it.

Dizzy is all over and has resorted to lynch inactive out of all avenues.
Jack strikes me ever since that tie comment as either confused or possibly stirring chaos.

But then I kind of agree with this comment lol

Dolby/Ruri unlikely teamed imo. I don't think he sticks his neck out being all "this is bad" if they are teamed.

If TH was mafia, mafia would probably tell her to vote in the poll as well

This reads sucks, but hey

Also, we can't have a tie.

TH probs town. But ok. Sorry, TH

Dolby/Martin/Violet tbh tbh

I'm gay gl gl

TripleHaven wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 7:00 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 6:59 pm TH probs town. But ok. Sorry, TH

Dolby/Martin/Violet tbh tbh

you're LITERALLY the deciding vote

Welcome to my world sorry

peepeepoopoo

im still gay

Thank god for Jackofmyheart

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 9:14 pm I did not submit an action successfully whoops

Did anything else happen to you at night?

Boquise wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 1:20 am I would expect mafia members to be more eager to come out strong and make a lasting impression on Day 1 in this particular game.

Maybe not all the mafia members. But certainly one or two.

Wouldn't that just entirely depend on who the mafia are? Different people have different play styles.

Or let me ask another way: What makes you think this in particular?

lucy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 2:49 am @ilario what's your stance on twinks?

I can't believe that you haven't asked me about this. I have many years of experience.

lucy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 9:53 am chet what’s ur read on me/dizzzy/boq

How is your scum lean on me coming along?

Moonwink wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 1:08 pm@Dyslexicon Are you lowposting now because of me? :3

No. I've been at work all day. There was a thing.
Anyway, planned to not post a lot today and just do my necessary part, because I'm personally just not very motivated. Doesn't mean I can't have a good time. I am, however, a little bit more motivated by seeing a mafia flip.

Moonwink wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 1:16 pmI mean, do you think a VIG would have shot Martin last night even though Martin was townread by practically EVERYONE in the game? I mean, I get that sometime people go rogue and make crazy shots that go against what town thinks, but I don't get the vibe that we've got anyone like that in this game! :3

@Epignosis You talked about my TripleHaven vote. I didn't know who to vote. Nothing felt good with no information. Felt it in my bones that I was wrong in the end and said so much. Kind of hate it. That's kind of how it's been for me the last games, and why I breaked from mafia. Feels like all of it is just guesswork, mostly.

I take umbrage with "blaming" people who voted for a mischop. Especially on D1. Depending on if any mafia was actually in danger at all, there's no pattern in there being lots of mafia just piling on a town about to go over for fun. They don't like to get caught red handed. It all depends of course. And looking into all votes is good and fine.

Going through Dolby's ISO.
It's probably a lot of "looks slightly good for this person" or "looks not good for this person". But that's all meh, and could easily be wrong. But I do have the thoughts and maybe I'll say something about that later.

One thing that sticks out to me is how serious and relatively much space Dolby used to talk and ask about me and Rico's fake kill. It looks to me like he really wanted to give the impression that he bought it and believed it. I think it fits Dolby's player style and make sure to show that like this in the specific case that he is mafia with Rico and already know that it is fake.

Dolby wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:32 pm hey Dizzy

1. has that kill gone through yet ?
2. when is the deadline for it?
3. is ricochet still around?

Dolby wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:35 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:33 pm

Dolby wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:32 pm hey Dizzy

1. has that kill gone through yet ?
2. when is the deadline for it?
3. is ricochet still around?

Do you have suggestions? He'll be around

still in catchup mode. don't really have suggestions for who rather as much as who not but we do match to an extent anyway. would argue towards one of the three wagons just on a basis of them having votes, though i don't see any of the three as having mutual exclusivity towards each other

Dolby wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:36 pm i want to create some game theory tables but i don't know how long mapping would take or what considerations i should have in a dual control kill setup

Dolby wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 6:07 pm tbh it's hard for me to break out of the two yeet mentality that i set within myself 30 minutes ago

Couple this with Dolby being critical about Rico's posts, but never pushing there.
Rico's mention of Dolby also doesn't hit me right in the gut. Especially early on when he says Dolby is "boasting" and asks if low-posting is normal for him. Characterising others as "boasting" is kind of a negative jab that usually you are less willing to throw around if you don't know another player and you don't know their alignment, while that kind of talk is more normal among mafia teammates in my experience.

And I just have a bad gut feeling about Rico. That's all.

For my own sanity, although it should be obvious, this may all be wrong. But that's where my head is right now.

I probably have other thoughts, but I'll wait.

[VOTE: Ricochet] aubergine

Boquise wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 3:40 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 3:27 pm

Boquise wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 1:20 am I would expect mafia members to be more eager to come out strong and make a lasting impression on Day 1 in this particular game.

Maybe not all the mafia members. But certainly one or two.

Wouldn't that just entirely depend on who the mafia are? Different people have different play styles.

Or let me ask another way: What makes you think this in particular?

I return to my general hunch that a mafioso in this environment would be more apt to make a bold play on Day 1 than normal.

I don't understand why or what you mean by that exactly, but that is quite ok. Whatever floats your boat rn tbh.

@Moonwink Why are you so sure I'm town and stuff? It's bit off-putting lol

@lucy You should probably catch mafia today, or tell me if I already did. Or else I'm probably going to tunnel you before you can tunnel me.

The game being insanely slow actually fits my general attitude towards mafia right now. So thank you for that.

Boquise wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 3:50 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 3:46 pm

Boquise wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 3:40 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 3:27 pm

Boquise wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 1:20 am I would expect mafia members to be more eager to come out strong and make a lasting impression on Day 1 in this particular game.

Maybe not all the mafia members. But certainly one or two.

Wouldn't that just entirely depend on who the mafia are? Different people have different play styles.

Or let me ask another way: What makes you think this in particular?

I return to my general hunch that a mafioso in this environment would be more apt to make a bold play on Day 1 than normal.

I don't understand why or what you mean by that exactly, but that is quite ok. Whatever floats your boat rn tbh.

Boquise and Dizzy are my two biggest blindspots in this game. I haven’t pinned down a solid read on anything that either of them have done.

But
You
are
Boquise?

Boq, I love you. Did I tell you that?

Boquise wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 4:07 pm @everyone: what do you think was the mafia team's likely strategy at the end of Day 1?

Likely no strategy.