The Syndicate

Kinda weird to be part of a mafia's worst nightmare. I remember the time the time I got daypeeked D1 in mafia universe anniversary mash 2019 when I was just breaking out of my polarized meta. At least I got 862 posts in 13 hours.

If anyone wants to enjoy the read: https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... rsary-2019

Syn wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 6:30 pm The original setup had four wolves, but the reviewer said the wolves would crush town with those numbers. We settled on reducing the team.

If Don's claim was a real town role I think four wolves and survivor would be fairly balanced.

Kinda surprised there were only three wolves.

I hope orange gets a sub or a modkill tbh.

I think I'd probably look at sig and lost monkey tomorrow. Kinda thinking sig is more likely between them.

lost monkey wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 6:10 pm Did orange post this game day?

Nope. Not a single chirp.

Duskfall wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 6:09 pm Tbf I think we maybe have the kills to just potentially sweep the game now hopefully?

Not sure. Only if we assume Don Wurzel and Falcon are always town here.

I think we still keep evaluating the game.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 6:06 pm and the reason Marmot didn't self pres is because Wurzel is the better wolf PR

Couldn't the reason be that Marmot wasn't online at the time?

I confess I'm not decided where I want to go next. Nanook was the one after Marmot but he's far from being as obvious as Marmot was.

Jesus Christ I forgot about this game and thought you all would end up lynching Don Wurzel

Duskfall wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 6:03 pm Told you it was marmot

I told it first

I feel like I need to take a rest. Got plenty of school stuff to do but I keep getting distracted with mafia.

Herm wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 9:57 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 9:52 pm
Herm wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 9:51 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 9:29 pm I think I would just call this game abandoned for inactivity if I could.
Another game I played previously was less active than tjis game lol.
Is it in mafiascum?
Offsite alias game on jcink forum.

Star Trek theme.

Guess those sites border the deep web of mafia

lost monkey wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 1:56 pm If creature was scum him killing alison would be weird seeing he was suspecting alana to be wolf.

This tilts me off

Long Con's ISO is also very wolfy if someone's interested in looking at it.

It's funny this game actually feels quite active but when you look at it it's just Duskfall and me trying to extract milk from a rock.

Herm wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 9:51 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 9:29 pm I think I would just call this game abandoned for inactivity if I could.
Another game I played previously was less active than tjis game lol.

Is it in mafiascum?

Herm wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 9:49 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 9:36 pm Can't believe you all never bothered to ISO Wurzel
My bad.

I remembered some people being suspicious of Ender at the end of D1 actually, but forgot who said what.

Dunno why as he was actively trying to push the game forward. Obviously wolf could still incite town into playing, but I think Ender was very doing it very overtly.

Duskfall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 9:46 pm Wurzel should still absolutely not be cleared

You don't need to clear him, just take into consideration that his actions actually make quite sense for a town 1-shot vig that shot Ender and tried to push for reads.

Herm wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 9:40 pm All the active people = Town

Yeah, probably this. atp if any of them are wolf they're just dancing on town slowly lynching the non-playing slots.

Still, I think if there's wolf between the six playing the game it would probably be Falcon, but if Falcon is wolf then he's just getting a free wolf win.

Herm wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 9:44 pm Orange, Sig, Lost Monkey, Marnot and mayyyyybe Nanook possible scumpool imo.

Yeah, that's what I had except the mayyyyybe

Marmot is my favorite lynch, but can also easily do NANOOK. I think both are easily wolves here.

Then that probably leaves us with sig/orangecrush/lost monkey.

I probably wouldn't lynch sig here because at least they're posting a bit now and will become readable. I also would leave orangecrush for mod to solve. Maybe would do lost monkey but I confess I'm a bit meh there.

Leaning Marmot + NANOOK + lost monkey here.

idk after all this I'll feel bad if we end up lynching Wurzel and he ends up being town

It makes so much sense Wurzel would shoot Ender here and doesn't feel like wolf trying to patch up a kill. Also Wurzel has been actively trying to solve the game Ender-style.

Can't believe you all never bothered to ISO Wurzel

Don Wurzeloni wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 12:52 pm Regarding my own wagon, I admit that I probably have had lower WIM than usual today and have been a bit on autopilot. There is a good reason for that.

As everyone seems to be outing their roles now, I am one shot town vig. Unfortunately, I used my one shot on Ender.

Just to give some background on this: in one of my fairly recent games, I took part in a Hydra. My partner and I were town and got a free vig shot. I wanted to shoot Tim and his partner as they were posting in gifs. My partner persuaded me to holster as it was risky to shoot. We holstered. Tim was a wolf and that game was mafia sweep.

So since then I said if I got a vig again I would use it. I strongly scum read Ender and it didn't look like anyone was going to vote him out so I used the vig.

What is really annoying is I could have vigged Hollowkatt but everyone insisted on yeeting him on d1.

I'm sorry for my mistake. Still on the plus side it looks like we've got a wolf.

Don Wurzeloni wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 7:24 am Here is my updated reads list

Duskfall - lock town
Tim - town (through gritted teeth) mainly due to Essoa
WIML - still towny. One of the main players driving the game forward
Lost Monkey - lean town. Getting good vibes from him
Nanook - lean town. Getting much better vibes from him today

Herm - null - has gone completely AWOL
Marmot - null - giving a day pass as just subbed in
Creature - null
Orangecrush - null - a priority to ISO this evening as currently under threat

Falcon - lean scum - bad vibes but need to ISO properly
SIG - lean scum - didn’t like them refusing to provide reads (not helpful)
Ydrasse - My gut strongly says this slot is scum but I am hesitant to vote here because of the PR claim.

I’ll do some reading up and will vote later but it’s currently between the bottom 4

Don Wurzeloni wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:15 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:11 pm Did Don really suggest lynching randomly is better than lynching potential scumsiding 3p?
I'm not lynching randomly - I have a case against you. My point was that if we say there are 4 wolves and 1 3p, it is better to focus on the 4 wolves first as there are more of them. And the 3p might town side or be otherwise resolved.

Don Wurzeloni wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 4:04 pm [VOTE: EnderWiggin] aubergine

Man this makes so much sense!

Don Wurzeloni wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 4:02 pm My own answer:

Top 3 town

Alison - Consistently good vibes from her.
Esooa slot - Esooa gets more wound up by things when town. Reminds me of how she played in our last game together when she was also town.
WIML - Feels pretty towny (as usual)

Top 3 scum

EnderWiggin - Has done nothing to convince me that my scum read was wrong. I strongly feel that it was a scumslip. Has also gone below the radar a bit today having been such a heavy poster yesterday
Gavial slot - Gavial's play was damaging both in terms of derailing the thread and the toxicity. I do like Ydrasse's first post but they need to do a lot to get this slot out of my POE
Nanook - I don't like the fake claims and feel his play has been scummy so far (although that is often the case for his d1s)

Don Wurzeloni wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 7:26 am Ender’s ISO

Thread entry – seems quite relaxed and makes a joke

#230 – “I also like to arbitrarily townread people for fun.” I don’t like this post at all. Sounds like an easy way to let the wolves off the hook.
#273 – “As said. I don't care if they're as weak as a nerd on first gym day. I want meat to tear my teeth into.” This post stands out on re-reading. It’s most likely a metaphor but we all know who has sharp teeth.
#392 – “Well, I haven't played in ages so I was down with whatever. Didn't bother me at all when I saw I was a wolf. Wait did I just say that out loud?” This is clearly supposed to be a joke but it might not be. LordArgon on CFC likes to remind people of the game he said he was wolfing on D1 but it took town 3 days to lynch him.
#644 – “I appreciate that my strongest townread is the first to join me claiming wolf. Viva la revelucion” Again claiming wolf
#645 – “I mean, I'd be a little egotistical to say none of that is AI ever for me. But I'll say that my previous meta as town was very open to making silly jokes. I actually got picked off as PR a few times because I had a bad habit of NOT being jokey when PR. That being said I'm also 6 years from my last game of mafia so who knows how terrible I've gotten at pretending to be town now.” This is the post that really pinged me yesterday. Pretending to be town?

I feel I have started to get quite good at spotting scumslips and of course the person says it was an accident, but in 2 out of 3 cases where I have spotted them that person turned out to be a wolf.

In summary, he has posted a lot but the majority of that has been jokey posts and poking the less active players (an easy tactic for the wolves). I also strongly think the “pretending to be town” comments is a scumslip.

Sometimes it is as easy as saying that if someone looks like a wolf and quacks like a wolf, they are a wolf.

I want to see how the new Gavial does later but am likely voting here

Also he is voting HK which is an easy out for the wolf team

Don Wurzeloni wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 6:00 pm So here are my initial thoughts and reads:

Finding the vibe here very different to MU. If MU is like afternoon tea at Claridge’s, this place is like a pool bar coming up to closing time

WIML – Feels pretty towny as usual (although he is generally towny). Likely to resolve later on
Esooa slot – Lean town. Esooa gets more wound up when she is town
Alison – getting good vibes so far (although I haven’t seen her wolf yet)

HK – 3p as claimed

Ender – several of his posts have pinged me but I am not quite sure enough to scum read yet

Falcon – early town PR claiming is anti-town
Gavial slot – his behaviour was massively anti-town
Nanook – His claimed PR sounds incredibly suss to me (do day cops even exist?) Feels like a good way to get a cheap town read

I'm unhappy Don wasted their shot on Ender who was playing the game.

I think I would just call this game abandoned for inactivity if I could.

I hate it that if any of Falcon/Don are mafia they win just by playing.

lost monkey is really in his own world

I think orangecrush hasn't posted a single time today?

Duskfall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 8:28 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 8:22 pm Man you all would rather tinfoil me than consider Maemot wolf lol
Sig hasn't read the game properly and has high scum equity you're obviously cleared town dw

If you're willing to take responsibility for this game I'll sheep you, I don't have meta here your reads are gonna be better so I'd you're super super confident that's fine you can take the lead but Sig is pinging me hard rn

Not sure how much sure I am on Don Wurzel. Still think he has little reason to claim the kill on Ender especially when he wasn't even in danger that day.

I wouldn't want to kill him over the inactive slots because having to find one town between the five non-playing slots is nightmareish. I would maybe reconsider Don Wurzel in like F5, but still one of the five slots would have to town up.

Man you all would rather tinfoil me than consider Maemot wolf lol

I could also do lost monkey because I see their name in Who is online every single time and they aren't doing shit.

I think Marmot had more than enough time to have at least one good read and the fact they didn't points towards them being frozen wolf.

How long are we planning to give Marmot a pass? I feel like they should have had enough time to form an actual read.

We punish players not playing the game imo.

I'm not gonna lynch someone who is playing the game ftr. Unless everybody not playing the game suddenly decides to redeem themselves.

sig wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:51 pm its day 3 chill with the lets kill the less active people. Seems a bit counterproductive honestly.

Leaving the lwss active people alive also seems pretty counterproductive.

If we find the town in Don Wurzel we can auto this game

So I guess we have to try to find the town in Don Wurzel?

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:16 pm I could get behind killing Nanook.

Same, but Marmot is more obvious.

Yeah you will have to deal with him later but there's five players I prefer over him rn

Duskfall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:11 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:10 pm At least Don Wurzel is playing the game
doesnt make him town though

But makes losing less worst than losing to any set of sig/lostmonkey/orangecrush/Marmot/Nanook

At least Don Wurzel is playing the game

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