The Syndicate

Thanks for the game, Jay!

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 2:40 pm Idk but I don’t think alison/carote is the correct choice today, I think they’re *probably* not the team so I’d rather hunt the other mafia and deal with a potential difference check between them tomorrow tbh

My preferred team tbh

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 12:14 pm Yeah I’m just ride or die with carote at this point and if they’re mafia you can yell at me about how obvious they were in post

Pretty sure colin is one, not sure if alison or ted is the second.

@Carotenoid can we do colin first, please? Pretty sold on him being mafia, combination of the resistance to doing him today and 112 scumreads on D1

Bruh I chopped 112 what is you saying

Good morning.

I was instrumental in the 112 chop, and I continue to be lock town as a result, despite my inability to catch the rest of the team following.

See ya later.

Goodnight.

This no u is so transparently fake. Nice try but I, uh, caught you and it only took me all game

It ain’t worth arguing with me, you’re caught red handed. And if I change my mind it’ll be because of sudden inspiration, not anything you or anyone else says. Sorry!

Wilgy and Proto are dead though?

Carotenoid wrote: ↑Wed Aug 26, 2020 9:48 pm Hmmmn Colin agreeing with my takes throughout the game and then opportunistically switching to voting me when I get heat probably confirms Alison/Colin are the wolves!!

I don't want to get ahead of myself though. I'll take the time to ISO all the Alison possibilities before EoD, probs not tonight though.

There is no heat. I am the sole source of heat right now.

I’ve been wrong about most things since 112’s chop ... including your alignment.

[VOTE: Carote] aubergine

I think I’d rather chop Carote tbh but [VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine if we gotta do this

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 11:21 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 12:23 pm I have started work so I will be on my busy schedule pretty much every day of the week for the foreseeable future. On top of that I pinched a nerve in my back yesterday and I am in the worst pain of my life so I am going to a doctor later tonight. @ me if you need anything
I hope you feel better soon, Colin!

Also do unvote me when you get the chance - I wrote an argument why you should earlier. I think the POE is [Carotte/Wilgy/Ted] today.

Yeah you made good points. I woke up today and after thinking “wow my back hurts” I thought “why is my vote on Alison?”

I have started work so I will be on my busy schedule pretty much every day of the week for the foreseeable future. On top of that I pinched a nerve in my back yesterday and I am in the worst pain of my life so I am going to a doctor later tonight. @ me if you need anything

[VOTE: Alison] aubergine

Mac if you’re playing me like a fiddle ... I will smile.

[VOTE: long con] aubergine

Slot needs resolved

Gah fuck it

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Aug 22, 2020 2:56 pm at least someone is here

can you guys go over why Wilgy's not on your radars that much?

TH seemed extremely town to me. I have never seen Wilgy play like this that I can recall but he hasn’t alarmed me at all.

I hate this shit. Just tell us who you are, scum, or gtfo

What if Alison/112 was w/w and Alison has been trying to pocket and buddy me the whole game

I tend to get suckered in by people I haven't played with before who are nice and Carote is kind of giving me Mongoose in Always Sunny (?) vibes tbh

Carotenoid wrote: ↑Sat Aug 22, 2020 12:29 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Aug 22, 2020 12:26 pm
Carotenoid wrote: ↑Sat Aug 22, 2020 12:24 pm If anyone wants to chat I should be around on and off throughout the day (it's my brother's birthday )
Why you off wagon
I'm voting with my heart! I'll switch for tedxtr if I have to save Nanook/Mac though

What makes you have the reads on these people that you do? Break it down for me if you have time please.

Why is Alison more scummy than ted, Mac or Nanook?

Why is ted more scummy than Mac or Nanook?

Why aren't Mac or Nanook scum?

I for one would like to see a greater consolidation of votes. If folks aren't lined up for Nanook I will switch mine to another wagon.

Carotenoid wrote: ↑Sat Aug 22, 2020 12:24 pm If anyone wants to chat I should be around on and off throughout the day (it's my brother's birthday )

Why you off wagon

I ISO’d Nanook and all I got for him is tone and my own understanding of his meta, which are both bad reasons. Action-wise I don’t see a compelling reason to believe he is town

[VOTE: Nanook] aubergine

I deadass have no reason to townread Nanook that I can recall

I’m kinda leaning back to town for you proto but the argument isn’t valid because it’s based on a probably false sum
of premises, like “nutella was killed because she suspected Mac,” “TSP was town and suspected Mac so Mac is scum”, and “Mac is paranoid enough to kill everyone who suspects him”. I think you’re tunneling. I don’t know for sure if your conclusion that Mac is bad is wrong but even if he is I’m not onboard with that reasoning.

protocultures wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 5:08 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 4:03 pm Proto, does your case on Mac essentially amount to “these players got killed because they thought Mac was bad and he was paranoid and wanted them gone?”

Because, no offense to TSP or Urist (for example) but why should we give a shit what they thought at this point? They dead.
How many games you played with Mac?

TSP has played tons with Mac. TSP is not saying he thinks Mac is a wolf for nothing.

Not sure about Urist metas with Mac.

I have played a few games with Mac.

I think Mac is scum.

if you dont see it, not much i can do.

Who is scummier than Mac today?

I’ve played like a jillion with Mac. Going back 10+ years now. I’m not saying he’s town, but I don’t think I can buy your above argument or that you buy it either.

Might just be Nanook / Long Con

Could the ted voters please address me here

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Aug 15, 2020 8:56 am Ehhh ted going hard in the paint to “bury” nutella D1 does not feel anything like a wolf push so he’s probably good.

I’m just struggling to see the argument here:

protocultures wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 11:50 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:12 pm
protocultures wrote: ↑Wed Aug 19, 2020 10:33 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Aug 18, 2020 10:46 pm
protocultures wrote: ↑Tue Aug 18, 2020 10:12 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Aug 18, 2020 8:44 pm gotta say Proto is starting to look mighty poo to me
I also find this post incredibly towny
why
Does mafia Mac ever make such a bad and naked push onto billboard town?
Yes.
Let's kill Mac please.

and lord knows townies make bad arguments, but ... you do see what I’m saying about how this absolutely is not valid, right?

Proto, does your case on Mac essentially amount to “these players got killed because they thought Mac was bad and he was paranoid and wanted them gone?”

Because, no offense to TSP or Urist (for example) but why should we give a shit what they thought at this point? They dead.

I could vote for any of you mfers tbh

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 2:24 pm Proto somehow isos Amy to justify his tunnel. Amy townread me. Urist was flipped by thread kill and I didn't vote on him. TSP by thread kill and I wouldn't have voted for him if I had the remotest sense I could push a wagon anywhere else. Doesn't even bother to ISO Tutuu apparently who was town reading me. Ignores posts from Urist reevaluating me. Ignores the fact that nutella's last content is deflecting an accusation I make onto her. Ignores the fact that I as mafia pocketed nutella for an entire game he played in ergo why in fuck would I fear kill her? Proto, hard aligning against me is a solid way to lose this game for town.

Every day the person I came into the day hardest scum reading has gone over. 112 was the one I didn't reevaluate. So I clearly can reevaluate. If I reevaluate Urist and TSP and try to get people to push off them why wouldn't I do it for 112? Proto stop making this game day focused on me. It's asinine. I am alive for one of two reasons. 1. The mafia think they can get me killed. 2. I've been pocketed and will be killed later.

I am also being town spewed by too many people for you to be scum reading me. Mafia partners don't hard shield generally and never do for me because I establish distance. You watched how I mafia partnered with Alison. You watched closely. You're ignoring everything you saw.

Alison hasn't even posted today and TSP hard scumread her. Tutuu wanted Alison/TSP to flip. Everyone else appears to be town reading me. So either I have to think the person not evaluating me at all and just tunneling me is mafia (with the person who has slanked). Colin is mafia. Or I am being pocketed. It's probably not by Nook though because he's been too self aware of being pocketed himself. Ted and Wilgy have done the ol gee nah he's just town id lose to thing which could mean they just intend to solve me at night. Probably hoping that I'd just come back at you and get you yeeted.

I saw something Ted did I didn't like. I'm voting there again.

Re: hard shielding teammates — is that something you’d say you do, Mac?

I feel like TSP would be trying harder if he were scum

Might pop in closer to EOD so if ya got a compelling argument for me changing that to someone else holla at me

[VOTE: proto] aubergine sorry Alison!

Town: ted, Carote, Wilgy, tutuu

Prob town: Alison, Mac

I don’t think TSP is bad but I neef to reassess. Unfortunately I probably won’t have time before EOD to do that

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:05 amWhy

I’m not sure I buy you thinking I may be scum so far. Idk

I have become re-sketched out by Mac.

Today gonna be busy for me but I will do my absolute best to get at ya with the requested POE

I would say both.

10K makes a fine policy lynch today. No way to say they’re town imo

Popping out of the game for a while but to reiterate: proto????

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Aug 18, 2020 10:38 am i would never consider town alison getting pocketed by wolf proto. she just cant. she owns his soul imo.

pre-agreed bus is definitely something alison would do @ colin. not to say that she is scum for lynching a wolf, or that i am scumreading her atm, but im saying how it is. she has even said it herself this game "why would u consider me not being w/w with 112 tutuu" if u go iso her posts and control + f that. outside of the game she has mentioned that her scum game relies on bussing and focusing on reaching the conclusion that someone is scum rather than naturally getting around to making the read

Ok, thanks.

Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh Mac has a really good D1. Think I’m just tinfoilling by having any suspicion there

Carote handles 112 pretty well throughout D1, imo. The ISO seems pretty pure to me — there are a lot of recurring suspicions that progress logically, in a way that feels hard to fake.

This is proto’s only significant mention of 112:

protocultures wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 8:19 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 6:16 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 11:13 pm Mafia team

112
nutella
proto

disgusting
Take proto out and put Urist in
lol did I just need to OMGUS you and vote you to get townread?

i dont like the push on Nutella either.

No idea on 112. I TR Nutella kinda and she seems pretty sure 112 is maf for meta reasons, I assume.

Later proto calls 112 “meh” and eventually ends up voting there to save Alison. It could be that proto just really strongly townreads Alison which would make that “slip” not really a slip, just imprecisely written. This vote does feel somewhat more crucial than some others in getting to the 112 yeet, too, and I hesitate to say it was a bus-in-the-making. Tonally though the rest of the ISO just feels off to me. My mind isn’t made up here

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