The Syndicate

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 11:53 am It would seem that a reasonably comfortable 5-player POE is not quite attainable yet, so we still have a lot of work to do. The game can easily be lost if that is not resolved. The pace of Day 1 needs to continue through Night 1 and onward.

Yep. I'm finding it hard to reduce below 6 or 7 POE. Hopefully today I'll have the chance to get some thoughts into the thread, I had some posts jump out during a quick reread this morning but didn't have time to put pen to paper, so to speak.

My gut still says Luna being bad is a good look for speedchuck, although not good enough to remove him from the pool.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 2:58 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 2:10 am Also, is speedchuck playing mafia without having seen the Godfather? Like, what the heck?

I've never seen it either. I thought rey was calling me fettuccine alfredo.

Speedchuck/Nutella confirmed mafia

They haven't seen the Godfather because they are living it

Lunalee wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 6:15 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 6:10 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 6:06 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 6:04 pm [VOTE: Lunalee] aubergine

lol, okay.
[VOTE: JackofHearts] aubergine
Let's make a three-way tie and hash this out, shall we?

Yuck. How bout no?

Linki: Cause you’re being lynched.

[VOTE: Lunalee] aubergine

I don't even seriously play until after day 1. If you all want to lynch me based on my day 1 posts, that's just lame.

What's the alternative here, lynch randomly?

Lunalee wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 5:35 pm

colonialbob wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 3:43 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 3:41 pm

colonialbob wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 3:39 pm [VOTE: Luna] aubergine

I need to know why. My entire body is exploding in euphoric tingles in anticipation.

"Hey guys this speedchuck lynch feels like a dogpile" which feels like the preamble to "ok I've read over the case and think I'm good with this lynch" and then "oh noes I should have stayed strong definitely there was a mafia pushing on speed"

you're predicting what I'm going to do next and calling it scummy?

Your post was scummy because it felt like the start of that train. I'm branching off JJJ's points about your speedchuck comments here.

reywaS wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:40 pm will he become a suspect for you on day 2 or will you assume he was just wrong and let him keep his civvie civvington badge for another day?

Why are you focused on this now?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 3:41 pm

colonialbob wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 3:39 pm [VOTE: Luna] aubergine

I need to know why. My entire body is exploding in euphoric tingles in anticipation.

"Hey guys this speedchuck lynch feels like a dogpile" which feels like the preamble to "ok I've read over the case and think I'm good with this lynch" and then "oh noes I should have stayed strong definitely there was a mafia pushing on speed"

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 11:22 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 11:03 am I wake up this morning with an urge deep in my spirit to set speedchuck on fire.

Do it, bitch.

Well now I guess we have to lynch speedchuck

I'll feel better when he starts hunting.

colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:01 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 9:59 pm If the lynch deadline was in 20 seconds, who y'all voting for?

Jack because I prefer him to speedchuck.

And don't care for any of the other people with a vote.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 9:59 pm If the lynch deadline was in 20 seconds, who y'all voting for?

Jack because I prefer him to speedchuck.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 8:58 pm

colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 6:59 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 6:58 pm

colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 6:15 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 6:09 pm

colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 5:49 pm Well that didn't work.

I don't want to lynch Audrey. I was wondering if somebody would jump on it.

There's a wolf in Luna/speed/reywas prove me wrong

Why those three?

C'mon dog

C’mon what? You barely talk about Speed and Luna. They’re voting for the same player ie nobody. Rey and Speed have similar reads but Luna doesn’t.

I’m struggling to see the connection.

GTH reads my dude

So you’re just doing the gth excercise late?

Do you have anything additional to say about them?

Nope. Those are the three who GTH'd Aubrey as bad.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 7:51 pm Also, I refuse to give anyone a break in the game of Mafia simply for an "absence of scummy stuff". To me, an absence of civilian stuff is itself inherently scummy. Neutral does not exist.

Yeah I know you had given reasons.

But to answer this point - I only bring this up in context of the "nobody is defending him/lots of people scumread him" conversation. He certainly has negative reasons to believe he's mafia (lack of reasons to townread him). I have not seen many people give positive reasons he is mafia (e.g. he did this and it pinged me).

(I will also note I merely said I was less inclined to lynch him, and that my vote has remained on him. He is still orange for me. Off to ISO him and check how he has responded to the pressure, plus look for others reasoning for scumreading him. Probably after I finish up at work, go home, and eat dinner though.)

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 6:58 pm

colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 6:15 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 6:09 pm

colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 5:49 pm Well that didn't work.

I don't want to lynch Audrey. I was wondering if somebody would jump on it.

There's a wolf in Luna/speed/reywas prove me wrong

Why those three?

C'mon dog

C’mon what? You barely talk about Speed and Luna. They’re voting for the same player ie nobody. Rey and Speed have similar reads but Luna doesn’t.

I’m struggling to see the connection.

GTH reads my dude

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 6:35 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 6:08 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 5:47 pm I would welcome anyone providing an argument in favor of Jack being a civilian. There's been little verbal resistance to his candidacy for badness.

Aren’t you answering your own question?

It’s a crappy argument on its own.

Has anybody else given a reason he's scummy?

Elohcin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 6:38 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:19 am Are we still doing the two townreads two scumreads thing, or am I too late to the party?

eeww....I don't like this question. Civs can always benefit from opinions like this and the fact that you are asking is making me change my opinion on you.

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I know, I know....Tasha, just read everything and THEN post. But then I would never post!!! It took me an hour and a half to get through 4 minutes of a tv show today....literally!!!!

Fwiw you don't have to apologise every time you post during your catch-up. I think your opinions as you go are valuable.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 6:09 pm

colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 5:49 pm Well that didn't work.

I don't want to lynch Audrey. I was wondering if somebody would jump on it.

There's a wolf in Luna/speed/reywas prove me wrong

Why those three?

C'mon dog

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 5:47 pm I would welcome anyone providing an argument in favor of Jack being a civilian. There's been little verbal resistance to his candidacy for badness.

Exactly!

He's not had much civvie behavior, but also not much scummie behavior. He looks pretty close to how he always looks D1. Yet he's getting a lot of heat. Easy target?

I put Jack with speed in the "early games look pretty similar whether maf or civ" bucket. I think his self-analysis was pretty accurate here.

Well that didn't work.

I don't want to lynch Audrey. I was wondering if somebody would jump on it.

There's a wolf in Luna/speed/reywas prove me wrong

Who wants to lynch Audrey?

Curious why everyone is townreading Jay so hard. Jack has explained his already.

[mention]leetic[/mention] I like your analysis but TBH I'm gonna ignore your post because I'd rather hunt.

I'm not as interested in lynching Jack, although I'm curious why he scumreads me.

4 pages in half a day, guess it's a good thing I'm not doing any bits this game huh

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:39 pm

reywaS wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:39 pm good
god

y'all

Thank you for this

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 10:04 pm

colonialbob wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 10:01 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 7:10 pm Let's do an exercise! Yay!

I would like everyone to name two civilian reads and two suspects. Please and thank you for your efforts toward a civilian victory.

Civ: sabie, leetic
Scum: reywas, Sloonei

Why Sabie and Rey?

Sabie's response to "your intro is bad" was "nova and jjj are teammates" which seems ballsy for scum sabie.

When offered an opportunity to talk about nutella Rey went "hmm idk maybe I'm just being silly tho"

That said, [VOTE: jackofhearts] aubergine

Come play for reals

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 7:10 pm Let's do an exercise! Yay!

I would like everyone to name two civilian reads and two suspects. Please and thank you for your efforts toward a civilian victory.

Civ: sabie, leetic
Scum: reywas, Sloonei

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 5:34 pm I was serious tho.

Aw heck

colonialbob wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:03 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 12:55 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 12:49 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 12:39 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 12:15 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 12:13 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 12:11 pm

Really?

Yep.

Filler post. And you said REY was trying too hard? Bugger off with that.

The fuck is a filler post? Do you not want me to generate content? I don't believe you really suspect me for that post. You just thought it would be an easy thing to appear suspicious of.

Yes, I want you to generate content. That post said nothing, had no content.

I am accusing you of pretending to generate content. Was that unclear?

Well they're my thoughts so far, take them or leave them. I'm accusing you of fabricating a suspicion.

What content would you say is present in your post? What should I take away from that post that helps me get a feeling either on you or from you on others?

[mention]nutella[/mention]

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:30 pm It means I said one player's name instead of the other's.

Yes but why? Possibilities:

- It's an honest slip and means nothing.
- You're concerned about how Rey is viewed and not Nova, because you are teammates with Rey.
- You're concerned with how Rey is viewed because you're trying to set up some interaction with him. This reads maf to me.

Now obviously option 1 is a real possibility, but I can't come up with any town reasons you would have made the slip, whole I can come up with several maf ones (to go along side the NAI honest slip). So, sus.

I'm still trying to figure out what I think it means, but it makes me sus J.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:12 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 11:57 am

Lunalee wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 11:38 am

sabie12 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 10:19 am Haha you guys trying to accuse me because I said hi its gonna be a good group? I didn't have any chatter because no one was on to chat with when I was here. My accusation is nova and Jay must be teammates trying to stir the pot together and get all the suspicions off of them.

Nevermind Jay and Nova. Seems like they are strong-arming everyone at the door with their check-in posts. It's simply a power show.

What does this "power show" indicate to you about rey and I?

I didn't mention rey. It just makes you and Nova look like you're excited for the game, and don't mind punching reads out of people's check-in posts. I like the enthusiasm, but your methods look a bit harsh.

This... is actually interesting. Rey for Nova slip. I'm intrigued.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 12:55 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 12:49 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 12:39 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 12:15 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 12:13 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 12:11 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 12:10 pm Sloonei could be bad. Need more data. Cbob need more data too

Really?

Yep.

Filler post. And you said REY was trying too hard? Bugger off with that.

The fuck is a filler post? Do you not want me to generate content? I don't believe you really suspect me for that post. You just thought it would be an easy thing to appear suspicious of.

Yes, I want you to generate content. That post said nothing, had no content.

I am accusing you of pretending to generate content. Was that unclear?

Well they're my thoughts so far, take them or leave them. I'm accusing you of fabricating a suspicion.

What content would you say is present in your post? What should I take away from that post that helps me get a feeling either on you or from you on others?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 12:16 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 2:26 am Hi. I'm Jay and I'm sick of losing. Prepare your butts for the worst kind of me.

I've missed playing here.

It's FE all over again

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 11:14 am leetic I've ne'er seen you before. I'd love to hear where you're from, and what you think your playstyle is like.

JJJ is pending town. Ask me why.

Aw heck Sloonei

Y tho

I still can't think of a humorous quip to introduce myself, so please imagine one yourselves and insert it here. Thank you.