The Syndicate

Long Con wrote:<<post deleted by power-crazed S~V~S>>

Oh shit keys, I thought I did not delete my original post, and deleted yours too by mistake. I am sorry

Seriously, I was not being an ass. It was an accident. I hit delete, then went in the thread, and thought it was still there and deleted it again.

keys56000000000 wrote:Lol, it seems Irony is still playing this game; nice post deletion.

What, I hit the Post button instead of the PM button. No conspiracy

The recruit passed down :O

The Doctor could be recruited? I feel like an idiot.

Were there recruiting constraints? Now I get why Epi said civs couldn't win :P

Is there a role list?

Chris wrote:Really Dom?

Way to stay classy man.

Don't even go there

nijuukyugou wrote:

Chris wrote:Just out of curiosity, nijuu... what are your reasons to vote DF? Because before, you were voting for him under the suspicion of being The Master. Is that what you're voting for him for again?

Well, based on this last lynch, it's definitely looking like Dom = Master. My votes for DF were based on behavior more than logical speculation, so I still think he's bad, but not the Master. Does that make sense?

100% sense~ there are baddies besides the Master, and he was gonna get lynched (or not as the case may be) whether or not YOU voted for someone else.

Dom wrote:

S~V~S wrote:I have been quiet for the same reasons a lot of people have been quiet.

And I am not recruited.

I DID feel bad about this vote, but if you are going to try to be that way as you are going down, then :P

*Votes Dom*

What your civvie supermajority of the thread doesn't make you feel empowered?

;(

Dom, I STILL suspect Epi, and I will bet anything that end game, he is bad. But no one has listened to that, so I give up. Ever time I have had an opinion, someone pipes in with a *new* Master suspect, or a *new* recruiter, and the ultimate urgency of lynching this person NNNAAAAAAAOOOOOOOOOOOOO. I have had to defend on a lot of crap cases built on things like weak searches and not reading the roles correctly, and had to wade through tons of posts, just like everyone else. You have been busy & blendy most of the game, and I did not have an opinion on you, so i did not give one until asked.

I don't recall hearing from YOU either, so don't blame me if we did not interact.

I have been quiet for the same reasons a lot of people have been quiet.

And I am not recruited.

I DID feel bad about this vote, but if you are going to try to be that way as you are going down, then :P

*Votes Dom*

You didn't already know that?

Why? Dom & I have similar baddie thought processes, and I kill people who suspect me all the time. Most of the time I don't even have to WIFOM my way out of it, other people do it for me. They say things like you just said.

Moot point though since we were not thinking Dom is cyber, though.

Wow, harsh night

I still trusted you, zeek. I had no real reason to distrust keys, and I am sorry to see both of them go>

Aw Bea, Sweetie, whatever works for you <3

Zeek not week Lol.

"Allowed"? Last I looked BTS partners are not your keepers.

I thought week was civ after that option poll with Alzarius and Azure. He pushed hard for the civvies option. But as MP says a subsequent recruitment is possible, but I don't think he's an original baddie either.

Voting Faraday, the case was good before the hint, and I am not sure I believe it.

Yes, Chris, Canuck was very invested in her other game and did not have the time an awesome role demanded. Canuck, like Rey, quits games quite often. I replaced her in one game on TP, and it was a really good role, although not the same level as the Master.

I honestly don't know what to do, and i have to walk the dog and go to bed. I will pop back in to vote before bed. So many suppositions. There are too many assumptions in the Dom case imo, but zeek seems SO sure. Dom seems really genuine in his frustration, but Dom plays outraged civvie better than most anyone I can think of.

brb

Heroin & knee-capping strippers. Sounds like an awesome party.

zeek wrote:I don't think your interpretation is correct. Dom remains the only person not pegged as a role out of those Epi voters and whoever MM was with wouldn't have missed it. It ended a draw, on the surface, this is the only thing that makes sense.

I have seen teammates miss votes and leave people out to dry. It is one possible interpretation, yes, but not the only possible interpretation, imo.

I am still trying to decide if Faraday is a real Ood or a Faux Ood. Plus I still think Ninju sounds faux in general. I am not feeling any of these other cases enough to vote based on them; too many variables. I would like to see where the tow of them vote, but I don't expect it would change my opinion of either of them.

Keys, I am gonna have nightmares about clowns on PCP now

Epignosis wrote:

S~V~S wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

S~V~S wrote:I went with Non Dr Who cause I don't want to compete with the hosts.

And interesting~ he was recruited. it does not say by whom, though. I am going to guess the Daleks, because i tend to believe in the Snowy Lynch/Saving Made theory.

Read the roles. He was recruited by The Master.

See?

I wasn't trying to spank anyone.

I'm just direct.

No worries. I got over it. The point was, though, that originally, no one had any problems thinking that Lucy & the Master had gotten together. Then based on wording, which can be tricksy, when we found there may be an actual recruiter, suddenly no one thought that anymore.

i took your advice and read the roles, and do think either scenario is possible.

Linki~ yeah, he is not actiing like a noob anything.

Epignosis wrote:

S~V~S wrote:I went with Non Dr Who cause I don't want to compete with the hosts.

And interesting~ he was recruited. it does not say by whom, though. I am going to guess the Daleks, because i tend to believe in the Snowy Lynch/Saving Made theory.

Read the roles. He was recruited by The Master.

See?

How many people missed that vote?

And I am not so sure about that; being the role he was, I still think it possible that he had joined with the Master and that the way it was worded was the best way to convey that, and remain ambiguous. When i first said, "Hey, we don't know who recruited him", i got spanked for it, and told to read the Masters role. When we learned there was a separate recruiting role (presumably) only then did people stop thinking MM was recruited by the Master.

OK, we have already spread the vote out too far. We have Faraday, Dom, Hedge, Ninjajujube & Snowy.

The two I feel strongest about are Faraday & Ninju. Not sure I buy the Ood-ity~ it seemed too convenient to me. And Ninju sounds totally insincere to me. So I am leaning towards a Ninju vote, but will be around for a few hours. I am very, very leery of this lynch. It can all go to hell really fast with this spread. And the case makers, including people I trust, for the most part, seems very very sure about their beliefs. I am not so sure, and really don't want to make a mistake.

juliets wrote:SVS where are you leaning for this vote?

No idea yet tbh. Will jump in when home.

Chris wrote:MP, two things I'd like to ask you about.

With quotes, is there a way to timestamp them? Also, is there a way to click on a quote to take you to the original?

And if not, can you make it so?

I don't know that we would want to install mods mid game. I do know that that mod is on the to do list.

Why would it have to be a cyber kill? Does it say they can only check their own kills?

I still think that neither the Master nor Dr Who would be recruitable. Bea loves her some civvies, and having the two major power roles that we are aware of recruitable by an unknown third role would seem rather unbalanced. And as for the notion of a civ recruiter, I have only seen a civ recruit scenario once, in mine & juliets game, Dogma (I was responsible for balance in that game, and I was a fail, Mafia Hosting Lesson One, never give a civ a recruit as a prize) and the civvies ran rampant in that game, becasue it basically connected two civ bts groups. Bea was one of the civvies in that group, and while she won, she also knew how glaringly unfair that was. Large swaths of civs with BTS kind of eliminates the one major benefit the Mafia holds, that of being an informed minority. When the majority becomes informed as well, it's a baddie bloodbath.

Long Con wrote:Why is that assumption being made?

Cause Epi said so?

Really, Epi? She can't be bad cause she didn't target you?

He's not gonna tell you.

So it might be hard/scary to make false role claims (unless the recruiter is still recruiting and Donna is a recruit) which makes me, at this point, kinda go BOTD re Faraday.

Linki Night Snowy

MovingPictures07 wrote:

S~V~S wrote:

Chris wrote:I find it difficult to believe that the secret recruiting role would be able to be killed so easily...

It happens, though. Remember the super secret role in Six Feet Under died like day one or two. That was why you inherited the kill. There are a lot of built in death saves in this game. Not everyone can have one But yeah, I get your point, though.

Bass not being recruited made me think that the recruiter being gone was a possibility as well. But until we know that for sure, i would prefer to operate as if the recruiter is still out there.

This is a good point though.

S~V~S, what do you think? Do you believe DF? Do you have any reads on Blooper and Dom?

Blooper is being blendy~ she is not posting much, and when she is it is wall o'text. I read the walls o'text, and it feels more like a "story" then a post. She does not "feel" very civvie to e, based on her other games. As for Dom, I have somewhat of a blind spot. I tend to trust him, then I get paranoid that he is a baddie standing in my blind spot. For a little bit earlier today, he got me paranoid; he had that peevish bitchy baddie thing going on a bit. But then he sounded more like himself. So my opinion on Dom is fairly meaningless.

I tend to discount role hints, but in this game, with ways to pinpoint down roles to some extent, and a civ dead check (does anyone have a belief that Donna may be dead?) no one saying, Um, no way, makes me somewhat inclined to at least think about the possibility. Does anyone have arguments against it? Or thin it may have been someone else that was the Ood?

Linki~

Chris wrote:I find it difficult to believe that the secret recruiting role would be able to be killed so easily...

It happens, though. Remember the super secret role in Six Feet Under died like day one or two. That was why you inherited the kill. There are a lot of built in death saves in this game. Not everyone can have one But yeah, I get your point, though.

Bass not being recruited made me think that the recruiter being gone was a possibility as well. But until we know that for sure, i would prefer to operate as if the recruiter is still out there.

Fucking autocorrect, I am an unrecruited civ.

And your question isn't important Chris. It is just another example of you trying to twist facts to your theory.

And as Creeping Death I was frustrated over Epi, not you. You can ask him, we discussed it in the mod forum once. What frustrated me there was his point about not taking long enough for dinner, so I had to be lying. And that would have frustrated me good or bad. Anyone who played the lightning game last night saw me as a VERY frustrated civ.

Like I said, you want me to be bad and are twisting things to make them for your theory.

I am an in recruited civ, you can take that to the bank.

I know what that role says

Sarah Jane's role says "targeted by aliens', not specifically NKs Chris.

I don't know what to say to that Dom. I have the role I have, MP had the role he had, and I guess he checked me early. Chris has been coming at me from every direction, and it is frustrating, tbh. I am not recruited and I am not the recruiter and I said so at every opportunity while the person I believe to be the LD was alive, and since then as well.

If someone is targeted with a night power what would that have to do with votes? It seemed obvious to me

I am sorry you are frustrated and annoyed, but that is neither my fault nor does it mean I am bad. I am not bad,; i am a civvie.

No one else thought that?

Thanks Juliets.

The public part of Mickeys role says if he is targeted a coin will be flipped. What else would that mean other than pretty much the same thing as Sarah Jane?

That part isn't a secret, and I think it is really obvious.

I am not the recruiter. Regardless of what Chris says.

I am on phone and there are so many posts, what exactly is the question?

You are over analyzing and twisting things so that they fit your pet theories and preconceived notions.

Dom wrote:Chris, the most interesting bit of that SVS business is that she knew Mickeys secrets before they were public. Very strange indeed

I did? Can you refresh me? And what "SVS Business" are you speaking of?

I did not know any secrets, and my role doesn't have any. So not sure what you mean.

Linki, no I didn't , you are grasping at anything that will make mebsd and you are just flat wrong. I think my original wording was clear enough, if awkward.

Actually, i thought it was kinda funny, since all the choices were John Barrowman

Yeah, there was no stop, only a switch.

Well, it does not say he was recruited, so there is that.