GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 Endgame (town and 3p win)

[112]

i do not remember more than 5 minutes ago generally, so not sure

i will townread you for the rest of the game because of this interaction, however

I think you've done it twice as scum actually. You should probably choose a different tactic next time. The north remembers.

I will note this in my memory logs.

[DrWilgy]

I'm thinking Nut is scum now.

Pao, Sabie, Nut.

[Phil and Gloria]

i....kinda dont get why people scumread linearpoint

they seem pretty villagery to me, pretty free flowing thoughts etc

they have been rather free flowing in their appraisal of the eod but d1 they were anything but

[Justplayingitcool]

i like this list for the most part

i'm at leaning town on creature and lp at this point, would swap in porscha and.... idk guillo?

I don't think Porscha. Maybe I'm missing something with Guillo and I just think I can read him while I actually can't. I probably haven't payed too much attention to his posts after I decided he was town tbh

Can someone explain why Creature is town?

In his scum game, I seem to recall him pushing a much harder agenda and was a lot stiffer in how he interacted. In the town game I have seen, he just seems detached from everything and that reminds me a little bit of that. It's mainly meta which isn't strong.

Only scummy thing I remember was the marmot interaction I had with him

It frustrates me that he doesn't explain why he has the reads he has. This is not something I think is normal for him?

I just tried to explain why Marmot felt wolfy at the time. I'm not very good at translating my feelings into academical words though.

mood

[Dyslexicon]

What about the hydra?

The hydra missed the cut. I think Mac was towny D1. Do you suspect the hydra?

What about me?

You're clearly a jester cult serial killer 4p

[Justplayingitcool]

not opposed to killing TSP

[Creature]

Seanzie ( 7 ): Urist, NotAnAxehole, Paopan, Belzy, TonyStarkPrime, DrWilgy, nutella
DrWilgy ( 6 ): sabie, dyachei, ender, sean, radishes, c4
NotAnAxehole ( 4 ): Guillotine, alexa, Phil and Gloria, ilario
EnderWiggin ( 3 ): dyslexicon, jpic, falcon
112 ( 1 ): Sloonei
Dyslexicon ( 1 ): BoKnows
falcon45ca ( 1 ): 112
Porscha ( 1 ): linearpoint
sig ( 1 ): hollowkatt
Not Voting ( 3 ): Creature, sig, porscha

Seanzie: Paopan, Belzy, TonyStarkPrime, DrWilgy, nutella
Wiggly voted self preservation, TSP lead the wagon, need more on the other 3 as to why they voted it. Probably 2 Mafia exactly.

DrWilgy: sabie, dyachei, radishes, c4
Dya shot Marmot so not them, the other 3 maybe 1 Mafia as a counterwagon if Wiggly is not Mafia.

NotAnAxehole: Guillotine, alexa, Phil and Gloria, ilario
This wagon is a bit sus so probably 1-2 Mafia in it, but it kind of ended up being a vanity wagon so if Wiggly is Mafia, Mafia being on this wagon makes little sense.

EnderWiggin: dyslexicon, jpic, falcon
One wagon that was in the CFDS. Possibly 1 Maf, not guarenteed.

Not voting/pure vanity: Sloonei, 112, hollowkatt, Creature, sig, porscha, and Linearpoint (Neeko)
1 to 2 Mafia in this list based on other analysis.

Neeko thinks we should focus on 2 of these groups of people for the vote of 8 OR choose a handful of suspicious from each.
Neekos proposal based on this would be: Paopan, Belzy, TonyStarkPrime, nutella/Wiggly, Guillotine, alexa, Phil and Gloria, ilario as the logical solving mechanically.
One can argue instead of "Guillotine, alexa, Phil and Gloria, ilario" putting 'sabie, dyachei, radishes, c4" also is logical to solve mechanically.

IF neeko were to suggest scummiest of all groups the list would look closer to this:
Belzy, TonyStarkPrime, Guillotine, Phil and Gloria, Sabie, radishes, jpic, falcon with possibly substituting one for c4 or Dizzy.

Wouldn't surprise me if one of the wagons was entirely pure considering there are six mafia for four wagons

[Phil and Gloria]

I don't think it's possible that the entire seanzie wagon was town so there must be at least some mafia there. There are 3 people who didn't vote or voted a dead player sig creature and porsha. I recognize people think my vote is scummy but I scum read wilgy and I wasn't able to be here til right before EOD for irl reasons. I came back to pure chaos and a seanzie wagon that didn't feel good at all.

this is very townie

[Phil and Gloria]

I don't think it's possible that the entire seanzie wagon was town so there must be at least some mafia there. There are 3 people who didn't vote or voted a dead player sig creature and porsha. I recognize people think my vote is scummy but I scum read wilgy and I wasn't able to be here til right before EOD for irl reasons. I came back to pure chaos and a seanzie wagon that didn't feel good at all.

horrific take... that's the towniest post in the game so far

[Creature]

Yesterday's EOD wagons were NAA, Ender, Wilgy and Seanzie

It's very possible they were all town

it's also possible they were not

We know 3/4 of them were town. We're now debating on DrWilgy.

[alexa]

I think Sabie had a bad EOD and a really weird popin vote

[alexa]

I don't think it's possible that the entire seanzie wagon was town so there must be at least some mafia there. There are 3 people who didn't vote or voted a dead player sig creature and porsha. I recognize people think my vote is scummy but I scum read wilgy and I wasn't able to be here til right before EOD for irl reasons. I came back to pure chaos and a seanzie wagon that didn't feel good at all.

horrific take... that's the towniest post in the game so far

how?

[LinearPoint]

Seanzie ( 7 ): Urist, NotAnAxehole, Paopan, Belzy, TonyStarkPrime, DrWilgy, nutella
DrWilgy ( 6 ): sabie, dyachei, ender, sean, radishes, c4
NotAnAxehole ( 4 ): Guillotine, alexa, Phil and Gloria, ilario
EnderWiggin ( 3 ): dyslexicon, jpic, falcon
112 ( 1 ): Sloonei
Dyslexicon ( 1 ): BoKnows
falcon45ca ( 1 ): 112
Porscha ( 1 ): linearpoint
sig ( 1 ): hollowkatt
Not Voting ( 3 ): Creature, sig, porscha

Seanzie: Paopan, Belzy, TonyStarkPrime, DrWilgy, nutella
Wiggly voted self preservation, TSP lead the wagon, need more on the other 3 as to why they voted it. Probably 2 Mafia exactly.

DrWilgy: sabie, dyachei, radishes, c4
Dya shot Marmot so not them, the other 3 maybe 1 Mafia as a counterwagon if Wiggly is not Mafia.

NotAnAxehole: Guillotine, alexa, Phil and Gloria, ilario
This wagon is a bit sus so probably 1-2 Mafia in it, but it kind of ended up being a vanity wagon so if Wiggly is Mafia, Mafia being on this wagon makes little sense.

EnderWiggin: dyslexicon, jpic, falcon
One wagon that was in the CFDS. Possibly 1 Maf, not guarenteed.

Not voting/pure vanity: Sloonei, 112, hollowkatt, Creature, sig, porscha, and Linearpoint (Neeko)
1 to 2 Mafia in this list based on other analysis.

Neeko thinks we should focus on 2 of these groups of people for the vote of 8 OR choose a handful of suspicious from each.
Neekos proposal based on this would be: Paopan, Belzy, TonyStarkPrime, nutella/Wiggly, Guillotine, alexa, Phil and Gloria, ilario as the logical solving mechanically.
One can argue instead of "Guillotine, alexa, Phil and Gloria, ilario" putting 'sabie, dyachei, radishes, c4" also is logical to solve mechanically.

IF neeko were to suggest scummiest of all groups the list would look closer to this:
Belzy, TonyStarkPrime, Guillotine, Phil and Gloria, Sabie, radishes, jpic, falcon with possibly substituting one for c4 or Dizzy.

Wouldn't surprise me if one of the wagons was entirely pure considering there are six mafia for four wagons

This is also fair. That's why Neeko said Ender's wagon is possibly just pure. NAA's might also be pure, but is probably largely dependant on Wiggly's alignment.
Wiggly may just be mechanically correct to kill to be honest. It says a lot about the wagons of D1.

[Phil and Gloria]

BTW I have mechanical information that implies we should *not* be killing Guillo today (it is not a green check).

hmm

[Master Radishes]

I was trying to do my work but you idiots keep distracting me.


Falcon it's not me who can't eat gluten, it's my wife.

[Phil and Gloria]

Pao, Ender



1 or both is Maf

ender is dead town

Sweet, Pao lock Maf then

Why Pao lock mafia?
Pao didn't seem that bad yesterday aside from the Sean wagon.

I think out of everyone who took my lhf, Pao and Sabie we're the EASIEST FOR ME TO PUSH.

ftfy

[DrWilgy]

I don't think it's possible that the entire seanzie wagon was town so there must be at least some mafia there. There are 3 people who didn't vote or voted a dead player sig creature and porsha. I recognize people think my vote is scummy but I scum read wilgy and I wasn't able to be here til right before EOD for irl reasons. I came back to pure chaos and a seanzie wagon that didn't feel good at all.

this is very townie

No its not.

[Phil and Gloria]

Every time Sabie posts I'm like 'this is probably scum' but I never want to push there because I don't think that cracks the game open anyway.

wtf

[Creature]

Seanzie ( 7 ): Urist, NotAnAxehole, Paopan, Belzy, TonyStarkPrime, DrWilgy, nutella
DrWilgy ( 6 ): sabie, dyachei, ender, sean, radishes, c4
NotAnAxehole ( 4 ): Guillotine, alexa, Phil and Gloria, ilario
EnderWiggin ( 3 ): dyslexicon, jpic, falcon
112 ( 1 ): Sloonei
Dyslexicon ( 1 ): BoKnows
falcon45ca ( 1 ): 112
Porscha ( 1 ): linearpoint
sig ( 1 ): hollowkatt
Not Voting ( 3 ): Creature, sig, porscha

Seanzie: Paopan, Belzy, TonyStarkPrime, DrWilgy, nutella
Wiggly voted self preservation, TSP lead the wagon, need more on the other 3 as to why they voted it. Probably 2 Mafia exactly.

DrWilgy: sabie, dyachei, radishes, c4
Dya shot Marmot so not them, the other 3 maybe 1 Mafia as a counterwagon if Wiggly is not Mafia.

NotAnAxehole: Guillotine, alexa, Phil and Gloria, ilario
This wagon is a bit sus so probably 1-2 Mafia in it, but it kind of ended up being a vanity wagon so if Wiggly is Mafia, Mafia being on this wagon makes little sense.

EnderWiggin: dyslexicon, jpic, falcon
One wagon that was in the CFDS. Possibly 1 Maf, not guarenteed.

Not voting/pure vanity: Sloonei, 112, hollowkatt, Creature, sig, porscha, and Linearpoint (Neeko)
1 to 2 Mafia in this list based on other analysis.

Neeko thinks we should focus on 2 of these groups of people for the vote of 8 OR choose a handful of suspicious from each.
Neekos proposal based on this would be: Paopan, Belzy, TonyStarkPrime, nutella/Wiggly, Guillotine, alexa, Phil and Gloria, ilario as the logical solving mechanically.
One can argue instead of "Guillotine, alexa, Phil and Gloria, ilario" putting 'sabie, dyachei, radishes, c4" also is logical to solve mechanically.

IF neeko were to suggest scummiest of all groups the list would look closer to this:
Belzy, TonyStarkPrime, Guillotine, Phil and Gloria, Sabie, radishes, jpic, falcon with possibly substituting one for c4 or Dizzy.

Wouldn't surprise me if one of the wagons was entirely pure considering there are six mafia for four wagons

This is also fair. That's why Neeko said Ender's wagon is possibly just pure. NAA's might also be pure, but is probably largely dependant on Wiggly's alignment.
Wiggly may just be mechanically correct to kill to be honest. It says a lot about the wagons of D1.

We should try to read DrWilgy normally. We can't afford killing merely for info now.

[Phil and Gloria]

Yesterday's EOD wagons were NAA, Ender, Wilgy and Seanzie

It's very possible they were all town

Actually yeah I feel like the naa wagon being a thing might actually be a point in favor of wilgy town bc if wilgy was a hit it might not have been so close with seanzie

but meh, i think we need to flip him

you are giving me scrunch face

[falcon45ca]

I was trying to do my work but you idiots keep distracting me.


Falcon it's not me who can't eat gluten, it's my wife.

I just assumed you were single, and she's a figment of your imagination

[Phil and Gloria]

OK, we still have 36 hours, we don't need to rush the 8 votes immediately.
But we should probably go back to the EoD and look it over again. Probably get a good mix of people whose votes were looking oppertunistic EoD and some other generally scummy people.
Also any rechecks should come out (but with 2 cops dying last night that may not be a thing)

go ahead

[112]

I was trying to do my work but you idiots keep distracting me.


Falcon it's not me who can't eat gluten, it's my wife.

I just assumed you were single, and she's a figment of your imagination

okay but where are we at?

[DrWilgy]

The Hydra said one good thing and everything since has been butt

[Dyslexicon]

[VOTE: 112 Wilgy Paopan TSP Sabie Sig] aubergine

Suddenly I have votes to spare but that's ok

[Phil and Gloria]

Creature has mostly stood to the side shaking their head at us and commenting on how bad things are going.

In a vacuum that's scummy, but it seems lots of people have meta and I do not.

welcome to playing with creature

he loves to catastrophize

thoughts on nutella?

[LinearPoint]

Seanzie ( 7 ): Urist, NotAnAxehole, Paopan, Belzy, TonyStarkPrime, DrWilgy, nutella
DrWilgy ( 6 ): sabie, dyachei, ender, sean, radishes, c4
NotAnAxehole ( 4 ): Guillotine, alexa, Phil and Gloria, ilario
EnderWiggin ( 3 ): dyslexicon, jpic, falcon
112 ( 1 ): Sloonei
Dyslexicon ( 1 ): BoKnows
falcon45ca ( 1 ): 112
Porscha ( 1 ): linearpoint
sig ( 1 ): hollowkatt
Not Voting ( 3 ): Creature, sig, porscha

Seanzie: Paopan, Belzy, TonyStarkPrime, DrWilgy, nutella
Wiggly voted self preservation, TSP lead the wagon, need more on the other 3 as to why they voted it. Probably 2 Mafia exactly.

DrWilgy: sabie, dyachei, radishes, c4
Dya shot Marmot so not them, the other 3 maybe 1 Mafia as a counterwagon if Wiggly is not Mafia.

NotAnAxehole: Guillotine, alexa, Phil and Gloria, ilario
This wagon is a bit sus so probably 1-2 Mafia in it, but it kind of ended up being a vanity wagon so if Wiggly is Mafia, Mafia being on this wagon makes little sense.

EnderWiggin: dyslexicon, jpic, falcon
One wagon that was in the CFDS. Possibly 1 Maf, not guarenteed.

Not voting/pure vanity: Sloonei, 112, hollowkatt, Creature, sig, porscha, and Linearpoint (Neeko)
1 to 2 Mafia in this list based on other analysis.

Neeko thinks we should focus on 2 of these groups of people for the vote of 8 OR choose a handful of suspicious from each.
Neekos proposal based on this would be: Paopan, Belzy, TonyStarkPrime, nutella/Wiggly, Guillotine, alexa, Phil and Gloria, ilario as the logical solving mechanically.
One can argue instead of "Guillotine, alexa, Phil and Gloria, ilario" putting 'sabie, dyachei, radishes, c4" also is logical to solve mechanically.

IF neeko were to suggest scummiest of all groups the list would look closer to this:
Belzy, TonyStarkPrime, Guillotine, Phil and Gloria, Sabie, radishes, jpic, falcon with possibly substituting one for c4 or Dizzy.

Wouldn't surprise me if one of the wagons was entirely pure considering there are six mafia for four wagons

This is also fair. That's why Neeko said Ender's wagon is possibly just pure. NAA's might also be pure, but is probably largely dependant on Wiggly's alignment.
Wiggly may just be mechanically correct to kill to be honest. It says a lot about the wagons of D1.

We should try to read DrWilgy normally. We can't afford killing merely for info now.

That would be ideal yes, especially since we have 4 lynches today and we can't glean any info from Wiggly flip until N2 baring a dayvig, but it seems all dayvigs may have had to shoot day 1 based on Alexa, c4, and Sean.

[112]

The Hydra said one good thing and everything since has been butt

who is the hydra

if P&G i agree with you except for some posts i liked

[Master Radishes]

I was trying to do my work but you idiots keep distracting me.


Falcon it's not me who can't eat gluten, it's my wife.

I just assumed you were single, and she's a figment of your imagination

Lmao

[alexa]

Dead Players/Alive Players:

Alive: 24
112
alexa
Belzy
c4e5g3d5
Creature
DrWilgy
dyachei
Dyslexicon
falcon45ca
Guillotine
hollowkatt
ilario
Justplayingitcool
LinearPoint
Master Radishes
nutella
Paopan
Phil and Gloria
Porscha
sabie12
Seanzie
sig
Sloonei
TonyStarkPrime

6 wolves alive, 1+ 3P alive

Dead Wolf: 1
Marmot

Dead Village: 7
KZA
Scotty
Alison
BoKnows
Urist
EnderWiggin
NotAnAxehole

[Creature]

Still paranoid Phil and Gloria might be wolf here but they're like the only slot that feels like is casting light into the darkness

[DrWilgy]

The Hydra said one good thing and everything since has been butt

who is the hydra

if P&G i agree with you except for some posts i liked

Yeh

[Phil and Gloria]

If someone asks me one more time 'are you actually a wolf/wolfing' I'm gonna do something drastic like eat a whole sandwich.

Eating an entire sandwich isn’t that hard.

got him

[alexa]

vote: TSP

this is my third, i retract my god read on him, didn't like his EOD

[Phil and Gloria]

I'm kinda paranoid over nutella too

mmm how paranoid?

[Dyslexicon]

Didn't everyone and their mom scum read me D1 and now I have no votes with it being a literal vote bonanza lol

[Phil and Gloria]

linearpoint is admittedly improving a bit this SOD.

quite

[falcon45ca]

I was trying to do my work but you idiots keep distracting me.


Falcon it's not me who can't eat gluten, it's my wife.

I just assumed you were single, and she's a figment of your imagination

okay but where are we at?

Imma 'bout to drive in a blizzard, and you are safely snuggled in the eternal ether of awesome




Wish me luck

[Creature]

Dead Players/Alive Players:

Alive: 24
112
alexa
Belzy
c4e5g3d5
Creature
DrWilgy
dyachei
Dyslexicon
falcon45ca
Guillotine
hollowkatt
ilario
Justplayingitcool
LinearPoint
Master Radishes
nutella
Paopan
Phil and Gloria
Porscha
sabie12
Seanzie
sig
Sloonei
TonyStarkPrime

6 wolves alive, 1+ 3P alive

Dead Wolf: 1
Marmot

Dead Village: 7
KZA
Scotty
Alison
BoKnows
Urist
EnderWiggin
NotAnAxehole

You listed Seanzie as living

[Phil and Gloria]

Seanzie ( 7 ): Urist, NotAnAxehole, Paopan, Belzy, TonyStarkPrime, DrWilgy, nutella
DrWilgy ( 6 ): sabie, dyachei, ender, sean, radishes, c4
NotAnAxehole ( 4 ): Guillotine, alexa, Phil and Gloria, ilario
EnderWiggin ( 3 ): dyslexicon, jpic, falcon
112 ( 1 ): Sloonei
Dyslexicon ( 1 ): BoKnows
falcon45ca ( 1 ): 112
Porscha ( 1 ): linearpoint
sig ( 1 ): hollowkatt
Not Voting ( 3 ): Creature, sig, porscha
In the above we have our end of day vote with colors!

mathematically speaking there's more than likely at least 1 mafia on the top 4 wagons

I haven't seen it but what's the take on the counter wagon (drwilgy) being mafia? he's literally the only wagon left?

As a practice of Gun 2 Head, people should color some red in here (preferrably people who have read the game)

(not like me )

Now you can say I haven't been pulling my weight in this couple

[Phil and Gloria]

I'm kinda paranoid over nutella too

Nah

I am of a similar mind to Creature on this subject fwiw

[Master Radishes]

vote: TSP

this is my third, i retract my god read on him, didn't like his EOD

I meant to point out he was the only one to apparently quickly realise NAA didn't have a real red check. And like if anyone would it's TSP, but also...

[Dyslexicon]

MR is single this is my moment

[DrWilgy]

I'll join on [VOTE: TSP] aubergine.

Still thinking about that [VOTE: Nut] aubergine wagon tho. That'd be hype.

[112]

I was trying to do my work but you idiots keep distracting me.


Falcon it's not me who can't eat gluten, it's my wife.

I just assumed you were single, and she's a figment of your imagination

okay but where are we at?

Imma 'bout to drive in a blizzard, and you are safely snuggled in the eternal ether of awesome




Wish me luck

it's probably best that i don't lest you rely on it too much and forget the aspect of paying attention

[Dyslexicon]

People I should iso/get clearer on so that I might feel forced to do it: MR, Sig, Sabie, HK, Falcon

[Creature]

I'm kinda paranoid over nutella too

mmm how paranoid?

Like, on one hand she partake of the Marmot wagon and dyachei (I think?) was defending her but on the other hand nutella also hopped into the bad CFD wagons and feels like could be wolf doing decent

[alexa]

my bad @Creature , guess because he should be!!! edit:

Dead Players/Alive Players:

Alive: 23
112
alexa
Belzy
c4e5g3d5
Creature
DrWilgy
dyachei
Dyslexicon
falcon45ca
Guillotine
hollowkatt
ilario
Justplayingitcool
LinearPoint
Master Radishes
nutella
Paopan
Phil and Gloria
Porscha
sabie12
sig
Sloonei
TonyStarkPrime

6 wolves alive, 1+ 3P alive

Dead Wolf: 1
Marmot

Dead Village: 8
KZA
Scotty
Alison
BoKnows
Urist
EnderWiggin
NotAnAxehole
Seanzie

[Phil and Gloria]

I'm kinda paranoid over nutella too

IDT i'll ever come around to her being a wolf after the whole thing SOD1.

also, i don't want to say anything else, but she is semi-confirmable

I'm looking at wolf alexa here aren't I

[falcon45ca]

MR is single this is my moment

Back off, I've been trying to date him for years