The Syndicate

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2019 11:03 pm The mafia didn’t kill me because they loved me like a brother

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2019 9:03 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2019 8:44 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2019 8:36 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2019 4:45 pm Half of our game here was linking ourselves to the wrong people on purpose. At the end of Day 5 when people were tacking RDW with nutella and I, I was just like excellent, my pretties

Why?

When RDW dies, Nutella looks better.

When Nutella does, RDW is set up for a mislynch.

@bold how?

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2019 8:36 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2019 4:45 pm Half of our game here was linking ourselves to the wrong people on purpose. At the end of Day 5 when people were tacking RDW with nutella and I, I was just like excellent, my pretties

Why?

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2019 8:31 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2019 8:23 pm

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2019 4:11 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2019 12:05 pm N1: Jay is jked and there’s no kill
D6: Jay is not being lynched for some reason.

Gg mafia. You earned it.

He was also doctor protected, but yeah, I should have revisited it. Wasn't there also a roleblocker in the game somewhere, but they didn't claim, or I don't remember them claiming. oops

Jailkeeper would have protected him regardless.

My point is if the mafia tried to kill Jay N1, why did they not try to kill him on the following 4 nights?

Because they didn’t try to kill him N1 either.

Mafia would have thought that Jay was being protected again. It makes sense and that's usually the case. Besides, mafia rarely attack the same player they had a failed kill on for a second time.

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2019 4:11 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2019 12:05 pm N1: Jay is jked and there’s no kill
D6: Jay is not being lynched for some reason.

Gg mafia. You earned it.

He was also doctor protected, but yeah, I should have revisited it. Wasn't there also a roleblocker in the game somewhere, but they didn't claim, or I don't remember them claiming. oops

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 11:06 pm My least favorite role is the vigilante by the way. I cannot use it effectively. I shot Jack and knew it was stupid but I felt if I didn't, I'd have him on my ass all game.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 11:21 pm I also wanted to get Night-1-kill vengeance on Jack for Shockheaded Peter.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 7:43 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 7:42 pm NOVASELINENEVER

great

Dragomir wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 7:05 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:10 pm @Dragomir yesterday you were desperate for DDL to get lynched. What has changed?

Don't really care who gets lynched as long as it's Owner, DDL, or Jack. All 3 are scum to me. I think there's a little more indicating Ultra and Owner being buddies than the rest though.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 6:06 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 5:52 pm I have just under 2 hours, 4% battery and a date.

@JaggedJimmyJay
@Owner of a Lonely Heart
@speedchuck
@MacDougall
@novaselinenever
@Gemma
@Dragon D. Luffy

Gimmie a sentence or two or direct to a post or two to tell me who to vote for. Thx.

5 of the 6 you quoted are voting for the same person, the last one is not voting amongst the two leading wagons.

If you're looking for guidance in that pool, the answer is clear.

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 12:27 am [VOTE: Luxurious] aubergine

Also, @Sloonei can you fix the poll so that I can actually vote for Luxurious. Currently, Luxurious' name isn't even in the poll, which kind of puts me at a stand still.

I did some reading when Ultra flipped scum. These posts are relatively close to each other and guided my night action decision. I believe Gemma's claim.

Luxurious wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:43 am

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:53 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:14 pm I dig your Ultra stuff, Speed. I can see a baddie Ultra using me as a compass to navigate through early game. His prod for reads kind of felt iffy to me, like I was getting a vibe that he actually cared what those were lol.

Not sure if I care for this post too much.

If Nova is bad, Ultra would not be with him.

lf Nova is good, that doesn't necessarily confirm or deny Ultra's alignment.

Why dont you like this post

I think scum are generally attracted to posts that either defend their partner or posts that they could potentially later use to post against someone else. So seeing me not crazy about their stance on Ultra thinking about pushing on nova, would likely maybe peek a teammate's interest in hearing more about why I think that.

Luxurious wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:45 am

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:56 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:52 pm

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:09 pm *is temporary voting no lynch*

I still want blood this day phase (so I'll be voting for someone else) so that I'll know if my reads are on the right track or if I need to reassess things.

Okay cool but like why even bother?

I didn't like leaving my vote on JJJ. I haven't decided who I think is scummiest now that JJJ is off the table.

Spoiler: show

I saw that wrong. (no comment)

I like trying to be in the here and now, but it can't always happen,

Why was JJJ on the table???? What has he done that has changed your mind besides post multiple times in a row?

Like why do you suddenly have this change of heart? I need more details

Luxurious shows concern for why I'm completely saying JJJ is no longer a target to be voted for.

Luxurious wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:47 am

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:45 am Ultra is kind of guilty of exactly what he accused Jay of. I don't care much how he branded the vote saying it reeks of "chainsaw defense" before he actually delved into it. Feels like he's detached from the suspicions and he's following a textbook on how to play mafia and build cases lol.

Have you played with Ultra before? Are these the suspicions he has or the suspicions against him?

Luxurious seems generally curious about the well being of Ultra.

Luxurious wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:52 am

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:50 am

Luxurious wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:47 am

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:45 am Ultra is kind of guilty of exactly what he accused Jay of. I don't care much how he branded the vote saying it reeks of "chainsaw defense" before he actually delved into it. Feels like he's detached from the suspicions and he's following a textbook on how to play mafia and build cases lol.

Have you played with Ultra before? Are these the suspicions he has or the suspicions against him?

We've played once before, but we've crossed path a few times (player/host in each other's games). I'm referring to his suspicion of Jay.

Any chance you can quick link me to a post (or a few)

Luxurious wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:54 am

Gemma wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 12:09 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 12:04 am

Gemma wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:32 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 10:44 pm @Gemma

Why should I move my vote off you?

if you scumread me you shouldn't obv

Oh so I should mislynch you?

whichever response gets you to scumread me more

Okay Gemma I have officially decided that I dont wanna lynch you today

[VOTE: owner] aubergine

Here's Lux voting for me yesterday. They end up voting for Ultra some point, but I think there's a chance that they bussed Ultra.


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Today Stuff

Luxurious wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 8:38 pm

Gemma wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 8:31 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 8:25 pm

Gemma wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 8:21 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 8:19 pm

Gemma wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 8:14 pm I saved JJJ last night.

Did you get a mod-confirmation?

No, but I've never seen a doctor role with mod confirmation that save was successful.

It's not a thing here as well. I'm asking 'cause there are 4 roles in the OP that could have messed with the kill, so I'm not sure why you're coming out and why you're sure.

You misunderstood. I was only claiming my night action, not implying that I thought I definitely stopped the kill. I claimed because it could be relevant information and I think my role is the least important and most straightforward of any that are in the setup right now. If someone blocked a scumread, for example, they could think that they stopped the kill, etc. Seems optimal to just out my info with only one save left.

How is it relevant? Like in what world? I’m genuinely curious please walk me through this

Confirming that JJJ might be nearly confirmed town is big win for town. Upon death, we only see alignment and not roles that aren't in the game any longer. JJJ was already in a lot of town circles, I feel though. So having this information is helpful at least imo to overall solve the game.

I guess I'm wondering why you (Lux) are shocked about this information being shared.

Luxurious wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 9:08 pm
Okay I’ll explain to you why your answer is awful

1) Nova was a wagon yesterday, mafia would expect for town to lynch Nova eventually due to wagonomics

2)In the off chance mafia, DOESNT, expect this, they suck

3)JJJ was the highest poster, with Ultra as a scum read. While he voted Gemma, his vote ultimately ended up on a mafia.

4) While Nova DID push Ultra the hardest, JJJ wasnt at risk of being lynched, bringing it back to wagonomics of Nova

So like, why the fuck would mafia kill Nova > JJJ

Since JJJ was the highest poster is that why you targeted him in the night?


TL:DR

I have Luxurious targeting JJJ last night.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 11:36 pm

Ultra wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 6:50 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:37 pm

Ultra wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:31 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:00 pm Enough with the pleasantries! It's time to fight.

How's everyone doing?

Doing fine. How's about you? What's your story?

I'm the rep from The Millennium Forums shamelessly using your mafia board as a stepping stone on my way to become the ultimate cambodian basket weaving forum mafia player. I know MP7 and a couple of other people here I'm forgetting atm

This is a horseshit exchange.

There are 100 new people on this site, and Ultra was the only one to whom Mac said, "What's your story?"

Look at every other exchange Mac had.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:36 am I really like these new people. They have personalities, and confidence... it's almost like they are real functioning humans.

He didn't interact with any of these new people...except Ultra.

He's mafia.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 4:47 pm I'm at work right now and won't be able to come through with my thoughts on the recent pages for until a few hours. Just one thing though, this wagon on me is bad and reeks of an attempt to save Soneji. RDW looks even more bad in my eyes.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 11:36 pm

Ultra wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 6:50 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:37 pm

Ultra wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:31 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:00 pm Enough with the pleasantries! It's time to fight.

How's everyone doing?

Doing fine. How's about you? What's your story?

I'm the rep from The Millennium Forums shamelessly using your mafia board as a stepping stone on my way to become the ultimate cambodian basket weaving forum mafia player. I know MP7 and a couple of other people here I'm forgetting atm

This is a horseshit exchange.

There are 100 new people on this site, and Ultra was the only one to whom Mac said, "What's your story?"

Look at every other exchange Mac had.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:36 am I really like these new people. They have personalities, and confidence... it's almost like they are real functioning humans.

He didn't interact with any of these new people...except Ultra.

He's mafia.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:38 pm Epi told me in the other games scum chat (he is hosting) that he wants to be in a team that acts as one and defends each other.

Epi defended DDL, laid off ultra. He's all of a sudden producing civ clears. This is exactly how he said he wanted to play as Mafia.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:30 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:28 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:27 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:26 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:24 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:23 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:19 pm

I don't believe these are legitimate reads. This is just random names you picked out of a barrel.

Why?

You are not the sort of player who gives town passes to 5 players on day 2. You are full of horse manure.

So...you expect me to adhere to a script.

Okay.

You have been an antagonistic civilian for the years I have known you and all of a sudden you are civ clearing people. This is not town Epi.

And what do I do when I am mafia?

Set up wifom defences like you're trying to do.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:19 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 9:26 pm Civilians:

Lux
DDL
Owner
JJJ
Gemma

Cool.

I don't believe these are legitimate reads. This is just random names you picked out of a barrel.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:13 pm

Luxurious wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:09 pm

Spoiler: show

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:04 pm You can see below Ultra just subtly pushing Jay off of DDL while at the same time buttering him up. Why did Ultra feel the need to make the first post? The second seems to be hard defending of DDL while accusing Jay of the very same. It's quite masterful.

Ultra wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 7:47 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2019 3:09 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2019 3:08 pm Yeah okay.

We got one.

Agreed that this entrance was awkward, especially in hindisight with his no lynch proposition

But then you proceeded to shade like 3 other people so I'm going to ask you how serious you are about this slot.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 12:03 pm DDL taking opportunities to answer soft questions and discredit early effort before it exists. bad

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 12:01 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:02 am What is the point of D0 if we can't lynch anyone?

With this mindset you ensure that it cannot have a point. bad

Eh. D0 isn't useless, but it does present a lot of opportunity to shade people over NAI.

By the way, your powerpoint is unintentionally hilarious.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:35 pm

rundontwalk2 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:04 pm

Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:02 pm
The way you talked before made it sound like you’d done something??? Does that mean no matter your alignment you dont post well??

I mean, regardless of alignment I shit post. That is my modus operandi. Such that JJJ can't possibly have a town read on me yet, given I would do this regardless of what I am.

So are you trying to say that he's pocketing you?

What do you think, Dragomir?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 6:40 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 6:15 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:56 pm Hmm... we dont have any information to work on yet, so we should probably no lynch d1.

[VOTE: Speedchuck] aubergine

[VOTE: Dragon D. Luffy] aubergine

This reeks of chainsaw defense.

More examples.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:29 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 8:02 pm

Ultra wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 7:58 pmPossibly, by you.

I don't need "possibly". What are you referring to?

Ultra wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 7:58 pmDefend someone by attacking their accuser.

Since you're here elaborate on that vote

I think DDL got snagged by a booby trap. No lynches are horrendous, and I thought it looked evident that speedchuck wasn't serious in his recommendation.

Eh the thing is that I kind of see a reasoning for it. Na.ely this game has a bunch of cops and they all act in Night 1/2. So No Lynch would reduce the chance we lynch our own cops and hopefully give us a headstart in ability usage. It reminded me of the Jester Game we do in NF.

Of course the price we pay for that is a civ night kill, so I'm not entirely sure the move is profitable. Would like to see a discussion on it, though.

This one is good because it also contains some dribble placeholder text about NF that adds nothing which is similar to something Jay literally caught me for in the other game. Overexplaining.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:20 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:19 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:17 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:16 pm

This isn't fucking jeopardy. You are supposed to provide something other than questions and answers.

You know in the other game when I was trying to find evidence to make a fake case on Nova I read his ISO and noticed he asked a ton of questions.

Nice.

I don't care about what you tried to do as scum.

So you are going to disregard the fact that I made an observation that Nova asks lots of questions in a game he was confirmed town in?

Above you can see DDL went hard at Nova yesterday. I think he ended with his vote there.

Ultra then gets lynched making Nova nigh unlynchable. What would you do if you were DDL and you were Mafia?

Then what would you do if a townie came out and you see them mistakenly townclear Jay of all people.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 8:32 pm

Gemma wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 8:14 pm I saved JJJ last night.

Or someone roleblocked the killer.

I think that DDL and co. shot at Nova and I think DDL made this post to prevent a towncore forming around Jay.

Every time I relook at the role list these kinda theories seem more and more plausible.

Why does DDL start to form a towncore around Nova then? What does he gain by saving someone he just tried to kill? DDL couldnt have predicted Nova coming in and voting JJJ off the bat like that.

Why does Nova's vote on JJJ need to be a thing to justify his behaviour towards Nova?

Stage 1 - Fail to mislynch Nova
Stage 2 - Lose a scum teammate who had been hard defending you that simultaneously makes Nova look amaze
Stage 3 - Shoot at Nova and fail
Stage 4 - ... continue to try to attack Nova?

He feels like he has no choice but to flip his position on Nova. But then when he sees Jay getting incorrectly town cleared... that signals disaster.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 4:20 pm Jack, are you re-reading through the whole thread?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:11 pm I'm voting MacDougall. He's full of shit.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 9:56 pm Hi Jack.

I have voted for you.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 9:48 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 9:43 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 9:42 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 9:05 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 8:26 pm First of all, you protected JJJ over Nova? Second of all, how do you know the heal was successful? Could be more reasons for why nobody died last night aside from you protecting your target.

I still sus Owner and DDL pretty heavily. RDW is someone I'm taking interest in as well. I'm finna go back and read Ultra's interactions.

This whole post bugs me, particularly the highlighted bit. Did you try to kill me instead of nova to avoid this result?

The hell is this question?

I don't know why Gemma is required to protect nova.

I didn't say she was required to pick him. I just find Nova a better pick than you to protect.

Now, I'll be gone till morning.

My reads. Owner, DDL, and Jack are scum. Also, I feel sad how y'all are ignoring what I pointed out about Ultra and Owner being buddies.

Luxurious wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 9:45 pm Current reads:

[town]
Nova, speed, jack, ddl

[probably town]
Epi, jjj, gemma

[everyone else]

[scum]
Owner

Luxurious wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 9:42 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 9:40 pm

Luxurious wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 9:38 pm Didnt they also recently make Captain america into a nazis???

Do you know what Wikipedia is?

According to my discord group i apparently dont even know what the color red is

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 9:29 pm Interactions of Ultra and Dragon D. Luffy

Spoiler: show

Ultra wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 7:47 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 12:03 pm DDL taking opportunities to answer soft questions and discredit early effort before it exists. bad

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 12:01 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:02 am What is the point of D0 if we can't lynch anyone?

With this mindset you ensure that it cannot have a point. bad

Eh. D0 isn't useless, but it does present a lot of opportunity to shade people over NAI.

By the way, your powerpoint is unintentionally hilarious.

This one can actually be tacked into the previous Dragomir interaction too. I threw poop at the two Drags and Ultra responded by suggesting that I was shading people over "NAI". It's implicitly defensive of DDL and Dragomir.

Spoiler: show

Ultra wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 8:09 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 8:02 pm

Ultra wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 7:58 pmPossibly, by you.

I don't need "possibly". What are you referring to?

Ultra wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 7:58 pmDefend someone by attacking their accuser.

Since you're here elaborate on that vote

I think DDL got snagged by a booby trap. No lynches are horrendous, and I thought it looked evident that speedchuck wasn't serious in his recommendation.

I think holding someone accountable for saying Day Zeros are less valuable is a bit pushy, especially considering they in fact are. Now, if someone was using "Wait, I said that D0, it doesn't count!" as a defense, or as a reason to dismiss a case, that is categorically scummy. But outside of that context, there's no apparent scum motive to stating the obvious, other than perhaps appearing blendy.

Reaction posts can also carry a scum motive, so this sounds like TMI on speedchuck

This post is worded in such a way that I struggle to follow it, fake or not. Either way it's again an implicit defense of DDL by way of shitting on me.

Spoiler: show

Ultra wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:19 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 4:39 am

Ultra wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 8:41 pm @novaselinenever

Reads please

I'm currently beefing with Rundon'twalk and Soneji. I'm not really buying the formers concern with Jay sticking him as good early on, and the whole "he knows I play the same as both alignments" is whack. That has never stopped people from forming read, let alone gut ones. If what he claims is true and Jay knows him well, he should also know Jay well and that flinging poo early on alongside sticking people with an alignment based on first impression is his bread and butter. I think I talked about Soneji's entrance sometime earlier.

The whole no lynch thing is hilarious, and I'm more intrigued by DDL jumping on Speed than the latter making that claim. I took it as him messing around, 'cause I don't believe for a second that he's serious about it.

I can't say I'm a fan of you calling out the vote on DDL, nor throwing around fancy words like "chainsaw defense". Feels like over-compensating

If that was a bait post it's a pretty bad one. A player with low presence makes a very bad suggestion and then leaves. I can't reflexively blame someone for voting for that. I will blame a player for jumping on that player without explanation.

Another defense, this time explicit. Ultra was comfortable planting his flag in DDL's camp early and often. My immediate interpretation is that he wanted to capitalize on my "chainsaw defense" thing as the origin of a case by discrediting my suspicion of a guy who would eventually be shown as civilian -- an extended sort of TMI. Decent for DDL.

There are a few other mentions of DDL. They appear incidental to me as they're just associated with his attacks against me. Moving on.

I don't see any mentions of Ultra by DDL.

~~~

Conclusion: Have your dollop of WIFOM -- it's a consistent defensive message by Ultra on behalf of DDL, sometimes implied and eventually explicitly stated. I am inclined to say this reflects well enough on DDL. I was Ultra's punching bag, and those punches can be directly tied to my attack on DDL; it seems as though he knew I was wrong.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 9:26 pm Civilians:

Lux
DDL
Owner
JJJ
Gemma

Cool.

Luxurious wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 9:19 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 9:14 pm

Luxurious wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 9:08 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 8:59 pm

Luxurious wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 8:58 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 8:43 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 8:41 pm

Why is Nova super solid? I’ve played two days of another game and read most of Nutella’s champs D1 since this thread closed.

It's not like I changed my mind about the questions thing being fishy, but vote analysis > how many questions the guy is asking.

Nova was the name of the Ultra wagon. He pushed it more than everyone else. I bet he's the one mafia tried to kill tonight.

Why do you think that??? You were voting Nova at eod i’m kinda curious as to why you think mafia would kill Nova > JJJ

Cuz anyone who lynches nova is out of their mind.

While we are discussing the Jay lynch as of right now.

Okay I’ll explain to you why your answer is awful

1) Nova was a wagon yesterday, mafia would expect for town to lynch Nova eventually due to wagonomics

2)In the off chance mafia, DOESNT, expect this, they suck

3)JJJ was the highest poster, with Ultra as a scum read. While he voted Gemma, his vote ultimately ended up on a mafia.

4) While Nova DID push Ultra the hardest, JJJ wasnt at risk of being lynched, bringing it back to wagonomics of Nova

So like, why the fuck would mafia kill Nova > JJJ

Paraphrasing my great fellow dragon.

"I don't care what happened last DP".

What I mean is, the Ultra flip changes everything. Nova's push on Ultra was strong. Jay's push on Ultra was not necessarily that strong. NJova is not going to be lynched in this eon. Someone who's not going to be lynched needs to be NK'd.

So yeah mafia DDL would totally shoot nova on Night 1. Maybe mafia Luxurious wouldn't, but that's why I used the word "bet" the first time I said that.

Okay respect i see it.

Add this to your formula: The only “notable” thing ie. Nova’s whole case against Ultra, was Ultra being a hypocrite and doing everything he claimed scum!JJJ did. In what world does that make them aligned together?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 9:17 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 9:01 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 8:58 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 8:37 pm Epi looks a little fishy for trying to piggyback on my nova case.

I didn't do anything of the sort.

You basically repeated what I said with more words, while saying I looked good in the following post.

I can refute this in one of two ways.

Either I go back and show you my posts that said I voted nova because my two civilians (you and Owner) were voting nova, and then I looked through nova's posts and decided I would keep my vote there...

...Or I just tell you that if I were bad, I would have no need to put you in my pretty little pocket. You're lynch bait, and you know it.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 12:38 pm I have no idea how to feel about Jack rn.

Gemma wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 9:09 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 9:03 pm

Gemma wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 8:14 pm I saved JJJ last night.

That you've blurted this out promptly despite the ambiguity of a non-kill in this setup strikes me as a genuine instinct.

This setup is honestly crap lol.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 8:51 pm If y'all actually sussing Nova after what he did yesterday, y'all gotta go.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 10:24 am I'm trying to figure out where Dragomir's head is at but its a blur. He was tunneling on me. Then he decided he didn't care anymore and only about Owner. The he made that horrible "today is a new day" post to explain it. Then he names three people and says he doesn't care who is lynched as long as it's one of the three. Then he ignores Owner's ability post and keeps tunneling on her. Then someone calls him out on that and he goes back to tunneling me.

It's a lot of "don't cares", and very little sign that he is actually trying to look at multiple people and solve the game. He pick a few lucky ones to tunnel and is trying to skate by the game on those tunnels. It doesn't feel town at all.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 11:01 am Someone talk to me about Jesse

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 3:30 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 3:30 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 3:28 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 3:28 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 10:37 am [VOTE: Jack] aubergine

You're literally voting for me for not being funny enough?

I'll have you know, I'm multigaming and I've been super funny today, just not here.

That just supports my read though

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 3:28 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 3:28 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 10:37 am [VOTE: Jack] aubergine

You're literally voting for me for not being funny enough?