The Syndicate

And I've been getting to play with Dizzy more so that's a bonus.

Thanks for the game DDL. I enjoyed it.

I thought the mafia team had specifically chosen to kill me with the bomb, but nope, just a flat rng.... : PerC Dry emoji :

I probably should have protected nova and epi more...

I should probably should not sign up for games that I'm just a "maybe" on. I was a good bit out of it for parts of the game. I just didn't feel up to it.
Sometimes, it is the theme. Sometimes, it is the players. Or sometimes, it is just life.

I didn't really go into this as the game was being played as I didn't want to sound like I was giving up or anything. And/or didn't want to bring game morale down.

But feels a little annoyed to be rnged lynched when there were exactly no votes on me.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2019 5:01 pm Yay! ^^

Thanks for the game, DDL! It was very complex with all kinds of factions, and it still became a thriller in the end. I enjoyed playing it as both town and mafia.

Good work, Juliets and Michelle, it was fun scumming with you!
And gone too soon, Sabie and Sig <3

Well played scum. I had figured out that myself, Dom, Tony and Jack were the town before my rng death. Juliets instead Dom was my tin foil world, but I still protected some baddies. But town always needed to vote together to win there with all the vote negation stuff.

If I didn't move my vote to timmer, that one day, we would have gotten a lynch or kill on Michelle, cause it sounded like Tony was going to move his vote over. I mean juliets would have stopped it, but we would have had an extra lynch to play around with and better numbers. Also, town getting mod killed there didn't help our odds.

Scum are going to try everything possible to get us to not fully vote together so that they can magically pull off a win in the last moment of this day phase.

Tony, don't panic. Yes, there is already scum on this vote. I see that.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Aug 18, 2019 11:37 am

juliets wrote: ↑Sun Aug 18, 2019 8:01 am Good morning, I agree with a vote on Michelle and will do so now.

juliets wrote: ↑Sun Aug 18, 2019 8:01 am Good morning, I agree with a vote on Michelle and will do so now.

This doesn’t make sense

Votes aren’t necessary votes unless they stay there.

We need all town and Quin voting the same way because of vote shenanigans.

[VOTE: michelle] aubergine

I’m getting up for the day. Quin, you don’t have to spell things out. But thanks for offering.

Okay that’s odd

Derp sorry about double post

Derp sorry about double post

So Jack, you said something about wanting to lynch the SK if you were a wolf, do have any thoughts?

Honestly, I thought Quin wouldn’t lie about sprityo being the SK. But then again, maybe I shouldn’t have read into that?

So Jack, you said something about wanting to lynch the SK if you were a wolf, do have any thoughts?

Honestly, I thought Quin wouldn’t lie about sprityo being the SK. But then again, maybe I shouldn’t have read into that?

Sorry if sprityo is the SK, I would rather try to lynch mafia.

[VOTE: michelle] aubergine been beach busy

Will try to phone post more in the morning

I need to sleep soon.

I saw Dizzy’s comment on Dom. I’m also worried about how easily the wagon formed on juliets.

I think I might be ride or die with Dizzy. It scares me, but Jack was really frozen at the start of the game.

Epi died for a reason. I wish I knew what that reason was.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2019 2:27 pm

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2019 12:44 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2019 12:36 pm

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:08 am how jack is speaking sounds like he knows juliets is town which really bothers me.

If I was scum, fuck mislynching. I’d want the serial killer.

If you’re town, I don’t see how Juliets can be.

I'm starting to think you might be okay. *this is so stressful* But then who's not town in my town? idk

could it be ... you?

You really aren't helping me trust you more. smh

Here on out, it is phone posting until Sunday when I get back.

I just realized this poll goes until Friday not 7 minutes ago.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2019 12:41 pm Juliets is super calm for someone with 5 votes after basicalky not being voted all game and the town might not mathematically even have a way to win.

Michelle seems to give exactly zero shits.

Owner is panicking and trying to keep the poe open.

I’m thinking it’s

Town - Jack Tony Dom Dys

3P - Quin

Wolves - Juliets Owner Sprityo

SK - Owner

Why do you have me as wolves and sk? it doesn't make sense. They both have different motivations here.

You forgot michelle.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2019 12:36 pm

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:08 am how jack is speaking sounds like he knows juliets is town which really bothers me.

If I was scum, fuck mislynching. I’d want the serial killer.

If you’re town, I don’t see how Juliets can be.

I'm starting to think you might be okay. *this is so stressful* But then who's not town in my town? idk

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2019 11:39 am Ok, I am leaving for my appointments and will be back around 4:00, plenty of time to be sure I feel good about my vote. I really hope @sabie12 responds in that time, as well as @sprityo. @Michelle as Dizzy points out you have not been around either so I would like to hear what is going on with you and what your thoughts are about the game. Ok back later.

or maybe all the ATs are the team? and jack is the sk?

Who do you want to lynch today @j[mention]juliets[/mention] ?

Start there.

[mention]Dyslexicon[/mention] where are you? I need a hug. Who are all these people that I'm putting trust in?

I miss your cat pictures.

What if I'm wrong about Dom and he's just been distancing from the get go....

I need to pack for vacation. But I'm so worried.

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2019 8:34 am Good morning Epignosis and TonyStarkPrime. I see you have both put a vote on sabie. Epi I looked through the last 2 pages of your ISO and didn't see mention of her, though I just skimmed through looking for her name so I could have missed it. Tony I'm about to look through yours but thought I would ask you while I'm asking Epi - what led to these votes?

This could kind of tie you sabie.

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2019 8:42 am sprityo where are you? You have 3 posts in this entire game - what is going on? You haven't posted in 5 days and I'm having a hard time not considering that scummy. What do you have to say about the game at this point?

But would a partner bring this up? (so sprityo for sk like quin said)?

how jack is speaking sounds like he knows juliets is town which really bothers me.

Or should we just vote Michelle here. They are even really paying much attention to the thread today.

Epi only said move juliets to the bad pile if timmer was bad.

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:55 pm

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 1:14 pm I know you guys died already. it was a very sad affair, but your second self is still alive so I begin to doubt it all again.

What do you think about this today Owner?

I think there's a chance that you killed him and planned to ask my thoughts on this today.

Other than that, you waiting to post when half the thread is filled with scum seems like you don't have the same priorities as town.

Michelle's derping yesterday was getting to me, but I think it was faked. She hasn't been around. (you be like: i'm one to talk.)

me: yeah, noted.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:48 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:45 am

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:43 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:37 am So like Sprityo has made it this far. He’s probably not gonna really get modkilled.

We should probably lynch him and kick the van down the road on Michelle/Juliets/Dys, right?

Drag got modkilled so I assume we can hope for sprityo too, else *squints townie gets mod killed but the scum one doesn't get mod killed* [insert townie outrage]

Sprit is posting like clockwork once a day

Timmer called this out and we lynched him.

Yeah, it might have actually been better if I hadn't showed up for end of day as the sabie vote happened without me being there. But I was there and made a choice, a bad one.

But timmer did pose a lot of wifom or multiple people were suspicious of him over the course of two days; no, that doesn't not excuse me for making his lynch happen. I still feel guilty for not staying on Michelle there.

I feel like I need more time to think things through without all this pressure.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:41 am There’s been surprisingly little vote analysis going on here which is probably because everything sucks

I guess I'm still not crazy about how the voting is done here.

I can't really analyze how the votes were earlier on in the day phase. I just have to go on what's there at the end.

There are some points in the day where I would love to see where the vote was at and read into someone's motivation, but it is a bit harder to do here.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:43 am If Juliets is town, we are just super unlucky.

If juliets is town, at least one scum is already voting for her.

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Though I think the world where sprityo is town would be be way more unlucky

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:37 am So like Sprityo has made it this far. He’s probably not gonna really get modkilled.

We should probably lynch him and kick the van down the road on Michelle/Juliets/Dys, right?

Drag got modkilled so I assume we can hope for sprityo too, else *squints townie gets mod killed but the scum one doesn't get mod killed* [insert townie outrage]

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:22 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:13 am

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:11 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:07 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:07 am Owner voting Juliets probably means something.

Town
Or
gg we lose

Today is only one day though. We still have to make it through the rest if we somehow even make it through today.

hmm let’s analyze the mindframe of this post

scum knows that they all but win with a town lynch here
alternatively town doesn’t care about days that aren’t today

which of those has this as their first thought

SK?

Gth yeah.

Scum needs one lynch. Push or bus.

Town can play one day at a time. Hope scum outs. Hope kills go their way. But we need a good single lynch.

Sk needs a plan for the rest of the game.

And that thought is why I’m bothering defend myself to Owner. I don’t want to get a knife in my back meant for a wolf.

I do want to be optimistic, but I'm also being realistic here. Even if we do lynch scum today, us townies (I still don't think that you are town, jack) need to still all come together and lynch correctly each day with whichever of us remain.

I've seen how much scum wins here. I want to break this meta, but I know this is a long road.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:12 am Also Buckets theory suggests Owner is scum

just sayin

What's Bucket's theory?

never heard of it or at least not by that name

I'm guessing it could be something I know or do, but idk.

It would be amazing if the team is just juliets, dizzy and michelle.

But I think both dizzy and juliets were voting michelle; then again tony talking about the scum powers thing would mean they (the mafia) could potentially sway the vote if need be if tied.

But michelle derped on the setup. That could be faked though. Dizzy and myself were taking that into account.

I think Michelle is not with Julliets.

Epi was putting juliets in the bad pile if timmer was bad, but timmer wasn't bad.

I guess juliets could be the sk here, with how jack is okay to vote that way.

i'm still freaking out if I'm making the right call or not.

Like this hard

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:07 am

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:05 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2019 12:59 am What if we all vote for ourselves

I generally don't self vote, even when I had a negative and could have saved myself by doing it. (Then again, that was my first forum. I was lynched day 1 as the mafia godfather.) I have to have a very good reason to do so.

I’m trying to break the game here I’m desperate

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:07 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:07 am Owner voting Juliets probably means something.

Town
Or
gg we lose

Today is only one day though. We still have to make it through the rest if we somehow even make it through today.

Unfortunately, votes at this stage could mean anything. It's probably gonna be busy up in here for end of the day tomorrow.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:04 am

Quin wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2019 11:51 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2019 10:54 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:35 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2019 6:02 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2019 6:01 pm @quin Are you town friendly?

@Quin

How about I vote with you today?

K.

Who do you want to vote for?

Imo the mafia has to be in Juliets, Michelle, Sprityo, Owner and maaaaaybe Dys. I lean towards Dys being town or maybe the sker but I don’t really know.

I’m thinking [VOTE: Juliets] aubergine

You have too many mafia though.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2019 12:59 am What if we all vote for ourselves

I generally don't self vote, even when I had a negative and could have saved myself by doing it. (Then again, that was my first forum. I was lynched day 1 as the mafia godfather.) I have to have a very good reason to do so.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2019 12:39 am
Okay thanks for some elaboration.
Ughhhh are you Town?

Yeaah

Your activity and amount of engagement with thread and the amount of time you putting into solving or being around makes me think town.

I've definitely pictured you as every single alignment in this game, but this:



I have a whole perspective on some things this game, which is going to influence my future mafia game design decisions.

I don't really tend to advertise my alignment much anymore.

You know who else didn't vote Day 1 aside from Michelle? Jack didn't vote day 1.

Jack's early posts seemed a bit frozen. He wasn't as engaged with the thread. His first few posts were nothing substantial.

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Day 1 Sloonei asked juliets to share their one town read that she was holding back. I felt that was a town motivation to make sure she's not pretending or skimming bye by just saying something that looks townie on the surface. Sig grouped both Sloonei and Drag as mafia together as one of his reads. Those two things I feel are at least enough to give some credit to Dizzy having a good shot at being town here.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:00 pm
“Feel aware” refers to the idea that scum has more (at this point significantly more) info than the town and that I am, according to Owner, giving off the vibe that I know more than I should. exactly what that is I am unsure because I know very little of what’s going on.

One thing to note: all 6 sparks are alive I think?

No, feeling aware is not always that.

Being aware is portrayed by Mafia, SK or PT; a VT rarely ever displays this kind awareness.

Unfortunately, all 3 of those realities are possible.

I'm coming to a conclusion that you might actually be town here, which is really hard on me. Because of how you reacted to me from the get go was so surprising.

Say this was more of a vanilla game with the standard cop, doctor, vig and bunch of vts. The PT would show or display this awareness while VT would should more innocence or playfulness.

You are talking more so about TMI-ing. A person being aware could result from them knowing too much/tmi-ing, but it isn't always the case.

I have mistakenly pushed on PTs because I spotted this awareness or something that they wished to hide.

Sorry that this is all muffled. But I wouldn't say this is the easiest thing to explain.


I've gone back and forth all day during my work breaks just rereading more and trying to figure out what I am missing.


My Town is

Myself

Dom
Dizzy
Tony

I seriously likely screwed us by not staying on MIchelle.

I'm calling for a lynch on juliets or jack today.

I think Michelle or sprityo is the SK. I'm thinking Michelle might be the SK.

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Dom is my top town. Dizzy and Tony worry me, but this is likely some form of lylo + stuff.

I get lynching sprityo, but I kind of want to hit someone who has been calling the shots. Cause if we don't do it know how will we do it in the future? But yeah, Jack, Julliets and sprityo for mafia.



[VOTE: juliets] aubergine

The only potential bright side here is that we eliminated timmer who was technically a distraction for town. Enough people, myself included, were sadly mistaken and going in the wrong direction with being suspicious of him.

At least, it wasn't lylo. I should probably make those deciding votes again; this is like the 2nd or 3rd time that I have been wrong.

The stuff that Tony brought about making sure we don't tie the vote. Could be said as scum maybe if wagons were between two townies?

Or is he just town that I suck at reading...I'm like idk man.

Well, I suck.

I should have either stayed on Michelle or maybe she wasn't even scum. Tony still feels too aware for me. Ever time I vote that way, it's like I'm the only one.

I'm going to be going on vacation this weekend. I haven't decided if I'll commit to phone posting or if I'll bring my computer with me.