The Syndicate

I finally lost a game I was mafia, and I can now relax next time I rand mafia lolol

GGs!

Nice work, 3p @ilario and @hollowkatt

Thank you so much, @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, @dunya and @Syn

Very well played to the mafia team, you all did well <3
Would scum again. 10/10
Except I would never scum again. =p

For the record, I'm not really up for the Nut paranoia. I also should not make decision based on wants. But I really do believe she has been quite towny, also meta wise. I usually read Nut pretty well. Only thing that gives me pause is the info that her role is a good scum pick.

I don't like the thought of Wilgy being town, but that's not a good way to solve. So I think we should give him the floor a bit today and solve.

Anyway, I should've been sleeping, so I'll attempt to do that and definitely not think of something game related in 10 minutes and start posting again

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:03 pmFurther Dizzy, explain my wolf mindset to me. Care to try?

I'm pretty sure I've seen you be like "kill me" as mafia before. But to be honest, I haven't payed enough attention to your post. If you're town, go go go today and we will find you.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:56 pmHoldup. Am I probably mafia mafia because of town wagons or are these unrelated statements?

These are unrelated statements. You are mafia because of the way you acted EoD.

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:54 pm Still feels like we're dealing with an above-average skilled wolfteam and that'd point out to players like nutella, alexa and even possibly dyachei

Nutella is pretty polarised imo. And I really don't think Dya shoots a teammate tbh. And Alexa is town, so no?

112 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:52 pm seanzie was such a blatantly, ridiculously awful wagon that i'm 99% sure everyone who was on it is town

Mood. I don't really want to do wagon analysis on town wagons. If Wilgy is mafia, it's different. Wilgy is probably mafia.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:51 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:50 pm MR is single this is my moment
Back off, I've been trying to date him for years

But but but im gayer

People I should iso/get clearer on so that I might feel forced to do it: MR, Sig, Sabie, HK, Falcon

MR is single this is my moment

Didn't everyone and their mom scum read me D1 and now I have no votes with it being a literal vote bonanza lol

[VOTE: 112 Wilgy Paopan TSP Sabie Sig] aubergine

Suddenly I have votes to spare but that's ok

Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:39 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:16 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:14 pmWhat about the hydra?
The hydra missed the cut. I think Mac was towny D1. Do you suspect the hydra?
What about me?

You're clearly a jester cult serial killer 4p

It's funny cause I'm Norwegian. Which is a meme.

112 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:40 pmi do not remember more than 5 minutes ago generally, so not sure

i will townread you for the rest of the game because of this interaction, however

I think you've done it twice as scum actually. You should probably choose a different tactic next time. The north remembers.

112 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:36 pm i am convinced that nobody who plays mafia with me knows how to read me these days.

i do not even know how to read myself.

i am unreadable.

i am god.

Join the club lol. Didn't you nag all game that I was scum last GoC, and then you turned out to be some cult anti-town monster 3p or something? HMMM

Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:34 pmSurely you've played many a game with Creature?

I have played some, but they are few and far between, and I don't remember his play. He posts a lot sometimes?

112 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:34 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:33 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:27 pm also the game just ended where guillo fooled TF out of me as a wolf, and when i realized he was a wolf there, that was part of what spurred my push because I realized almost anything is in his wolf range.
Oof.
alexa/dizzy:
w/w or w/t?

Explain your deep thoughts behind this

If people who know Creature think he's town, I'm good with sheeping that. I don't really know him, though I'm sure we have played several times actually. Put Paopan in instead.

alexa wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:27 pm also the game just ended where guillo fooled TF out of me as a wolf, and when i realized he was a wolf there, that was part of what spurred my push because I realized almost anything is in his wolf range.

Oof.

I don't know if I can bear to go back and read EoD, but probably still will at some point

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:23 pmThis is a terrible way to read hk and something he's been actively mitigating.

hk has a consistent depth of thought that he isn't flaunting.

You know, actually yes. HK might be more involved as scum. He hasn't really stood out to me in any way and I don't remember a lot of what he has done, no shade. But that might not be a bad thing in itself for HK. I know this is not what you said, but it's what I'm saying

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:22 pmIn his scum game, I seem to recall him pushing a much harder agenda and was a lot stiffer in how he interacted. In the town game I have seen, he just seems detached from everything and that reminds me a little bit of that. It's mainly meta which isn't strong.

Only scummy thing I remember was the marmot interaction I had with him

Alright. I don't really have a strong feeling either way. I actually think I liked part of his iso, or rather, I liked some posts particularly that seemed like town and not mafia would say, which should way heavier, so you might be right. I don't like him repeating a scum read on me when I'm pretty sure he doesn't know my play very well, as I don't know his. That seems "agenda-y", though I kind of hate that word.

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:21 pm I don't get the Belzy townreads

She derped. And it looked like a genuine derp in the moment. I haven't gone back to recheck it. I think she's probably towny in other ways, but tbh I just assumed the derp was real.

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:18 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:15 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:13 pmCreature and hk being in this list feels silly. I'm also increasingly thinking TSP's town.
Why is that silly? I should look into HK though. My list is instinct, and it probably works way better than overthinking.
I just think they're both obvious town

But why do you think that? Can it be expressed?

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:19 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:17 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:15 pm If you guys want to articulate concerns about me into something I can respond to, by all means go for it.

Otherwise shush.
Really weird vibes tbh
Articulate better because that's obviously not good enough. I am consciously playing a *bit* differently than I usually do but not so much so that I should be attracting a 'weird vibes' read from you, imo.

It got worse.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:18 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:13 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:12 pm I’m gonna bury this post here because we’re not supposed to talk about this anymore but I want to because it actually touched a slight moral nerve when I was reading over it. No one actually bother to read this please, it’s just me grumbling.

Spoiler: show
Seriously don’t bother, it’s nothing new I’m adding.

Spoiler: show
Alexa did nothing wrong, and I feel like she was being mildly gaslit by NAA and maybe one or two others. Like it was a supposed *red check* and she had a shot – doesn’t matter that NAA said ‘but let’s wait till D2’ or whatever, no one was expecting a weird role like he’s now implied, and I would’ve done the exact same as Alexa, and I think many people would’ve. And saying things like ‘I take no responsibility’ ahead of time does not magically absolve you of responsibility.

I feel like people were trying to apportion blame ‘fairly’ and…no. I don’t want to say this is all NAA’s fault in the sense he’s anti-town, because by now it’s clear why he did what he did and there’s a logic to it. But it was frustrating me to backread the blame Alexa was getting when it was, IMO, very clearly undeserved.

I chalk it up to emotions running high from all parties and have no ill feelings of my own towards anyone, but I was reading over it on my breaks at work and getting annoyed, so I kinda wanted to post this for Alexa’s sake.

Anyway don’t @ me to reopen this can.

Actually, you're probably fine.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:13 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:12 pm I’m gonna bury this post here because we’re not supposed to talk about this anymore but I want to because it actually touched a slight moral nerve when I was reading over it. No one actually bother to read this please, it’s just me grumbling.

Spoiler: show
Seriously don’t bother, it’s nothing new I’m adding.

Spoiler: show
Alexa did nothing wrong, and I feel like she was being mildly gaslit by NAA and maybe one or two others. Like it was a supposed *red check* and she had a shot – doesn’t matter that NAA said ‘but let’s wait till D2’ or whatever, no one was expecting a weird role like he’s now implied, and I would’ve done the exact same as Alexa, and I think many people would’ve. And saying things like ‘I take no responsibility’ ahead of time does not magically absolve you of responsibility.

I feel like people were trying to apportion blame ‘fairly’ and…no. I don’t want to say this is all NAA’s fault in the sense he’s anti-town, because by now it’s clear why he did what he did and there’s a logic to it. But it was frustrating me to backread the blame Alexa was getting when it was, IMO, very clearly undeserved.

I chalk it up to emotions running high from all parties and have no ill feelings of my own towards anyone, but I was reading over it on my breaks at work and getting annoyed, so I kinda wanted to post this for Alexa’s sake.

Anyway don’t @ me to reopen this can.

This is wolfy
hmmmmmmmmmmm

I don't know if MR does all that as mafia, it's like icky fake comforting? But actually, it's probably nothing or not really AI.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:16 pmi like this list for the most part

i'm at leaning town on creature and lp at this point, would swap in porscha and.... idk guillo?

I don't think Porscha. Maybe I'm missing something with Guillo and I just think I can read him while I actually can't. I probably haven't payed too much attention to his posts after I decided he was town tbh

Can someone explain why Creature is town?

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:15 pm If you guys want to articulate concerns about me into something I can respond to, by all means go for it.

Otherwise shush.

Really weird vibes tbh

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:14 pmWhat about the hydra?

The hydra missed the cut. I think Mac was towny D1. Do you suspect the hydra?

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:13 pmCreature and hk being in this list feels silly. I'm also increasingly thinking TSP's town.

Why is that silly? I should look into HK though. My list is instinct, and it probably works way better than overthinking.

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:13 pm Radishes is freaking me out ngl

I had the same feeling. That analysis.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:12 pm I’m gonna bury this post here because we’re not supposed to talk about this anymore but I want to because it actually touched a slight moral nerve when I was reading over it. No one actually bother to read this please, it’s just me grumbling.

Spoiler: show
Seriously don’t bother, it’s nothing new I’m adding.

Spoiler: show
Alexa did nothing wrong, and I feel like she was being mildly gaslit by NAA and maybe one or two others. Like it was a supposed *red check* and she had a shot – doesn’t matter that NAA said ‘but let’s wait till D2’ or whatever, no one was expecting a weird role like he’s now implied, and I would’ve done the exact same as Alexa, and I think many people would’ve. And saying things like ‘I take no responsibility’ ahead of time does not magically absolve you of responsibility.

I feel like people were trying to apportion blame ‘fairly’ and…no. I don’t want to say this is all NAA’s fault in the sense he’s anti-town, because by now it’s clear why he did what he did and there’s a logic to it. But it was frustrating me to backread the blame Alexa was getting when it was, IMO, very clearly undeserved.

I chalk it up to emotions running high from all parties and have no ill feelings of my own towards anyone, but I was reading over it on my breaks at work and getting annoyed, so I kinda wanted to post this for Alexa’s sake.

Anyway don’t @ me to reopen this can.

Actually, you're probably fine.

Radish, are you actually a wolf?

112
Creature
DrWilgy
hollowkatt
LinearPoint
sabie12
sig
TonyStarkPrime

Boom. If there's not wolf in here I quit mafia forever. Probably.

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:05 pm I think Dyslexicon is wolf here

We need to look on who was vote hopping yesterday especially because I feel all proposed CFDs were town and wolves were having fun with the chaos

Try me, Brenda. I have eight votes!

Can we still change our votes? I want to vote eight people lol

Omg fuck yeah the multichop! I've always wanted this to be a mechanic in big games it is SO much better. Thank you Nook for adding that, I think I've complained about it in every large game I've played. Lol I'm excited for that. Inb4 hitting 4 town ChAmPs

Not fucking Sean again.

Vote Ender?

Probably Ender

Eh. I don't mind the Wilgy wagon either ftr.

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:45 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:44 pm Going back to my actual guts

[VOTE: Ender] aubergine
sell me

Read the first part of his iso and scan for the energy in it. If you have the time. Also his answer to me about me having a funeral for my emotion reading or whatever, that's maybe personal to me but it hit really weird.

Belzy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:43 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:41 pm
Belzy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:40 pm Don't kill Porscha, I will explain later.
Tell me who to kill and don't tell me me.
I wanna say c4 but c4 got zero votes, so Axe I guess to save Porscha

If Porscha is indeed town, you might even be right. Don't think that will happen now though, and it's not a vote I'd feel confident in.

Going back to my actual guts

[VOTE: Ender] aubergine

Belzy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:40 pm Don't kill Porscha, I will explain later.

Tell me who to kill and don't tell me me.

I voted Porscha before it was cool.

Spoiler: show

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:15 pm In only 10 posts, Porscha has

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:31 pm hi guys. glad to see this is like 30-something pages in already lol...

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:49 pm
Belzy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:47 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:45 pm I only read on radish there to clarify
How much of the thread have you read?
about a quarter of it

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:58 pm Might not get to all of the day 1 posts. Amazing amount of posts already tbh, more than I expected even with all these people lol. Sorry if I dont quite catch all of them, but I'll do my best to read as much as I can. And a lot of my reads early on are pretty superficial since there is so much going on, I won't be hard reading this early. Not trying to go too crazy day 1 hehe.
An unnatural number of posts about how they're behind
(Middle one was prompted tho so less bad)

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:44 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:42 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 3:45 pm I have a red on radishes kill him

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 3:46 pmI cc
I town read this
yeah that's actual comedy. I don't see a reason to not town read radish atm

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:45 pm I only read on radish there to clarify
A TMIey Radish read

Particularly the wording of "I don't see a reason not to townread _______"
That's literally not how townreads work and it especially makes no sense when your reason is "this post is funny" and even more so when you obviously haven't read the rest of his posts

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:05 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:04 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:03 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:00 pm [VOTE: Porscha] aubergine

Sup
hey gamer what's poppin
You feel wolfy from a glance

Are you a wolf?
laugh and a half, and whether I was or wasn't I'd be saying no either way. seems like a silly question
This overly self-aware response, but could be explained by an MS mentality or something similar

Just all seems pretty wolfy

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:49 pm Okay I found the stuff

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:34 pm >I straight up said that any reads I make early are not hard reads and I'll reiterate again that they should not be taken seriously. you didnt bother pushing hollowkat on it even though they said the same thing as me, which is that, "That's why I town read it. I'm not saying "this is a god read" I'm saying this made me laugh and I town read laughs." - I am in agreement with Hk on this and would also like my take to be read the same way.
Don't care that you had the read or how strong it was, I know villagers are gonna have weird reads and particularly for sense of humor. What I care about is how you justified it, and I think that should've been pretty obvious from what I wrote.

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:34 pm >I'm not sure how this can be read as "overly self aware" when a majority of the players have no reason to claim wolf day 1, including myself. I'm not wolf, but I think it's a waste of time to just straight up ask any player that right now. I hope that explains my thoughts in a way that makes sense to you.
Reasonable.

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:34 pm Yeah, not going to apologize for trying to play catch up on the ridiculous amount of day 1 posts and making it known that I'm not caught up yet, but trying to contribute. That's where I am right now, and I'm straight chilling since it's a day 1 flooded with posts and players.
Again, obviously not the point I was making. Not being caught up is fine. I'm not caught up. What makes it wolfy is when almost half of your posts are saying you're not caught up. "Hey guys I'm not caught up yet. I still have to catch up. Wow there are so many posts that I'll read later while catching up. By the way did you know I'm not caught up?"

@dyachei On Porscha

dyachei wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:35 pm whats the case on porscha?

c4 had stuff in his iso hold on

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