The Syndicate

Really nice going there. Lynching someone subbing in less than 24 hours ago in an ongoing D3 phase to help out. And waiting until they log off after mentioning they'll barely be back before EoD.

Posting this from someone's else phone since my batrery died and I won't be back home anytime soon.

DDL, Epi, Tony and Michelle. Solve it and we win the game I think, although this EoD might show somrthing else. Don't have time to read it fully though.

Godspeed.

I'll be back before EoD, have Uncut Gems to watch

I'll vote then, let's have us a DDL v Epi showdown

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 7:21 pm [VOTE: macdougall] aubergine

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 6:29 pm So i'm thinking if all four turtles are civ then mafia has a very strong incentive to kill them all. They can't really wifom their way out of it.

But if at least one of them is bad, maybe mafia lets to get the others leave since that member being bad forces town to eventually lynch some of them. True, it may be still smart to kill some of them, but maybe not all of them.

What I mean is that those kills say good things about Sloon and Timmer I guess.

This is a good DDL post though me think

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 7:00 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 6:29 pm So i'm thinking if all four turtles are civ then mafia has a very strong incentive to kill them all. They can't really wifom their way out of it.

But if at least one of them is bad, maybe mafia lets to get the others leave since that member being bad forces town to eventually lynch some of them. True, it may be still smart to kill some of them, but maybe not all of them.

What I mean is that those kills say good things about Sloon and Timmer I guess.
I’d been waiting all day for someone to make this point.

If I was bad, I wouldn’t be making kills that leave me exposed.

Not necessarily. TSP has a very good counterpoint. Killing outside of the group of 4 to bring attention to them, and they might start to lynch amongst them, as well as other townies doing the same.

Civ DDL is usually his own man and always get suspected because he likes to theorycraft and share everything that come to his mind. Their usually raw thoughts and often appears as flip flopping. Here he kind of seems like he's aligning himself with the thread and trying to compromise in a weird fashion. Not sure how I like his argumentation about how your handling certain players in comparison to others. Don't see that coming from a townie perspective

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 5:38 pm DDL’s paranoia about me is the kind of skepticism I like to see in a civilian.

Hmm it feels pretty tame. Same weird feeling I'm getting from his entrance, he's holding something back lol.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 5:45 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 5:32 pm what do you have on him DDL?
Nothing.

Epi usually gives me more.

At the very least, there is a major change in how he's approaching the game. Him regretting voting Dom and saying he won't keep trying is extremely non-Epi.

That and nobody was talking much about Eppi before you came so feels like I'm joining a rebellion or something. I like that.

Who else do you suspect?

what do you have on him DDL?

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 5:16 pm [VOTE: Epi] aubergine

Been a while since I tried to lynch Epi I think.

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 5:10 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 5:06 pm Who said Mafia is hard?
i dare to say you take it lightly :-)

Taking Mafia lightly? That could never be me

Who said Mafia is hard?

I feel fucking fantastic about my PoE lol

The kind of scum prod to appear like they're trying to figure stuff out and get some interaction going, but they actually couldn't care less. It's usually about stuff that they can find easily by looking around, and it's mostly like general thoughts rather than something specific to actually get inside someone's head and either figure them out or help you get a better read on the person their thoughts are about.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 4:35 pm @Michelle Talk to me more about Wilgy. I think we had this conversation already, but let’s rehash it.

This feels fake.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 4:49 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 4:36 pm Talk to me about Epi, Sloonei. Think it's a slam dunk
I have caught scum epi multiple times in the past (and been fooled by him multiple times), and every time i’ve caught it’s been because I was able to identify something specific in his play. I don’t want to go into too much detail about it because that would give him ammunition in the future. But I have not seen anything from him this game that resembles those past games in here.

He's got you fooled. He's obvious scum here

Feeling it in my bones

Talk to me about Epi, Sloonei. Think it's a slam dunk

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 4:26 pm @novaselinenever @Michelle who’s more suspicion: Tony or DDL?

DDL. I'm not even sure how I feel about Tony lol.

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 3:30 pm Actually met's try a thing before i am too tired to think

[VOTE: Nova] aubergine

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 3:29 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 3:17 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 3:09 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 3:08 pm That brings me to Epi, DDL, Michelle and Tony. We got them boys
Sell me on Michelle.
I haven't really seen anything from her that screamed to me. Feels like she's been walking on eggshells since she subbed on, and is being very safe. A lot of asking mild questions, clarifications and not enough conclusions I feel.
the bolded...how was that thingy with the pot and the kettle?

Is not like you asked me something and I avoided you, is rather your need to have a Poe. Pretty large imo.

I won't say much about you, byt I expected from you to stir the pot more.

From the top of my head, didn't jave time ro dig itt:
I don't like Mac, him putting suspicion on Dom and after saying he had 0 confidence he is scum and after saying Sloonei is scum at level 3 confidence is not good enough. Played recently a hydra where Mac SRed me as villlager like I was the worst scum who ever lived and i was villa too, so him saying nothing now rings a bell for me.
And i don't like DrW, but maybe that is my oppinion.
Timmer and Sloonei are villagers for me.
TSP is null abd can go either way.

Idk about the rest.

It's "The pot calling the kettle black". I'm not sure how that applies here, me not seeing anything that screams town to me from me is an opinion of your play lol.

I don't think having a four named PoE is a large one. It's pretty standard for 15 players game to be 12v3, with 3 civvies dead and 1 scum dead, it bring it down to 9v2. Which is give or take 3 more mislynches until MyLo, hence having 4 players in your PoE. Sloonei has 4 players in his PoE, why haven't you mentioned anything about his PoE being large?

What do you mean him by him "saying nothing now rings a bell"? What don't you like about DrW?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 3:22 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 3:17 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 3:09 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 3:08 pm That brings me to Epi, DDL, Michelle and Tony. We got them boys
Sell me on Michelle.
I haven't really seen anything from her that screamed to me. Feels like she's been walking on eggshells since she subbed on, and is being very safe. A lot of asking mild questions, clarifications and not enough conclusions I feel.
I do not feel like that is an accurate representation of Michelle’s posts. She’s stated a lot of reads.

Not anything sharp. It's mostly been lean villager and some I don't knows which are exactly what I'm talking about. Dom was supposedly after something about a question he asked and not seeing much from him, but then it went back to gth. Same with DrWilgy, the quoted posts felt arbitrary and just to get a default scumread. I don't see any train of thoughts at all and both her red read have in common her "iso-ing" the two and coming up with the read.

Both feel like very safe scum read and basic one, doesn't feel like they were genuine or that she wanted to figure them out. The lack of interacting or being a bit in their face is the walking on eggshells attitude I'm feeling. She's playing it from far.

Feel worse about the other than her though. Hopefully, her civiness shines brightly if she's town

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 3:09 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 3:08 pm That brings me to Epi, DDL, Michelle and Tony. We got them boys
Sell me on Michelle.

I haven't really seen anything from her that screamed to me. Feels like she's been walking on eggshells since she subbed on, and is being very safe. A lot of asking mild questions, clarifications and not enough conclusions I feel.

I don't know how to feel about Tony. He's very hardcore lol

That brings me to Epi, DDL, Michelle and Tony. We got them boys

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 2:49 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 2:17 pm Sloonei, how did you arrive at that PoE of 4?
timmer was town at the wazoo on Day 1.
Epi and Long Con have not looked they’re trying to deceive or misguide the thread at any point.
Michelle’s early posts upon subbing in looked like someone who both wanted to solve the game and was not informed about specific happenings.
Wilgy has been relatively engaged at times, and I think one specific post of his pointed to an earnest effort to read Creature post-flip for teammate interactions.
sig flipped out after we lynched Creature and thought we should have lynched me instead. No teammate is going to react that way.

DDL has done nothing that I think is incompatible with him being scum and I have found more questionable content in his ISO than anyone else’s.
Tony has not done anything that strongly suggests that he is either alignment to me.
Sorhanova did nothing until right now.
Mac did nothing for days and then showed up and did his Mac shtick for 10 minutes and left.

Agree on timmer
LC looks fine I guess. Epi is scum though, so re-read him
Okay
His remark about Sig maybe wanting to shame people for lynching Creature pre-flip 'cause Sig knows Creature is about to flip town was great.
Agree

Hmmm, the not wanting to share reads at night feels fake. Pretty unnecessary remark, especially for someone having seemingly missed most of the earlier stuff.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:39 pm No seriously I wanted to write poems about how civ Quin was

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:34 pm Damn I tried not to make it too obvious that Quin was extremely civ but I guess that was obvious to the mafia too.

Does scum!DDL make these comments just after murdering poor Quin in cold-blood?

Sloonei, how did you arrive at that PoE of 4?

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 6:26 am
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 12:45 am I'm town, Mac is town and DDL is town. Don't know about Tony.

Bad poe Slonei, bad
i wish an ellaboration for 'Mac is town' please

trying to catch up, glad to see you playing o/

Smirky tone and burst of activity while seemingly being busy feels genuine. While being busy 'cause of RL is generally NAI, busy scum are usually informed thanks to btsc, he doesn't seem to be and I like his vibe.

Great remontada

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 1:35 am
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 1:24 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 1:03 am Mac pretending to suspect me means absolutely nothing. He literally does every game we play together.
What does that mean? Unless it's a running joke, it usually means something. He either really suspects you or he's faking it. It doesn't feel completely fake here, the smirky tone coupled with his general inactivity makes it genuine.
I compiled a list in a game several months ago:
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2019 7:19 pm Here's Mac tinfoiling me in the GoC. I was town.
Here's Mac tinfoiling me in A World Asunder. I was town. He was not.
Here's Mac tinfoiling me in Mega Man. I was town.
Here's Mac tinfoiling me in IASIP. I am town.
It's happened a few more times since then. I don't think he's serious anyway. He gave his seriousness a 3/10 earlier.

So it tells me nothing about his alignment.

I remember that IASIP game lol.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 1:03 am
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 12:56 am First scum read of the game was Epi. I'll give a cookie to anyone that tells me why.
Because he’s being low key?

No. The series of trigger votes with hot takes, and a whole vibe of concise snarky posts. Very fake.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 1:03 am
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 12:52 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 12:45 am
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 12:45 am I'm town, Mac is town and DDL is town. Don't know about Tony.

Bad poe Slonei, bad

DDL's rant about people circle-jerking is hard town. Same with inactive/not fully engaged Mac suspecting you strongly. Both are very genuine.
I believe DDL’s feelings about the hot potato lynch reflect an honest position of his, but I don’t think that indicates that he is town in this game.

You actually may be right

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 1:03 am
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 12:52 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 12:45 am
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 12:45 am I'm town, Mac is town and DDL is town. Don't know about Tony.

Bad poe Slonei, bad

DDL's rant about people circle-jerking is hard town. Same with inactive/not fully engaged Mac suspecting you strongly. Both are very genuine.
Mac pretending to suspect me means absolutely nothing. He literally does every game we play together.

What does that mean? Unless it's a running joke, it usually means something. He either really suspects you or he's faking it. It doesn't feel completely fake here, the smirky tone coupled with his general inactivity makes it genuine.

First scum read of the game was Epi. I'll give a cookie to anyone that tells me why.

Also the fact that I've read bits and bits makes me even more lazy. It's like that feeling you get trying to pick up a tv show you saw a few episodes of a while ago lol.

It's scaring me, seems like a daunting task.

Granted I haven't read the whole game yet.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 12:45 am
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 12:45 am I'm town, Mac is town and DDL is town. Don't know about Tony.

Bad poe Slonei, bad

DDL's rant about people circle-jerking is hard town. Same with inactive/not fully engaged Mac suspecting you strongly. Both are very genuine.

I'm town, Mac is town and DDL is town. Don't know about Tony.

Bad poe Slonei, bad

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 3:55 pm Does anyone have reason to disagree with my four person POE of DDL, Mac, Sorsha, and Tony?

I disagree with it

Hi I'm town

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