The Syndicate

And it was just MM who replaced out afterwards.

Town-friendly cult, most fun role I've seen in a year, gets vigged night one.

WTF?

I was so disappointed.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 6:05 pm I died in the other game right as I got off work.

Shame.

How are we today?

Dead.

sprityo wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 4:26 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 11:59 am A shame too... here I was thinking "I just wish I could press my shirtless body up to them." Looks like that can't happen.

Damnit now I won’t get a custom banner that says “DrWilgy pressed his shirtless body against me.”

Keep being jealous.

Even if you got the banner, there would be no shrimp involved.

Day flip is better than no flip

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 10:34 am

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 10:31 am

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 9:21 am I'm not happy.

I will never understand you sir.

Why not be happy?

Nutella wasn't lynched.

But we lynched scum tho

Nutella can die tonight or be lynched tomorrow

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 9:21 am I'm not happy.

I will never understand you sir.

Why not be happy?

Oh heck yeah

And people moved off of me onto cooler apparently. That makes me feel good about myself despite me doing literally nothing. Move off of me onto another scum tomorrow, friendos!

If Sloonei is town, scum will kill him for engaging the thread. If he's scum... the other team may kill him for engaging the thread.

My off-handed comment was not meant to start a lynch.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 6:43 pm A vote for me is no good at this point. I’m not going anywhere. In case you want a vote that makes a difference. It’s understandable if you don’t feel informed enough to cast a vote elsewhere.

This sentiment has been repeated by like 5 different people. So weird, how everyone just accepts Sloonei the Unlynchable.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 6:37 pm @Ultra @MafiaMenace that's really not fair to speed,he probably just left the site open but isbt actually here. I know I do that all the time, doesn't mean he's available and avoiding participation.

I've been popping in every half hour since I got home to read the last five posts or so and then disappearing to vacuum or dust or fix the windows.

This site shows you as logged in 15 minutes after you leave.

Creature wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 5:41 pm Luxurious is lynchbait, most likely town.

What to do about it?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 5:19 pm Nutella is bad because she's not mad.

I feel like I've seen someone say the opposite when she started cussing like 6 months ago.

Maybe it was someone else?

[VOTE: Lux] aubergine

I really need to focus on workstuff, and I'd rather nutella not get lynched I think. I know that's not a great reason to vote Lux, but it's the reason I'm giving. I'll have company tonight, so don't expect me to be around too much.

[mention]Dragomir[/mention] You appear to have flipped a bit on Lux. Was this due to review, to something said in thread, or to me having a warped understanding of your reads?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 2:40 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 2:33 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 2:31 pm I could townread MM, DDL if I must.

@MafiaMenace DDL is the player I thought you were when I first met you on GDS.

Y DDL?

I tend to suspect town DDL and mafia DDL. I don’t suspect him. So he’s probably town.

I came to the complete opposite conclusion for the same reason.

Ultra wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 2:10 pm wait is JJJ actually in this game

No

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 2:05 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 2:03 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 2:03 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 1:55 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 1:53 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 1:51 pm Jay probably mafia cause he’s not being very impactful.

He's probably silenced. I've NEVER seen a JJJ with only one post.

Agreed but that doesn’t make him town because multiball.

Noted. I just don't think I can lynch him today though.

Slick bastard got his name taken off the poll and everything.

Probably had his scum buddy moderator @Nutella do it.

Nay, 'tis a damien darkh ability, verily. One of them from the hidden list. Silenced and removed from the poll. Hmm.

(Jay is always on the secret lynch menu)

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 1:56 pm @speedchuck

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 11:41 am [VOTE: Cooler] aubergine

Cooler wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 10:12 am

Ultra wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 9:50 am I've been slanking a bit the last day or so but I promise I'll buckle down.

Voted Lux over Nutella because the former looks scummier at a surface level. And I haven't paid close enough attention to have confidence to push my own wagon atm

This is a rather bland and vague way to justify voting for someone. Basically sounds like you've gone for the easy choice while throwing in a nice little excuse for bandwagoning.

You're paying enough attention to say Lux looks scummier than Nutella but not enough to have your own thoughts on the game? Any other players on your suss list?

This is the most cherrypicked, obligatory suspicion I’ve ever seen. Creature says nothing for a long time but then picks this post out of the rubble to say unkind things about. Why?

You are not the only one to mix up cooler and creature, as you can see.

Ooh, I agree with this one. Like he's trying to skim the thread and find something to suspect or nitpick. Obligatory being the keyword. I like this ping.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 1:55 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 1:53 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 1:51 pm Jay probably mafia cause he’s not being very impactful.

He's probably silenced. I've NEVER seen a JJJ with only one post.

Agreed but that doesn’t make him town because multiball.

Noted. I just don't think I can lynch him today though.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 1:52 pm If you’ll take a closer look at the poll, you’ll notice that the guy with 350 posts is currently voting for the guy with 7 posts.

I'm sure you've already addressed this, but why?

I keep getting Creature and Cooler mixed up.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 1:51 pm Jay probably mafia cause he’s not being very impactful.

He's probably silenced. I've NEVER seen a JJJ with only one post.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 1:49 pm Why is ISOing me the best use of your limited time? What conclusions are you drawing from this exercise?

Because you were the one scumread I had early on. Wanted to see if your ISO picked up at some point.

It did. One page 3. Your first hundred posts were garbo, but the sheer number plus the pick-up on page three has me not wanting to lynch you, especially with what Jack pointed out.

linki: You think I want busywork? I quit the ISO after I hit page 3. Doof.

Username - Posts
Sloonei - 350
Luxurious - 230
Dragomir - 135
nutella - 135
Epignosis - 117
Creature - 104
Jackofhearts2005 - 100
Ultra - 99
MacDougall - 70
MafiaMenace - 45
speedchuck - 45
juliets - 41
DrWilgy - 29
Long Con - 22
Matahari - 22
Dragon D. Luffy - 21
DFaraday - 10
sprityo - 9
Cooler - 7
sabie12 - 6
Spacedaisy - 3
dunya - 2
JaggedJimmyJay - 1

Now that I've noticed it (thanks Dragomir), I don't particularly like that all the suspicion in the thread/poll seems to be directed at the top posters. Legend has it that it's difficult to post hundreds of times as scum, and doesn't happen all that often.

Why is Lux under heavy suspicion?

Ultra wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 1:43 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 12:48 pm I guess I should probably read Sloonei's ISO.

Why, exactly, did you feel the need to do this but also advertise it? I'm wondering why you don't have some tertiary impression from Sloonei just by reading the thread since he's the most present player. Why is your priority here to resolve him as opposed to literally anyone else unless you have a lead on him? Same thing with Nutella. Also remarkably little to say on either of them

Your presence seems lackluster compared to last game

Because I post whatever I'm doing so that people can follow my train of thought.
Because I haven't read the thread, so I didn't have an impression beyond the first five pages.
If you have someone I should make a priority, let me know.

TBH I don't have a lot of time for this game, but I signed up to get it off the ground. Judge me on what I got, not what I don't got.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 1:35 pm I'm sure there's a scum in Sloonei, Luxy, and Nutella. Might even be all 3 tbh.

The top three posters in the thread, in order. Exposure bias?

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 1:18 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 1:16 pm I've mindmelded with nutella a lot, but I mesh with this current accusation of her as well. "It probably won't work" or "I might be wrong and it's a gamble that would hurt town" is a really off reason not to lynch someone.

Since when did nutella need to consider other opinions?

I'm trying to decide if this comes from a scum perspective in a multi-team game. Is this idea of 'eh, it's a gamble, not worth' influenced by the speaker having possible access to a nightkill?

What did you guys mindmeld on?

Why does the it being a multi-ball affect what perspective she's in?

In multi-ball, scum doesn't have to fake hunting. They also don't have to commit as hard to getting someone they suspect lynched, because hey, they can just nightkill them.

That's not saying they won't fake some scumhunting, but they can legitimately hunt.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 1:32 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 1:16 pm I've mindmelded with nutella a lot, but I mesh with this current accusation of her as well. "It probably won't work" or "I might be wrong and it's a gamble that would hurt town" is a really off reason not to lynch someone.

Since when did nutella need to consider other opinions?

I'm trying to decide if this comes from a scum perspective in a multi-team game. Is this idea of 'eh, it's a gamble, not worth' influenced by the speaker having possible access to a nightkill?

Why is this a big deal? I'm absolutely willing to pursue my suspicion of sloonei,but I also retain some wariness that I might be wrong. What's wrong with that?

Since when do you ever do that?

And from what I can tell, you are not willing. You haven't voted him. You haven't called for votes, not directly.

I've mindmelded with nutella a lot, but I mesh with this current accusation of her as well. "It probably won't work" or "I might be wrong and it's a gamble that would hurt town" is a really off reason not to lynch someone.

Since when did nutella need to consider other opinions?

I'm trying to decide if this comes from a scum perspective in a multi-team game. Is this idea of 'eh, it's a gamble, not worth' influenced by the speaker having possible access to a nightkill?

Sloonei ISO page 3:

"Unfair ISO of Matahari"
"continued stuff from page 1/2"
"Some reads and suspicions that actually start to look good (or at least genuine and thoughtful)"

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 2:23 am You guys what if I make 200 posts before Day 1 even starts?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 12:57 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 12:53 pm First page of Sloonei's ISO:

"Elaborate"
"Game rules"
"Why?"
"Game rules"
"Elaborate"
"Explain"
"Game rules"
"Single town ping statement"
"Elaborate"
"Why?"
"Elaborate"

And?

I'm getting to that, there are like so many pages you moth-eaten lilac

Page 2 of Sloonei ISO:

"Continuation of page one ruletalk and 'explain' 'why'"
"Mac is town because he's falsely tunneling me. This is a defense that looks like a non-defensive townread"
"GTH anyone?" (clearly it's hard for sloonei to sheep opinions and lead the thread with so many unknowns [this is me being unfair, but my lack of fairness has caught scum in two games so far])
"townread on epi that is substantiated by meta"
"Would vote nutella for being reactionary"

First page of Sloonei's ISO:

"Elaborate"
"Game rules"
"Why?"
"Game rules"
"Elaborate"
"Explain"
"Game rules"
"Single town ping statement"
"Elaborate"
"Why?"
"Elaborate"

I guess I should probably read Sloonei's ISO.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 12:44 pm It's certainly a gamble. If sloonei is town after all losing him would be a significant hot to the thread activity and we'd all have to step it up. But, if he's bad he's all the more dangerous with his influence.

It's almost like every lynch in the game is a gamble.

Do you believe he's scum or not?

nutella wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 11:55 am (besides sloonei still but Mac is probably right that he won't realistically get lynched, and it appears I have to worry about self preservation now).

You never know until you try

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 11:57 am Give me two players you’d lynch and a third you’d maybe lynch.

"please give me player salad"

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 11:42 am

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 11:41 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 11:38 am @Dragomir are speedchuck’s posts on this page more in line with my description of “Good wishywahsy” or “Bad wishywashy”?

I can’t decide.

Why ask him?

Because we just had a conversation about this last night. I want to see what be thinks.

Cool.

I am missing quite a bit of context. Thanks for the answer.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 11:38 am @Dragomir are speedchuck’s posts on this page more in line with my description of “Good wishywahsy” or “Bad wishywashy”?

I can’t decide.

Why ask him?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 11:25 am

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 10:04 am I've been getting civ vibes on Jack. I think a baddie would be trying harder to generate a lot of reads and stuff. He is super chill about the fact he's tunneling on nutella and doesn't care about her complaints of it. And Jack does tnnel as a civ. A lot.


I don't necessarily agree with his points though, but nutella is blank for me. Will take a while for me to figure her out.

Here’s the thing, too. When I tunnel as a civ (or even as a neutral or scum player in multiball) I’m generally right.

See: Silver Lantern in Mass Effect, SenorSalt in BSG (MU), Fraggernaut in One Punch Mash (MU), Speedchuck in Ancient Greece, Rich in Restless Communication 2 (MU Discord).

I tunnel because I’m certain and I’m certain because I’m right.

I've been here over two years, and played in a lot of games with you. AG is the only correct tunnel you can reference from those games? Weak.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 11:20 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 3:14 am Let's see if Jack keeps his vote on nutella.

As long as she’s a viable lynch option.

You know how I love to bus.

You and I both know that isn't true.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 10:59 am Of the three people voting nutella right now, at least three of them are bad.

Jack
Mac
Lux

But I didn't read Lux's ISO because it's too long. :3

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 11:02 am I am a bit concerned that Mac is buddying me by declaring me Civ for next to nothing.

Almost none of Mac's reads are substantiated. It concerns me as well.

Not because it's scummy. Mac's changing up his game completely, and somehow being completely serious and unable to take seriously at the same time, and I have no idea how to read it. Is he mixing up his town game or scumgame?

But actually possibly mafia. Worth ISOing.

Maybe not mafia, but just... bad. *hits them with rolled up newspaper*

Of the three people voting nutella right now, at least three of them are bad.

Apparently not.

I just visited nutella's ISO and I'm pretty much mindmelded. Legit have no idea why anyone would be voting there.

Luxurious wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 3:05 am Like “speed scum” and then “speed scum (although Im not really feeling that anymore)”

Which hasnt really been conveyed here in such a way

But again, similar tone so huff

Did nutella scumread me at some point?

Cooler wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 10:27 am

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 10:24 am Okay, I super townread Mac, Nutella, and Ultra coming into D0, and was wary of or lightly scumreading sloonei.

What's up? What's changed?

Can you explain your reads?

I think I did, way back on early D0. Ultra was completely different from his recent scumgame, and was really engaging the thread. Mac and nutella were also different, on a fundamental level, from what they had been.

Sloonei feels stiff and mechanical, and he's spending a lot of time inflating his post count with rote questions. At least he was early on, when he had like 2 pages of posts instead of 7.