The Syndicate

MovingPictures07 wrote:Well, I personally loved the idea of "breaking" the conventions of mafia by enabling everyone to win, but I figured some would be against it.

I am shocked though that the possibility for INH's plan slipped by Logan, haha. I thought for sure he had intended it this way.

Awesome game, Llama, thanks for it!

Yeah, but we would have to trust everyone to make it work, and that could NOT work, you know? The main losers would be the animals if someone chose to break the plan, we were vulnerable & sitting ducks. Once too many people became enamored of the plan, it would have been impossible to change direction.

I thought the plan was the worst idea ever, but I did not want to get into a pissing match with INH or MP over it, so I just rolled over.

Thanks for hosting Llama, very interesting concepts.

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Dom wrote:So... does anyone know what MM was?

I do.

As do I.

He is a Newt!

Just you wait. I will become a marmot again. One of these days...

Not on my watch

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A Person wrote:Let's still kill me, ok? Vote for me in this lynch.

I would except that I'm dead now and I'd be breaking rules.

that's ok, normally I don't need to do much convincing to get lynched. :P

I think I broke a rule anyway. Sorry Logan.

it's beginning to look a lot like Christmas

Everywhere you go~

I hope this all works out and all you guys win

It wasn't for me.

Linki~ why does that matter? Hopefully people stick to your plan.

It isn't just education~ ever hear of a DCU? Directional control unit, aka steering wheel.

And I am at peace and ready to go. Ooooommmm.



We were on this path when MP outed himself, it was too late to turn back and discuss alternatives at that point. Rash, but it is what it is. Lets try and stay on this path, since we kinda have no choice at this point. Good Luck Animals

It isn't really "playing", is it? I mean, I like to win, but I like to work for it, too. I am missing how this is "fun", you know? So by volunteering I am essentially quitting a game I sm not really enjoying, while (hopefully) helping those who want an easy, clean win achieve it. It isn't for me, but everyone is different.

No worries JC. Maybe llama did hope this would happen, he made it easy to figure out and to implement it.

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S~V~S wrote:I am OK volunteering to be lynched.

If only I wasn't roleblocked, you'd be dead alr... WAIT! That's not what I meant to say!!

triceratopzeuhl wrote:Did SVS say she was an animal?

OOOO eeeee oooooo ooooooo

Indeed I am an animal. I am OK volunteering to be lynched. Sorry Llama, I know you loved this game.

Psychiatric help is expensive in Finalnd, k?

I dunno, bleach her hair a bit, some blue eye shadow.... I can see it.

Assuming harmony, and having access to bear chow so bears don't kill goats etc.

Dogs
Goats
Sheep
Ducks
Cats
Foxes
Wolves
Bears
Hummingbirds
Iguanas

I went with Tiger Island, for the Animals

I just realized how that sounds, I am not just saying i am an animal to say it, I really AM an animal

OK, I think that "winning" by not sending in night actions and volunteering to be lynched is not really *winning*, or even playing, tbh. If i wanted to trust y'all, I would not be playing Mafia.

So I am gonna say I am an animal, and volunteer to be the next sacrifice.

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And again, this beautiful llama you see in your dreams is not a reality. Read the Day 1 post. Your strategy is in big trouble if a player or two are modkilled.

Unless he's a fella

But if six animals and one fella die, the poor animals lose.

That's not a risk I'm willing to take. The Animal Sanctuary Squad should agree with this.

Sometimes I think you and I speak different languages; you always seem to misconstrue my meaning (and I know I have done so with you, as well).

What I meant here was that if INH is a fella, he won't care if the plan fails. If it works, yay, we all win. If it doesn't, yet for the fellas, some animals are dead. Volunteering for the slaughter, yet. So if he is a fella, he would not care if his strategy works or not.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

And again, this beautiful llama you see in your dreams is not a reality. Read the Day 1 post. Your strategy is in big trouble if a player or two are modkilled.

Unless he's a fella

Not interested in a thread where not going along with, or fully understanding, the plan is cause for attack. I agree with Mongoose in that i will believe it when i see it. It's TOO easy; it can't be as straightforward as it seems.

People sign up for games hoping to play, INH. I would rather have fun & lose than vote for volunteers, but it is what it is, I guess. I already voted for the animal volunteer. C'ya.

If MP is not an animal claiming he is would be rather a quixotic thing to do. MP may be many things, but I don';t think "quixotic" is one of them.

Mongoose wrote:Sincere question -- is there a reason y'all are voting so early instead of watching how things play out over the next day?

Did you not read the plan? Most boring Mafia game ever but everyone wins. I have my doubts, it is TOO easy (read the win con's and rules) but worth a try until someone uses their powers OR there is a modkill OR an animal doesn't volunteer.

So basically so long as someone volunteers and there are no NKs or modkills, in theory it should work.

Voting MP~ going with the plan unless/until something happens to disrupt it. And MM, it was INHs' strategy; MP picked up his ball and ran with it.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:We are making a big mistake today. If there is an island on fire, why would we want to be over it?

Since Fire Island is near the Hamptons, and both are Rock Star style party places, I presume that the song is about this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_Island

Not about an island on fire.

Yeah, I just Googled them, and none of them seem to have any specific bias that i can see. It was worth a try, we want to avoid anything that may upset the balance, and my guess is that there are things that will do so. Or llama would not have made it so easy. Having that specific rule about outing worries me, tbh.

Linki~ those videos just froze my ancient laptop for a minute, lol. My sign from above to log off for the night

So what are the songs about?

Maybe we want to avoid songs that strongly benefit one group over the others in order to maintain balance?

You know the songs, what are they about?

Linki, why not discuss it? Do you have something better to discuss? Since we seem to have this game wrapped up, and it will be rather a dull game, i think. Every day each person need only make one post. X person says, "I am an animal", and everyone else says, "Votes X"

Juliets, it means we kill NO Guys or Gals, just animals. All win conditions will be met that way.

I picked Fire Island based on geographical considerations. I love the beaches on Fire Island, and spent some summers there as a kid. I live really close to it.

Linki~ x many

No, so long as there is no kill, I agree. The whole outing thing goes against the grain, but so long as there are no lynch mistakes or night kills, the non animals need not reveal, right?

And yeah, a game where EVERYONE wins might be refreshing

If we could make it work, I would be OK with it. But the killers would have to not kill, and we have no way of knowing that will happen until they ... don't kill. The vote manipulators should not use their powers either.

It seems almost TOO easy, but looking over the win cons, I don't see any reason it would not work; even down to team outing being specifically OKed by the host. Although it will be harder once teams start getting BTSC, and Trice makes a good point. Plus I just have an ingrained bias against outing, even if it is allowed

But a plan that allows everyone to win is an attractive one.

I am going to vote for Fire Island.

So we are allowed to say that?

INH, that could certainly work, especially since team claiming is OK, but then we would have to believe claims, and everyone would have to agree to do it.

I am inclined to pick Fire Island, i am about 5 miles away from it. It's pretty in the winter, when it isn't swarming with greasy, shiny people sporting tans. I don't know about the Eno-related aspects of the choices.

Does "hack" = pretentious poseur?