The Syndicate

dunya wrote: ↑Thu May 14, 2020 8:43 pm And Jack, I can't read you for shit. I admit it.

Shame Tony had to get lynched for you to admit it.

Idk how you guys changed Dunya’s dream like that but it was really effective.

Well played, scumbos.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 7:13 pm

Russtifinko wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 6:35 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 6:33 pm Play Banjo Kazooie/Tooie, guys. I'm here having fun discussing flavor because those games are really that good.

Is there a way to on Switch/PC?

I've been interested by them but never got around to it.

No idea, but I happen to live in the one country where piracy is not illegal so I've never thought much about it.

Yeah, I never pirate things cause that’s illegal. If only I lived in Brazil.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 6:00 pm

Thought yourselves free of my rhyme?
Think again, stupid!

FYI, this doesn't count cause I replaced in.

dunya wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 5:11 pm i want to vote for speed because jack is at least making a real effort here and speed isnt and that's not fair, but i just compared again tony in coronavirus and tony here and it's a whole different character imo. i dunno if its the post count restriction or the fact he wasn't playing with jack, but tony in this game was way more reserved, especially for someone who was a vanilla townie.

i also see mp moved to speed. damn i wish he had posts. he's probably super frustrated with me atm. i'm sorry mp

Don't you want to continue doing this tomorrow, too?

If you flip Speed, you can keep telling me how scummy I am no matter how Speed flips. If you flip me, we don't get to play anymore.



I personally hate post count restrictions because if you are allowed to make 50 posts, I make 20 and then shut up because I don't want to go over. One time I kept posting after getting daykilled or hammered and felt like a massive jerk.

G-Man wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 3:52 pm Assuming that nutella split the difference, then it means only one of speed, Tony/Jack, and TH is bad. That's a pretty good group to bury a teammate in, because there are posting and personality tendencies in all three of them to keep people wondering.

I think this is a very good assumption to make.

Btw I'm not the vigilante. I'm vanilla. There won't be a last second cfd over that.

Idk if I'd really keep DDL in the POE after Speed and I are resolved.

He's not setting off my radar, accepting that I'm still missing 7 or so pages.

Not that people listen to dead townies but I'm just sayin.

I'm not saying Dunya is town. I'm seriously sheeping people for saying she's antialigned with Nutella (they were teamed in Fire Emblem for useful reference).

I'm saying don't read too much into what she does today to determine her alignment. As long as it's me vs Speed, it's basically a free day for her because as soon as I flip town, everyone's gonna go "Welp, I guess it's Speed" and if she's buddies with Speed, it doesn't really do her any good to keep him alive exactly one more day or to buss him. It doesn't matter at all.

I'd honestly say the same for any player's voting decision between me and Speed if Speed is lynched tomorrow and flips bad. It's just the most predicable outcome in the world so anything wolves are doing now is WIFOM in anticipation of that unless they're trying hard to take Speed out of consideration.

Why the hell is Dunya both teamed with me according to [mention]Turnip Head[/mention] and Speed according to [mention]Russtifinko[/mention] but also consensus town?

FWIW, I know Dunya isn't scum with me and with Speed probably dead in the water and Dunya being garbo at reading me, her pushes on me over Speed aren't really alignment indicative.

If you're going to lynch me, it's important to be like DDL and admit you're actually lynching Tony.

Two hours from now...

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 8:37 am I like how more people are jumping on Sloonei since I called it first, but at the same time I wonder if there isn't some opportunism here. Feels like one of those early Jay/MP wagons we tend to have in this site for no reason.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 8:50 pm I realise that I have failed to include Luffy in my power rankings. Let's put him in the town pile.

Wow easiest town read I've ever gotten.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 9:26 pm Yeah I played against him in Assassin's Creed where I was bad and he was town, so I know exactly what he's capable of. He's just posting reads lists, that won't help him find baddies, it just makes him look like a fun guy.

If it were just town/mafia reads maybe, but he's saying a lot of interesting stuff. I think it's fine.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 8:44 am Ok so dunya and MP are acting like classic supatown duya and MP, not enough for me to be able to locktown them but enough for me to want to leave them alone for the time being.

Epi's case on dunya is weird af but it could be the normal epi thing.

I feel cool about Mac, too.

Russ feels very honest too.

Everyone else is whatever.

No idea who to vote for. I'm tempted to park my vote on this juicy TH wagon that seems to be starting to form. I miss super happy and casual TH (though he did make some posts like that in D0). Mac could be onto something that triggered TH is bad.

But I see nutella and TSP on it? Neither of them have yet to earn places my civ pile. DO NOT WANT.

I think these posts from DDL look fine.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 11:32 am It's establishing pressure Mr. Dougall. So what if I sheeped reads? I wanted to see where they led. I still maintain my own opinions as evidenced by my unvotes.

You're entrenching your read of me by characterizing my play in the way you are. I think your other reads look like a scummer's reads; I think your suspicion of me in particular is opportunistic.

I think this is a fair defense against Mac's accusation that TH is sheeping reads instead of hunting. It reads honest to me.

Btw I loathe these spoiler mass reply posts from MP. I know it's not his fault. Minimize posts and you'll maximize individual post density. I'm going to assume MP is town from his claim and take everything he says in them at face value without quoting them because they're a mess. Mostly. There's some defense of Nutella and underlining of DDL's scumlean on Nutella. Glad MP's townread on TH's early posts matches my own.

Dunya also throws out an early townread on TH.

*refresh*

dunya wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 12:17 pm [VOTE: speedchuck] aubergine

i'm not playing the game to defend someone who isn't here to defend himself tbh. i feel like that's a shit position to have to be in.

dunya wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 10:43 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 9:53 am I'm not sticking to my reads. I'm negotiating to not get lynched. There are probably two wolves. Having a scumlean on MP, consensus townies in Sloonei, Dunya, Russ and townleaning TH means there's a really decent chance Speed (or DDL for that matter) is scum. If you're not aware, I'm typically hard to lynch, especially as town. Less so when I replace in. Like if you have a 4 player POE that I'm in and a winning POE is 3 players and I'm town, the game is won because I will take myself out of that POE. So I'm fine lynching Speed, even without a read on him, if it means I'm not lynched. Even if Speed is town, he gets mislynched more than I do. Going Jack -> Speed could mean we both get mislynched. Going Speed -> Means I can probably avoid mislynch. And if Speed is scum, obviously it's good to lynch him and maybe my willingness to lynch him is the first step to me taking myself out of that POE.

this is the worst thing jack has written. it's like almost so bad it makes me think he's town, but wtf. what the actual fuck is this reasoning lol.

Seriously, this is good reasoning.

When you mislynch me, it'll be Speed next. You know it will. Speed gets POEed out every game lately. It doesn't matter if you lynch him today or if you lynch him tomorrow and I don't know his alignment.

But I don't often get mislynched. I know I'm town.

It's mathematically correct unless you have reason to believe I'm a wolf and Speed is town.

dunya wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 11:51 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 11:40 am That is unfair because that's not alignment indicative.

i agree, but when you use it as an excuse to shade other players like "oh i haven't caught up but didn't so and so do this and that?" it feels like you have caught up but are feigning not. it's confusing. but that's how i felt you came across. more like eloh in mountains mafia than town jack actually scum hunting.

you don't have a reason to scum read speed but are voting for him. how am i supposed to feel about that? if you were town, you can at least convince us of a read you have but so far you've given none out except for MP but that was shot down quickly by him. i don't see any scum hunting or game solving, not by tony before you, and not you now. that's my issue.

linki: i don't care if you defend yourself. indeed, i wish you do. but i still am not convinced you think speed is bad. i mean you pretty much said you don't think he is, so i can't get behind you deciding that speed is who you're gonna lynch without exploring other possibilities.

what do you mean you don't know how poe works?

What do you mean I'm "shading" Speed? I haven't thrown out suspicion of him until the post I voted for him. I haven't had dishonest pushes against him. That's not what "shade" means. You misusing this terminology to imply I'm scum is an example of shading someone.

Why on earth do you think I'm caught up? I'm caught up from when I replaced in. I'm missing most of the game between page 5ish to when I replaced in. If you think I'm a wolf that's caught up, why have I not you know, provided actual reasoning for why someone else should be lynched. You honestly think I'm a bad guy who read a whole game but can't do anything to mislynch anyone so I'm just pretending I haven't caught up? Come the fuck on.

Idk. Feel how you feel about it. Bullshit, I don't have reads. I just didn't have a read on Speedchuck until just now. I've expressed my TH read several times. You don't see any hunt in my posts about TH or MP? Again, bullshit. Why are you so bad at reading me that you just say blatantly false things?

Fantastic. Because I didn't scumread Speed until he said he felt decent about lynching me. What possibilities should I be exploring? Cause it's me, TH, Speed or DDL. I'm town. I townread TH. Speed has 3 votes and has said a scummy thing just now. DDL has no votes and I haven't seen anything scummy in all the posts he's made since catchup.

It's not about me being damn sure Speed's scum. It's about lynching Speed being both the most viable player to lynch that isn't me and the most likely player to be a wolf imo. He's winning by a lot in the first category and not by much in the second category but I need to vote in the crosstabs of those two categories. That's called strategy.

Jesus, Dunya.

What am I supposed to fucking sound like if I'm not caught up.

POE is like these 4 players (TH, Speed, DDL, me). I townread these 2 players in the POE (TH and me). Of course I'm okay with lynching Speed.

It's not me being scum so I'm okay with lynching a person even though I have no progression on him.

It's me being behind and not having a real read but understanding how POE works.

It's really really really obnoxious for you to take all my perfectly natural town posts and be like "This shit always comes from a wolf." No, it doesn't. To the point where if you weren't Dunya (or a handful of other people), I'd say it was actually scum indicative regardless of everyone else's opinions of you.

But it's not. Because you always freaking tunnel me. Then you come into the next game taking absolutely nothing at all from the last time you misread me and do it all over again. It's just worse here because in a normal game, I can shove you aside and lynch wolves but here, I'm too behind to just do that.

dunya wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 10:15 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 9:53 am Now I know his tell, though. If he's scum, he'll replace out like a Glor so he must be town here

nah, i think you're confused. that's tony, mate.

It's a joke. Sloonei replaced out the last game after doing nothing and he was scum.

dunya wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 10:39 am now this is gonna seem unfair, but one of the reasons why i suspected jack is because in pirates mafia he took his sweet time to catch up. and i feel like he's doing that here too.

That is unfair because that's not alignment indicative. Would you like me to lynch you to a game where I died yesterday as town after failing to catch up?

dunya wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 10:43 am this is the worst thing jack has written. it's like almost so bad it makes me think he's town, but wtf. what the actual fuck is this reasoning lol.

Town reasoning. Fuck off.

[VOTE: Vote Speed] aubergine

I've now seen one of his posts. He feels pretty good about lynching me. Fuck that, too.

Bad at *reading* Sloonei.

When you check your rhymes 500 times and then you have to burn a post because you don't check your post for stuff like that.

Russtifinko wrote: ↑Thu May 07, 2020 9:59 pm

Spoiler: show

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed May 06, 2020 2:33 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 12:24 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 3:05 am Hey fuckers it's Power Rankings Time

The Power & The Passion - Top 5!


1. Russtifinko - Putting forth some thinking activities in an environment that is probably not super chillax for scum. Liking ya boy.

2. TonyStarkPrime - Really good looks for the boy. Powers to the top of the rankings on the back of some really willing and hectic town pings and good effort.

3. Sig - I like the fire and the penache stirring from within.

4. Sloonei - A bit of an awkward start but I give him points for considering threadstate so early on. I'll give him a mini pass because a post cap game does make sense to be something bothersome to him. Don't like his FPS town reads though. I see no reason to town read Epi or MP, let alone both of them. Would love an explanation.

5. Nutella - I have a sense that she is towntella but she doesn't really deserve the read. I don't like that she went for the sig town read. I enjoyed the pressure we were putting on him. But she's obsessed with disrupting earnest scum hunting in the early game for some reason as a matter of course so it's on town meta for her to do this.

Everyone Else

6. Turnip Head - I have this sort of inverse read on TH right now where I think he's kind of taking the piss a bit too much to be scum.

7. Epignosis - Really enjoyed him slapping M Plus 7 across the face with a wet fish but he doesn't care one iota about the roof. He's burning through posts, taking the piss mostly.

8. NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - He hasn't posted out of rhyme yet at all and his reads in rhyme have been pretty borderline.

9. M Plus 7 - Pretty bad so far. The only town ping I've had was him saying fuck. But MP is the sort of wolf player who fakes getting upset when he's accused (or perhaps doesn't need to fake it).

10. dunya - What is you doing fam? I don't like the fact that you've left zero impression on me.

T11. G-Man + Speedchuck - They have made one off topic post each in a game that I would expect the scum to have action paralysis in.

This is good this is good this is good shit
This is my fourth post and I love it
To respond to Sloonei no I don't care
MP feels different here, I swear

Weird post from someone who ended the day voting Mac.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed May 06, 2020 2:34 pm Nm I thought that was a Dunya post. See? This is why the rhymes suck.

Slightly favorable look for Jack here. I know he had literally just subbed in, but I feel like if you're bad you're slightly less likely to misattribute a quote from a teammate. Obviously fakeable, but why?

Spoiler: show

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed May 06, 2020 2:58 pm

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 3:10 pm I don't feel like sig is a pivotal lynch
Nor do I feel he will be"incredibly difficult to assess and/or work with"
The day is young and we don't need to clench
The poll or our buttholes to answer this myth

This reads town.

Jack can you clarify what about this reads town? Also, has anyone engaged you on the below?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed May 06, 2020 4:01 pm Somebody talk to me about there being 4 single off wagon votes yesterday.

Spoiler: show

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed May 06, 2020 11:42 pm I agree with Dunya's reason for townreading GMan. In theory, a scum player could just say those things but he reads like a townie excited to share info and I doubt he'd just make something up. Not his style.

Aaaaand I townread TH early on.

Again points out the TH townread. If Jack is bad, TH possible teammate? Also, town-reading G-Man without giving a whole lot of reason why. (Admittedly, gives more reason than nutella did, but "more reason" consists of sheeping dunya.)

Spoiler: show

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 07, 2020 12:48 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu May 07, 2020 12:30 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed May 06, 2020 11:42 pm I agree with Dunya's reason for townreading GMan. In theory, a scum player could just say those things but he reads like a townie excited to share info and I doubt he'd just make something up. Not his style.

Aaaaand I townread TH early on.

You just crossed off the two most viable alternatives to yourself imo. Who do we lynch today, jackie boy?

Yeah no shit.

Fuckifiknow. I’m not caught up.

Wasn’t Speed’s name being thrown around? Granted, I’ve read like 2 of his posts and shouldn’t advocate lynching someone I’m pretty good at reading until I actually read him, either.

Terrible look. Jack, when poked by Sloonei, says he hasn't read Speed and has heard his name thrown about, so why not him? How is that mindset even at all town-aligned? I get that he's catching up and no one wants ot die, but the way you avoid dying is by helping find baddies, making cases and such. Not by randomly deflecting. He does eventually get around to doing that, though, shading MP and Sloonei:

Spoiler: show

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 07, 2020 10:45 am MP's explanation of how to read Sloonei kinda hurts my heart cause I'm so bad about it. I could pretty easily believe it's TMI because I want it to be.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 07, 2020 10:50 am Idk if MP going "Talk to me about X" three or four times in one post is like actually a thing that scum MP does and town MP doesn't but it is pretty softball and I could believe it's alignment indicative. I don't really know how to read MP when he's not posting 5 million times in champs.

This is a better look - he's offering his own take. Still only responding to things happening immediately in the thread, which isn't as ideal as reading back, but is consistent with having just subbed in and defending yourself.

Spoiler: show

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 07, 2020 10:55 am

dunya wrote: ↑Thu May 07, 2020 9:58 am i still think tony/speed look worst out of nutella's iso. i get the TH suspicion more now though and i'll keep an open mind about that when isoing them.

Can we compromise and go something like Speed -> MP -> pretend I'll get lynched right here -> TH?

Cause I don't have an opinion on Speed yet and MP looks kinda bad and I bet I can show my townie underwear before I'm actually lynched given another couple days.

But then it's back to "anyone but me!" If MP is his top baddie read here, why list Speed first, especially if he has no read on him, as he says right in the post? This was pre-MP claim, but feels a little like Jack isn't sticking to his reads.


I read TSP after Jack, and I am now too tired to bother with quotes.

Things in his favor: Epi seemed convinced he was civ. Unfortunately we don't know why.
Things against him: most of his posts are either (1) rhymes or (2) saying that he was against the Mac and sig lynches. I also think this is a case of trying to build civ cred while skating by. Also, he had Epi in his scum GTH, but was happy to take full credit for the civ read Epi gave him:

Spoiler: show

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun May 03, 2020 3:48 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun May 03, 2020 3:22 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 3:23 pm TonyStarkPrime:

Eh. Tiny thing in his favor. Won't mention what it is.

I would not lynch TSP today.

I'm assuming this tiny thing is related to the game that just ended. If so, would you like to mention it now?

For what’s it worth, Epi and Mac both (I feel) can get a sense on me early better than other players.

Conclusion: I would not be shocked if both Speed and Jack were town. Would rather vote Speed, because the building-civ-cred thing is stronger there, but would vote either one of them over anyone else right now.

Sig gets mislynched all the damn time. TH basically is working to not have the town tunnel on Sig. He's not a pivotal lynch. He's not impossible to read. Don't get tunnelbrained. It reads townie.

To be clear, I agreed with Dunya's reasoning for townreading GMan. I wasn't sheeping her. We both thought the way he claimed was townie.

Sloonei talked to me about the off wagon votes but it didn't really help. He said Dunya's vote was a "head scratcher" and that some of the off wagon votes "make sense based on the way each of those players acted." I still want to hear about it. The wagon formation feels wrong. I basically only put off wagon votes down if I loathe all the viable wagons and am protest voting. I'll generally vote a townlean to save a townread. Iirc 3 off wagon votes and a pair of 2 person wagons and a 4 person wagon feels wrong. Maybe there were last second switches to explain it but that's not the way Sloonei answered my concern. I haven't caught up that far.

My answer to Sloonei was from a townie mindset because I'm town. Checkmate.

To be clear, I'm sheeping the majority on Sloonei who say that Sloonei is town here. I'm historically bad at lynching Sloonei. Now I know his tell, though. If he's scum, he'll replace out like a Glor so he must be town here.

I'm not sticking to my reads. I'm negotiating to not get lynched. There are probably two wolves. Having a scumlean on MP, consensus townies in Sloonei, Dunya, Russ and townleaning TH means there's a really decent chance Speed (or DDL for that matter) is scum. If you're not aware, I'm typically hard to lynch, especially as town. Less so when I replace in. Like if you have a 4 player POE that I'm in and a winning POE is 3 players and I'm town, the game is won because I will take myself out of that POE. So I'm fine lynching Speed, even without a read on him, if it means I'm not lynched. Even if Speed is town, he gets mislynched more than I do. Going Jack -> Speed could mean we both get mislynched. Going Speed -> Means I can probably avoid mislynch. And if Speed is scum, obviously it's good to lynch him and maybe my willingness to lynch him is the first step to me taking myself out of that POE.

So to summarize

I have real reads, they're what I sang
But my biggest responsibility is to not hang
I'm in the POE but I'm sure I can get out
So to put others first I will scream and shout

I won't vote a townread, though, I swear
Lynchable when replacing in, I'm very aware
Give me some help though and give me some air
I'll help catch the ones who are covered in hair

Sucks to be Tony cause I'm the one who
Sees him when we're both in the town crew
Alas, for the moment it's all I can do
To play for the both of us and try to win too

So give me a Jimmy and give me a Jay
Give me a Jiggy for the rhymes that I say
Post counts should lift near the end of the day
But I'm not hosting so this rhyme game I'll play

Shit I need five. Guess I thought it was four
Inside me I don't know if I have any more
Luckily, this is what rhymezone is for
I hate this as much as truthmeta from Glor

dunya wrote: ↑Thu May 07, 2020 5:07 pm i urge people to read pirates jack. it's similar to this game in how he replaced in as scum. i feel like i see the exact same person here and @speedchuck might be able to offer a little more insight on how he's reading jack this game since he was his scummate that game.

check it out. it's not a very long iso: http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/search ... sf=msgonly

speedchuck hasn't contributed a lot, but he's been frank about not going to. like too frank even. and after isoing him, i see a town speed in his voice when he has pitched in. i totally mindmelded with him in nanook's handling of sig. he said if sig flipped town he'd look into these people for TMI: DDL, nutella, TSP, russ for sig-town, because possible TMI. (I'd have to read closer to see who). hope he can check in before eod tomorrow and tell us how he feels about ddl, tsp/jack, and russ with not only sig flipping town but nutella flipping scum, because those are literally my POE now.

linki: typical of ddl to vote for the one who isn't his teammate

You’re confusing replacing in Jack with scumJack.

I’d prefer wolves vote for me cause on the off chance you pull this off, town learns fuck all from my flip.

I have to do it three more times?
Jesus, I'm pretty bad at rhymes
Multigaming and trying to work
Rhyming about myself is a circlejerk

I've never even played Banjo Kazooie
Love DKR and red balloons = kablooie
My N64 leaves the screen staticy as hell
52 games left on my list oh well

One rhyme to go and I get more to post
I'm here mostly cause I love the host
Work, Realms, CindyKate and Champs, this day is a haze
Maybe I'll win some more posts rhyming in the night phase

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu May 07, 2020 3:19 pm I'm only half joking. I have so much faith in dunya that I'm not ruling out the possibility that she unconsciously solved this game.

Dunya suspects townJack when she's awake
Why believe sleepyheads that say I'm fake?
You're just giving the poor girl false hope
Am I lynchable? Gonna say nope

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu May 07, 2020 3:15 pm Moved back to Tony/Jack.
MP's wagon is on track,
But dunya had a dream:
We can lynch Jack for the meme.

The meme is Dunya dreams of me
She takes this game so seriously
I'm happy with lynching MP
Is this post worth one jiggy?

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu May 07, 2020 2:16 pm You know what, fuck it, this feels right.

[VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine

Does scum DDL invite me to read his partner Nutella right after I replace in?

Consider, I read Nutella correctly like 8 games running...and then misread her last game.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu May 07, 2020 1:35 pm Regardless of your intention, if a goal was to get me more invested in this game, I suppose it worked a little. I'm really at a loss as to where to lynch except Jack though. I feel like a decent case can be made for everyone left to be town.

So vote me and we can distance to the max.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu May 07, 2020 1:05 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Wed May 06, 2020 9:47 pm Yes, gman lock town. Look at nutellas role "you will be told who targeted that player that night if anyone."

GMAN knows who shot nutella. There isnt 2 similar scum roles on the sane team. I give Jay way more credit than that plus it would be weird. It makes sense for town to have a similar counter balance role though.

No doubt in my mind G is town. Big difference between his claim and nanooks.

I'm a bit confused. I'm all for people claiming whenever they think is best, but if G-Man knows who shot nutella, shouldn't he tell us that, even if the information is potentially unclear?

What's the upside?

The downside is the wolves get the name of the vigilante...

K. Bussing MP probably.

[VOTE: MPlus7] aubergine

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Thu May 07, 2020 10:14 am Plus after sig I don't trust that someone who should claim will do so

Sig is one of the players I'd be concerned about that with. Perhaps GMan, too, but that's not a concern this game for obvious reasons. Idk Russ but for everyone else, being absent from EOD aside, I'm not so worried about them not claiming when push comes to shove.

dunya wrote: ↑Thu May 07, 2020 9:58 am i still think tony/speed look worst out of nutella's iso. i get the TH suspicion more now though and i'll keep an open mind about that when isoing them.

Can we compromise and go something like Speed -> MP -> pretend I'll get lynched right here -> TH?

Cause I don't have an opinion on Speed yet and MP looks kinda bad and I bet I can show my townie underwear before I'm actually lynched given another couple days.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu May 07, 2020 9:57 am I think you should probably claim your result. The benefits of confirming both you and the person who vigged nutella at this stage of the game (with mafia only having 3 kills left) probably enclipse the possible benefits of trying to make a later claim. I'm thinking you probably won't have that chance yourself anyway, since this mafia seems to have cop paranoia.

Idk if it's that useful.

We are allowed claims and flips. Presumably if whoever it is claims vig or x shot vig or whatever down the road, we'll believe them. It only matters if the game goes to lylo, GMan is dead and two players claim vig.

Idk if MP going "Talk to me about X" three or four times in one post is like actually a thing that scum MP does and town MP doesn't but it is pretty softball and I could believe it's alignment indicative. I don't really know how to read MP when he's not posting 5 million times in champs.

MP's explanation of how to read Sloonei kinda hurts my heart cause I'm so bad about it. I could pretty easily believe it's TMI because I want it to be.

Okay so my avatar is from Carnival Phantasm which is a spoof anime of Fate Stay Night. Stay Night is supposed to be a battle royale between seven heroes but Gilgamesh crashes the party as an eighth competitor. In Carnival Phantasm, the seven compete in everything but battling from cards to racing. In the middle of the race, Gilgamesh comes flying in from off the track to complaints of "You aren't even supposed to be in this race." His motorcycle is called the GilGil Machine but if you search for that on google, this is the first thing that comes up.

Can we do me later in the POE since I'm so fun and have a good avatar and am town?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu May 07, 2020 12:30 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed May 06, 2020 11:42 pm I agree with Dunya's reason for townreading GMan. In theory, a scum player could just say those things but he reads like a townie excited to share info and I doubt he'd just make something up. Not his style.

Aaaaand I townread TH early on.

You just crossed off the two most viable alternatives to yourself imo. Who do we lynch today, jackie boy?

Yeah no shit.

Fuckifiknow. I’m not caught up.

Wasn’t Speed’s name being thrown around? Granted, I’ve read like 2 of his posts and shouldn’t advocate lynching someone I’m pretty good at reading until I actually read him, either.

I agree with Dunya's reason for townreading GMan. In theory, a scum player could just say those things but he reads like a townie excited to share info and I doubt he'd just make something up. Not his style.

Aaaaand I townread TH early on.

dunya wrote: ↑Wed May 06, 2020 8:59 pm Also so freaking weird but I had a dream that somehow included this game last night and Jack was playing in it I shit you not. Woke up and heres jack replaced in for Tony. So basically, I see the future now. Jack was bad. Let's see if that holds up too...

Lol I never dream about you. Maybe vote for people you aren't obsessed with and who can you know, actually answer your questions about the actions that they actually did.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed May 06, 2020 6:00 pm Night 2 has ended.

Time to go four eyes
Such a pest of a mole
Watch how little Tooty cries
Try again in the next poll!

Wait, what's that I see?
It's an egg headed right for me!
Not again, this cannot be
Aaaaayyyyyyiiiiieeeeeee!

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME has been killed. He was:

Spoiler: show

You are Bottles.



During each night phase, you may select a player. You will be told whether or not that player has a vanilla role.

Each time you receive a “vanilla” result, you will gain one Jiggy.

You are aligned with the civilians and win the game when all mafia members are eliminated.

nutella has been killed. She was:

Spoiler: show

You are Gruntilda Winkybunion.



During each night phase, you may select a player. You will be told who targeted that player that night if anyone.

[REDACTED]

You may safely claim to be Tooty.



You are aligned with the mafia and win the game when your team permanently matches or overtakes the voting power of the civilians.

Day 3 is underway. You have 48 hours to lynch someone. I will update the post count ceilings shortly.

Wrong reads flipping via nk is good.

Somebody talk to me about there being 4 single off wagon votes yesterday.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 3:10 pm I don't feel like sig is a pivotal lynch
Nor do I feel he will be"incredibly difficult to assess and/or work with"
The day is young and we don't need to clench
The poll or our buttholes to answer this myth

This reads town.

Nm I thought that was a Dunya post. See? This is why the rhymes suck.

nutella wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 12:24 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 3:05 am Hey fuckers it's Power Rankings Time

The Power & The Passion - Top 5!


1. Russtifinko - Putting forth some thinking activities in an environment that is probably not super chillax for scum. Liking ya boy.

2. TonyStarkPrime - Really good looks for the boy. Powers to the top of the rankings on the back of some really willing and hectic town pings and good effort.

3. Sig - I like the fire and the penache stirring from within.

4. Sloonei - A bit of an awkward start but I give him points for considering threadstate so early on. I'll give him a mini pass because a post cap game does make sense to be something bothersome to him. Don't like his FPS town reads though. I see no reason to town read Epi or MP, let alone both of them. Would love an explanation.

5. Nutella - I have a sense that she is towntella but she doesn't really deserve the read. I don't like that she went for the sig town read. I enjoyed the pressure we were putting on him. But she's obsessed with disrupting earnest scum hunting in the early game for some reason as a matter of course so it's on town meta for her to do this.

Everyone Else

6. Turnip Head - I have this sort of inverse read on TH right now where I think he's kind of taking the piss a bit too much to be scum.

7. Epignosis - Really enjoyed him slapping M Plus 7 across the face with a wet fish but he doesn't care one iota about the roof. He's burning through posts, taking the piss mostly.

8. NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - He hasn't posted out of rhyme yet at all and his reads in rhyme have been pretty borderline.

9. M Plus 7 - Pretty bad so far. The only town ping I've had was him saying fuck. But MP is the sort of wolf player who fakes getting upset when he's accused (or perhaps doesn't need to fake it).

10. dunya - What is you doing fam? I don't like the fact that you've left zero impression on me.

T11. G-Man + Speedchuck - They have made one off topic post each in a game that I would expect the scum to have action paralysis in.

This is good this is good this is good shit
This is my fourth post and I love it
To respond to Sloonei no I don't care
MP feels different here, I swear

Weird post from someone who ended the day voting Mac.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 3:12 am If you’re waiting for me to not rhyme
This ain’t that time
To channel my inner jacksie
You can’t kill me, no take backsie

Hardy har.

As of end of page 2, I could lynch Nanook or Dunya or Speed or GMan, in about that order.

Have a reason to townread about everyone else.

My first thought on the rules is that rhyming is a massive waste of time for civs.

Burning post count to expand post count? And then it obscures natural tone as well.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed May 06, 2020 8:24 am Hey welcome @Jackofhearts2005

We are here trying to figure out nutella. What would your nutelladar say?

Lol it's broken but I'll give it a whirl.